Very nice video. I enjoy your attention to detail and your honesty. I just purchased the WEN 6515T for woodworking but if I can build the cardboard wheel, I can use it for various functions. Thanks for your time and effort. Keep 'em coming.
Great video on the WEN, thanks for all the tips & "how to's" on it too. I think the WEN would be my pick of a unit, it seems to have a little more quality than the HF version. - Would be great to see a little more detail on "how to" make the cardboard honing wheel. I could use one of those. What diameter is yours? - Thanks. :)
Excellent video, in every aspect! You took that little Wen sander and made it do things that never even occurred to me to do with mine. Thanks for the ideas, and for making the video. Liked and subbed!
Very Nice! You definately are the 1 x 30 sander/grinder expert as far as i am concerned. Your tech expertise shows. The sharpening skills you have developed are excellent too. Thanks for all the videos you have on these. Excellent idea on the cardboard buffing wheel!
Thanks for the info! I just got this sander as a gift and was wondering if it would work for knives and other similar projects. I like the cardboard wheel idea.
Yes they do similar things. A leather belt allows for more adjustment to the amount of tooth left on the edge where a wheel will just buff it off very quickly
Good video, Cliff! I think I will get one and try the same set up you have! I have 2 of the HF 1X30 belt sanders and this would give me a very complete sharpening set up! Thanks for the video and for your ideas!
Given your background I'd like to sit down and have a chat with you and have you guide me through how to reuse this juicer motor I have for something useful. I have an interest in knife work but don't know a damn about putting motors and parts together beyond some basic mcgyvering.
I bought this unit based on this video alone, but since I'm an amateur. I have some generic questions. Are you saying to buy the angle guide or not? Is honing necessary after the initial sharpening on that 200 grit?
This is really interesting. I learned to sharpen knives as a hobby and just today, ordered the WEN but not with sharpening in mind. I made the purchase to finish custom kydex sheaths. Didn't even think to use it as a sharpening/honing machine! Why did you use cardboard instead of MDF? Do you happen to know the bolt size/thread pitch for the wheel?
Thanks for the comment, Im not sure of the bolt info off hand. Its probably in the manual schematic but not sure where mine went. I have read in comments on other videos about MDF that the particles can be a hazardous material and honestly it just looked like more work to make. I may be biased because its what I personally did but it is cheap, safe, and easy to make with household items.
Sounds much smoother and higher quality than the Harbor Freight. Thanks for the video! Also would not be hard to remove and reinstall buffing wheel when sharpening..
What size metric bolt or whatever does one need to add an extension to the disc sander as you've done here?. I bought a honing belt 1by30 but this looks like a way faster alternative to what/how I was going to use the machine for sharpening in a more standard capacity.
Thanks for the video, The Wen is a lot better machine than the HF ones , in quieter and smoother ?? I know it sounds like it in the video . Love the cardboard wheels also.
Sharpening on the flat will give you a flat grind. Sharpening where the belt can concave will give you a convex grind. Just letting you know since you said it didnt matter because it's the same angle
You can sharpen in either place and get the same angle and get it "sharp" which is what I was referring to. Of course as you said a convex slack belt will give a corresponding convex bevel. Think I did a video on that few years back also. Aloha
Half the fun is experimenting around...anything from 200-600 grit and then a polish/burr removal step and youll be good. Often with very dull knives or reprofiling to a shallower angle and more agressive p80 grit belt can be useful. Happy sharpening!
I hadnt till you said that...its a great idea and would work I think. The wheel side isnt made for what we want it to do tho. As far as machines go its now my least favorite. Although mine runs smooth, its still way to fast and its noisier then my red or blue, and as I show the housing gets in the way of my fingers when holding the knife.
Excellent video. I already have a 6" buffer set up with 8" wheels for grinding and stropping. Don't like having to constantly regrit the grinding wheel though, which is why I may go with a belt grinder setup.
Agreed belts are hard to beat for durability and grit progression. The angle guide is the wheel killer too, when you can use it. You could have two 1x30 setup side by side for just over $100 and do it all...Hmmm now theres an idea! :)
Yes Im going to reduce the size about 1in and try to make a guard for it next. I really like the convenience of having both built into one machine, just need to safety it up a bit.
Thx bud, I need to get back out and record a new one on sharpening. Watching this back I liked the format too. I tend to talk alot, but doing it quicker and getting to the getting stuff done part I think makes it more interesting.
We share the same battle in life. Seeking perfection. Practice makes perfect.I just got back into knives. Not collecting so much anymore but, trying to modify and then make. So I am hunting for tools and landed on your video here. Looking for a decent belt/disk sander to get started with. I'd like to save money buying used so I am seeing what runs well for the price point. Disabled vet living on dirt, if I can tune knives for some cash no reason not to.
currycustomcutlery@gmail.com Hit me up with any questions you may have. Will help if I can. Im very budget minded as well. Started with sharpening to avoid the collecting obsession, worked into restoration, and am now venturing into making with good results. Its alot of fun and challenging.
Heck yeah man thanks. Its always good to have sources with knowledge for questions. I am almost wondering if I should do a combo sander or have a belt and disk separate. Let each have its specific function. Cost is killing me. $100 is not much for some. Its 6 1/2 my monthly income. So I am glad I have a killer used tool shop where I live. Its a paradise. Piles of tools. Wondering when they will have fill a bag for 10 bucks with sockets day. They need to.
The combo sander is a great idea for a sharpening station but having a spinning wheel that close is asking for impalement in a bad way. You could do very well with just a HF or WEN 1x30 forgetting about the side disk. Get a scotch brite belt(for refinishing the sides), and a felt belt for the final hone. You'll be very happy for under $60. Do a knife from cruddy n dull to almost new looking and much sharper in under 10 minutes.
rswigg, well lets change that! Ive got one more "machine" video to knock out and I think Im finally advanced enough with my video skills to do a 3 part How-To-Sharpen series with closeups and theory explanation. Really try to make it easy for people to understand....in theory. LOL
Hey man! Love your content. Please consider normalizing your audio. I’m listening to you with headphones and the sudden volume increases is jarring. If you’d like help with normalizing or need software, please DM me & I’ll get you set up.
I’m so glad I stumbled across this! I was going to buy some wood panels and make a couple of buffing wheels. I am going to make a couple out of cardboard and save some money for now. Thank you for your videos!
Thats a bit steep for a non variable speed unit. The out of box solution still remains the Rikon 50-161 for me. Building a new config for later this month to video.
Thanks sir. It's funny how I can look back on the older videos and how many steps I was taking. Used to do it in 10 steps Now can do it in three. Most cases two-step process like this gets it done!
Your doing just fine with the video quality. It's the content that is important and you do well on that aspect. Keep up the good work.
Cliff is THE MAN! These videos are so thorough and informative 💯
Just turned my sharpening hobby into a business and your stuff has been helpful in exploring options. Much thanks!
I HOPE TO DO THE SAME...
“Safety glasses engaged.” Reminds me of a cool uncle I have from Canada that says “safety squints engaged!”
Great video, Cliff! Amazing how fast it removed the burr. You’re a very creative sharpener.
Very nice video. I enjoy your attention to detail and your honesty. I just purchased the WEN 6515T for woodworking but if I can build the cardboard wheel, I can use it for various functions. Thanks for your time and effort. Keep 'em coming.
Great video on the WEN, thanks for all the tips & "how to's" on it too. I think the WEN would be my pick of a unit, it seems to have a little more quality than the HF version. - Would be great to see a little more detail on "how to" make the cardboard honing wheel. I could use one of those. What diameter is yours? - Thanks. :)
Excellent video, in every aspect! You took that little Wen sander and made it do things that never even occurred to me to do with mine. Thanks for the ideas, and for making the video. Liked and subbed!
Very Nice! You definately are the 1 x 30 sander/grinder expert as far as i am concerned. Your tech expertise shows. The sharpening skills you have developed are excellent too. Thanks for all the videos you have on these. Excellent idea on the cardboard buffing wheel!
You really like to dissect your belt grinders. I enjoy the outcome!
Where do you get your belts? Is that really only a 200 grit belt? Or is it a special belt where the grit scale is different?
Will you do a video showing how you make a smaller honing wheel?
Thanks for the info! I just got this sander as a gift and was wondering if it would work for knives and other similar projects. I like the cardboard wheel idea.
How did you eliminate or reduce the electric static shock from the Wen sander?
This looks awesome. Gonna try it out with my wen grinder!
Would a leather belt with compound do the same job as your cardboard wheel?
Yes they do similar things. A leather belt allows for more adjustment to the amount of tooth left on the edge where a wheel will just buff it off very quickly
Good video, Cliff! I think I will get one and try the same set up you have! I have 2 of the HF 1X30 belt sanders and this would give me a very complete sharpening set up!
Thanks for the video and for your ideas!
Given your background I'd like to sit down and have a chat with you and have you guide me through how to reuse this juicer motor I have for something useful. I have an interest in knife work but don't know a damn about putting motors and parts together beyond some basic mcgyvering.
I bought this unit based on this video alone, but since I'm an amateur. I have some generic questions.
Are you saying to buy the angle guide or not?
Is honing necessary after the initial sharpening on that 200 grit?
Good sharpening and honing.
Damn you made that look easy as hell lol.
This is really interesting. I learned to sharpen knives as a hobby and just today, ordered the WEN but not with sharpening in mind. I made the purchase to finish custom kydex sheaths. Didn't even think to use it as a sharpening/honing machine! Why did you use cardboard instead of MDF? Do you happen to know the bolt size/thread pitch for the wheel?
Thanks for the comment, Im not sure of the bolt info off hand. Its probably in the manual schematic but not sure where mine went. I have read in comments on other videos about MDF that the particles can be a hazardous material and honestly it just looked like more work to make. I may be biased because its what I personally did but it is cheap, safe, and easy to make with household items.
Sounds much smoother and higher quality than the Harbor Freight. Thanks for the video! Also would not be hard to remove and reinstall buffing wheel when sharpening..
Hey Cliff, do you remember what type of glue you used making the cardboard wheel?
basic white elmers of wood glue. Since its bonding cardboard dont need more. Also dont glue last outer 1 inch or so.
@@CurryCustomCutlery Ah, that's what I was concerned about (glue at the edge). Thanks!
Ok I’m making my own business would this be a good first grinder
Good Vid! Seems to run much smoother than the Harbor Freight
Nice!
Do you have to used a custom made homing wheel?
Or you can use over the counter wheel?
Wheel is custom made similar to how a MDF wheel is made.
What size metric bolt or whatever does one need to add an extension to the disc sander as you've done here?. I bought a honing belt 1by30 but this looks like a way faster alternative to what/how I was going to use the machine for sharpening in a more standard capacity.
Thanks for the video,
The Wen is a lot better machine than the HF ones , in quieter and smoother ??
I know it sounds like it in the video .
Love the cardboard wheels also.
Sharpening on the flat will give you a flat grind. Sharpening where the belt can concave will give you a convex grind. Just letting you know since you said it didnt matter because it's the same angle
You can sharpen in either place and get the same angle and get it "sharp" which is what I was referring to. Of course as you said a convex slack belt will give a corresponding convex bevel. Think I did a video on that few years back also. Aloha
@@CurryCustomCutlery right on brother.
Sweet video. How did you come up with a spacer?
Been a while back now of coarse but I think I just stuffed a scotch brite pad back in there.
Well there goes my weekend, thanks
Well if you like that, you're really gonna love the one Im uploading now. Comparing all 4 different units side by side...haha!
I have this Wen sander now what grit belt did you decide to use for your sharpening station on this?
Half the fun is experimenting around...anything from 200-600 grit and then a polish/burr removal step and youll be good. Often with very dull knives or reprofiling to a shallower angle and more agressive p80 grit belt can be useful. Happy sharpening!
Great video! Love making mods right out the box :)
video quality was pretty damn good i thought
Ever think about putting a cbn wheel on the rotery side and a leather belt on the other? Anyways great video.
I hadnt till you said that...its a great idea and would work I think. The wheel side isnt made for what we want it to do tho. As far as machines go its now my least favorite. Although mine runs smooth, its still way to fast and its noisier then my red or blue, and as I show the housing gets in the way of my fingers when holding the knife.
Damn that thing is loud! Louder than the HF?
Great Video. 👍 Thanks.
Is is the Harbor freight one or the wen better?
Both are too fast for sharpening but can be used. The WEN is smoother running but weaker frame design. Sorry no winner...
Que material y número de banda lijadora usa?
Paso 1 de la correa 3M Cubitron de grano 120.
Cinturón Trizact A30 paso 2.
Termine de atar el cinturón de fieltro o cuero paso 3.
Gracias amigo por responder. Voy a seguir viendo sus videos para aprender más. Gracias 🙏
Just sub..I real like your reviews. You have tried out many belt Sanders..what is the one you like the most. As i have been looking into getting one.☺
Thanks for the sub!
Excellent video. I already have a 6" buffer set up with 8" wheels for grinding and stropping. Don't like having to constantly regrit the grinding wheel though, which is why I may go with a belt grinder setup.
Agreed belts are hard to beat for durability and grit progression. The angle guide is the wheel killer too, when you can use it. You could have two 1x30 setup side by side for just over $100 and do it all...Hmmm now theres an idea! :)
Great video... are you going to make a smaller wheel for it????
Yes Im going to reduce the size about 1in and try to make a guard for it next. I really like the convenience of having both built into one machine, just need to safety it up a bit.
Curry Custom Cutlery please show it when done
Keifer you got it! Unboxing the Rikon 161vs now and will show them all side by side and with the smaller buffing wheel.
Curry Custom Cutlery cant wait
Will you do a video showing how you make a smaller honing wheel out of cardboard?
Fuck yeah man a minute in and I was interested.
Thx bud, I need to get back out and record a new one on sharpening. Watching this back I liked the format too. I tend to talk alot, but doing it quicker and getting to the getting stuff done part I think makes it more interesting.
We share the same battle in life. Seeking perfection. Practice makes perfect.I just got back into knives. Not collecting so much anymore but, trying to modify and then make. So I am hunting for tools and landed on your video here. Looking for a decent belt/disk sander to get started with. I'd like to save money buying used so I am seeing what runs well for the price point.
Disabled vet living on dirt, if I can tune knives for some cash no reason not to.
currycustomcutlery@gmail.com Hit me up with any questions you may have. Will help if I can. Im very budget minded as well. Started with sharpening to avoid the collecting obsession, worked into restoration, and am now venturing into making with good results. Its alot of fun and challenging.
Heck yeah man thanks. Its always good to have sources with knowledge for questions.
I am almost wondering if I should do a combo sander or have a belt and disk separate. Let each have its specific function.
Cost is killing me. $100 is not much for some. Its 6 1/2 my monthly income. So I am glad I have a killer used tool shop where I live. Its a paradise. Piles of tools. Wondering when they will have fill a bag for 10 bucks with sockets day. They need to.
The combo sander is a great idea for a sharpening station but having a spinning wheel that close is asking for impalement in a bad way. You could do very well with just a HF or WEN 1x30 forgetting about the side disk. Get a scotch brite belt(for refinishing the sides), and a felt belt for the final hone. You'll be very happy for under $60. Do a knife from cruddy n dull to almost new looking and much sharper in under 10 minutes.
You make all this look so easy. I feel like a dummy 😆
rswigg, well lets change that! Ive got one more "machine" video to knock out and I think Im finally advanced enough with my video skills to do a 3 part How-To-Sharpen series with closeups and theory explanation. Really try to make it easy for people to understand....in theory. LOL
Hey man! Love your content. Please consider normalizing your audio. I’m listening to you with headphones and the sudden volume increases is jarring.
If you’d like help with normalizing or need software, please DM me & I’ll get you set up.
I’m so glad I stumbled across this! I was going to buy some wood panels and make a couple of buffing wheels. I am going to make a couple out of cardboard and save some money for now. Thank you for your videos!
There is very little volume in your video?
Yes I have been working to increase volume, remove bad background music, all the things. Sorry if too quiet.
They are now $99 on Amazon.
Thats a bit steep for a non variable speed unit.
The out of box solution still remains the Rikon 50-161 for me. Building a new config for later this month to video.
Made in Taiwan?
great vid...thanks
Great master!
There's probably a reason why the wheel is only 5". :/
Very good.
Thanks sir. It's funny how I can look back on the older videos and how many steps I was taking. Used to do it in 10 steps Now can do it in three. Most cases two-step process like this gets it done!