THE SHADOWS?! | Doctor Who Season 4 Episode 8 "Silence in the Library" Reaction!
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Alex Kingston as River Song is brilliant. This is pretty much the start of "spoilers" becoming a catch phrase, not just on the show but also in pop culture, especially among Dr. Who fans. And when it comes to the character of River Song, it is very difficult to not give away any spoilers.
100% perfect comment, no notes 🙂.
The phrase ‘spoilers’ in that context was already in common use. Possibly the earliest use was in an issue of National Lampoon I. 1971. ‘Spoiler Alerts’ were mentioned in postings for Star Trek 2. The word ‘spoiler’ was already being used with a certain level of frequency by the time Doctor Who returned to our screens and by the time River Song entered the show it already had a certain resurgence in popularity. I can remember watching River Song first deliver that phrase and thinking it mildly amusing that popular,ar culture was being referenced in that way on the show.
Of course,, in Doctor Who fandom, the phrase ‘spoilers’ became much more of a buzz-word. And, because fans of Doctor Who are often fans of other sci-fi and fantasy franchises, it started to get used more broadly by the sci-fi community as a whole. So River Song played a part in the widespread usage of the term. But it was definitely already there and in use.
I actually got to see her in London in a production of One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest along with Christian Slater.
@@jeanine6328
Sounds great
"Hello Sweetie"
We truly are entering the best era of Doctor Who in my opinion. This two-parter might be my favorite of all time!
Of ANY show!
Oh yes I envy her, because to quote River, "You'll see me again. You've got all of that to come. You and me, time and space. You watch us run!"
Yea the start of the end, spoilers ;)
21:04 “How did you guys watch this show as kids”
BEHIND THE SOFA!!!
TRUE this episode scared the crap out of me as a kid
Bro this and Blink still give me the creeps as an adult, even though I know them by heart
After being traumatized by Darkness falls at 10yo. This episode did not help with my fear of the dark
Honestly, between the Weeping Angels and the Silence, the Library never really got to me all that much.
This episode is a master class in how to introduce a character.
O, I think Utopia was the master class. 😅
This is certainly good though, and there is one more to come if I remember correctly. 😢
I'm somewhat lukewarm on future River Song appearances, but I think she's absolutely fantastic in this two-parter. Such an interesting character idea, and Alex Kingston plays her brilliantly
3:26 "No, I never land on Sundays; Sundays are boring."
This is a joke about Doctor Who being aired in the UK on Saturdays.
Also pointed out in Survival. ACE: You had to pick a Sunday, didn't you? You bring me back to the boredom capitol of the universe, you pick the one day of the week you can't even get a decent television programme.
Until sadly, it did, but we won't talk about that yet.
((Sees the title... Rubs hands together, giggling with glee)) Ohhhhh yes, now we're getting into the REALLLLY good stuff! 😉😈
Edit: automatic upvote for this vid
lol true. It all starts with Family honestly and just gets better and better and better as it goes on
Hello Sweetie! 😘😘😘
The Doctor and Donna immediately tearing up the NDA completely encapsulates their dynamic for me
One of my favorite bits of trivia about two of my favorite franchises:
In Fallout: New Vegas, specifically the Old World Blues DLC, there is a type of enemy called the Y-17 Trauma Response Harness. It basically looks like a spacesuit with a skeleton inside. You can look up its lore if you want to dig a bit deeper, but if you have the Wild Wasteland trait active, a specific Y-17 walks around saying "Hey, who turned out the lights?!" in loving reference to this episode. Which isn't the first time Fallout has had a Doctor Who reference. There was a random encounter in Fallout 2 where you would load into the map just in time to see the TARDIS dematerializing.
This is an episode that gets better with every rewatch. You will come back to it several times, I hope, on your own journey, as different things happen. It is on its own brilliant and becomes even more brilliant upon rewatch.
Both Classic and New Doctor Who have always been scary. “SILENCE IN THE LIBRARY/FOREST OF THE DEAD” two parter is one of my favourite stories in Doctor Who Series 4.
From here to honestly the end of the Tennant era is a hell of a run
The Doctor: Oh, don't tell me you're archeologists.
River: you have a problem with archeologists?
The Doctor: I'm a Time traveler, I laugh at archeologists.
River: Professor River Song, archeologist.
She sent her message to the wrong incarnation.
Perhaps the reason for the Weeping Angel vibes is that this two-part episode and Blink were both written by Steven Moffat. I believe of all the writers, he was the one who understood time travel the most.
Oh my god, we're already here!!!!!! We got to my giiiirrrrrlllll!!!!
"Kinda giving weeping angels vibes." I'm assuming you know by now, but same writer.
i imagine at this point she does but apparently doesnt pay attention to the written by in the intro lol
21:03 - "How did we watch this as kids?"
I was about 14 and scared shitless.
I feel like watching this show as kids is a defining experience in the UK. The show has been known for scaring kids behind the couch since the 60s when they first introduced the Daleks. The scariest episodes always produced the best games (like themed variants of tig) on the playground.
Location report: Filmed in Swansea Guild Hall, the City Council Chamber is where Miss Evangelista died. The round room in the library is actually a disused library in Swansea.
Only just disused - they moved out a few weeks before filming. University art wing now.
The Brangwyn art panels are in darkness.😂
@@AlmightyCRJ The Brangwyn Panels are spectacular, but a bit of a give away. Originally destined for the House of Lords but fortunately now in Swansea.
Really enjoyed your reaction and engagement. This is a great episode (another by Stephen Moffatt, who previous wrote The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances in Season 1, The Girl in the Fireplace in season 2, and Blink in Season 3) and River Song is an amazing character.
I think this episode might have one of the show’s best cold opens.
NOw we meet River. She is epic.
The dust in sunbeams is almost as disturbing in reality. It is mostly all our dead skin that has flaked off. So we breathe in each other's dead skin (I teach anatomy and physiology).
The Male statue 6:49 is Josh Dallas who played "Prince Charming" In Once Upon A Time and was also "Fandral" in the first Marvel Thor movie.
the actress who played miss evangelista was married to elon musk, twice. take from that what you will. she's now very happy with Thomas Brodie-Sangster (wee blonde boy in Human nature/family of blood. also love actually, game of thrones, maze runner, nanny mcphee, etc)
Don’t forget she was also in St. Trinian’s and Pride and Prejudice even before she was in this.
@gerstelb St Trinians is prob where Musk got the hots for her! Also, the Syren nurse from the pirate ship during 11's run was in St Trinians too. Coming in at about 6 foot 3!
@ SPOILERS!
She also had a bit part in Thor: The Dark World. But Musk?! TWICE?!
_Really?_ Ha!
Thank you for your amzing reaction again. So happy that we are now at the beginning of the really great episodes and storys.
Now I'm really looking forward to see your reaction for the second part of this amazing story, and curious about the Professor.
And so it begins
This 2-parter is when Donna became my favorite companion. She is such a good person as first seen with her interaction with the Ood.
At the time, I was not into this episode... looking back it is amazing! No SPOILERS everyone!
She has finished the season you're good to talk about a few episodes in advance.
Love this double episode.
@@nathandts3401that's true, but there might be people watching the show for the first along with her reactions
@@thepandorica1660 Fair point, but I'm pretty sure most people watch reaction channels to see how others react to stuff that the viewer already likes. Not that I am going to spoil anything explicitly.
Oh and always mention the music. . . Murray Gold creates such tension . . . Wonder . . . He’s genius.
Gold is an absolute master of the leitmotif. His Eleventh Doctor era is just filthy with incredible music.
1:47 this guy who’s counselling the child is also currently in Eastenders (a soap opera in the uk)
He was also in Punisher : War Zone.
Colin Salmon
He's also stepfather of Oliver Queen in Arrow.
And in this episode of "Doctor Who" he is Dr Moon, but when writing this episode Steven Moffat thought about a very distant future incarnation of the Doctor (like 42nd or 51st) being Dr Moon. It was never made canon, but it's still interesting
Wait, who is doctor Moon on Eastenders?
How did I miss that?
@@quintuscrinis George.
maybe, because it's christmas or i'm feeling slightly ill - but these reactions have been making me tear up.
Christmas and feeling ill too I’m teary. Achoo 🤧
RIVER
River is in the building. Must be a leak or something. Hope it doesn't turn into a pond or something.
@miller-joel I could sing quite the Melody about that.
@@hades4134 A song full of spoilers.
@@miller-joel Like some sort of singing tower
Love her
6:10 16 years and I've never understood why the girl floats until Emme said it.
Gas Masks, Monsters under the Bed, Statues and now Shadows, welcome to part 4 of Steven Moffat's lovely "Have a New Fear" series.
This two parter is one of my faves, such a solid two episodes and still such a joy to watch
Sarah Jane has her own Sonic device, Sonic Lipstick
I'm not even a Doctor Who fan, and even I know this is the beginning of something amazing.
No spoilers...But this episode is one of The Best Tennant era Doctor Who episodes for lots of reasons. Also, Talulah Riley, the woman who played Miss Evangelista, was married for a couple of years to ...Musk. And just this year she married actor Thomas Brodie-Sangster who played schoolboy Tim Latimer in the The Family of Blood that you watched a couple of months ago.
This 2 parter is Steven Moffat at his best👏🏻
So the library (the main area where all the books fly off the shelves) was a real library. I grew up going here every weekend to get a new book for the week. It was gorgeous. Sad that they closed it down to move the library. But it's now an art school so that's awesome :3 💛
@@TheHallokween I maintain that libraries are the most underappreciated public service in the country. The internet dilutes its utility a little bit, but having a place in every local authority that has knowledge and entertainment available to working class children and adults is how we better ourselves. Just gotta encourage people to use them.
This is one of my absolute favorite two-parters. I love the character of River Song!
The Doctor: "I'm a Time traveller, I laugh at archaeologists." I bet he wouldn't say that to Bernice Summerfield.
I can't say anything cos ... spoilers, but this is one of the great moments where Doctor Who continuity shines.
Was looking for a reaction to this episode since I started watching a season of Doctor Who I haven't seen last night and here was yours, super recently! Loved your reaction and super excited to see more
I watched this show as a Kid by being terrified of the dark for a year after these episodes 😂😂
You are getting so close to what I would consider the golden age of Doctor Who. I have been loving these reactions.
I coudln't watch weeping angels as a kid, i did watch this, and it scared me xD. used to watch all these with my family when they were releasing
17:11 btw that painting of the wolf and girl is a reference to rose becoming bad wolf
What scares you in the Dark is your Imagination. Emma, have a Great Christmas and an even Better New Year.🎄🎅
So glad you finally reached this. The River Song arc is my favorite part of new Who.
Steven Moffat does it again! Making everyone afraid of shadows and the phrase “ Hey! Who turned out the lights?” Also introducing one of the best and most fun characters in DW. Looking forward to the second part. Oh, and Merry Christmas!
No , it has mentioned before. It can't do wood
This is that rarest of two parters for any show....part 2 outshines the first and not a second is wasted in either.
If it has not yet been mentioned, in the 'Classic' series there was a story titled Terror of the Autons which was the introduction to the Nestene Consciousness. At the time, in the UK there was a 'National Viewer's and Listeners Association' which was formed to 'uphold standards in the Media'. It's chairperson was a Mary Whitehouse who on a few occassions felt compelled to criticise and even litigate against the series because of its violence and frightening scenes. I remember some 'innocent' items, such as plastic daffodils and childrens plastic baby dolls being imbued with 'murderous intent'.
"What's CAL?" And the rich owner guy's head snaps to the Doctor.
Ooh, very cool, Emme! Hope you're having a great Christmas Eve so far!
✨ New fear unlocked! ✨
This episode marks the starts of a run absolute stellar episodes.
“Spoilers.”🤣🤣🤣
Oh, this is such a great start to a long, running set of episodes
I remember being a kid in school walking about going "donna noble has left the library, donna noble has been saved"
Yes, River made it perfectly clear that the Doctor is the youngest that she's ever seen him.
But that doesn't necessarily mean that it's the first time he sees her.
She was hoping there were other times in the Doctor's past that she didn't know about yet.
I think what upsets me most about Miss Evangelista's last thoughts is that the last thing she did was scream, the last thing that loops out of the communicator is "Ice-cream" or "I scream". Like she's still trying to scream, and that's what is coming out of the communicator.
THIS TWO PARTER IS THE ONE THAT GOT ME INTO WATCHING DOCTOR WHO IN THE FIRST PLACE! I LOVE IT SO MUCH! THE MYSTERY! THE SCI-FI! RIVER SONG! IT'S AWESOME
Steven Moffat who wrote this 2 parter had been named Russell T. Davies successor as showrunner for Doctor Who shortly before this came out. It had been in the works for a while before that though, so River Song and her connection to the Doctor seemed like it may have been a hint of things to come.
Was it? You’ll find out eventually.🤷🏻♂️
Moffat gave us some of the BEST things. River, Weeping Angels, 11 & 12…
My sister is still traumatised from "Hey! Who turned out the lights?". Along with a specific public toilet look (appears later on in the show).
This is one of several in the second half of Season 4 i've looked forward to seeing you react to.
I love River Song. She is such a great character. One of my favorite modern companions. River’s catch phrase is “spoilers.”
Interesting you mentioned weeping angels in the original script they were going to be introduced in this episode until plans were changed and they were moved to blink
I don't remember a lot of doctor who I watched with my family, but this is definitely one of them.
River Song is my favorite side character of all New Who. I'm happy to see she is already here as part of your Doctor Who journey.
Are you my mummy?
Don't Blink!
Hey, who turned off the lights?
I used to work at a factory that some nights I would have to go back to the factory in the dark to unload trucks. I would unlock the door walk into the little room that we use the enter the factory. I would be holding my phone and using it as a touch in front of myself to find the light switch. I would look at my shadow in front of me in front of my light. That was spooky. I would have to remind myself it was created by the large security light across the road at the container storage place. Shadows?
Here we go. Now it really gets good.
I watched these as a teenager and when I saw this episode for the first time I was in my room at night with the lights off 🤣😭 Still one of my favorite stories in the show
This is my favorite two episodes and I've been enjoying your reactions to Doctor who and I can't you get to the finale
Just realised that the person playing the first Node, the one that says "Count the shadows", is the same actress that played the therapist (Dr. Sharon Fieldstone) in Ted Lasso. First time i have ever noticed it!
The other is Josh Dallas who went onto Once Upon a Time, Thor and Manifest.
love these episodes!
not every shadow, but any shadow.
7:37 oh, it’s only the best character in the series…
8:55 sure will
20:49 I like how creeped out you got here lol
21:19 the two episode arc is amazing and is definitely a favorite
I’m so excited you are finally here. River is my absolute favorite character in the series. Can’t wait to see more.
Merry Christmas 🎄
idk if you play and videogames, but in one of fallout new vegas dlc, there is a easter egg to the "hey who turned out the lights" with skeletons being controlled by suits can apear and say that phrase
Fun fact about Ms. Evangelista becoming smart (since you've already done S4e9) outside the show: her actress was studying for natural science degree around the same time. Then stopped due to marrying and moving to US with husband... Elon Musk. And after divorcing him later (twice actually) went for degree again. Takes a smart girl to play a stupid one.
About Vashta Nerada sounding scary - not sure whether the writer heard the phrase and liked it, or it's just a coincidence - it's very close to Bulgarian words ("вашта нерада" in Cyrillic writing) approximately meaning "not happy for you".
Thanks, Emme! ⏳ I love that you're finally meeting 'River Song'.
"It would be nice to have a kid around for an adventure"? How quickly she forgot "Are you my mommy?"!
True. Another very scary two-parter. But with fewer fatalities.
Welcome to the Riverlands.
I'll gladly watch this on Xmas eve! Fantastic Who!
This is my favourite two parter of the whole show 🤩
What a good christmas present 😌
Like all of Steven Moffat's stories from the first four years of DW, it's another masterpiece. Glad you loved it.
and thus begins the start of the greatest dr who arc that will last a couple of seasons
Weeping Angel vibes? Same writer.
One of the Iconic Episodes, this and part 2
lol What's Elon Musk's Ex- Wife (Miss Evangelista) doing here in the library?
Ha she married him twice. She’s now married to the young man who played the kid who stole the watch in Family of Blood.
Whatever did she see in him? I wonder what she thinks of him now.
Mostly dying. Mostly.
I come for the reactions but stay for the cute makeup and hairstyles!
Lovely ! Merry Christmas to you all
I didn't see it as a kid but it still freaked me.
Merry Christmas emme
OMG this episode is sooo much better after knowing the full arc. (Sorry, that full arc is going to take a LONG time to get through.) Tears.
Now begins the best stretch of DW stories from here until S6 E2. What a ride.
Hey who turned out the lights.
The similarity to blink in this episode comes from the fact that it is he same writer and era of the show - arguably the best combination of all new Who so far. 😅