Yes it's a fine album but it sold bugger all.... I think only LIKE AN OLD FASHIONED WALTZ sold a decent amount of units.... SANDY is a truly beautiful album too and I loved the artwork in the gatefold.
I loved North Star Grassman and the Ravens from the first time I heard it and still do. Blackwaterside is one of the best songs I know. I guess I like her introspective and slightly strange lyrics-they're evocative of somethng mystical and from deep in the subconcious. "Sandy" of course is excellent, but less idiosyncratic and personal.
Really great. Look forward to the last bit. It's a shame Jerry Donohue, Richard and Linda Thompson, and, of course, Joe Boyd couldn't be a part of this.
Was enjoying this until the dismissal of my favourite album of all time by any artist, 'The Northstar Grassman and the Ravens'. This is, in my my ears and mind the most beautiful and captivating example of Sandy Denny and I am horrified by the nonchalant way that those two blokes who seem to make up most of this documentary just skirt over it in favour of her commercial efforts that fail on most levels.
I'm guessing that Sandy was a big influence on Emmylou Harris, Kate and Anna McGarrigle, June Tabor, Lucinda Williams, Heidi Berry, and Beth Orton. Amongst others, of course.
I don't know what the chap at 16:41 is talking about regarding this 'cracked element' business; there is absolutely no 'cracked element' on 'Solo', and as far as I can make out, Sandy's voice was still very fine, at least on this recording.
I think she did want a solo career..sounds like the rest of them couldn't accept her havingness!! No wonder her reluctance! And him saying "oh she just wanted to stay in a little band"....BS
I discovered sandy in 1973 in a record shop, I was 17 and she was to me, from a female perspective, totally, amazingly phenomenal lyrically musically and in the co-production on her solo albums she was superb. I enjoy hearing these technical & social interpersonal explanations TrebleClef and also about the sort of company issues and difficulties of late night Bar/Drinking concert venues and folk musicians surviving it. I Love her then and Love her now, from the first time I ever heard her sing.
@@thizabeth same! Except I was 19. I do wonder whether part of why she is so forgotten and overlooked is that she communicates the female experience so perfectly and in a way that men also love. Can't have that under patriarchy!
Who's the slim guy sitting on a chair in his study? Does he even like her stuff? 'The Strawbs can be discarded... Fairport weren't really where she wanted to be... Fotheringay were pretty weak... I mean I suppose you could say it's her best solo effort... blah blah blah...' lol. Shouldn't they be choosing fans for these documentaries? I think the thing to understand about Sandy Denny, and why she couldn't quite fit into the Joni Mitchell-style solo mould they had planned out for her, is that she was a tomboy at heart, which made her very appealing, but it meant she was most comfortable playing in a band with other musicians who were her friends, rather than having the huge ego required to be just 'SANDY'.
@@baronsaturday9529 he basically did what was called "cherry picking' where a manager sees more potential in one given member of an act and begins pressuring the individual to leave the band for a solo career managed by them. He certainly not the only manager or producer to do this, but I particularly love these two bands/artists. Thank god the production of Floyd was given over in house to EMI and he dropped them.
Thank you Treble Clef for the uploads. Waiting with great anticipation for the final excerpt
Can't wait for the last part. Many thanks for the uploads!
Most of Part 4 is uploaded as Sandy Denny: A Woman Left Alone
Can't wait for the last part. Alas I must. This is fascinating.
"North Star Grassmen and the Ravens" a commercial and CRITICAL failure? I LOVED IT!!!!
Agreed. It was a brilliant showcase of her talent.
Yes it's a fine album but it sold bugger all.... I think only LIKE AN OLD FASHIONED WALTZ sold a decent amount of units.... SANDY is a truly beautiful album too and I loved the artwork in the gatefold.
Yeah, Northstar's a great album, I bought this little box set with her solo work, and I love that one the best! :)
I loved North Star Grassman and the Ravens from the first time I heard it and still do. Blackwaterside is one of the best songs I know. I guess I like her introspective and slightly strange lyrics-they're evocative of somethng mystical and from deep in the subconcious. "Sandy" of course is excellent, but less idiosyncratic and personal.
Thanks for the memories
Great, thanks very much for these three. Any chance of getting the last part up - that would be wonderful!
Thanks from Argentina!.
Really great. Look forward to the last bit. It's a shame Jerry Donohue, Richard and Linda Thompson, and, of course, Joe Boyd couldn't be a part of this.
Was enjoying this until the dismissal of my favourite album of all time by any artist, 'The Northstar Grassman and the Ravens'. This is, in my my ears and mind the most beautiful and captivating example of Sandy Denny and I am horrified by the nonchalant way that those two blokes who seem to make up most of this documentary just skirt over it in favour of her commercial efforts that fail on most levels.
They are just stressing their opinions mate - just like you are... Personally I don't think it is that great either and I love Sandy's work.
Yeah, I don't understand their opinions either, I love Northstar Grassman & The Ravens, it's her best solo work!
It's been a year and a half now-any chance of posting part 4?
And why wasn't part 4 posted when the first three parts were?
Part 4 please!
Part #4?.....still waiting expectantly!!!
I'm guessing that Sandy was a big influence on Emmylou Harris, Kate and Anna McGarrigle, June Tabor, Lucinda Williams, Heidi Berry, and Beth Orton. Amongst others, of course.
Don't forget Kate Bush! (And by extension all the artists influenced by her!)
I love The Northstar Grassman & The Ravens, I think it's her best solo album!
What is the point to upload not complete video? (without part 4)
Same here where's part 4. Cannot wait.
Do you have the last part?.Thanks.
3 yrs later and still no part 4?
God bless her xx
Please man, let us see the last part!.
Great document....any info on last part?
Please let us see the last part.
I don't know what the chap at 16:41 is talking about regarding this 'cracked element' business; there is absolutely no 'cracked element' on 'Solo', and as far as I can make out, Sandy's voice was still very fine, at least on this recording.
I think she did want a solo career..sounds like the rest of them couldn't accept her
havingness!! No wonder her reluctance! And him saying "oh she just wanted to stay in a little band"....BS
I discovered sandy in 1973 in a record shop, I was 17 and she was to me, from a female perspective, totally, amazingly phenomenal lyrically musically and in the co-production on her solo albums she was superb. I enjoy hearing these technical & social interpersonal explanations TrebleClef and also about the sort of company issues and difficulties of late night Bar/Drinking concert venues and folk musicians surviving it. I Love her then and Love her now, from the first time I ever heard her sing.
@@thizabeth same! Except I was 19. I do wonder whether part of why she is so forgotten and overlooked is that she communicates the female experience so perfectly and in a way that men also love. Can't have that under patriarchy!
Treble Clef ..... Where's part 4...?
Where's #4?!
@martin1099lc thanks for the Part 4 suggestion, here is the link ua-cam.com/video/HQjkCGPlH7U/v-deo.html
It would be great to get Ashley Hutchings for an interview
I've met him and he's way too grumpy. I don't think he even liked her much.
... and still do.
Are you kiddin'?.Post it!
lol I guess SOON means 7 years or more? ha ha fucking Part 4
was she pushed?
Who's the slim guy sitting on a chair in his study? Does he even like her stuff? 'The Strawbs can be discarded... Fairport weren't really where she wanted to be... Fotheringay were pretty weak... I mean I suppose you could say it's her best solo effort... blah blah blah...' lol. Shouldn't they be choosing fans for these documentaries? I think the thing to understand about Sandy Denny, and why she couldn't quite fit into the Joni Mitchell-style solo mould they had planned out for her, is that she was a tomboy at heart, which made her very appealing, but it meant she was most comfortable playing in a band with other musicians who were her friends, rather than having the huge ego required to be just 'SANDY'.
Kinda funny how he dismissed her work on Battle for Evermore as “meh”. That song is absolutely beautiful.
Why do they keep throwing shade at the North Star grass man that album is beautiful
Imagine if a man had written it! He probably would've eclipsed Bowie and been hailed as a genius.
Joe Boyd did the same thing to sandy as he did to Syd Barrett
What did he do?
@@baronsaturday9529 he basically did what was called "cherry picking' where a manager sees more potential in one given member of an act and begins pressuring the individual to leave the band for a solo career managed by them.
He certainly not the only manager or producer to do this, but I particularly love these two bands/artists.
Thank god the production of Floyd was given over in house to EMI and he dropped them.
@@nowhereman7813
Joe Boyd only produced Pink Floyd's first single Arnold Layne. He wasn't their manager.
@@Wotsitorlabart I think he represented Syd briefly when solo. No one could manage Syd except mabey his mum
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