About ascension. Basically ascension is the final goal of cultivation, though not many are able to ascend. Some people cultivate their entire lives and never become gods. Some very talented cultivators stay as humans, but become immortal. Though in TGCF, unlike some other cultivation stories, ascension works a bit different. Sure, you CAN ascend purely through cultivation. Mu Qing ascended this way, for example. But you can also ascend through a single heroic action. In Xie Lian's case he did both. He cultivated for a long time and was very diligent, but he was also a remarkable and heroic person and for this reason he ascended at an extremely young age. He wasn't chosen by a person, or a God. Definitely not chosen by the Emperor. He's just the most powerful God, but he used to be human too. Gods are technically "chosen" by the universe. Also, in TGCF ascension is in your fate. Some people are destined to ascend, and some aren't. If a person isn't meant to ascend, there's nothing they can do to change that. This will be relevant in the novels.
Thank you! I've gotten quite a few comments about this topic now, I'm glad I've been corrected lol This is so interesting to me, this "cultivation" concept is super interesting. It's like discovering a whole new magic system!
Just a tiny clarification: the Black Immor, in the same way as Qi Rong, is usually referred to as Black Water Sinking Ships, and the White Cloth Calamity is sometimes called White No-Face Also it is SO hard not to say anything when you’re making your theories. Most of the answers come way deep in the novels and might not make it to the screen for a couple seasons yet
omg yeahhhh I'm realising that I've been too optimistic... the series is longer than I thought which means I'll probably have to take the plunge and buy the books if I want my answers dsfsdfjkjlsdf thank you for the clarification!! I appreciate it!
God I love your board updates. Your dedication is amazing. And I love your excitement when they appear on screen together, you make me feel like I'm watching it for the first time ❤️😭
Thank you for your sweet words!! ❤ It's easy to be dedicated since the show is so intriguing... and I am motivated to join the fandom lol And of course I'm excited!!! 4 eps in and they've only had two scenes together !!! 😭😭
So, you have his name and his face now. The next episode is going to have more! It's so exciting to watch this with you and your board is as amazing as your sleuthing.
So, on how ascension works. If you do something great (not good or evil, just something great) the universe makes you a god. No one personally makes you a god but yourself. As for Xie Lian and the Emperor, the Emperor didn't make him a god, he just knew that Xie Lian is going to ascend and wanted to take a look at him. A god can take you as their assistant, but that doesn't make you a god, that just gives you more time to figure it out yourself. That's actually why i find Pei Xiu so fascinating. He never was a deputy, Pei Ming didn't give him anything, he just ascended himself at the age of twenty and they are working in more of a partnership (older relative-younger relative) than master-servant status. That kinda amazes me
Girl your sense of humor is hilarious 😂 I’m here for it @5:35 I CANNOT 🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐 *throws phone at the wall* About the bandages, fun fact. In the books, he takes off his bandages in like Chapter 2 briefly, so you know the answer to what that’s all about. I actually like that in the donghua they decided to hide these, it makes it more mysterious and they don’t talk about it right away. It will be hinted at sometime in the show, but you learn more about it in the books. Also I really appreciate your discussions and theories throughout the episode. TGCF has a complex plot with complex characters, and there’s so many details to take note of. It’s not a chill watch anime 😂 I feel like a lot of people get confused and don’t like this show as much because they don’t pay attention to the world building and cultural references, so your attention to detail for this is fantastic! We all appreciate it trust me Lmao already on episode 5 and you need a bigger board with all these intros 😂 I LOVE FENG XIN and his hot headed ass Yeah Mu Qing is the epitome of a wet cat with all his sass OX CART SCENE MY BELOVED! 💕
That time stamp is at such a crucial moment BUT SO VAGUE AS TO WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS help Right! Xie Lian's bandages seem like it's just one of the many mysteries to reveal about him... but apparently the book tells you right away lol. I'll see if I can't figure it out (I think someone might have already told me this morning...). I think I realised that this wasn't going to be a chill watch at the end of the first episode.... lol. 30 minutes of so many mysterious characters with a lot of feelings and THEN another one right at the end followed by a 5 minute backstory montage complete with music???? I felt my fingers itch... but what's the use of a corkboard if you aren't going to... well, use it? ... I really might need a bigger one no joke omg Thanks for tuning in, this was a lovely comment!!
Also, the English dub says the four devils, but the most common translation and the one used in the books is the four calamities. The green ghost, Qi Rong, is not a devastation level ghost like the other three, he’s only a wrath, albeit a strong one. He was just grouped in with the others to make it even.
you're gonna like the next episode ! also you pick up stuff really fast! this is by far my favorite episode as we get a formal introduction to our bad boy love interest! so the second episode he was revealed as "dangerous" but then again, Xuan Ji and Qi Rong (the green ghost) are also seen as dangerous. this episode though we learn that butterfly man or Hua Cheng is more than just dangerous as he is called "a headache to the heavenly realm". the book, however remarks that the heavenly officials both fear and respect him, mostly for the amount of balls this man has for just strolling into heaven, challenging 33 gods and actually winning. white no face aka the white-clothed calamity aka Bai Wuxiang is a very important character but isn't mentioned much in s1. also Bai Wuxiang translates to White No-Face. also, Hua Cheng's official title is Crimson Rain Sought Flower. Hua Cheng (花城) "flower" "city" but is also translated as "city of flowers"
I have known Hua Cheng for a grand total of 5 minutes but I can already tell he has the biggest balls in the entirety of heaven, hell and the mortal realm-- Thank you for this additional info, they both fear AND respect him... I love that actually
You can never yap too much about Hua Cheng or fangirl too hard over Xie Lian. Just to be clear - the donghua will not include any openly BL scenes because Chinese censorship is stupidly strict. But the creators of the show do push every boundary and slide in every hint and ramp up all the romance elements they can get away with. We all know this is a romance from reading the books or hearing the tnfo, so we can feverishly pick out all these things and squeal like dolphins whenever there is flirting or tension or music cues. The only way to ascend as a god is to do something extraordinary - not "good", just amazing and impossible for a normal human to achieve. If a god makes you their assistant/raises you up to Middle Heaven, then they basically are giving you a chunk of their own power so that you can be useful. This is what Xie Lian originally did for Feng Xin and Mu Qing. They later did an amazing feat on their own and properly ascended. Of course, Middle Official's have way better chances of finding and then performing amazing tasks that most humans who hope to ascend one day. The Emperor only realized Xie Lian was destined to ascend - he did not help make it happen or choose Xie Lian personally.
Thank you for these clarifications! Yeah, I kinda guessed we wouldn't see anything explicitly BL in the donghua, but I am still amazed that the books apparently are canonically so! That said, I'm used to surviving on meager subtext only in shows/movies/books---I'm sure I'll enjoy all the attempts at pushing boundaries... especially knowing what the source material is! And I have completely misunderstood the rules of ascension, so this is a major help. THANK YOU!
I love your theories and speculations! They are so fun to listen to. Butrerfly Man AKA the lovely Hua Cheng 花城 "Flower" "City" -This is the meaning that Xie Lian says suits him 🤭 Qi Rong 戚容 "face of sorrow" Bai Wuxiang 白无相 "white no-face" San Lang 三郎 as they said literally means third son. Nicknames by order of birth are common.
I was thinking of just screenshotting them, since they haven't really made appearances yet... Named characters I can easily find in episode reviews or on top of a google search... I'm being careful not to scroll too far, I promise! 😅😅
Oooh, you’re the first reactor I’ve seen who has wondered about Hua Cheng’s motives in challenging the gods. I think most people assume it’s just a power move.
Really?? But it's such a oddly specific number, and just the fact that he specifically challenged Mu Qing and Feng Xin??? and they all have connections to Xianle? It's so suspicious! I'm sure there's something behind it.... which I might find out.... one day *cries in 8 volumes*
@@SpacedOutPuffin Exactly! I mean, it’s possible that he challenged whoever happened to be around, but it’s still suspicious enough to be a question worth asking. But it is difficult to follow the story, especially Westerners who are not familiar with Chinese mythology and have a lot of trouble with the names. You’re doing much better than most, and I love your commentary. That doesn’t mean all your guesses are right, but they are good guesses!
@@dajtoad1 lolol I say more or less whatever comes to mind, I don't expect to be correct half the time... 😂 But I'm having a lot of fun! Thank you for your kind words ❤
Just watching you composing theories, the reasoning behind them, the attention to detail... It's a joy! The reactions are gold, the extra commentary is priceless
Hua Cheng in rhe next episode will answer most of your questions about his intentions ngl, especially since you're so good at picking up on details. Can't wait for your next reaction!
Say, if you decide to read the books (and since we only have two seasons for now), I wouldn't mind to check your reactions and progress, even if on Patreon and not edited or only in written form. There are so many interesting characters and arcs (minor and major) and I'm sure you will bring so many interesting thoughts and theories. No pressure, of course, just letting you know if you ever consider something like that. These reactions are already so enjoyable, thank you so much for taking the time!
I think every step on this journey is bringing me closer to reading those books lol... if that indeed happens, I wouldn't mind sharing my reading updates--I just don't know much about how people "react" to books or film reading logs since I've never watched any such videos... I'll have to think about how to go about it, but if it's something doable for me I'll make sure it happens!
@SpacedOutPuffin I would love for you to upload you reading. I have watched a couple people doing it and I loved the feeling of rereading one of my fav books with others.
Wow, thank you so much!! I obviously have no comparison to make, but that means I’m doing something right? 🤩 I’ll try my best (which is easy to do when the source material is so entertaining!)
Info for your conspiracy board: the ghost kings are known like that because they reach the level devastatio level, they can destroy a kingdom. Qi Rong - Green ghost or Night-touring green lantern, he make the forest of bodies. He Xuan - Ship sinking black water, he is calm most of the times Bai Wuxian - the White clothed Calamity, his name means white, no face, was killed by the heavenly emperor. Hua Cheng - Crimson rain sought flower (Xue Yu Tan Hua, is so cute to hear it) the name is flower and city, but i think together means red or something similar (that is why Xie Lian say it suits him). Qi Rong is actually a near-devastation ghost, but they include him to be the four demons or the four great calamities. Opposing to the four famous tales, these are 4 gods that make the more amazing things to ascend: Xie Lian - The crown prince who pleased the gods (Tai Zi Yue Shen) Shi Qingxuan - The young lord who poured wine Pei Ming - The general who broke his sword Yushi Huang - The princess who slit her throat
@@SpacedOutPuffin it's not really that big of a deal? it's just characters of each tale revealed later in the books so I was not sure if it's a spoiler or not 😅
@@SpacedOutPuffin Calm, is not a spoiler (a little) in the books when the goods are explaining the four calamities to Xie Lian, they also explain the 4 famous tales (Xie Lian said he know about him just because he's one of them) So is not a big deal, the donhua just ignore this information 😅 if you know or not is not a big difference but please take care against comments because you must be know the tittles but not the characters names so forget the names just like you did with Hua Cheng 🙏🏻🤣
I DIDN'T KNOW YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GAY HAHAH that's great. Loving your theories and board! May I suggest you think about the first phrase this red clothed man says? I find the idea/critic he shares regarding equality very interesting in their world. Loking foward next episode! Hope it gets easier to edit with time
I DID NOTICE IT on like the second watch but I think my brain was too overactive to remember by the time I was trying to analyze lol, I'll try and mention it in the next one! And yes, I hope I get better at this... I'm learning new things every time I edit. I NEED to edit out things because I end up sitting in silence for like a minute at a time just thinking--- I'm not as quick witted as the video seems to show lol, I need thinking time! But I'm sure there are tips and tricks to make the process easier. Maybe I should look for a youtube course on it lol if I become famous I will pay an editor lololol
@@SpacedOutPuffin You were being hypnotized by the red man like every normal human being it's okay ahhaha I just thought you would like the observation he made!! Oh man, hope it gets easier and faster for you somehow (I sometimes have to edit videos for college and it gets stressing lol). Tho you don't have to take out every time you think, it can maybe add to the suspense and will get you a little bit less work? In any case, I do hope you becomes famous lolol
another amazing reaction with so many smart observations! i think you're my favorite tgcf reactor, I get so excited when I see a new upload!! all your questions will be answered, but most of them in the books as the donghua only covers 2 out of 8 volumes :)) when I first watched it, I didn't do it with the intention of reading the books but as I finished the second season I found myself unable to wait for more, and made the great decision of immediately reading them, think it took me less than two weeks, I was drawn in completely!
Hello!! Thank you for your kind comment, happy to have you here ♡ And omg... Less than two weeks on 8 books!! You're amazing omg... or you got hit really hard with the hyper obsession hahaha...
I don't know if it's been mentioned in the comments yet, but seasons 1 and 2 currently cover book 1 and about 1/2 of book 2 (in the physical copies). Anyway, I have watched a lot of tgcf reactors but so far your theories and ways you input your thoughts have been by far my favorite. I really like the board too and I think people would agree that it is really fun and interesting.
This is such a kind comment!! I mean, I haven't watched any other tgcf reactors (obviously, that would kind of defeat the purpose 😁) but I'm glad you're liking my take on the genre! I, for one, am super happy with finding a show that lets me *think* instead of just figuring things out immediately. Thank you again for stopping by, I hope I can keep finding interesting things to talk about!
You are one of my favorite reactor rn. Your attention to details and theories etc. I love it. I read tgcf when it was still translated in websites no official or anything, danmei ( means Chinese BL) wasn't popular as much as today. Just about 100 chapters or something TAT TGCF isn't my favorite but still i love it a lot and i become excited as you learn more about the story.
literally blushing?? thank you so much, that means I'm doing something right huh? ❤❤ I'm trying hard to understand the story... because it's interesting AND because I'm personally interested in seeing if it will make me a fan haha. omg, fan-translations online... only 100 chapters.... you're an OG huh.... I respect you so much hahahah I'm glad you liked TGCF enough to want to see other people react to it! What's your favourite then?
@@SpacedOutPuffin My favorite is Mo Dao Zu Shi( it is also my first danmei ) which is the second novel written by Mo Xiang Tong Xiu the author of TGCF(tgcf is the third novel) Mo dao zu shi also has a donghua ( chinese animation ) it has 3 season and drama ( 50 episodes named The Untamed ) and it is finished. After tgcf if you have enough time and wanna continue i can recommend mdzs.
@@sukrannurtek796 THE UNTAMED---- I KNOW THIS NAME from like, tumblr or twitter years and years ago lol idk idk I remember briefly reading discourse about the two leads raising a kid and whether or not the kid is considered their son or not in the cultural setting... that's all I know about The Untamed though! A brief taster for you, in case I ever do watch this show hahahaha
Another fun non-spoilery fact - the English voice actors ship the characters and their romance. When Hua Cheng's voice actor was asked (at a fan convention) what he wanted to see from the series was "I want them to bang". The voice actor for Xie Lien worked on the English dub's script and has read the entire series.
8:18 Honestly, when I have seen a character who hides their neck in world of supernatural, It usually hides a deathwound or a scar from attempted/successful hanging. With wrists also hidden? It screams either suicide attempt, or torture scars.
Welcome to the fandom, im enjoying your reaction a lot, tgcf is my favorite romance ever. If you ever react to the novels ( unfortunately the donghua does fall short even though it is wonderful) I will for sure stick around
Thank you!! I’m still taking toddler steps into all this, but it’s been enjoyable so far. You’re all very welcoming and informative!! And yes, I have the feeling that my sudden investment into this will lead me towards those books sooner rather than later lmao
@@SpacedOutPuffin if you want to check out how other ppl reacted to the novel, here are a couple channels: gaywatch, romania black and Ulysses n. Owen, they all have done it differently but it was fun
Subtext will exist in the donghua for sure bc the ccp restrictions but the book is so worth reading for the full and clear love story esp bc they kiss alottt
So I've been told, yeah--- but KNOWING the original intent does make interpreting the subtext a whole lot easier lol... omg harold... the boys are kissing!!
BUTTERFLY MAN TIME BUTTERFLY MAN TIME BUTTERFLY MAN TIME! :D 1:28 so i can see how you would think that bc this is basically the case for live action "BLs" as those are censored/banned in china, donghuas are too but they can usually get away with a bit more obvious gayness, but you still probably won't see any gay kisses or overt declarations of love. however, most live action dramas and donghuas that are labeled as "BL" or "bromance", like tgcf, are adaptations of novels which are explicitly gay, as writing gay webnovels is not banned (and they are pretty much all webnovels, as published books in china are also more censored... tgcf was originally published as a webnovel, but when it got popular enough to have a printed version in china, that version was edited to be more censored, although the author did her best to keep the original meaning there). technically the tgcf donghua is censored to an extent too, you'll probably continue watching it and think it's really gay (and it is), but there are a few scenes that got censored (off the top of my head, i can only think of one that happens in season 2, I can't think of any in season 1. but i can point them out as you come across those scenes if you want! obviously don't want to say anything now bc spoilers) 11:45 when i first read tgcf i was so shocked at xiao ying's death. not the fact that she did die necessarily, but how it was treated by the narrative. it helps set the tone and lend seriousness to the gravity of the things that are happening in the story. with fantasy stories like this where you have larger than life characters and events, it can be easy to lose sight of the risks and consequences at stake in any given moment, but mxtx (the author) uses moments like xiao ying's death to bring the viewer/reader back to reality. it's so sad :( 20:19 to summarize the Four Calamities/Four Devils: Hua Cheng (our boy!) - Devastation Rank, his Four Calamities moniker is "Crimson Rain Sought Flower" Qi Rong - Wrath (but a very strong one), Four Calamities Moniker is Green Amor/Green Night Light Walker (or the other translations i mentioned before... but you get the point) Black Amor - Devastation, water demon. We only know his moniker at this point, but the more common translation of it is "Black Water Sinking Ships" or just "Black Water" for short White Calamity aka "Bai Wuxiang" - Devastation, the most terrifying of the four. actually Bai Wuxiang is also a moniker and not a proper name, it literally translates to "White No Face". he's usually referred to as that or "White-Clothed Calamity" 24:29 not confirming or denying anything to avoid spoilers, but during this scene in the novel, the narration states that "the name Hua Cheng was very obviously fake". it literally translates to "flower city" so it doesn't exactly sound like a name someone would give their child in Chinese, do with that info what you will! 31:58 spelled "Shi Wudu", the god of water and wealth 43:32 the proper name for "Mount Furnace" is "Mount Tong'lu" btw :) (seriously, i do love the dub, but some of the translation choices made for the proper names are a bit odd i'm not going to lie) loving your reactions as always, it's so fun hearing your theories, i think when you're further along in the story you'll have a fun time looking back on it lol! on to the next episode!
user lapillity my love!! thank you for coming back, and for keep taking the time to write these and make sure I don't screw up too badly!! ♡ I'm taking notes, as per usual lol I'd love for you to point out the "censored" scenes after I've come across them, I think it would be really interesting to know and compare!
@@SpacedOutPuffinof course! I always love when I see a new video in my subscription box when I get home from work! will do! 🫡 I'll be sure to point out any censored scenes as we come across them!
This is not clarified in the donhua yet, but it is explained in the books already. The thing around XL's neck is a chacle symbol of his banishment and bound his spiritual power (mana in the English dub). In fact, he has two chacles, one on his neck and the other one in his right ankle.
There are a LOT of things which are hinted or mentioned from an early point but aren't revealed until much later in the story. TGCF is a long story(8 books) and the 1st season covers the entire 1st book and second season covers around 70% of the 2nd book. I would really recommend reading the books, perhaps after you watch the season 2, because the books just have so much more detail and fun little info about the characters and the plot which can, more often than not, become important for future plot points. We cant even say for sure if the donghua will be able to cover the whole story since tgcf is such a long story and it's BL(considering china's increasing censorship TGCF may never get the chance to be completed imo) so i'd really recommend you to read the books if you're enjoying the story Some extra info for fun: While the official english books are divided in 8 books for publication convenience, the original chinese version was divided into 5 books. - The first book contained what the 1st and 2nd season of the donghua cover [book 1 and 70% book 2 of official eng release] - The second book is a complete flashback arc which shows the story of xie lian's first ascension and how he first got banished. [End portion of book 2 and 50% book 3 in eng books] - The third book picks up right where the 1st book left off. [rest of book 3 and book 4, 5 & 30% book 6 of eng books] - The fourth book is again a flashback arc and continues the story of xie lian's past after his first banishment. [Remaining portion of book 6 in eng books] - The fifth and final books picks up right where third book had left off. [Book 7 & 8 in eng book]
it seems like every step of the way to finishing this animation is leading me towards the books.... just in case, bookmarking this little book-guide lol
I must say, I much prefer (potentially maybe) HuaCheng’s voice in Mandarin. If you’ve listened to the Chinese dub, which version of his voice do you prefer? I just feel like the Chinese one sounds much younger and less “trying-too-hard-to-impress”. Like, the Chinese one is more on the cute side and the English one is more on the suave side. Not bashing on the English dub, it was still fantastic. It’s just a preference thing. But yes, how cool is the introduction to Hua Cheng, huh? Everyone’s shitting their pants, while Xie Lian’s off somewhere in his head, thinking about cute butterflies 😂
Ohhh that's hard, I like both in their own way but like you say--- they kind of feel like different interpretations of the character?? The English one is definitely more distinct, the Chinese voice actor definitely channels the carefree youth feeling more clearly... So far... I'll have both the cakes please!
Agreed. The English VA is far too obvious for my preference. He’s a great guy who’s done wonders with getting the dub done, but unfortunately I still don’t like his Hua Cheng acting. The Mandarin VA is far more in keeping with the character of HC at this point.
Hey you should write your theories down so you can look at them in the future after watching the show or reading the novel it will be great to see your reaction to how genius or stupid your theories are (btw i have just started watching your videos and i love them)
Hi, welcome!!! So glad to have you on board! AND YES, I actually do keep them written down in my notebook (the one you see me constantly flipping through in the reactions), but the notes are one big mess lolol... maybe I should organize them better. I imagine looking back at these once I finish the novels is going to be pretty funny
@@garimachahal2046 ❤❤ At the moment, I'm afraid I don't keep a tight schedule. I work a full job, so I can only record and edit at night... so far, I've gotten episodes out 2 times a week! I'm recording tonight, so hopefully it will be up sometimes on Sunday... but I can't make any promises, I'm pretty slow with the editing!
It will take time for some of the your questions to be answered. Might want to invest on the season two if you want to know certain things about Hua Cheng...
Доводилось ли вам видеть картины Омара Райана с девочками и монстрами? Вот примерно так в глазах остальных богов выглядит наша главная пара. 😉Но Мосян Тунсю так любит троп "ненадежный рассказчик", что кто знает? Если вы хотите избежать спойлеров, рекомендую не искать картинки остальных Бедствий. Да и упомянутых богов тоже. Просто подождите, пока они появятся в сериале и скопируйте оттуда. Артов со спойлерами очень очень много. Ваши теории чертовски хороши. Более того, даже ваши случайные шутки попали в цель, хотя в этом сезоне этого еще не раскроют. Но, когда станет ясен весь сюжет, вам будет так забавно пересматривать свои реакции. Сцена в телеге прелестна, не правда ли?
You're completely right, that's exactly what they must look like omg... 😂😂 I'll make sure not to search up pictures of the disasters, if I print anything it's mostly screenshots from the episodes or pictures from reviews of episodes I've already watched. Now that I know this series is so long I feel like I've only just started grasping the plot lol there will be so much more happening... but I'm enjoying it so far. I want to understand as much as I can. And yes... I loved this scene, I think I watched it 5 times...🥰
"A level 100 mega evolved ghost type pokemon"
😂
About ascension. Basically ascension is the final goal of cultivation, though not many are able to ascend. Some people cultivate their entire lives and never become gods. Some very talented cultivators stay as humans, but become immortal.
Though in TGCF, unlike some other cultivation stories, ascension works a bit different. Sure, you CAN ascend purely through cultivation. Mu Qing ascended this way, for example. But you can also ascend through a single heroic action. In Xie Lian's case he did both. He cultivated for a long time and was very diligent, but he was also a remarkable and heroic person and for this reason he ascended at an extremely young age. He wasn't chosen by a person, or a God. Definitely not chosen by the Emperor. He's just the most powerful God, but he used to be human too. Gods are technically "chosen" by the universe.
Also, in TGCF ascension is in your fate. Some people are destined to ascend, and some aren't. If a person isn't meant to ascend, there's nothing they can do to change that. This will be relevant in the novels.
Thank you! I've gotten quite a few comments about this topic now, I'm glad I've been corrected lol This is so interesting to me, this "cultivation" concept is super interesting. It's like discovering a whole new magic system!
My first impression of Hua Cheng was ‘damn, this man is whipped for our boy Xie Lian’.
Your name reminds me of love and deespace
(*ᴗ͈ˬᴗ͈)ꕤ*.ﾟ
Just a tiny clarification: the Black Immor, in the same way as Qi Rong, is usually referred to as Black Water Sinking Ships, and the White Cloth Calamity is sometimes called White No-Face
Also it is SO hard not to say anything when you’re making your theories. Most of the answers come way deep in the novels and might not make it to the screen for a couple seasons yet
omg yeahhhh I'm realising that I've been too optimistic... the series is longer than I thought which means I'll probably have to take the plunge and buy the books if I want my answers dsfsdfjkjlsdf
thank you for the clarification!! I appreciate it!
God I love your board updates. Your dedication is amazing. And I love your excitement when they appear on screen together, you make me feel like I'm watching it for the first time ❤️😭
Thank you for your sweet words!! ❤ It's easy to be dedicated since the show is so intriguing... and I am motivated to join the fandom lol
And of course I'm excited!!! 4 eps in and they've only had two scenes together !!! 😭😭
So, you have his name and his face now. The next episode is going to have more!
It's so exciting to watch this with you and your board is as amazing as your sleuthing.
So, on how ascension works. If you do something great (not good or evil, just something great) the universe makes you a god. No one personally makes you a god but yourself. As for Xie Lian and the Emperor, the Emperor didn't make him a god, he just knew that Xie Lian is going to ascend and wanted to take a look at him.
A god can take you as their assistant, but that doesn't make you a god, that just gives you more time to figure it out yourself.
That's actually why i find Pei Xiu so fascinating. He never was a deputy, Pei Ming didn't give him anything, he just ascended himself at the age of twenty and they are working in more of a partnership (older relative-younger relative) than master-servant status. That kinda amazes me
A clarification I apparently sorely needed---thank you! And the extra Pei Xui lore too! That's really interesting
Girl your sense of humor is hilarious 😂 I’m here for it
@5:35 I CANNOT
🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐
*throws phone at the wall*
About the bandages, fun fact. In the books, he takes off his bandages in like Chapter 2 briefly, so you know the answer to what that’s all about. I actually like that in the donghua they decided to hide these, it makes it more mysterious and they don’t talk about it right away. It will be hinted at sometime in the show, but you learn more about it in the books.
Also I really appreciate your discussions and theories throughout the episode. TGCF has a complex plot with complex characters, and there’s so many details to take note of. It’s not a chill watch anime 😂 I feel like a lot of people get confused and don’t like this show as much because they don’t pay attention to the world building and cultural references, so your attention to detail for this is fantastic! We all appreciate it trust me
Lmao already on episode 5 and you need a bigger board with all these intros 😂
I LOVE FENG XIN and his hot headed ass
Yeah Mu Qing is the epitome of a wet cat with all his sass
OX CART SCENE MY BELOVED! 💕
That time stamp is at such a crucial moment BUT SO VAGUE AS TO WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS help
Right! Xie Lian's bandages seem like it's just one of the many mysteries to reveal about him... but apparently the book tells you right away lol. I'll see if I can't figure it out (I think someone might have already told me this morning...).
I think I realised that this wasn't going to be a chill watch at the end of the first episode.... lol. 30 minutes of so many mysterious characters with a lot of feelings and THEN another one right at the end followed by a 5 minute backstory montage complete with music???? I felt my fingers itch... but what's the use of a corkboard if you aren't going to... well, use it?
... I really might need a bigger one no joke omg
Thanks for tuning in, this was a lovely comment!!
Also, the English dub says the four devils, but the most common translation and the one used in the books is the four calamities. The green ghost, Qi Rong, is not a devastation level ghost like the other three, he’s only a wrath, albeit a strong one. He was just grouped in with the others to make it even.
lmaoooo shoed in to make up the numbers, is he butthurt about it or just happy to be there 😂
@ Definitely butthurt 😂
you're gonna like the next episode ! also you pick up stuff really fast! this is by far my favorite episode as we get a formal introduction to our bad boy love interest! so the second episode he was revealed as "dangerous" but then again, Xuan Ji and Qi Rong (the green ghost) are also seen as dangerous. this episode though we learn that butterfly man or Hua Cheng is more than just dangerous as he is called "a headache to the heavenly realm". the book, however remarks that the heavenly officials both fear and respect him, mostly for the amount of balls this man has for just strolling into heaven, challenging 33 gods and actually winning.
white no face aka the white-clothed calamity aka Bai Wuxiang is a very important character but isn't mentioned much in s1. also Bai Wuxiang translates to White No-Face.
also, Hua Cheng's official title is Crimson Rain Sought Flower.
Hua Cheng (花城) "flower" "city" but is also translated as "city of flowers"
I have known Hua Cheng for a grand total of 5 minutes but I can already tell he has the biggest balls in the entirety of heaven, hell and the mortal realm--
Thank you for this additional info, they both fear AND respect him... I love that actually
You can never yap too much about Hua Cheng or fangirl too hard over Xie Lian. Just to be clear - the donghua will not include any openly BL scenes because Chinese censorship is stupidly strict. But the creators of the show do push every boundary and slide in every hint and ramp up all the romance elements they can get away with. We all know this is a romance from reading the books or hearing the tnfo, so we can feverishly pick out all these things and squeal like dolphins whenever there is flirting or tension or music cues.
The only way to ascend as a god is to do something extraordinary - not "good", just amazing and impossible for a normal human to achieve. If a god makes you their assistant/raises you up to Middle Heaven, then they basically are giving you a chunk of their own power so that you can be useful. This is what Xie Lian originally did for Feng Xin and Mu Qing. They later did an amazing feat on their own and properly ascended. Of course, Middle Official's have way better chances of finding and then performing amazing tasks that most humans who hope to ascend one day. The Emperor only realized Xie Lian was destined to ascend - he did not help make it happen or choose Xie Lian personally.
Thank you for these clarifications! Yeah, I kinda guessed we wouldn't see anything explicitly BL in the donghua, but I am still amazed that the books apparently are canonically so! That said, I'm used to surviving on meager subtext only in shows/movies/books---I'm sure I'll enjoy all the attempts at pushing boundaries... especially knowing what the source material is!
And I have completely misunderstood the rules of ascension, so this is a major help. THANK YOU!
I love your theories and speculations! They are so fun to listen to.
Butrerfly Man AKA the lovely Hua Cheng 花城 "Flower" "City" -This is the meaning that Xie Lian says suits him 🤭
Qi Rong 戚容 "face of sorrow"
Bai Wuxiang 白无相 "white no-face"
San Lang 三郎 as they said literally means third son. Nicknames by order of birth are common.
Also fyi you should probably avoid pictures of the calamities! Maybe get a friend to send it to you?
I was thinking of just screenshotting them, since they haven't really made appearances yet... Named characters I can easily find in episode reviews or on top of a google search... I'm being careful not to scroll too far, I promise! 😅😅
Flower City! So interesting, so pretty... I love just saying the name~
23:10 you will find out!!!! But it's a long way in coming 🤭 although you can read the books if you're really too curious 😏🤭
omg--- at this rate, I might just HAVE to---
I think I'm going to make a compilation of all your theories and how they're ripping me to pieces as a novel reader who CAN'T TELL YOU SHIT-
this is both painful and delightful to hear--- I want to know where I'm right/wrong too BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED and I've done this to myself 😭
Freaking SAME! My lips are sealed tho. Not a peep from me. Let's just watch the magic and welcome a new fan into the fold. 😊
The board updates are amazing
Oooh, you’re the first reactor I’ve seen who has wondered about Hua Cheng’s motives in challenging the gods. I think most people assume it’s just a power move.
Really?? But it's such a oddly specific number, and just the fact that he specifically challenged Mu Qing and Feng Xin??? and they all have connections to Xianle? It's so suspicious! I'm sure there's something behind it.... which I might find out.... one day *cries in 8 volumes*
@@SpacedOutPuffin Exactly! I mean, it’s possible that he challenged whoever happened to be around, but it’s still suspicious enough to be a question worth asking. But it is difficult to follow the story, especially Westerners who are not familiar with Chinese mythology and have a lot of trouble with the names. You’re doing much better than most, and I love your commentary. That doesn’t mean all your guesses are right, but they are good guesses!
@@dajtoad1 lolol I say more or less whatever comes to mind, I don't expect to be correct half the time... 😂 But I'm having a lot of fun! Thank you for your kind words ❤
bro I love your reactions so much... I literally drop everything to watch these as they come out LMAO
Just watching you composing theories, the reasoning behind them, the attention to detail... It's a joy! The reactions are gold, the extra commentary is priceless
Tee-hee... thank you for your kind words ♡
Hua Cheng in rhe next episode will answer most of your questions about his intentions ngl, especially since you're so good at picking up on details. Can't wait for your next reaction!
Say, if you decide to read the books (and since we only have two seasons for now), I wouldn't mind to check your reactions and progress, even if on Patreon and not edited or only in written form. There are so many interesting characters and arcs (minor and major) and I'm sure you will bring so many interesting thoughts and theories.
No pressure, of course, just letting you know if you ever consider something like that. These reactions are already so enjoyable, thank you so much for taking the time!
I think every step on this journey is bringing me closer to reading those books lol... if that indeed happens, I wouldn't mind sharing my reading updates--I just don't know much about how people "react" to books or film reading logs since I've never watched any such videos... I'll have to think about how to go about it, but if it's something doable for me I'll make sure it happens!
@SpacedOutPuffin I would love for you to upload you reading. I have watched a couple people doing it and I loved the feeling of rereading one of my fav books with others.
These are some of the best reactions to tgcf I’ve seen. Keep up the good work!
Wow, thank you so much!! I obviously have no comparison to make, but that means I’m doing something right? 🤩 I’ll try my best (which is easy to do when the source material is so entertaining!)
Info for your conspiracy board: the ghost kings are known like that because they reach the level devastatio level, they can destroy a kingdom.
Qi Rong - Green ghost or Night-touring green lantern, he make the forest of bodies.
He Xuan - Ship sinking black water, he is calm most of the times
Bai Wuxian - the White clothed Calamity, his name means white, no face, was killed by the heavenly emperor.
Hua Cheng - Crimson rain sought flower (Xue Yu Tan Hua, is so cute to hear it) the name is flower and city, but i think together means red or something similar (that is why Xie Lian say it suits him).
Qi Rong is actually a near-devastation ghost, but they include him to be the four demons or the four great calamities. Opposing to the four famous tales, these are 4 gods that make the more amazing things to ascend:
Xie Lian - The crown prince who pleased the gods (Tai Zi Yue Shen)
Shi Qingxuan - The young lord who poured wine
Pei Ming - The general who broke his sword
Yushi Huang - The princess who slit her throat
Aren't the 4 tales kinda a spoiler?
@@ohmydianxia313 .... oops? 🙈
@@SpacedOutPuffin it's not really that big of a deal? it's just characters of each tale revealed later in the books so I was not sure if it's a spoiler or not 😅
@@SpacedOutPuffin Calm, is not a spoiler (a little) in the books when the goods are explaining the four calamities to Xie Lian, they also explain the 4 famous tales (Xie Lian said he know about him just because he's one of them)
So is not a big deal, the donhua just ignore this information 😅 if you know or not is not a big difference but please take care against comments because you must be know the tittles but not the characters names so forget the names just like you did with Hua Cheng 🙏🏻🤣
@@lerolero8604 Thank you for the clarification!! I’ll make sure not to remember the names on this list for now then 😇😆
Second comment: Hua Cheng sometimes helped the gods in their tasks but also attack them in others, this is why Lin Wen advice Xie Lian to be careful
Again, you are so smart. Love your observations!!!!
I DIDN'T KNOW YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GAY HAHAH that's great. Loving your theories and board! May I suggest you think about the first phrase this red clothed man says? I find the idea/critic he shares regarding equality very interesting in their world. Loking foward next episode! Hope it gets easier to edit with time
I DID NOTICE IT on like the second watch but I think my brain was too overactive to remember by the time I was trying to analyze lol, I'll try and mention it in the next one!
And yes, I hope I get better at this... I'm learning new things every time I edit. I NEED to edit out things because I end up sitting in silence for like a minute at a time just thinking--- I'm not as quick witted as the video seems to show lol, I need thinking time! But I'm sure there are tips and tricks to make the process easier. Maybe I should look for a youtube course on it lol if I become famous I will pay an editor lololol
@@SpacedOutPuffin You were being hypnotized by the red man like every normal human being it's okay ahhaha I just thought you would like the observation he made!!
Oh man, hope it gets easier and faster for you somehow (I sometimes have to edit videos for college and it gets stressing lol). Tho you don't have to take out every time you think, it can maybe add to the suspense and will get you a little bit less work? In any case, I do hope you becomes famous lolol
another amazing reaction with so many smart observations! i think you're my favorite tgcf reactor, I get so excited when I see a new upload!! all your questions will be answered, but most of them in the books as the donghua only covers 2 out of 8 volumes :)) when I first watched it, I didn't do it with the intention of reading the books but as I finished the second season I found myself unable to wait for more, and made the great decision of immediately reading them, think it took me less than two weeks, I was drawn in completely!
This was my exact experience 🙌🏻
When I saw it was 3 years between season 1 and 2 I was like “nah man we’re not waiting I need answers”
Hello!! Thank you for your kind comment, happy to have you here ♡ And omg... Less than two weeks on 8 books!! You're amazing omg... or you got hit really hard with the hyper obsession hahaha...
I don't know if it's been mentioned in the comments yet, but seasons 1 and 2 currently cover book 1 and about 1/2 of book 2 (in the physical copies). Anyway, I have watched a lot of tgcf reactors but so far your theories and ways you input your thoughts have been by far my favorite. I really like the board too and I think people would agree that it is really fun and interesting.
This is such a kind comment!! I mean, I haven't watched any other tgcf reactors (obviously, that would kind of defeat the purpose 😁) but I'm glad you're liking my take on the genre! I, for one, am super happy with finding a show that lets me *think* instead of just figuring things out immediately. Thank you again for stopping by, I hope I can keep finding interesting things to talk about!
I really enjoy your focus on the plot, characters, etc. You act invested, and it is lovely to see!
Divine yoyo 😂
I laughed out loud at this
I really love ur reactions 😍😍
You are one of my favorite reactor rn. Your attention to details and theories etc. I love it. I read tgcf when it was still translated in websites no official or anything, danmei ( means Chinese BL) wasn't popular as much as today. Just about 100 chapters or something TAT TGCF isn't my favorite but still i love it a lot and i become excited as you learn more about the story.
literally blushing?? thank you so much, that means I'm doing something right huh? ❤❤ I'm trying hard to understand the story... because it's interesting AND because I'm personally interested in seeing if it will make me a fan haha.
omg, fan-translations online... only 100 chapters.... you're an OG huh.... I respect you so much hahahah
I'm glad you liked TGCF enough to want to see other people react to it! What's your favourite then?
@@SpacedOutPuffin My favorite is Mo Dao Zu Shi( it is also my first danmei ) which is the second novel written by Mo Xiang Tong Xiu the author of TGCF(tgcf is the third novel) Mo dao zu shi also has a donghua ( chinese animation ) it has 3 season and drama ( 50 episodes named The Untamed ) and it is finished. After tgcf if you have enough time and wanna continue i can recommend mdzs.
@@sukrannurtek796 THE UNTAMED---- I KNOW THIS NAME from like, tumblr or twitter years and years ago lol idk idk I remember briefly reading discourse about the two leads raising a kid and whether or not the kid is considered their son or not in the cultural setting... that's all I know about The Untamed though! A brief taster for you, in case I ever do watch this show hahahaha
Another fun non-spoilery fact - the English voice actors ship the characters and their romance. When Hua Cheng's voice actor was asked (at a fan convention) what he wanted to see from the series was "I want them to bang". The voice actor for Xie Lien worked on the English dub's script and has read the entire series.
I thought it was Hua Cheng's VA that wrote/edited the script? James Cheek? Correct me if I'm wrong tho! Maybe they both did?
@@sleepyexstnce I'd like the correct answer too, please! But in either case: that's AWESOME
8:18 Honestly, when I have seen a character who hides their neck in world of supernatural, It usually hides a deathwound or a scar from attempted/successful hanging. With wrists also hidden? It screams either suicide attempt, or torture scars.
yeah..... that's the train of thought I caught 😭😭
Welcome to the fandom, im enjoying your reaction a lot, tgcf is my favorite romance ever. If you ever react to the novels ( unfortunately the donghua does fall short even though it is wonderful) I will for sure stick around
Thank you!! I’m still taking toddler steps into all this, but it’s been enjoyable so far. You’re all very welcoming and informative!! And yes, I have the feeling that my sudden investment into this will lead me towards those books sooner rather than later lmao
@@SpacedOutPuffin if you want to check out how other ppl reacted to the novel, here are a couple channels: gaywatch, romania black and Ulysses n. Owen, they all have done it differently but it was fun
OH MY GOD ANOTHER REACTION YESSSSSS
Edit: You used my comment, wow, I am astonished
MAYBE I just wanted min yoongi in my video...... or maybe it was a useful comment! Who knows!
Subtext will exist in the donghua for sure bc the ccp restrictions but the book is so worth reading for the full and clear love story esp bc they kiss alottt
So I've been told, yeah--- but KNOWING the original intent does make interpreting the subtext a whole lot easier lol... omg harold... the boys are kissing!!
BUTTERFLY MAN TIME BUTTERFLY MAN TIME BUTTERFLY MAN TIME! :D
1:28 so i can see how you would think that bc this is basically the case for live action "BLs" as those are censored/banned in china, donghuas are too but they can usually get away with a bit more obvious gayness, but you still probably won't see any gay kisses or overt declarations of love. however, most live action dramas and donghuas that are labeled as "BL" or "bromance", like tgcf, are adaptations of novels which are explicitly gay, as writing gay webnovels is not banned (and they are pretty much all webnovels, as published books in china are also more censored... tgcf was originally published as a webnovel, but when it got popular enough to have a printed version in china, that version was edited to be more censored, although the author did her best to keep the original meaning there).
technically the tgcf donghua is censored to an extent too, you'll probably continue watching it and think it's really gay (and it is), but there are a few scenes that got censored (off the top of my head, i can only think of one that happens in season 2, I can't think of any in season 1. but i can point them out as you come across those scenes if you want! obviously don't want to say anything now bc spoilers)
11:45 when i first read tgcf i was so shocked at xiao ying's death. not the fact that she did die necessarily, but how it was treated by the narrative. it helps set the tone and lend seriousness to the gravity of the things that are happening in the story. with fantasy stories like this where you have larger than life characters and events, it can be easy to lose sight of the risks and consequences at stake in any given moment, but mxtx (the author) uses moments like xiao ying's death to bring the viewer/reader back to reality. it's so sad :(
20:19 to summarize the Four Calamities/Four Devils:
Hua Cheng (our boy!) - Devastation Rank, his Four Calamities moniker is "Crimson Rain Sought Flower"
Qi Rong - Wrath (but a very strong one), Four Calamities Moniker is Green Amor/Green Night Light Walker (or the other translations i mentioned before... but you get the point)
Black Amor - Devastation, water demon. We only know his moniker at this point, but the more common translation of it is "Black Water Sinking Ships" or just "Black Water" for short
White Calamity aka "Bai Wuxiang" - Devastation, the most terrifying of the four. actually Bai Wuxiang is also a moniker and not a proper name, it literally translates to "White No Face". he's usually referred to as that or "White-Clothed Calamity"
24:29 not confirming or denying anything to avoid spoilers, but during this scene in the novel, the narration states that "the name Hua Cheng was very obviously fake". it literally translates to "flower city" so it doesn't exactly sound like a name someone would give their child in Chinese, do with that info what you will!
31:58 spelled "Shi Wudu", the god of water and wealth
43:32 the proper name for "Mount Furnace" is "Mount Tong'lu" btw :) (seriously, i do love the dub, but some of the translation choices made for the proper names are a bit odd i'm not going to lie)
loving your reactions as always, it's so fun hearing your theories, i think when you're further along in the story you'll have a fun time looking back on it lol! on to the next episode!
user lapillity my love!! thank you for coming back, and for keep taking the time to write these and make sure I don't screw up too badly!! ♡ I'm taking notes, as per usual lol
I'd love for you to point out the "censored" scenes after I've come across them, I think it would be really interesting to know and compare!
@@SpacedOutPuffinof course! I always love when I see a new video in my subscription box when I get home from work!
will do! 🫡 I'll be sure to point out any censored scenes as we come across them!
Yesssss
Omg you are so fast 😱
Was about to go to bed but saw this while logging off😅 so I'm still here
@@Ninchennase omg, wishing you a good night's sleep and sweet dreams!!
@@SpacedOutPuffin thanks, hopefully I'll dream of Xie Lian
OMG YES IT IS 2 am but I AM NOT SLEEPING NOW❤❤❤ love you 🥰
This is not clarified in the donhua yet, but it is explained in the books already. The thing around XL's neck is a chacle symbol of his banishment and bound his spiritual power (mana in the English dub). In fact, he has two chacles, one on his neck and the other one in his right ankle.
Pretty sure it's his ankle not wrist
@marysilver5002 you're right!
Got it! So I was kinda sorta right? 😆
@SpacedOutPuffins you are so good at piecing the clues together ❤️
@SpacedOutPuffins I can't say much... but for your theories, many are correct. I can't say which one, tho.
There are a LOT of things which are hinted or mentioned from an early point but aren't revealed until much later in the story. TGCF is a long story(8 books) and the 1st season covers the entire 1st book and second season covers around 70% of the 2nd book.
I would really recommend reading the books, perhaps after you watch the season 2, because the books just have so much more detail and fun little info about the characters and the plot which can, more often than not, become important for future plot points.
We cant even say for sure if the donghua will be able to cover the whole story since tgcf is such a long story and it's BL(considering china's increasing censorship TGCF may never get the chance to be completed imo) so i'd really recommend you to read the books if you're enjoying the story
Some extra info for fun:
While the official english books are divided in 8 books for publication convenience, the original chinese version was divided into 5 books.
- The first book contained what the 1st and 2nd season of the donghua cover [book 1 and 70% book 2 of official eng release]
- The second book is a complete flashback arc which shows the story of xie lian's first ascension and how he first got banished. [End portion of book 2 and 50% book 3 in eng books]
- The third book picks up right where the 1st book left off. [rest of book 3 and book 4, 5 & 30% book 6 of eng books]
- The fourth book is again a flashback arc and continues the story of xie lian's past after his first banishment. [Remaining portion of book 6 in eng books]
- The fifth and final books picks up right where third book had left off. [Book 7 & 8 in eng book]
it seems like every step of the way to finishing this animation is leading me towards the books.... just in case, bookmarking this little book-guide lol
reading the xie lian and birth of ruoye scene in book 4: 😥😰😨😫💔💔
I must say, I much prefer (potentially maybe) HuaCheng’s voice in Mandarin. If you’ve listened to the Chinese dub, which version of his voice do you prefer? I just feel like the Chinese one sounds much younger and less “trying-too-hard-to-impress”. Like, the Chinese one is more on the cute side and the English one is more on the suave side. Not bashing on the English dub, it was still fantastic. It’s just a preference thing. But yes, how cool is the introduction to Hua Cheng, huh? Everyone’s shitting their pants, while Xie Lian’s off somewhere in his head, thinking about cute butterflies 😂
I also prefer the Mandarin VAs
It sounds less cheesy-romance-novel to me 😂
Ohhh that's hard, I like both in their own way but like you say--- they kind of feel like different interpretations of the character?? The English one is definitely more distinct, the Chinese voice actor definitely channels the carefree youth feeling more clearly... So far... I'll have both the cakes please!
Agreed. The English VA is far too obvious for my preference. He’s a great guy who’s done wonders with getting the dub done, but unfortunately I still don’t like his Hua Cheng acting. The Mandarin VA is far more in keeping with the character of HC at this point.
Hey you should write your theories down so you can look at them in the future after watching the show or reading the novel it will be great to see your reaction to how genius or stupid your theories are (btw i have just started watching your videos and i love them)
Hi, welcome!!! So glad to have you on board!
AND YES, I actually do keep them written down in my notebook (the one you see me constantly flipping through in the reactions), but the notes are one big mess lolol... maybe I should organize them better.
I imagine looking back at these once I finish the novels is going to be pretty funny
true thxxx for replying i am loving your vids hehe and i wanted to ask if there is a specific time you upload ?
@@garimachahal2046 ❤❤ At the moment, I'm afraid I don't keep a tight schedule. I work a full job, so I can only record and edit at night... so far, I've gotten episodes out 2 times a week! I'm recording tonight, so hopefully it will be up sometimes on Sunday... but I can't make any promises, I'm pretty slow with the editing!
Its really not a problem if you can't upload on Sunday you have just started making videos so take you're time
It will take time for some of the your questions to be answered. Might want to invest on the season two if you want to know certain things about Hua Cheng...
Доводилось ли вам видеть картины Омара Райана с девочками и монстрами? Вот примерно так в глазах остальных богов выглядит наша главная пара. 😉Но Мосян Тунсю так любит троп "ненадежный рассказчик", что кто знает?
Если вы хотите избежать спойлеров, рекомендую не искать картинки остальных Бедствий. Да и упомянутых богов тоже. Просто подождите, пока они появятся в сериале и скопируйте оттуда. Артов со спойлерами очень очень много.
Ваши теории чертовски хороши. Более того, даже ваши случайные шутки попали в цель, хотя в этом сезоне этого еще не раскроют. Но, когда станет ясен весь сюжет, вам будет так забавно пересматривать свои реакции.
Сцена в телеге прелестна, не правда ли?
You're completely right, that's exactly what they must look like omg... 😂😂 I'll make sure not to search up pictures of the disasters, if I print anything it's mostly screenshots from the episodes or pictures from reviews of episodes I've already watched. Now that I know this series is so long I feel like I've only just started grasping the plot lol there will be so much more happening... but I'm enjoying it so far. I want to understand as much as I can.
And yes... I loved this scene, I think I watched it 5 times...🥰
omg omg omg omg... just, HOW???? How are you getting these right???
omg which ones (just kidding don't tell me) sdjsdjljsdfkjfksd