How Linux Respects Your Privacy (And How Windows Does NOT!)
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- I often claim that Linux is better for privacy than proprietary operating systems like Windows, Mac, ChromeOS, Android, iOS, etc. Usually, I talk about the things that are hidden from view, like the spyware and keyloggers that Windows secretly uses. Today though, I'm going to talk about easy-to-see, tangible benefits of using Linux if you are concerned about privacy.
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Additionally, Windows will sometimes change your settings without your knowledge. After some patches, the privacy settings change.
Exactly, you cannot trust Windows on PCs that probably contain a lot of your personal information. Therefore you should not use it.
Really? That's just bs
I noticed this too, very annoying tbh
Linux can do that too at times as well. Just not intentionally. E.g. Linux Mint Update Manager recently had a bug that enabled automatic updates without user's doing anything. And so their apt packages started to update without the user's knowledge.
Accidents happen, and it was fixed within the same day. I'm just highlighting this because its dangerous to just blanket statement say "This doesn't happen on Linux". I've not used Windows for a good while and agree with this video, but we still need to be careful and aware about what is going on with Linux, rather than just blindly trusting everything.
@@Nikolai508 A bug is not the same as a deliberate action to steal personal data or intrude on privacy - and, with respect, how is a bug that forces automatic updates going to affect someone's privacy anyway? Sure, it may break the system in some cases, but it is not the same thing.
Quick correction: Android itself is free and open source. The different ROMs manufacturers fork from AOSP are often proprietary, but Android itself is free software.
This ^^
you can easily get a pixel, oneplus or xiaomi (hopefully in the future, nothing phone), and install a custom rom of your choice
@@drishalballaney6590 Yep, there is a lot of great FOSS roms out there, like GrapheneOS or CalyxOS. Ironically, these roms can be a reason to get a Pixel.
@@drishalballaney6590 not if your service provider encrypts your bootloader and refuses to unlock it. Super pissed at Verizon for that.
@@Bert-og9rk thank God no one in our country i.e India does that stupidity
All phones are carrier unlocked
@@knick5218 I've been seeing news about the pixels battery life which is stopped me mostly from upgrading from a OnePlus 8 to get one of those roms
I completely replaced Windows with Linux back in late 1995 and have never looked back. I actually blame MS for holding back the industry decades from what it could have been (mostly because of IE), but my bitterness aside, I'm super happy that DT is still working hard to bring people over to a better place, and having tangible results! Keep it up, dude!
I am no fan of Microsoft, I rid myself of my Microsoft abuser when support for Windows 7 ended and no longer allow their crappy products into my home or life.
But in what way have they "held back the industry"? I would argue that their "marketing speak" and lies about Windows did ultimately get PCs into every home. So I really don't understand your point here.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Look up the Microsoft antitrust cases. Time and time again they used underhanded tactics to retain their monopoly, and not have to compete based on technical merit. Without MS, open file formats would have flourished in the 90s and yet that's still an ongoing struggle, competing OSes (not just Linux, but OS/2, BeOS, even AmigaOS and MacOS) may have thrived, and JavaScript in 2000 would have had a chance to advance already to where we are today. The type of underhanded tactics used were particularly nefarious, but often too technical to be understood by most people, like having two sets of APIs for Windows, the public one, which would change behaviour between releases, and the private stable one that was used by its own products, like Office. For example, they made deals with hardware retailers making it impossible to buy a PC without also paying MS for software you weren't even going to use.
@@pdr. I don't do homework that you set me. Plus I am old enough to remember the antitrust cases very clearly, but they prove nothing that furthers the argument you are making. So let's try and stay on topic here.
You said "I actually blame MS for holding back the industry" and I said explain that point. They may have done so using nefarious means and/or as a monopoly, but that is not the argument here.
Microsoft got "a PC into every home", that we have to agree on. You're saying that Microsoft held the computer industry back, so I am saying how would that be better now then? What would have happened by now that would have been better were it not for Microsoft?
Just so you know my credentials here - I have been a techie in the computer industry for 40 years now, I started programming machine code on Z80 CPUs back in 1982. Since that time I've gone through various UNIX flavours (SCO, Solaris, HP-UX, Linux), I've even worked on DEC PDP-11s driving agent "screen pops" in some of the earliest call centres. I was also a big Amiga user back in the day too and used it to connect to the first BBSes and even used an A1200 running iBrowse back around 1993 on dial-up Internet. I've used and deployed Microsoft products from MS-DOS through to Windows 7 when I finally rid myself of their rubbish. I started using Linux back in 1997 now, Gentoo Linux is my main OS at home and I've built, administered and hardened Red Hat Linux telecoms servers for the past 2O years.
Now we've established my credentials, let's look at some computing history. Yes, it looked as though at one point that Commodore and Atari might have seized control of the home computer market but there was two much in-fighting between the two companies (Jack Tramiel) and whilst Commodore had brilliant hardware engineers working for them, they had terrible sales and marketing people - that was despite Microsoft and, quite frankly, neither company knew what it wanted to be anyway. Had Bill Gates existed without Microsoft, maybe he'd have just moved in to head Commodore and turned them into the "next Microsoft" anyway, it was the Commodore leadership that made them fail.
In the absence of Gates, in all likelihood, the next successors to the "home computer throne" might have been IBM with OS/2 because by not having to "jump into bed" with Microsoft by putting DOS and Windows on all PCs they sold, then OS/2 may have come to the forefront as the next consumer OS. Yes, it was advanced for what is was but Microsoft came out with Windows NT anyway that occupied the business IT server space for decades anyway, until most of it went Cloud. OS/2 was seen as vastly superior to MS-DOS and early Windows but NT was clearly seen as at least its equal in its early days.
I don't see that a rise of OS/2 would have been any different in terms of "one OS monopoly" and therefore Linux would have probably happened anyway.
In other words, IBM would probably have filled any vacuum created by the non-existence of Microsoft - back then, IBM was a big and lumbering computer giant, Microsoft was a lot more "quick and nimble", I think computing would have fallen behind where they are today had IBM been at the helm.
Once again, let me be clear on this - this in no way is a defence of Microsoft on my part, this is purely an investigation of where things might have been in their absence.
And I still think you're wrong - we wouldn't be as advanced as we are today without Microsoft, much as I hate to admit it.
You should take a look at Windows 97, windows improved a lot since you left.
@@pdr. I agree with most of that, except the bit about JS. It was great when it was first created and every little graft of new limbs of functionality have made it a worse language. In its current form, it should be scrapped and what replaces it should be designed from scratch for the purposes JS has been used for but better. It is my pet peeve, it is a pipe dream, but I will continue to push for it no matter the obstacles.
I've found this argument falls on deaf ears for most people. They don't care if their very operating system is phoning home with their private secrets. It's unsettling.
Sadly, this is all too true. As you say, such people won't be reached....
If you want private secrets, you don't use phone with internet...you don't use facebook and instagram...People don't care if microsoft spy on photos with dinner...or if you search porn movies on internet...not all people have secrets that the world depends on.
Litterally every electronic device is SPYING ON you even intel spies on your computer and knows every thing about your files so installing linux will not do anything to protect your privacy
Beacause this argument is kinda meh.
Poeple are telling me to use linux because they don't want spyware, then they use google on it, have android phone, or iphone, use chatgpt etc.
There is only ilusion of privacy, if you would really want that you need to plug out your internet
@@Matshiro Just because some people are idiots, it doesn't mean we all are... Your argument sounds like a weak excuse for not being responsible for your own privacy. I have a friend just like you. He shrugs his shoulders and says: "meh... what can you do? I don't have anything to hide anyway". What he means is: "I'm too lazy to do anything about it, so I've convinced myself that privacy isn't important".
Mac: pay with money
Windows: pay with yourself
Linux: pay with a promise to contribute
A lot of people don't realize ads and tracking are payment, and they assume certain products are free. Well you're free if you (might) contribute! That's what FOSS is.
Windows: You pay A LOT, and then they abuse you
Linux: You pay NOTHING, maybe donate a couple of bucks if you want to or if you enjoy it and have know-how contribute with code or something else but 90% of Linux users don't do any of those things and have infinitely better experience
Windows has you pay with both money and data
@@petarradojevic7619 Hej! Ovo je drugi put što nalazim Srbina na Internetu. Gde su bre? Grci se vide iz daleka, ali nemogu naći Srbina. Grk sam, verovatno se vidi da nisam veoma dobar sa Srpskim. Pa i ja sam među tim 90% ali stiže vreme da napravim i ja nešto. Imam dve tri stvari na planu. Tako "plati ću".
"Do you want candy crush ads in you OS" had me rolling...
"You need Gmail account, if you want to activate your phone"
*Laughs in LineageOS*
I was running Fedora since 2008 and then Arch since 2012 on my laptop but I was sticking to Windows on my workstation, but with Windows 11 I just couldn't take that level of intrusion anymore, I made the switch to Arch on my workstation and it's almost perfect, I can say with full confidence that I made absolutely no compromises to my workflow. Shortly afterwards, I ditched Arch on my personal laptop for OpenBSD precisely because of its privacy and security focus; it's more oriented towards server implementations but it also shines as a dedicated internet browsing OS on a separate physical machine. From the outside and once you're fully accustomed to it, it's nearly indistinguishable from something like Gentoo or Slackware.
Linux respecting privacy is one of the best aspect of it.
And it is the only thing linux is doing better than other OSes 😂
Unfortunately not all of them
Talking from experience, linux improves productivity too
how?
@@losimyuser it depends on what you use your machine for but for I created shell script to automate simple tasks
Privacy is one of the reasons why I switched to Linux
Same here, I'm in since March this year and I got pretty surprised how well it is running. (Garuda Linux dr460nforced Edition KDE)
@@BruceCarbonLakeriver I love their zen kernel
@@plutorocks1 me too :D
Thank you for making videos like these! Privacy concerns have become such a real problem as we have increased our usage of the internet. Its scary how much data corporations collect on their users. It was really eye opening for me when Microsoft decided to make it mandatory to have a Microsoft account in order to use Windows. Your operating system should never have to be tied to the internet in order to work. When I learned of the mandatory online accounts with Windows 11 I decided it was time to give Linux a try. I've been using GNU/Linux for about 3 months now and I've had a fantastic experience. I don't ever plan on moving back to Windows. Fun fact I was doing some research and it turns out Windows 10 sends telemetry data to over 10,000 Microsoft APIs. That is down right scary.
Don’t trust Linux either
@@ghost-user559 Why not?
@@LamaSlayer4622 Every time I try to reply to this subject it doesn’t post. But look up who funds the kernel, and look up the Enn Ess A exploits that were added to the kernel and which persisted for a decade before being discovered.
I'm 100% a Gentoo Linux user and I run it on "any old cr*p" when it comes to computing devices - the only hardware that I buy new is storage and I gave up on AAA games about 10 years ago because I am not participating in "games as a service" for overpriced, buggy, derivative and DLC-ridden crap being churned out by games companies - I therefore don't buy many graphics cards either.
One thing I have noticed recently on eBay is the prevalence of really cheap 4GB DDR3 and DDR4 memory DIMMs and SODIMMs being sold by many, many people. This is at the time when "normies" are being encouraged (forced?) to upgrade to Windows 11.
As most PCs have two memory slots in them, the assumption therefore is that even 8GB RAM is now not enough for a Windows PC - hence people selling old 4GB modules to upgrade them to 8GB (or bigger) ones. Windows "experts" that I have spoken to have told me 16GB RAM is the practical minimum RAM on a Windows PC now if you then take into account games and heavier applications running on top of it.
By comparison, even the heaviest Linux OS probably only ever demands around 1.5GB RAM before you start running anything else, an extremely light desktop that still has a few network services running in background can run in about 200MB.
If a Windows OS needs that much RAM even before you do anything else with it, then there is some "spooky sh1t" going on in the background in terms of rifling through the contents of your PC and reporting it all back to Microsoft.
Note also that the "success" of Windows Defender as a malware defence tool on WIndows is specifically down to "the Microsoft hive mind". That application is in constant communication with Microsoft Central sending file signatures back and forth in order to build up malware databases extremely quickly. Ultimately, Windows Defender is a case of "the more it does for your security, the less it does for your privacy" as it gives itself full access to all of the files on your computer.
Normies really should be taking more notice of this nonsense.
This comment is platinum. Absolutely true.
Great video, I switched to Linux around a year ago and distro hopped quite a bit until I landed on Arch Linux. Just until a month ago I was using arch Linux, but I decided to switch to NixOS. It works very well with my relatively new hardware (AMD RX 6500 XT) and I really have not had many problems other than with proprietary applications not working very well with pipewire screen sharing.
@Just-a-Femboy:
If you’re working with a AMD Radeon graphics-card you’re not gonna have any problems in Linux with the graphics-card because AMD (at-least currently) works with the Linux-kernel developers to implement the drivers of the AMD Radeon graphics-cards into the Linux kernel.
Also:
Regarding the proprietary applications:
I dunno what are the particular proprietary-applications that you are trying to use inside Linux but here’s a piece of advice:
I’ve noticed that alot of people are expecting that a piece-of-software that was *not* written for Linux to work perfectly/a-ok/👌 in Linux and it just doesn’t work that way.
Same as how I cannot expect the “Oregon Trail” computer-game that I used in the “Power Mac” computers in the computer-lab in my Elementary school to work in the “AST Advantage!” tower-computer that has Windows-95 in it that I have back at home.
The software needs to be written for Microsoft Windows, Linux, and/or Macintosh-OS, respectively, in order for it to work in Windows, Linux, and/or Macintosh-OS respectively.
@Dustter i apologize 🥺 but i’m having trouble figuring-out *which*-exactly is the particular-segment of my message that you-are-referring-to-as “the last segment” 🥺😣☹️🥺.
It's not that Microsoft doesn't want you to encrypt your drive. They just want you to encrypt it with BitLocker which has a backdoor that they can access at any time lol
Can you give more information about this? Bitlocker does not have known backdoors and it's been audited all the time.
In most Android implementations you can skip signing in with Google account. you don't have access to play store then, it will keep you reminding to do so and stuff, but you certainly don't need the account.
Thank god I found this comment. I thought I was insane for a moment when DT said that.
When I got a new phone I'm pretty sure I did a factory reset on the old one and put F-droid and Aurora Store on it.
I just responded to this in detail but YT deleted the comment. You are still tracked, even if you don't sign in with a Google account. Only a de-Googled phone with no Google Play Services on it will stop the tracking. You are fooling yourself if you believe otherwise - Google Play Services gives Google the phone number, IMEI number and your location to within 2 metres using wifi triangulation. It also gives them your relationship to others through your contacts, and others that have your phone number in their Google contacts will give them your name and number.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Oh I'm very aware. I'm only focused on the statement of needing an account being wrong. I said nothing regarding the tracking.
Calm down privacy zealot.
@@sudoshindo I don't take orders from strangers on the Internet. You made a confusing and incorrect statement, I corrected you. If you can't handle being told you are wrong in a public place then don't comment in the first place - or do proper research first.
Now run along, sonny, I don't debate self-entitled brats.
Discussion closed.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Impressive deflection
Privacy and the ongoing issues with updates breaking things finally drove me away from Windows.
when installing windows you install windows...
do you want location tracking: no
do you want to give us your speech activity: no
do you want to give us your browser history: no
do you want search tracking: no*
do you want to give us the app activity: no*
do you want media tracking: no
do you want to have performance statistics per app active: no
since you have connected your ethernet cable, we will force you to sign up for outlook.
pc reboots 3 times, you are done with the setup and microsoft already has your name
LOL and they still keep mining your information and scanning your computer and giving permission to the Apps that you have on your PC to scan your files. It doesn't matter if you toggle them off, they still keep your info without you even knowing. Its in the 30 page agreement, that nobody has time to read.
And you have no way of knowing if they honour those preferences. I've also heard horror stories about updates changing them back to yes
Hey DT, I was just abit curious to what you meant with the encryption part because you can enable Bitlocker on Windows right?
Also that's just for windows pro
Hey encryption is hard work, you can't expect Microsoft to just *give* it away at no extra cost... I mean, who's going to account for all the research and development that went into making BitLocker, hmmm??? /s
It's sthe basis of encryption security that the source-code must be open and well-documented, so you can pass through resistence tests made from cryptoanalists amd guarantee it can't be cracked from people with bad intentions, any encryption alghoritm that is closed-source is a vulnerable alghoritm. BitLocker is closed-source, proprietary and not documented, wich already makes it unsafe.
I will take "Computer Networking" by Tanenbaum as a source for this
A good alternative for Windows users to encrypt their drive is VeraCrypt, it works in the NT Kernel levels and allows you to decrypt your drive from boot, it's also FOSS
Hey DT,
Would you make a video about TPM2 and why this is actually a big problem? I've watched a pretty neat presentation on one of those "nerd conventions" and there was an ex google dev who explained how there is actually a whole minix OS running within our CPUs (of course he could proof it). That'd be a great topic in terms of privacy and the issues also coming from the hardware!
I pretty much like Linux and since it got even more closer to Windows in terms of software compatibility I can now daily drive it and killt my win10.
Win11 is literally the end for me and Microsoft and TPM2 and this stuff is getting scary. I deactivated it via BIOS but in the end there is a BIOS which tells me it is off .. with Win11 you need to have it activated to boot that OS .. Gee!
You're not wrong or alone. We the people need to demand open source software and hardware. People are just mostly complacent and or lazy. They won't change until a crisis happens and then it's too late.
How about you just LEARN AND USE Open Source software rather than demanding it. Sometimes stuff only happens if you take direct positive action and isn't "delivered into your lap" just because you sit there and demand it.
Linux takes time and effort to learn to use it - the rewards are later on when you get familiar with it. That's down to you, nobody's going to do that for you.
@Dustter See? You're demanding someone else do everything for you again. You're just proving my original point for me, you seem to ooze self-entitlement.
The thing is, I don't do "homework" that strangers on the Internet set for me and you can do your own research to find stuff as much as I can do it to find stuff that I want.
Good luck in solving your mouse problem!
@@terrydaktyllus1320 bro, has your brain been replaced by cyanide?
2+ years into linux only, I don't regret
I'm new on Linux and recently found your channel. Nice video, man. Greetings from 🇧🇷.
This is one of the best Linux channels out there, You are in good company.
@@astroid-ws4py Amen to that!
Ubuntu has sponsors which do care about analytics on who connected their accounts.
Just don't use ubuntu duh
As always writing a comment to support the channel
4:00 This was one of the reasons I (used to) recommend Ubuntu to a lot of newcomers: If you don't want to futz around with your PC - which is your prerogative, maybe you're a busy person and can't spare the time to set-up a perfect kernel for your specific hardware, that's fair - then a "standard" Linux installation will probably leave you with a machine that can do internet, office, email and printing out-of-the-box, and that's a really compelling argument nowadays where even casual users of Windows trip over so many, stupid, little road blocks.
Point in case: My grandma (god love her) kept breaking her macbooks by dropping them or whatever, and it started to wear on her budget (she _could_ afford it, but it was a bit of a drag, y'know, "dang, I'd rather break something not-so-expensive" kinda thing) so with 82, I set her up with a cheap Ubuntu laptop, and since all she did on it was read or watch the news, email her friends and family, and play solitaire, she had hardly any problems (apart from the usual "where's the safari?" - "No, grandma, click the firefox logo down there" - "I just want the New York Post back!" - "Ok wait a sec, I'll change the icon and name for you…🙄", y'know, the same old people problems she had switching from one macOS version to the next xD)
Good sentence : you 're not the user, you 're the used
Should make this as a best Linux video on UA-cam.
Nice video DT.
Well, I find some exaggeration here.
Don't get me wrong, I am a power linux user and I don't respect policy of evil corporations.
But it seems to me that dt either forgets many details or he is trying to exaggerate.
1. Privacy settings are everywhere
2. Linux is not 100% good and clean, especially in some main stream distros.
3. MacOS and windows allow to encrypt drives.
4. Not that much of trial ware.
Yes, windows and macOS provide a lot of junk that I cannot even deleted but they do not force me to buy more than os for comfortable use.
5. There are telemetry settings in macOS and windows(at the install screen and in the settings).
The reason why I am still user of all OSes - compatibility of windows software and the power of MacBook hardware.
But a couple of days ago, I spent over 40 hours to set up linux gaming - I was amazed... not native games were running as I would never see on windows.
So what about cell phones? I use linux, but i have an android phone. Theres not really a good private phone. And yes I know about pine phone.
There are FOSS privacy respecting versions of Android available, but they really don't come preinstalled on many phones. Usually you would need to buy a phone that has the bootloader unlocked and install one of these FOSS privacy respecting Android distros yourself. LineageOS, CalyxOS, and GrapheneOS are three great examples of privacy respecting Android distros.
Privacy is one of the Linux's pillars, I'm a Ubuntu rostro user recently this year, struggling a bit with some crashing with Ubuntu, however, I'm learning a lot
I have had very bad luck with Ubuntu in the last year or two... Fedora is absolutely rock solid whilst still having up-to-date packages, I would suggest that you try it out if you are having issues with Ubuntu. Good Luck! :)
Privacy is NOT a Linux pillar. Our minds have been so affected by all this monitoring that we think that lack of privacy is normal, and something that gives you privacy is a feature. Damn no! It's not.
@@98SE
How about Linux Mint?
@@russellmania5349 I love Linux Mint but it doesn't support Wayland, I have 2 monitors that have different refresh rates (165Hz + 72Hz) so Wayland is a must, I switch between Gnome and KDE Plasma at the moment but neither of them are even as stable as Windows 7... I know they are community created and maintained so I can't complain, I just wish i had the skills to help out with KDE development. I am learning the C Programming Language so maybe I'll be able to help out one day. :)
That's the reason i use arch, btw
Thought I was subscribed but turns out UA-cam was showing me your videos just because I was binging them lol. Subscribed now.
Ok the encryption point is poorly presented and doesn't reflect the security model the encryption intends to uphold.
Assuming he's referring to full disk encryption at the install stage, doesn't Windows still have BitLocker and Apple have FileVault? Also, full disk encryption only protects you when the computer is powered off. If you've logged in - and can see all your content - then any developer with some spyware will be able toe see the same thing, because the encrypted volume - the whole disk - is unlocked.
What DT is referring to where you could protect data while the computer in use would be encrypted containers and/or disk images. Again, pretty sure that's a provided feature of MacOS (don't know about Windows).
A better argument here would have been that you can feel more confident that the open source encryption doesn't have any back doors, which can't be verified with proprietary software.
Was this written before the gnome telemetry announcement?
Have most of the distroes discontinued their advertising revenue steams? I know Ubuntu used to make money on ads in their dash search and I am pretty sure before that they were getting paid my someone to bundle specific browsers with specific search engines preinstalled?
@Buried Unkind And now Ubuntu has ads in the terminal. Do you have to install `apt`?
Somebody: Don't use product which spy on you.
Windows: Okay, let's make our users as our product.
Remember "You're the product." They sell your data.
What about your phone? lol
@@STONE69_ That's what I'm saying. You can hide yourself from anything in this world.
i need win 10 to play my bethesda games:(
Okay, I do largely agree with you, but:
- macOS doesn’t require an account to set up (although it does “recommend” one)
- macOS also does disk encryption by default now
- macOS has similar toggles for disabling bug reports and data collection
Not saying Apple is free of blame in all regards to privacy. Just pointing out a couple of the things they also do “well” that you mention Linux doing.
Very nice, very important, thank you very much ❤️
At least Windows does not put ADs in the terminal 🤣😂🤣
Yet
Hey DT, FOSS is great 😃, you inspired me to switch to Linux.
Best arguments: You don't need to login to an account in order to download apps, you go to the store and, just download it, for free, simple as that.
I'd like to make a small correction, most proprietary software doesn't hide what info they're taking from you. It's right there in one EULA or another. Make no mistake, if you want to know what data MS is taking from your computer, you can get a pretty good idea. Same for Google, Apple etc.
You say that, but you also have to account for them skirting the lines, hiding information tracking that is not included in the EULA, and them working on behalf of the government.
Another issue with Microsoft Accounts is that, as I understand it, Microsoft stores the BIOS key (?) to your computer on their server, which means that if you're locked out of your computer, you have to ask Microsoft for permission to use your computer. Their software is locking down your computer so that you can only install Microsoft approved software on it, so it's not just privacy in terms of keyloggers and spyware.
You do NOT need a Google/Gmail account in order to use Android, you just won't be able to use their store but not to worry you can still install third party stores. On Crapple however its a different story, you could technically get away without having a crapple account however you won't be able to download and install apps (without jailbreaking).
Well Windoze and Mac have both supported drive encryption for a long time now, however that doesn't stop the OS from accessing the drive. It's only intended to stop others from accessing your data. Interestingly, I installed Win 10 in a VM recently and while it did let me set it up without an account, I had to click some weird link like "Limited Experience" in order to do so. Also it was nagging me when I turned off some of the tracking settings like "oh that won't really reduce the number of ads, they just won't be targeted at you"
I'm a long time Windows user, recently converted to GNU/Linux, and I must admit I should have quit Windows a long time ago.
The more people will understand why they should reject Windows, the more exciting and respectful the IT will be.
Amen, Brother! Keep preaching this, whether or not the haters listen!
You might not like the candy-crush ads, but what about Hostess Zinger ads? Yeah, that's what I thought! ;-)
I wish you would touch on "hacked" Windows builds. I have some friends who would dismiss everything you just said with "well I use windows 10 ameliorated (or similar), it has all spyware and bloatware ripped out, I have full privacy". For me the biggest concern is the security of these builds and tools. You have to trust the iso or tool to not have shady Russian malware of its own included, and common changes can be dangerous for your security (such as disabling Windows Update or Windows Defender). It's hard to get across how important security updates can be and how using these hacks is not a good option if you care at all about security and privacy from hackers.
I don't trust them, every single time they get mentioned it's a different name and they spread through comment sections and replies on sites with little to no moderation, just like crypto scams and malware, apparently there's more custom windows isos out there than linux distros lol. Also if you have debloated windows yourself before you just know how inviable it is for the longevity of your system so the features they claim are suspicious. Even MS has always warned about custom ISOs since the XP days, long before telemetry was even in their mind. I can guarantee you that most of them are just malware.
Well, if people are stupid enough to download from unknown or shady sources, than thats on them for their sheer stupidity. That also includes games, Apps etc
I use "The Pizza Argument" when friends or colleagues suggest the same thing to me.
I don't like olives. So when I call the pizza restaurant to deliver me a pizza I tell them "please leave off the olives". What I don't do is say nothing, wait until the pizza is delivered and then pick off the olives one-by-one to the make the pizza edible for me.
The pizza argument applies to installing an OS you know to be untrustworthy and then fiddling around with it afterwards to try and get some trust in it.
The fact is that you just need to look on eBay to see the huge numbers of 4GB DDR3 and DDR4 RAM modules being sold on there. The reason for that is that most computers today have two RAM slots and therefore, at a time when Windows 11 is being rolled out, many people have decided that 8GB of RAM is not longer enough RAM for Windows 11 - hence they're upgrading their memory to 16GB (or more) and selling off the old stuff (which is great for me who runs Gentoo Linux on "any old cr*p" PCs and buys most of his hardware used - but I digress).
If 8GB RAM is no longer enough RAM for a base operating system, before you consider running any other applications on top of it, then that OS is doing some VERY NEFARIOUS stuff in the background to need such resources in the first place - presumably telemetry and "phoning home" a lot.
Your friends are fools - when everyone stores so much personal information on their computers, you MUST be able to trust the operating system on that computer. By their own admission, your friends don't trust Windows unless they continually spend large amounts of time fighting against its telemetry, and continually having to do so because every time Windows updates, it can choose to revert settings back.
Plus, as the other commenter here has already said, they will download hacked copies of Windows too.
All this wasted time and effort could be put to far better use just installing and learning Linux, an OS you cant trust from the moment you start running it.
Great points man.
Man, I just switched to windows the other day, and holy sh*t the productivity is above the charts!
No bugs, no configuring, no tinkering, no sudden shit happen. I know I will get a lot of angry people, but seriously, I have been using Linux for 8 months, and shit always happen at the worst times, like why I can't just do my shit? I have ton of things I need to get done, and you know when something breaks it just really plummets your motivation somehow even after you fix it. It was exciting the first few months but after that it became a burden and pain in the ass to just google every little shit happen. And after all these months you might say oh how strange, you should be comfortable and be able to fix your own shit, yeah, actually no. ahem Dunning-Kruger effect, look it up. You won't, you will always encounter shit that are out of your control and expertise. I liked the terminal and bash, but that's it, I don't have a very old PC so I don't really benefit in the performance domain of Linux, This is just my own experience and OPINION.
For the privacy, read Microsoft's privacy statement and then you can complain, even then it's a personal preference, honestly, google, facebook, twitter all invade your privacy much more than windows, it doesn't change the fact that you started using Linux, you are still a google's slave, and you still use android. I mean, unless you are abandoning all the internet then yeah.
Well Said, one reason why I ditched Windows and learning Linux is so fun and challenging in the same time. I did great by compiling videos on YT for what I want to do such customizing my Linux Machine Desktop, Partitioning, Gaming and other uses such as researches and what not. I love Linux more than Windows and still new to Linux a little over a month now and all I can say I wish I used Linux 25yrs ago instead of Windows hahaha. I even drove my wife into Linux rebuilding 5 other PCs in our home upgrading the HD to SSD including the Graphics Cards for a fresh Linux OS installs.
I know many of you guys gonna trash me in the comments... Why would anyone do that on someone pointing out obvious and for decade or more now known, WELL KNOWN facts. Only ignorant people would have something to say and I don't think that your audience is nowhere near that. Good content DT, I always respect your things cause I finally know someone that shares the same opinions with me on 99% of the facts...
In fact I turn on as much telemetry and Data sending in Linux as possible. A) because I can see every line of what it does and sends, and I have full control over it. B) because this way I can contribute to the devs for free 🙏
And this Linux "telemetry" is where, precisely? Do you mean the latest versions of Audacity that caused an absolute stink in the Linux community?
@@terrydaktyllus1320 No, the telemetry which you can activate for example in Ubuntu 22.04LTS GNOME during the first steps setup after the installation
@@ArniesTech You do realise that there are other distros that don't have that telemetry, don't you?
Do you mean to tell me that you turn on the telemetry and sit there constantly watching that every access that Ubuntu makes to your personal information on your computer is to data that you approve them having?
Have you not considered that maybe a better way to contribute to the community is just turn the telemetry off and make a charitable donation or two? Or help others learning Linux? Or help some application developers test their software?
I cannot believe people are happy to let third parties just have unfettered access to their personal information. Ridiculous!
@@terrydaktyllus1320 If you take a look at my channel you'll see that I do teach Linux to others. Also, part of our freedom in FOSS is that I can choose what I consider sufficient contribution, and yes I do consider telemetry a sufficient contribution.
@@ArniesTech We've spoken before, I don't think there's anything your channel could teach me, if the comments I see you write on YT are anything to go by. You have some "strange" views on Linux.
I got rid of Windows 10 for privacy reasons by switching to Linux. The chapter is not over yet they be still spying you from BIOS administration XD
DT throwing shade at Google on UA-cam.
Hey DT, new sub here & I love your videos. What phone are you using? Thanks!
Yes! Linux doesn't force use to an antivirus program because it doesn't need. ♥️
Yet. As Linux becomes more popular, antivirus will be needed.
@@sarthalion not really. The small market share is one of the reasons viruses aren't made for Linux, but it's only one reason. Linux is much more secure by nature. Apps don't get root access by default and software is installed from repositories, not the internet. The best place to make viruses for Linux would probably be the AUR but I don't think there's many other places where you could put malware without it getting noticed.
@@juusomaenpaa7236 Well, actually Linux is not more secure. Windows (10, 11) has much more security migitations in place that generally Linux does not implement and in many cases implemented ones are not enabled in the kernel. OpenBSD has pretty much every known migitation implemented and enabled and Windows is pretty close too. Gone are also the days when everyone ran Windows as "root". By default UAC is enabled and it does pretty good job nowadays.
It's hard to compromize Windows without user interaction. Propably harder than Linux. Of course your point about software installation are true and most of the time repository way is more secure.
Most malware is spread by email or via browsers (ads, javascript) and when Linux popularity in consumer machines rise we will see more malware for Linux for sure.
Note that when I talk about security, I don't mean privacy. They are too different things.
Widows, Mac OS, Android and iOS have all had built in encryption for a decade at this point.
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This hits home with many people! Love this video!
Thanks for sharing your tech experience, Win 10 edu is an awesome operating system when you set the MS telemetry correctly. Thanks again, you have helped me move 2 of my machines to Linux exclusively and by 2025 they all should be migrated.
Yeah at the moment I cant really switch my laptop or PC over to Linux becuase I play games on them that use anti-cheat, and I need windows for other stuff that doesnt run under proton, but once the anti-cheat issue is solved I will migrate my main PC's over to Linux (Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 2 & My Windows 10 Machine)
I would dual boot but at the moment its not really feasable to dual-boot when I could just have one operating system that does everything... I run Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019 (Version 1809, Build 17763) on my Laptop and PC with all of the privacy settings setup correctly and Admin password required every time I need to use UAC.
I am coming up to my first year of using Linux as my primary machine (Fedora) and I would say of the big benefits is having an update of all the apps as well as the OS. In Windows one has to update each individual app.
Thanks for sharing. Keep up the good work.
Hey DT!
Hey hey! :D
hey, DT, can you do a video about linux? I'm curious about that operating system:)
I'm with you DT regarding how Windows is trash
I don't know abour Apple OSes but you can skip the account sign in in Windows and Android (some functionalities will be disabled though).
Good points anyway.
I started dabbling on Linux last October, on a couple of old laptops that were given to me, and now wonder why I didn't try it much sooner. The laptops both ran Windows 8 and the previous owner had forgotten the password for one, and shy of a seance wasn't getting the password for the other, so since I didn't want to spend the money for Windows 10 and they were free laptops, i figured why not try something different
E. g. Linux Mint download and the forums were hacked-very professional!
Absolutely right, and even after switching to linux you still are not protected from spying and tracking, PSP and Intel ME still a thing, i would drill that processor out if i could
@Zaydan Naufal in my country fully free hardware is too expensive, importing is not a option since the gov taxes are too high
@Zaydan Naufal I live in Brazil, they tax 60% of the value of the item here if you try to import something, small things can go past without issue but big boxes are sure to be taxed
AOSP (Android Open Source Project) based ROMs w/o Google services FTW!
`Win + Pause` in a Windows installation says enough to win that argument.
How is a new user going to know that without looking it up? As these workarounds get more popular you can bet Microsoft are looking for ways to patch them out
Minor corrections DT:
In Android a Google account is not mandatory, Android is a FOSS product (AOSP) but phone makers like Google, xaomi makes it in such way that you need an account to finish the set-up, i use a lineage OS phone and i don't have any Google services.
In windows 10 account is not required but still it tracks you (maybe with an unique identifier IDK).
Correction for your corrections: Newer versions of Windows 10 require an MS account
I am testing a week on Linux Mint Cinnamon if Windows isn't gonna respect privacy laws it's time to switch to Linux let the Linux Empire begin!!!!!
There is a privacy protection law but the big companies gives a shit. They do whatever they want. Not good at all. Linux is the future if you want to own your computer, software and files.
Run task manager in Windows, and pick a random running task and do a Google search on its name and the top results will almost always be "High CPU". Does every single internal Windows process have randomly occurring infinite loops? Seems pretty suspicious that it happens so often, but never to two or more things at the same time. You be the judge.
When an OS like Windows 10 needs a minimum of 8GB RAM to run efficiently before you run anything else on it, then that should be your warning sign - a base OS needing that much of a memory footprint has some SERIOUS telemetry going on in the background.
Still, it makes me happy - as someone who runs Linux on "any old cr*p" used hardware, I am loving all of the cheap 4GB DDR3 and DDR4 memory modules that I can buy on eBay these days. This is of course due to those foolish people with PCs or laptops with only two memory slots having to upgrade their memory to 16GB to run Windows 11 and therefore having to sell the old modules.
Some things are wrong on your statements but still great to hear.
you can encrypt windows though. i don't understand why this was used as an argument. There is bitlocker in windows pro, or you can use software like veracrypt which is FOSS
Quick correction: u don't get ads in windows start menu actually I never encountered ads from windows specific stuff
There was the issue with Ubuntu serving up Amazon ads. Thankfully they stopped doing that.
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Another great video, DT!
You are first to say "first" but does that count? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@DistroTube Sure it does, at least it is an achievement :D
@@DistroTube Greetings from Singapore.
I did try the cinnamon version for a very short periode of time before reverting back to windows. But question is. I am considering to go back to cinnamon version with my old thinkpad t430i is it really complicated? that much for people who are most of their life used to windows by complicated i mean with basic things in general like browsing the internet going on fb youtube checking e mails editing some pictures videos doing cloud based stuff
there are iphones and android phones, which kind of phone do you propose DT ?
I wish I would've know about virtual machines and linux years ago. Its the best thing, especially when using a VPN on your host machine.
Linux is also dead easy to keep up-to-date, including all my apps. Everything I need is available through the repositories. My last Windows was 7 and I've never looked back.
You are not required to log in with Microsoft/Gmail accounts on Windows/Android. They try really hard to make you believe you absolutely need to though. But nonetheless, you can use both systems without logging in perfectly fine. I'm not saying that'll stop Microsoft and Google from spying on you, but still. Saying that they "force you to do it" is simply not true.
Windows used to be less shitty.
Android phones do require a Gmail account but you can bypass the Windows request to create a MS email. Agree this Android account requirement is BS.
Great workkkk 🥳 Thank you 💜
6:52 onward...yeah but you take not only a performance hit, but restoring either vis Timeshift or especially a system image backup/cloning solution like Foxclone..can end up being a nightmare.
not worth it imo
200K coming soon. Nice :)
Android is based on Linux too, and it isn't made hard to skip the Google login process and to use an alternative appstore
I've watched all your videos about privacy and security and I so frustrated being locked into Windows because I'm forced to use the Adobe Suite to work with colleagues. I'm really wondering what Adobe Microsoft and Apple have as a deal to hold back users... Does anyone really want Adobe on Linux ?
Yes,but to avoid malware you can use a virtual machine for winblows.
Wonderful video! Can I translate it or record my own one based on yours?
Hey DT,
Have you looked at searx? Will you do a video on it?
There are some things you said that is not a difference between linux and windows. Problem is that you did not use windows for a very long time and it is hard to criticised something you dont know enough of it. Yes, linux is way better than windows with privacy and a lot of others things. I use garuda btw.
After installing Linux, will everything on the laptop continue to work, or will we have to install each driver for each device like the touchpad, networking module etc manually?
Drivers pretty much auto update in the kernel. All hardware attached to your computer is usually auto detected by operating system and updated as needed.
@Buried Unkind whats a live distro?
@Buried Unkind oh! That's neat! Alritey, will do. Thanks!
2:28 If you want to avoid this, you don't give internet access during Windows installation. I had to install Windows on my grandmother's laptop, she doesn't have Microsoft account. It was the only way I came to.
Also if you want to pay as less as possible to Microsoft (or you are forced to use Windows because an app is not supported on Linux) install Windows 10 Home N. It has nothing pre-installed, no banner will appear if you don't activate this version.
The reason why there is resistance is because these users, that's all they know so they defend big shady corporations.
Ubuntu isn't a good example, but great video either way
Like it or not, Ubuntu is the most used distro, and will have a lot of software available
Why else would you need an "account" to use these otherOS's?