@mtg_muddstah Am I correct in assuming that we won't be getting an Umbris decklist from Max? I know someone else in the comments asked about it. If not, that is totally fine, just wanting to know for sure.
Well dang top comment was a spoiler and before you tell dont go in the comments before the vid im on mobile and in the vertical screen the top comment always shows dureing ads
I had a sefris deck. I didnt even make it that good, in the sense that I didnt include the most terrifying things to reanimate, ie elish norn, either jin etc. The commander is disgusting especially with the new dungeon. I added in the new cards, played 5 games, and each game around turn 10, I just kept accidentally going infinite with dungeons. She is straight terrifying as well since the only way to deal with her is farewell. literally anything else and all you do is buy 1-2 turns.
I built Barrowin for Orzhov Dungeons, it's a ton of fun and very flavorful with all of the DnD art. Give full dungeons a try! It's a mechanic that isn't going to steamroll the game but, due to it being lower power, won't draw you as much hate.
This why I took apart Meren for Mazirek (seeing Maz on your channel). Gets out of hand so quickly and is just a super fun commander that takes advantage of what most people do already. Saccing treasures, fetches…with token doublers? Also lots of combos that are pretty easy to pull off. Thank you for showing what other decks can do and enabling my cardboard crack addiction ❤️
8:30 when Nick flickers Nadar and ventures into Mad Mage and chooses the room to prevent Umbris from attacking until NICK'S next turn, he did so during Max's turn. Which means on Max's next turn he could have attacked with Umbris because Nick's turn had passed directly after. :o
Awesome game! I actually turned my Phenax/Mirko-vosk deck into an Umbriss deck. (less emphasis on horrors though). Just a lot of milling, then exiling the yards and them go in for the kill for commander damage.
Seems like a really value and open enough design. A lot of space for a lot of strategies. Andrew trashed us a couple pf times with it and it seemed fair on each occasion.
I went blue white tokens. Just something different then what everyone else does. I like when my pilots turn into more pilots then into angels with plus 1 plus 1 and vigilance...
Honestly, I like when mistakes are overlooked in editing. It reminds people that great content isn't always perfect, but that doesn't make it any less watchable
I can confirm Nadaar can do tje thing multiple times in a game and just get so much value. I also built Him recently, with a paladin subtheme and was a blast to play, despite me not winning any game with it.
I feel like every time I see Ziatora, it's just the replacement for Korvald after someone's playgroup complained he was too strong. I think it's a shame, I'd like to see a list where she gets to be herself with big flings or something
@@danpasquale1620 that's interesting but the RC usually bans cards that either warp the meta or lead to oppressive play patterns. AFAIK Shorikai doesn't lend itself to either, unlike Hullbreacher or Leovold. I'm still waiting for Tergrid to be banned but in the meantime I'll just alpha strike the Tergrid player every time.
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Would it be possible to post the link to the Umbris decklist? I really enjoyed the game and would love to try out Max's deck?
@mtg_muddstah Am I correct in assuming that we won't be getting an Umbris decklist from Max? I know someone else in the comments asked about it. If not, that is totally fine, just wanting to know for sure.
@@heavyarms0505 I'll ask Max about it again. 50/50 chance it's still together though because this was filmed a few months ago.
@@MTGMuddstah Thanks so much for trying! i will see if I can piece it together from the video!
Giving zero-power creatures to the vehicle deck was a nice troll move. 🤣
did Max forget about his Rogues Passage or something? surely he could've finished the game ages ago
Was almost shouting at the screen. Turn 13(?) could have taken out Nick and Andrew on 14
Well dang top comment was a spoiler and before you tell dont go in the comments before the vid im on mobile and in the vertical screen the top comment always shows dureing ads
@@dess8815 gonna cry?
@@ephraimmann 😭 happy now?
Umbris player here!, max i love you for playing umbris :') its my favorite commander to play!
This was a very entertaining game to watch and I couldn't tell who was going to win at all. Great work!
Could we get the umbris deck list?
Nice game. Could you please add the decklist for Umbris in the description?
Whoever did the "hrarr" sound effect for the playmat is my hero
Eleanor is very talented
Seeing Nadaar do the thing makes me want to add a Dungeon subtheme to my Party Deck...
Or just build Sefris and go full on Dungeons.
Sefris is really strong. I recommend it.
I was blown away with how many dungeons Nick cleared in one game!
Nadaar is really, really good I feel. Deck always does the thing, as they say
I had a sefris deck. I didnt even make it that good, in the sense that I didnt include the most terrifying things to reanimate, ie elish norn, either jin etc. The commander is disgusting especially with the new dungeon. I added in the new cards, played 5 games, and each game around turn 10, I just kept accidentally going infinite with dungeons.
She is straight terrifying as well since the only way to deal with her is farewell. literally anything else and all you do is buy 1-2 turns.
I built Barrowin for Orzhov Dungeons, it's a ton of fun and very flavorful with all of the DnD art. Give full dungeons a try! It's a mechanic that isn't going to steamroll the game but, due to it being lower power, won't draw you as much hate.
This why I took apart Meren for Mazirek (seeing Maz on your channel). Gets out of hand so quickly and is just a super fun commander that takes advantage of what most people do already. Saccing treasures, fetches…with token doublers? Also lots of combos that are pretty easy to pull off.
Thank you for showing what other decks can do and enabling my cardboard crack addiction ❤️
Nadaar is such a fun commander. Baldur's gate gave the deck some really fun toys too.
8:30 when Nick flickers Nadar and ventures into Mad Mage and chooses the room to prevent Umbris from attacking until NICK'S next turn, he did so during Max's turn. Which means on Max's next turn he could have attacked with Umbris because Nick's turn had passed directly after. :o
Awesome game!
I actually turned my Phenax/Mirko-vosk deck into an Umbriss deck. (less emphasis on horrors though).
Just a lot of milling, then exiling the yards and them go in for the kill for commander damage.
How have you been enjoying Shorikai? I’ve been contemplating putting a list together and would love the insight.
It's fun so far. I don't typically like Azorius commanders because they all play too much like draw-and-go
Seems like a really value and open enough design. A lot of space for a lot of strategies. Andrew trashed us a couple pf times with it and it seemed fair on each occasion.
I went blue white tokens. Just something different then what everyone else does. I like when my pilots turn into more pilots then into angels with plus 1 plus 1 and vigilance...
Honestly, I like when mistakes are overlooked in editing. It reminds people that great content isn't always perfect, but that doesn't make it any less watchable
Making Umbris unable to attack until your next turn when it's your turn next is a chad move.
Nick trolled Andrew hard about getting a boardwipe for Max's board
I can confirm Nadaar can do tje thing multiple times in a game and just get so much value.
I also built Him recently, with a paladin subtheme and was a blast to play, despite me not winning any game with it.
Can we PLEASE get the decklist for Umbris?
I feel like every time I see Ziatora, it's just the replacement for Korvald after someone's playgroup complained he was too strong. I think it's a shame, I'd like to see a list where she gets to be herself with big flings or something
Ziatora is a problem and korvold isn’t even the biggest threat compared to prrosh.
They are the mighty three.
And they all happen to be dragons😂
I love umbris I'm so exited to see who wins!
Exile is such a powerful ability with very little to counter that effect. For that reason I think Umbriss is extremely over powered.
Oblivion Sower has a Cast-Trigger, not an ETB. (around 18:45)
Oblivion sower has an etb trigger bc it enters as a nightmare. You are right about its main ability not triggering tho
@@ephraimmann aaah... Umbris triggers.
Thanks! I really missed that one and was so focused on the Sower...
What a great and fun game! I definitely want to brew that mono white list!
Oooh just in time for my lunch break viewing.
That Eldrazi displacer could've been so useful... Why wasn't he using it effectively
Do you have the Umbris decklist by any chance ?
Wouldn’t you get the Esper sentential back when the monarch changes ? Sorry for spelling.
Esper Sentinel was exiled from Skyclave Apparition, not with Palace Jailer :)
Why does he heal for 8 not the health of the token?
through lifelink
An chance to get umbris decklist? =)
Any chance for a Ziatota highpower list?? Nice game!
wld love to check out tht umbris deck list been playing around with an umbris build
Didn't know Voldaren Pariah didn't need to sac your own creatures to transform.
What box did Em Jae have at around 2:30? I want one!
It's an old GameBoy carrying case that I converted into a deck box 😉
As always, great game!
I thought i had a certain "hub" tab open when the intro happened...
...i'm sorry, what? lmao. When???
Who is they? Are you referring to Em Jay?
Yeah. “Em Jay” doesn’t get enough attention with the goofy name.
Nadaar ventures on attack not combat damage
I'm a simple man. I see the Goblin. I click like
Not having protection for shorikai lol what am I watching. You have to protect your engine...
Nice game
Nice
I built my robot deck to be a token theme...
Turn 3 Toxic Deluge? yikes...
Edit: TURN 4 DAMNATION? just hammer in the no games allowed sign.
I was thinking the same thing, then late game they had no answers for the ridiculous boards
why does you CEDH make more than 3 turns?, here in Mexico CEDH all CEDH games takes no more than 3 turns to finish
Because this isn't cEDH
Am I the only one getting stressed out by Nick's board
The deck has a lot of moving parts 😅 It sometimes becomes stressful for me too haha
@@nickbond9526 it looks super fun, though!!
@@nickbond9526 were you not venturing on attack with nadaar, cause it's an attack trigger
Isn't Shorikai banned as a commander now?
Nope!
why would it be, out of curiosity?
@@tmakalpha1 just a rumor i heard. Basically multiple ways to tap him and make infinite pilot tokens very easily
@@danpasquale1620 that's interesting but the RC usually bans cards that either warp the meta or lead to oppressive play patterns. AFAIK Shorikai doesn't lend itself to either, unlike Hullbreacher or Leovold.
I'm still waiting for Tergrid to be banned but in the meantime I'll just alpha strike the Tergrid player every time.