The key to Jerry's tone is Jerry. He said that he and EVH tried out each others rigs one time. And that EVH sounded like EVH through Jerry's rig. And that Jerry sounded like Jerry through EVH's rig. That & processing.
Growing up in the early nineties everything was simple and and analog all my guitar player buddies would always ask how I got my tone and every time we all tried out each other's rigs we would sound like who played and I always believed that it's the player not the gear..
@@Ken-yg4um That holds some truth but it's not 100% the case. If I play through a PV backstage vs my rig yes my style will shine but theirs a huge difference in the sound. So yes playing technique and style is paramount but its not the whole nut!
It really is in the hands of the player. There’s a video of Dimebag playing in a club with a small band and he’s playing through a Marshall and a Jackson and it just instantly sounds like dime even though he’s not using any of his usual gear
"Then we bought the CD version that we could not wear out." Kids these days don't know how much of a technical improvement a CD was over previous formats.
Chip McDip most of my life has been spent listening to iTunes and CDs, but I just got into vinyl records. While they all sound good, it seems that with vinyl, there are little intricacies in the sound and in the mix that you don’t quite hear with other formats
Fantastic video!! Dave was so cutting edge for the time, I’m pretty sure if he had the tools we have now he would have utilized them. You’re right, all that matters is the end result! Great work! Alice In Chains are such an amazing band!
@@iceWaterProductions1 He didn't get a bad rap, he was scalping AIC tickets to buy dope among a host of other shady things, not to mention his love of underage girls. He didn't write any of the bass lines on Dirt, Ed Sheeley and Jerry wrote the bass lines to those songs, and Ed had to teach Mike how to play those songs.
its such a shame that every youtuber has to justify their way how they do things infront of 12year old comment writers anyway great tone - got really close!
It's not a hard trick to do. Anyone can do it when you BUY a couple of profiles. OLD guys with REAL skill do it with REAL amps... These kids today I tell you...
I remember one weekend in 1992 my sister came home from college and she had 'Dirt' playing in her car. I heard 'Would?' and was immediately hooked. I listened to the entire album front to back and it's nothing short of a masterpiece. Jerry's dark modality on 'Would?' along with his wild vibrato and extreme string bends made me a fan from the start.
I love how people think this is "too woofy". Bruh... have you even heard music made before 2005? Add some low end in your guitar it won't kill you. I think you got pretty damn close. AiC definitely had some beefy, thick guitar tones.
Yes. I read that the engineer brought the modded marshall (2204?) to the sessions. Apparently Jerry tried to buy it a number of times over the years. It was finally offered to him just after the engineer passed away, but he said it was too much.
Unholy Paimon That amp was used on Facelift. Much much more likely was that it was a Bogner fish preamp probably into a VHT power amp. I don’t believe the Ecstasy even existed in 91/92.
Bogner Fish Preamp which is actually in the Axe Fx and pretty much nails the Dirt tone by itself
4 роки тому+19
The bogner amp was the fish preamp thru his mosvalve power amp, at least that was what he said back then. They basically divided frecuencies in low mids (mesa) mids (fish) and high end (rockman/Marshall microstack i think) The bogner 800 was on facelift, there was a huge thread on gearslutz about it
I've always liked the snarly guitar tone on this album, even if I wasn't a big fan of all their work. The one thing I found lacking in the album was the bass guitar was just thinned out because of the focus on getting a heap of punch out of the kick drum. I ended up running this album through Ozone to boost the mid-bass in the EQ, then compress the low-end up to around the 220Hz mark with about 5dB boost and fast attack and release, add some harmonic excitation of that band as well and finally control whatever remaining peaks through the final limiter on reasonably fast settings too. As a drummer, I should be biased and demand more kick but my head just loves a phat low end to complement such snarly guitars, so a compromise is needed. :) What you did with your rendition of this tune is exactly what my ears want. Killer stuff mate!
I saw the Deftones in the 90s at the Roseland theater in Portland Oregon. You wouldn’t believe it but they were actually using huge rack systems. The power went out several times because they were pulling so much wattage. It caused the show to go past the city noise ordinance time. The cops showed up and shut down the show. I also saw Helmet. They were using VHT Pitbulls.
Fun fact: Jerry Cantrell’s Dual Rectifier was a prototype gifted to him by Mesa. Another fact: a key factor of his tone was a modded JCM800 maybe a JVM with a gain mod, running into a open back 1x12 mic’d on both sides.
They were highly subdued on the album in my opinion. They were regressed further into the track vs the tone that he was actually seeking to represent. If you boosted the tracks from Jerry’s playing it would be nailed.
I agree, I mean, I had like 15 AIC shirts, my nickname in HS was Alice Sickman I was such a psycho fan,lol, and just pummeled my ears to death with this record..his tone on this record is VERY UNIQUE. MAY ALSO have something to do with the fact I heard he had a cab mic"ed from the BACK,an open back cab and a mic in the dead center of the back. I believe Jerry said this himself,and one was a Marshall nodded by Bogner. I wouldnt even attempt to recreate the tone cuz theres too much going on in the studio..but I didnt think his tone matched AT ALL.im not doggin him, I think it's awesome he loves the record so much too...but trying to recreate Jerry's Dirt tone is just impossible...one of a kind..
Back in my addiction 5 years ago I sold my Signature Dunlop JC95SE Pedal and had now idea that only 250 of them where made. Fast forward to today, I finally caught up with buddy I sold it to and managed to get it back. I’m soooo damn excited to get playing that Wah again
Dave Jerden interview about Dirt album, 1977: "What are some of the techniques that you use to record guitars?" On the first Alice in Chains record, Facelift. Jerry Cantrell and I had several amps, and were trying to find sounds on each one. I said, “Lets combine them.” Usually when you combine amps you end up with nothing but mud. But I came across the idea of using different amps for different frequency ranges. That could mean ,for example, using a Vox AC30 closed back for the low end, a Marshall or Bogner Ecstasy or a Mesa Boogie for the midrange, and then using something like a Bogner Fish preamp or Soldano preamp for the top end- something thast I could get a real hard bite from on top. I record those on separate tracks. They all go down at the same time, and then sometimes I double that. "So the first set of three is one performance…….." One performance. My Engineer Brian Carlstrom and I have been making our own active splitter boxes to help deal with hums, buzzes, and all that. The cable comes out of the guitar and the box splits the signal to the three amps. But I just did an album in the Bahamas last year at Terry Mannings studio (who is also a great engineer) and Terry invented an active splitter box with one in and six outs. It has ground lift switches to take care of grounding problems and it works like magic. "And the whole point of having the box is so the pickups aren’t loaded down making the guitar sound different." Exactly. Even the length of the guitar cable can kill the tone. When we’re doing basic tracks, the guitar and bass players are in the control room with the amp heads, and this makes the leads shorter. Keeping the guitar leads short is important because long leads can really take down the high end. "Do you have particular mics that you use for the three amp set-up?" The mainstay for me has been the Shure SM57. We always keep relatively new ones around and we front and back mic open back cabinets with them. I also use AKG C12’s for pulling out the room sound a little bit, or Neumann U47’s or U49’s are great mics for the room. But I don’t tale a $10,000 mic and put it right on a Marshall cabinet. A 57 will get the sound for me. "How much of the mix is there between the close and distant mics?" Probably 20 percent room as opposed to the close mic, and those mics go down to the same track. "When using the multiple amp technique, do the amps go into separate areas or into one room?" There’s two set-ups that I use: one is for basic tracks and the other is for overdubs. When I am doing the basic track, I am not sire if it is going to be a keeper, so I will isolate the guitar and bass amps from the drum room. But, when I actually do guitar overdubs, we pull all of the guitar cabinets ( the heads always stay in the control room) out in the main room and then I have the option of using room mics on them too. "When you mic the front and back of an open back amp, are you generally using a 57 in front and a 57 in back?" It can be a 57 or sometimes I use 421’s. Sometimes it’s a 57 in front and a 421 in back. It varies. The rest of the article : -About the tracking. All guitars and bass were recorded through 24 channels of Summit Tube pres (assembled by Rupert Neve himself), and Summit Tube compressors with a ratio of 4:1 knocking back 6 db. Cut flat to tape. (the SSL was used only for monitoring at this stage. Eqing was done at mixdown) All DI's and mics are compressed together. -The SM57 (for guitars) is placed at a 45 degree angle. Dave says at this position the mic acts like a cardoid and doesn't collapse the capsule when placed in front of a Marshall at 120db. Gives him a certain sound that he likes. (When using the rear mics, make sure to flip the phase.) -He also discussed the eqing of his three amp technique at mixdown. This is where the SSL board eq was used to fine tune the bandwidth of the three amps. It was: bass: amp, low pass only 300 Hz; mid amp: 300 Hz - 4K cut; high amp: 4k- 8k cut.
The Bogner Jerry Used on Dirt was actually a Marshall JCM800 2204 Modded by Reinhold Bogner (His mod can be acheived with either the Brown Channel of the Fish Preamp or his "recent" Helios amplifier)
I remember reading an interview from jerry when dirt came out. He used three amps for different frequencies. Rectifier was used solely only the lowend , Marshall for midrange and the Tom sholtz rockman for the highs. Sounds massive when you assign specific heads for specific frequencies. Somewhere his bogner fish preamp and vht power amp was fitted in there as well.
You're essentially creating a model of a tone so using a modeling rig for that isn't blasphemy. I think it's cool! As long as you're using something to make music and it sounds good, I don't think the amp matters. Being a hardcore tube amp guy, I think all amps and really any kind of guitar gear have their place.
I wonder if it did, in fact, rain the day Layne passed. And I agree... Great song. Very surprised it wasn't a hit single. Then again... That album was loaded with hit singles.
I remember reading somewhere that on the first two AIC records Dave would mic up the back of the speaker cabinet as well as the front to make the guitars sound even larger. Great tone, super close
This is my favorite of all your "find the tone" videos. You really killed it. And, I know you don't care, but the bass, when solo, did sound a little computery. But wow, you really crushed it this time. Also, this is one of my favorite bands, seen them with Staley and the "new guy". Great job.
Fluff I’m glad you floss.... omg there’s a dead dog in your room!!! Awesome video and awesome job on the recreation. I love these videos. To get to see what you get to play with and how much you know about music and recording is years and years beyond me. Your effort for things like this, It’s fascinating. Gj bruh
12:07 without the plugins- is the only time in this video I thought the tone was really close. Every other time in the video- I doesn't sound close at all, in my opinion. Good video either way :)
I heard a little rumor from someone who was studio personnel on Dirt that Jerry used a matchless amp for cleans AND distortion depending on the song. (He didn’t want anyone to know because he didn’t want to be copied during the era.)
Really cool! That tone is huge and you came pretty close. The hard word paid off! Waiting for a Ghost - Meliora tones! Keep up the great content Fluff!
Great Tone, also I like how you balance the film volume between playing and talking i hate having to go back and forth with the volume bar. Very professional, and great tones!
I went to Lollapalooza 93 at the Milan Dragway in Michigan. All I knew about Alice in Chains was Man in the Box at that time. When they came out, they ABSOLUTELY SLAYED. It was one of the best shows of my life. So incredible.
I'm just now watching this a day late. Hats off to you the reproduction is as good as your going to get with out all the innuendos involved "Original studio gear etc." great job I'm impressed!
The "Bogner" jerry talks about is actually Bogner modified jcm800 combo put into a head, its called the "snorkler" amp its kindof a cool story. Those were the days when Bogner was still just doing mods before he started making his own amps. Its the same amp that he used on Facelift. it has that really midrangy nasal tone. I was hoping the JJ would have that sound. but really the JJ just sounds like all the other Friedmans to my ears (i've played a few JJs)
Awesome! Dirt, my favorite album of all times! Jerry is one of my biggest influences when it comes to my own music making. You really did a great job there Fluff! You definitely succeeded in getting both that crispy and fat guitar sound from the album! I love Jerry’s guitar tone and I actually think that it’s improved in a great way for every album they are releasing! Thanks and take care! 👊🏼😎
It’s pretty cool timing that you’re doing this now because I’ve just recently gotten into this album and love the tone. It sounds so fucking gnarly and fat. It’s really the first metal I’ve ever been into and I’ve enjoyed plenty of heavy and fat tones over the years but this is different than anything I’ve heard because it’s proper metal (and because they had so many rhythm tracks on each songs). But before I knew they recorded that many, I was like, “Dude it totally sounds like Mesa to me.” Well, I was partly right lol. Anyway, great video. I think you got really really close and it sounds killer man.
OH MY GOD YES. I LOOOOVE ALICE IN CHAINS!!!! Jerry is the man that inspired me to pick up guitar! Unfortunately I do not have the money to be able to recreate his tone well enough. I'm just a teen. But music is my love and I hope that I can get to the level of having my dream instruments and all that!
Great video man. Must have taken you a while. Iv’e was on the hunt for this tone a few years back. And the trick is that one of the speakers was recorded from behind the cabinet. With the back of the cabinet open. That gave is that rich low end. And the rectifier was a modded pre-production model. So you won’t get the same sound out of a modern rectifier. Anyways sweet vid and keep em coming!
Awesome vid Fluff, no derogatory comments here. I can get really close with my Bogner, Friedman, Splawn, and KSR Orthos. Lots of reverb on that track but you don’t really hear it too much on the studio version. Really enjoy your stuff!
It's pretty good, but to my ears it sounds like the original tone has a lot more highs (almost hm2 sounding) and tighter bottom end. It also sounds to me like jerry's playing alternate picking during the palm mutes so the pick attack is way messier than yours. But great video regardless!
Totally agree. I listened to the isolated guitar track and it's definitely alternate picked, although I never would've thought that based on how tight it sounds in the mix.
Fantastic job in recreating such a fabulous and iconic tone (from a classic album). Quad-tracked . . . Wow. Who would have thought. Definitely makes sense to explain such a thick sound.
Man don’t even acknowledge the haters. That’s what they want. I prefer real amps myself but I could care less what you used in your vid. It’s entertaining and interesting. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
"Rant, Rant,Rant,Rant, rantity, Rant rant. How dare you not care! You... Secure-in-your-self-individual!!!" I'll have you know, this one guy told me, this other guy said, he once met a guy, that used to work with someone, that said you're wrong!
Mike used a Jet Flanger on Them Bones to thicken the tone out. The Video mix used a double track Wet/Dry signal to get more top end. The album version was a Wet only signal.
I'm actually curious how you got that bass tone. I see some a "pedal" plugin(Logic Pro plugin?) on what I believe is a DI track. Any chance of a run down on how you got that tone?
you can get a really nice bass sound with the inbuilt amps in logic, on the modern amp if you mess around a bit, put a logic pedalboard with their rat emulation (everything set pretty low) in front it sounds great. however i second wanting to know what he is using
Playing for 25 years and I still can't tell what you all talk about when you say far, bright, dark, etc. I understands mids, top and bottom obviously, but all the other tone language I just can't hear it. I buy pedals, amps, effects units and I always do the same fuzz, delay, and reverb combo I have used since I was a teenager. I rock my own tone no matter if I'm playing Mick Mars riffs, Jerry Cantrell, or my own shit. I wish I could do the tone thing though but can't grasp it for whatever reason.
undertakerrick dude same! Only I can’t tell the lows mids and highs also. I jus know how to play quite a bit of songs and usually just play along with the song but I never understood all the technical shit but wish I did too cuz I wana learn how to use audio interfaces and all that shit to be able to record myself playing with good sound not jus coming thru an iPhone
undertakerrick it’s all jive talk with those computers plug-ins etc. how could a copy be better than the original? It can’t. It’s all about guitars, Amps, pedals, and maybe a rack. Keep it real.
You really don't know what a bright tone is? Think a about a Fender Strat's bridge single coil plugged in any fender old amp, that is the definition of brightness lol
When people say “bright” and “dark” often are referring to the upper midrange. This usually defines the voicing of different amps. A way you could play around with this is by seeing how the presence knob on your amp interacts with the midrange. An example of dark would be something like a Marshall preamp where as a Fender is going to have a brighter sound. Hope this helps.
Great job Fluff! I think you 100% nailed the Crunch tone but that contrasting trebly Cord needs more high end i think... Jerry is such a master, you almost need three different rigs!
Syny Soul what makes you say that , have you listened to the guiars , bass lines , solos etc. i personally really like the end of hung on a hook when they are harmonizing
@Syny Soul eh I disagree brotha! Of course Layne was an amazing singer and without him it isn't the same. But you have to admit that AIC did make a pretty good comeback after Laynes death. Not many bands can say that. But I totally get where you're coming from
The Dirt album was the soundtrack of my teens!!! I even named one of my kids after Layne Staley. You hit it on the head to my ears, and Jerry's tone is difficult to get right. You can find ALOT of terrible attempts. I'd like to see you do Billy Corrigan "Siamese Dream" tone🤘😎🤘🎵🎼🔥🤞
When I was younger my mom brought me up listening to a lot of different styles of music, anything from 50s rock to 80s pop, somewhere along the way during middle school I discovered metal. Slipknot specifically, it wasn’t until my senior year of high school that my best friend introduced me to Alice In Chains, they’ve since become my favorite band, I’ve seen them live once and I’ve seen Jerry live on a solo tour once. Jerry alone has kept me interested in guitars, he has inspired me to pick up my old guitar again and try to learn in my free time during college. I’m a week in now and can sort of play the intro to Frogs, I’m hopeful that a few years down the line I can play some full covers and maybe even make my own riffs
I can really appreciate the work you put into this quest to find that tone, awesome job breaking this down very interesting for sure you are good at this.
Great video. I thought I would share that the rumors back in the day (can't remember where I heard this) but the real secret was that he had an open back 1x12 cab and stuck a mic in the back. That is what made the woofy bass. It's all that air blasting in the back. Not sure how true it is but I'd love someone to try it and let us know. Also Fluff, I'd love to see all your trial and error going through your building of these videos.
If ya haven't checked it out, Rocco Pezzin also recently did a Cantrell tone vid as well. He did a cover later on of Them Bones with Leon Todd and another guy. You both did a fantastic job and got insanely close with that tone man.
Hey Fluff! I know it's a bit of a stretch but it would be super cool if you started tone capturing these rigs for the Mooer GE-300 community. Everybody shows the fractal and helix a bunch of love but forgets about us ge300 guys! Great channel by the way, been a fan for a long time.
At first I was gonna be that guy that says it doesn’t count without real amps but then I saw the amount of work you put into it. Well done! Nailed the tone
A thumbs up for sharing a human moment....(He was probably thinking.... Shit . . .. That guy's gonna figure my tone out, I'll have to make my trills even flashier!)
As a guitarist of 27 or so years, I can say I'm never quite satisfied with the sound I have. A lot of the sound that is created in the studio is a matter of creating space and solutions to a need for how to make a mix work. In short, the sound you hear on the record isn't anywhere close to the sound that was actually used in the studio, live, or in his rehearsal space. Most guitarists know that it is not likely that you heard is what they really want to be conveyed ( the sound in their head ). So when you said you loved his tone, he was probably looking at you like " gross, he really liked that sound, I hated it.....". It was surely not a personal thing, but more a holy cow, I have a good idea of what he is talking about, but that is not my idea of good tone. Hypothesizing anyway. I have played shows where I thought the FOH sound that I could hear of myself was horrid and others where it sounded just fine. Having done sound for countless numbers of bands in the past 20 years, I can say that I have heard many guitar tones that alone sound horrid, but as soon as the band plays, it sounds like a platinum record. Conversely, I have heard many guitar tones that alone sound great, but as soon as the band plays as a whole, it sounds like poop. Having done sound for probably close to 1000 bands, it is a truly mixed bag. The guys I am most impressed with don't have Rick Toone guitars and Diezel or Bogner amps, but honestly just have the right sound to compliment the band as a whole, usually with semi-affordable gear.
@@atech9020 electric distorted guitar always sounds best by itself. seems like with a band something is always lost in the cool tone. my best memories of cool sounds are hearing some random person in a pawn shop trying out a guitar.
I doubt that his reaction was about you or what you said specifically. When it comes to a musician's recorded products or live music when someone tries to compliment them they're probably wondering "What did they mean by that? Are they joking?" Or "Well duh it's good, that's why I use it" Or "Are people actually debating if this sounds good?" The bottom line is that no one is more critical of someone's music than the person that created it
It’s interesting to compare the live tone vs the studio tone. You were spot on with the grungy setting. It’s very tool yet more alternative brighter sound. it’s interesting to see if they change it live though. . I’d say some if not most match it as well as they can but if your adding studio FX you can’t match it perfect live. Interesting topic
I was very young when Dirt was released, and didn't know it existed in my youth. It is now my favorite album of all time. Honest, raw, dirty, and tone to die for.
My first recollection of A&C was in 1995. I walked into my apartment and my girlfriend was watching MTV. Grind was playing. I was like WTF is that?!?!. The opening credits had already played and she couldn't remember. But she kept an eye out and was later able to tell me the artist. Hooked ever since.
Hi Fluff, big AIC and Jerry fan here. Been waiting a long time for this video! You nailed it! Would you like to recreate Dime's Reinventing the Steel guitar tone?
*WARNING* Long (but complimentary) comment... Sounds awesome! Couple things. Jerry and Jurden have both said the "Bogner" was actually a Bogner-modded Marshall (2203 I believe) that Dave Friedman later used as the starting point for "Jerry's Double J" head. I do personally think you used just a hair too much gain on each guitar though. I also think you could've done this with your sig amp sim, which is significantly less expensive than an Axe-FX. All in all, this was awesome man. Closer than I've heard anyone get on UA-cam. And the haters can suck it. I work out of an almost 10k sq. ft. studio, with multiple big rooms, a very "warm" control room, and a mic collection that would make most engineers very jealous, and it would still be a MASSIVE undertaking to re-create that tone. (That is not meant to be a Flex, just proof that Fluff did it the only way you can in a small studio, and nailed it, really.)
The Friedman JJ isn't all that much like the Snorkeler from what I've seen in reverse engineered schematics. The Snorkeler has the the cathode follower turned into a 4th gain stage along as well as some odd tweaks to the tone stack, whereas the JJ is a darker variation on Friedman's standard BE/HBE design.
The key to Jerry's tone is Jerry. He said that he and EVH tried out each others rigs one time. And that EVH sounded like EVH through Jerry's rig. And that Jerry sounded like Jerry through EVH's rig.
That & processing.
Growing up in the early nineties everything was simple and and analog all my guitar player buddies would always ask how I got my tone and every time we all tried out each other's rigs we would sound like who played and I always believed that it's the player not the gear..
🤟🤟☘
@@Ken-yg4um That holds some truth but it's not 100% the case. If I play through a PV backstage vs my rig yes my style will shine but theirs a huge difference in the sound. So yes playing technique and style is paramount but its not the whole nut!
It really is in the hands of the player. There’s a video of Dimebag playing in a club with a small band and he’s playing through a Marshall and a Jackson and it just instantly sounds like dime even though he’s not using any of his usual gear
"Then we bought the CD version that we could not wear out." Kids these days don't know how much of a technical improvement a CD was over previous formats.
Buuuuuuut vinyl sounds better hehe...
@@chipmcdip8629
No, not at all
The ability to skip directly to any song was a miracle!!!! I remember being so sick of fast forwarding.
Chip McDip most of my life has been spent listening to iTunes and CDs, but I just got into vinyl records. While they all sound good, it seems that with vinyl, there are little intricacies in the sound and in the mix that you don’t quite hear with other formats
@@davidvondusseldorf1208 how so
Fantastic video!! Dave was so cutting edge for the time, I’m pretty sure if he had the tools we have now he would have utilized them. You’re right, all that matters is the end result! Great work! Alice In Chains are such an amazing band!
Folks should check out your interviews with Jerden. They were great.
Loved your man in the box interview with Dave. I hope he's doing well
Dirt is an absolute masterpiece it was their last album with bassist Mike Starr and was recorded in their prime great video dude!
Leonardo R Soares I agree- I’ll put it up there with almost anything! Genius
Mike Starr got a bad rap. Then again he must have had to be completely out of it to be let go.
I’m speechless. That was amazing
@@iceWaterProductions1 He didn't get a bad rap, he was scalping AIC tickets to buy dope among a host of other shady things, not to mention his love of underage girls. He didn't write any of the bass lines on Dirt, Ed Sheeley and Jerry wrote the bass lines to those songs, and Ed had to teach Mike how to play those songs.
I wholeheartedly agree 🤟🏻💀🤟🏻
Jerry Cantrell is one of the most influential guitarist from the 90s. Thanks for this video!
its such a shame that every youtuber has to justify their way how they do things infront of 12year old comment writers
anyway great tone - got really close!
@NootNoot Comment of the year so far!
Yeah I get that all the time. People complain about the free content that I create for them!
It's not a hard trick to do. Anyone can do it when you BUY a couple of profiles. OLD guys with REAL skill do it with REAL amps...
These kids today I tell you...
Only from a distance this is bait right?
@@onlyfromadistance7326 weak troll
I remember one weekend in 1992 my sister came home from college and she had 'Dirt' playing in her car. I heard 'Would?' and was immediately hooked. I listened to the entire album front to back and it's nothing short of a masterpiece. Jerry's dark modality on 'Would?' along with his wild vibrato and extreme string bends made me a fan from the start.
I love how people think this is "too woofy". Bruh... have you even heard music made before 2005? Add some low end in your guitar it won't kill you. I think you got pretty damn close. AiC definitely had some beefy, thick guitar tones.
and most tones sound shit outside of the mix but incredible in it
big difference between bottom end and woofiness
Sludge factory might be the greatest guitar tone ever recorded
The solos on that track are sooo good
I read somewhere that he used a 5150 on that track
I love "Head Creeps" tone so much but Sludge Factory has always been one of my favorite songs ever, such an underrated song with Frogs
Junkhead live from the Singles release show aired on MTV was absolutely scary time wise. You can feel it through the video. 😎
@@ogulcanyolcu8714 i agree bro killer album my all time favourite .
The "Bogner" amp was a Marshall JCM800 modded by Reinhold Bogner, supposedly.
Yes. I read that the engineer brought the modded marshall (2204?) to the sessions. Apparently Jerry tried to buy it a number of times over the years. It was finally offered to him just after the engineer passed away, but he said it was too much.
The Snorkler there are UA-cam clips
Unholy Paimon That amp was used on Facelift. Much much more likely was that it was a Bogner fish preamp probably into a VHT power amp. I don’t believe the Ecstasy even existed in 91/92.
You sure?
www.gearslutz.com/board/q-a-with-dave-jerden/1030487-dirt-guitar-sound.html
Bogner Fish Preamp which is actually in the Axe Fx and pretty much nails the Dirt tone by itself
The bogner amp was the fish preamp thru his mosvalve power amp, at least that was what he said back then. They basically divided frecuencies in low mids (mesa) mids (fish) and high end (rockman/Marshall microstack i think)
The bogner 800 was on facelift, there was a huge thread on gearslutz about it
I've always liked the snarly guitar tone on this album, even if I wasn't a big fan of all their work.
The one thing I found lacking in the album was the bass guitar was just thinned out because of the focus on getting a heap of punch out of the kick drum. I ended up running this album through Ozone to boost the mid-bass in the EQ, then compress the low-end up to around the 220Hz mark with about 5dB boost and fast attack and release, add some harmonic excitation of that band as well and finally control whatever remaining peaks through the final limiter on reasonably fast settings too.
As a drummer, I should be biased and demand more kick but my head just loves a phat low end to complement such snarly guitars, so a compromise is needed. :) What you did with your rendition of this tune is exactly what my ears want. Killer stuff mate!
SO good!!! Yes, Dirt was a masterpiece! Keep these coming please. Some Soundgarden next perhaps???
Yea ,Badmotorfinger
4th of July!
Beelzebubba817 I second 4th of July
Definitely need to do a Hum or Deftones (around the fur era) tone recreation
Thats gotta be one of the best tones ever
I'd also like to request a Helmet or Quicksand recreation.
That tone is ridiculous. Not even a huge Deftones fans.
I saw the Deftones in the 90s at the Roseland theater in Portland Oregon. You wouldn’t believe it but they were actually using huge rack systems. The power went out several times because they were pulling so much wattage. It caused the show to go past the city noise ordinance time. The cops showed up and shut down the show. I also saw Helmet. They were using VHT Pitbulls.
Definitely
Fun fact: Jerry Cantrell’s Dual Rectifier was a prototype gifted to him by Mesa. Another fact: a key factor of his tone was a modded JCM800 maybe a JVM with a gain mod, running into a open back 1x12 mic’d on both sides.
modded marshalls: forever the scourge of tone chasers
Michael Czesnozki his amp was actually a jmp 2204 or 2203 modified by reinholt bogner
I think Mr Friedman was the one modding Jerry's amps back then too
No JVM, didn’t exist in the ‘90s.
@@MikeBiscuits27 Jerry used a Bogner mod for the first 2 albums I believe
In my humble opinion that finished tone wasn't even close.. I ate and drank that cd for years and the tones are tattooed on my brain.. lol
here you go. ua-cam.com/video/hrauekAtjDw/v-deo.html
@@davidyates8880 Quite a bit more high-end on the OG tracks
They were highly subdued on the album in my opinion. They were regressed further into the track vs the tone that he was actually seeking to represent. If you boosted the tracks from Jerry’s playing it would be nailed.
I agree, I mean, I had like 15 AIC shirts, my nickname in HS was Alice Sickman I was such a psycho fan,lol, and just pummeled my ears to death with this record..his tone on this record is VERY UNIQUE. MAY ALSO have something to do with the fact I heard he had a cab mic"ed from the BACK,an open back cab and a mic in the dead center of the back. I believe Jerry said this himself,and one was a Marshall nodded by Bogner. I wouldnt even attempt to recreate the tone cuz theres too much going on in the studio..but I didnt think his tone matched AT ALL.im not doggin him, I think it's awesome he loves the record so much too...but trying to recreate Jerry's Dirt tone is just impossible...one of a kind..
I agree. It’s missing the thud. You only get that by micing the back of an open cab which they definitely did for Jerry.
You got damn near spot on. As we say in the mechanic's world, "run what you brung and hope you brung enough!" Good job bud.
Back in my addiction 5 years ago I sold my Signature Dunlop JC95SE Pedal and had now idea that only 250 of them where made. Fast forward to today, I finally caught up with buddy I sold it to and managed to get it back. I’m soooo damn excited to get playing that Wah again
Your voice is identical to Bert Kreischer. 😂
BRUH
Holy shit. I just realized that. He absolutely does. Lol
The Machine!
😮
jesus christ 😂👀👀👀
I personally like Facelift more, its my favorite album of all time. But there's no denying Dirt is their best piece of work
Respect. Get the tone how you can. I don’t think I’d be able to get out of my mental box enough to get that experimental with the axe. Good work man
Dave Jerden interview about Dirt album, 1977:
"What are some of the techniques that you use to record guitars?"
On the first Alice in Chains record, Facelift. Jerry Cantrell and I had several amps, and were trying to find sounds on each one. I said, “Lets combine them.” Usually when you combine amps you end up with nothing but mud. But I came across the idea of using different amps for different frequency ranges. That could mean ,for example, using a Vox AC30 closed back for the low end, a Marshall or Bogner Ecstasy or a Mesa Boogie for the midrange, and then using something like a Bogner Fish preamp or Soldano preamp for the top end- something thast I could get a real hard bite from on top. I record those on separate tracks. They all go down at the same time, and then sometimes I double that.
"So the first set of three is one performance…….."
One performance. My Engineer Brian Carlstrom and I have been making our own active splitter boxes to help deal with hums, buzzes, and all that. The cable comes out of the guitar and the box splits the signal to the three amps. But I just did an album in the Bahamas last year at Terry Mannings studio (who is also a great engineer) and Terry invented an active splitter box with one in and six outs. It has ground lift switches to take care of grounding problems and it works like magic.
"And the whole point of having the box is so the pickups aren’t loaded down making the guitar sound different."
Exactly. Even the length of the guitar cable can kill the tone. When we’re doing basic tracks, the guitar and bass players are in the control room with the amp heads, and this makes the leads shorter. Keeping the guitar leads short is important because long leads can really take down the high end.
"Do you have particular mics that you use for the three amp set-up?"
The mainstay for me has been the Shure SM57. We always keep relatively new ones around and we front and back mic open back cabinets with them. I also use AKG C12’s for pulling out the room sound a little bit, or Neumann U47’s or U49’s are great mics for the room. But I don’t tale a $10,000 mic and put it right on a Marshall cabinet. A 57 will get the sound for me.
"How much of the mix is there between the close and distant mics?"
Probably 20 percent room as opposed to the close mic, and those mics go down to the same track.
"When using the multiple amp technique, do the amps go into separate areas or into one room?"
There’s two set-ups that I use: one is for basic tracks and the other is for overdubs. When I am doing the basic track, I am not sire if it is going to be a keeper, so I will isolate the guitar and bass amps from the drum room. But, when I actually do guitar overdubs, we pull all of the guitar cabinets ( the heads always stay in the control room) out in the main room and then I have the option of using room mics on them too.
"When you mic the front and back of an open back amp, are you generally using a 57 in front and a 57 in back?"
It can be a 57 or sometimes I use 421’s. Sometimes it’s a 57 in front and a 421 in back. It varies.
The rest of the article :
-About the tracking. All guitars and bass were recorded through 24 channels of Summit Tube pres (assembled by Rupert Neve himself), and Summit Tube compressors with a ratio of 4:1 knocking back 6 db. Cut flat to tape. (the SSL was used only for monitoring at this stage. Eqing was done at mixdown) All DI's and mics are compressed together.
-The SM57 (for guitars) is placed at a 45 degree angle. Dave says at this position the mic acts like a cardoid and doesn't collapse the capsule when placed in front of a Marshall at 120db. Gives him a certain sound that he likes. (When using the rear mics, make sure to flip the phase.)
-He also discussed the eqing of his three amp technique at mixdown. This is where the SSL board eq was used to fine tune the bandwidth of the three amps. It was: bass: amp, low pass only 300 Hz; mid amp: 300 Hz - 4K cut; high amp: 4k- 8k cut.
The Bogner Jerry Used on Dirt was actually a Marshall JCM800 2204 Modded by Reinhold Bogner (His mod can be acheived with either the Brown Channel of the Fish Preamp or his "recent" Helios amplifier)
I remember reading an interview from jerry when dirt came out. He used three amps for different frequencies. Rectifier was used solely only the lowend , Marshall for midrange and the Tom sholtz rockman for the highs. Sounds massive when you assign specific heads for specific frequencies. Somewhere his bogner fish preamp and vht power amp was fitted in there as well.
You're essentially creating a model of a tone so using a modeling rig for that isn't blasphemy. I think it's cool! As long as you're using something to make music and it sounds good, I don't think the amp matters. Being a hardcore tube amp guy, I think all amps and really any kind of guitar gear have their place.
I'd love to hear and see how Rain When I Die was rigged up and things. I feel it's an underrated song from DIRT.
I wonder if it did, in fact, rain the day Layne passed. And I agree... Great song. Very surprised it wasn't a hit single. Then again... That album was loaded with hit singles.
@@masondixon1718 rumors it did
My favorite AIC song!
@bls8959 in the pacific northwest, it's a fair chance
I remember reading somewhere that on the first two AIC records Dave would mic up the back of the speaker cabinet as well as the front to make the guitars sound even larger. Great tone, super close
Another great video R~B~G !!!
thanks for the content & keep pumping out the vid's.... 🐈
One of the best albums to come out of the 90’s!!! I played it until the lacquer melted of of my cd!!! 🤘🤘🤘 RIP Layne...
This is my favorite of all your "find the tone" videos. You really killed it. And, I know you don't care, but the bass, when solo, did sound a little computery. But wow, you really crushed it this time. Also, this is one of my favorite bands, seen them with Staley and the "new guy". Great job.
I got to see them play parts of Dirt live, for free, in a basketball auditorium just prior to the album release.
Felt pretty special.
Fluff I’m glad you floss.... omg there’s a dead dog in your room!!!
Awesome video and awesome job on the recreation. I love these videos. To get to see what you get to play with and how much you know about music and recording is years and years beyond me. Your effort for things like this, It’s fascinating. Gj bruh
12:07 without the plugins- is the only time in this video I thought the tone was really close.
Every other time in the video- I doesn't sound close at all, in my opinion.
Good video either way :)
I heard a little rumor from someone who was studio personnel on Dirt that Jerry used a matchless amp for cleans AND distortion depending on the song. (He didn’t want anyone to know because he didn’t want to be copied during the era.)
Really cool! That tone is huge and you came pretty close. The hard word paid off! Waiting for a Ghost - Meliora tones! Keep up the great content Fluff!
Fluff my dude I loved your "all the toys are awesome" speech. On every level. Killer.
Great Tone, also I like how you balance the film volume between playing and talking i hate having to go back and forth with the volume bar. Very professional, and great tones!
I went to Lollapalooza 93 at the Milan Dragway in Michigan. All I knew about Alice in Chains was Man in the Box at that time. When they came out, they ABSOLUTELY SLAYED. It was one of the best shows of my life. So incredible.
Jerry's playing on that album is amazing I mean truly amazing his bands everything as much as lanes voice hits you Jerry's guitar is just as important
I'm just now watching this a day late. Hats off to you the reproduction is as good as your going to get with out all the innuendos involved "Original studio gear etc." great job I'm impressed!
Great work, man! First time viewer. Really enjoyed it! Thank u for sharing.
Right on man. That's the tone and vibe brother. AMAZING VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!
The "Bogner" jerry talks about is actually Bogner modified jcm800 combo put into a head, its called the "snorkler" amp its kindof a cool story. Those were the days when Bogner was still just doing mods before he started making his own amps. Its the same amp that he used on Facelift. it has that really midrangy nasal tone. I was hoping the JJ would have that sound. but really the JJ just sounds like all the other Friedmans to my ears (i've played a few JJs)
Surprisingly, Friedmans are the closest to the Snorkler.
Sorry, I basically just made about the same comment. Down to the quotes on "bogner" 😂
like the positivity dude. I adore AIC and dirt is a masterpiece. dude could you imagine Halpern drumming for AIC?
The fact that you got so close to his tone with digital amps is damn impressive. It sounds great!
Awesome! Dirt, my favorite album of all times! Jerry is one of my biggest influences when it comes to my own music making. You really did a great job there Fluff! You definitely succeeded in getting both that crispy and fat guitar sound from the album! I love Jerry’s guitar tone and I actually think that it’s improved in a great way for every album they are releasing! Thanks and take care! 👊🏼😎
pretty damn close! nice work. DIRT is a fucking epic album
It’s pretty cool timing that you’re doing this now because I’ve just recently gotten into this album and love the tone. It sounds so fucking gnarly and fat. It’s really the first metal I’ve ever been into and I’ve enjoyed plenty of heavy and fat tones over the years but this is different than anything I’ve heard because it’s proper metal (and because they had so many rhythm tracks on each songs). But before I knew they recorded that many, I was like, “Dude it totally sounds like Mesa to me.” Well, I was partly right lol. Anyway, great video. I think you got really really close and it sounds killer man.
OH MY GOD YES. I LOOOOVE ALICE IN CHAINS!!!! Jerry is the man that inspired me to pick up guitar! Unfortunately I do not have the money to be able to recreate his tone well enough. I'm just a teen. But music is my love and I hope that I can get to the level of having my dream instruments and all that!
I would never fault you for the digital gear. You are my new hero.
Great video man. Must have taken you a while. Iv’e was on the hunt for this tone a few years back. And the trick is that one of the speakers was recorded from behind the cabinet. With the back of the cabinet open. That gave is that rich low end. And the rectifier was a modded pre-production model. So you won’t get the same sound out of a modern rectifier. Anyways sweet vid and keep em coming!
Awesome vid Fluff, no derogatory comments here. I can get really close with my Bogner, Friedman, Splawn, and KSR Orthos. Lots of reverb on that track but you don’t really hear it too much on the studio version. Really enjoy your stuff!
When this video started I was about to comment and tell you you can get his exact tone with the AxeFx lol. You nailed it. Nice job man
Make more of these!!! This was fucking awesome.
It's pretty good, but to my ears it sounds like the original tone has a lot more highs (almost hm2 sounding) and tighter bottom end. It also sounds to me like jerry's playing alternate picking during the palm mutes so the pick attack is way messier than yours. But great video regardless!
Totally agree. I listened to the isolated guitar track and it's definitely alternate picked, although I never would've thought that based on how tight it sounds in the mix.
Jerry indeed alt picks it. you can see it live + on his friedman vid
@@jaymz Yep, can see it on multiple live vids. Surprising!
@@somethingbl yeah hes such a tight player i love it!
Fantastic job in recreating such a fabulous and iconic tone (from a classic album). Quad-tracked . . . Wow. Who would have thought. Definitely makes sense to explain such a thick sound.
The dog doesn't care either. He's chillin!
Man don’t even acknowledge the haters. That’s what they want. I prefer real amps myself but I could care less what you used in your vid. It’s entertaining and interesting. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
i love these videos. your best so far imo, keep it up
"Rant, Rant,Rant,Rant, rantity, Rant rant.
How dare you not care! You... Secure-in-your-self-individual!!!"
I'll have you know, this one guy told me, this other guy said, he once met a guy, that used to work with someone, that said you're wrong!
Black Gives Way To Blue guitar tone video?
He's Going to need a Bogner Überschall amp...and I absolutely want to hear Fluff Playing through this amp !
I was just about to type this!
hugo folch The Fractal has Bogner amps in it.
@@hugofolch876 he has the ubershall synergy preamp so he could get pretty close I think
Monster tone! I agree
Mike used a Jet Flanger on Them Bones to thicken the tone out. The Video mix used a double track Wet/Dry signal to get more top end. The album version was a Wet only signal.
I'm actually curious how you got that bass tone. I see some a "pedal" plugin(Logic Pro plugin?) on what I believe is a DI track. Any chance of a run down on how you got that tone?
you can get a really nice bass sound with the inbuilt amps in logic, on the modern amp if you mess around a bit, put a logic pedalboard with their rat emulation (everything set pretty low) in front it sounds great. however i second wanting to know what he is using
Would be interested in that too. I see that he used the UAD Ampeg, but no idea what the "Pedals" plugin is.
Playing for 25 years and I still can't tell what you all talk about when you say far, bright, dark, etc. I understands mids, top and bottom obviously, but all the other tone language I just can't hear it. I buy pedals, amps, effects units and I always do the same fuzz, delay, and reverb combo I have used since I was a teenager. I rock my own tone no matter if I'm playing Mick Mars riffs, Jerry Cantrell, or my own shit. I wish I could do the tone thing though but can't grasp it for whatever reason.
undertakerrick dude same! Only I can’t tell the lows mids and highs also. I jus know how to play quite a bit of songs and usually just play along with the song but I never understood all the technical shit but wish I did too cuz I wana learn how to use audio interfaces and all that shit to be able to record myself playing with good sound not jus coming thru an iPhone
Try eating some magic shrooms and start playing with the tone when they start to kick in. You'll become expert in this field after 2 or 3 hours.
undertakerrick it’s all jive talk with those computers plug-ins etc. how could a copy be better than the original? It can’t. It’s all about guitars, Amps, pedals, and maybe a rack. Keep it real.
You really don't know what a bright tone is? Think a about a Fender Strat's bridge single coil plugged in any fender old amp, that is the definition of brightness lol
When people say “bright” and “dark” often are referring to the upper midrange. This usually defines the voicing of different amps. A way you could play around with this is by seeing how the presence knob on your amp interacts with the midrange. An example of dark would be something like a Marshall preamp where as a Fender is going to have a brighter sound. Hope this helps.
Great job Fluff! I think you 100% nailed the Crunch tone but that contrasting trebly Cord needs more high end i think... Jerry is such a master, you almost need three different rigs!
You should try to recreate the “Devil put the dinosaurs here” tone. Because personally that’s my favorite AiC album
Yeah, the tone he gets on Hollow is awesome
same here
Syny Soul what makes you say that , have you listened to the guiars , bass lines , solos etc. i personally really like the end of hung on a hook when they are harmonizing
@Syny Soul eh I disagree brotha! Of course Layne was an amazing singer and without him it isn't the same. But you have to admit that AIC did make a pretty good comeback after Laynes death. Not many bands can say that. But I totally get where you're coming from
Aiden Cantrell that’s all the jj100
The Dirt album was the soundtrack of my teens!!! I even named one of my kids after Layne Staley. You hit it on the head to my ears, and Jerry's tone is difficult to get right. You can find ALOT of terrible attempts. I'd like to see you do Billy Corrigan "Siamese Dream" tone🤘😎🤘🎵🎼🔥🤞
Electro-Harmonix Op-amp Big Muff Pi Fuzz Pedal is dead on if you want to sound like Smashing Pumpkins.
Me, a Millenial:
*GTA San Andreas - Radio X*
Yes!!!
Haha yeah man thats how i got into AIC.
Always jammed to it on there!
😂
Me, a Gen Z:
ah yes, "Sage".
Great Vid man. I think you got real close to nailing it 100%. 👍
When I was younger my mom brought me up listening to a lot of different styles of music, anything from 50s rock to 80s pop, somewhere along the way during middle school I discovered metal. Slipknot specifically, it wasn’t until my senior year of high school that my best friend introduced me to Alice In Chains, they’ve since become my favorite band, I’ve seen them live once and I’ve seen Jerry live on a solo tour once. Jerry alone has kept me interested in guitars, he has inspired me to pick up my old guitar again and try to learn in my free time during college. I’m a week in now and can sort of play the intro to Frogs, I’m hopeful that a few years down the line I can play some full covers and maybe even make my own riffs
I can really appreciate the work you put into this quest to find that tone, awesome job breaking this down very interesting for sure you are good at this.
I'm just glad your teeth are freshly flossed for the vid! & Long Live Jerry Cantrell.
Fluff, who won the full licence for Amp Roots ? Who did you pick up ? :)
the winner will be announced via email and i think the produce like a pro blog on may 18th
Great video. I thought I would share that the rumors back in the day (can't remember where I heard this) but the real secret was that he had an open back 1x12 cab and stuck a mic in the back. That is what made the woofy bass. It's all that air blasting in the back. Not sure how true it is but I'd love someone to try it and let us know. Also Fluff, I'd love to see all your trial and error going through your building of these videos.
Dirt has one of the greatest hard rock tones of all time. Jerry knows what’s up when it comes to his tone, just like EVH.
If ya haven't checked it out, Rocco Pezzin also recently did a Cantrell tone vid as well. He did a cover later on of Them Bones with Leon Todd and another guy. You both did a fantastic job and got insanely close with that tone man.
Hey Fluff! I know it's a bit of a stretch but it would be super cool if you started tone capturing these rigs for the Mooer GE-300 community. Everybody shows the fractal and helix a bunch of love but forgets about us ge300 guys! Great channel by the way, been a fan for a long time.
Sounds Killer dude! and the tone is bang on!! Rock on
This couldn’t be better timing, I have been learning the entire album during quarantine 🤟
At first I was gonna be that guy that says it doesn’t count without real amps but then I saw the amount of work you put into it. Well done! Nailed the tone
Great video! I love the tone you arrived at.
Nice bro, took me back. Sounds killer sir.
I told Jerry Cantrell I loved his tone and he looked at me like I was a leper! Very uncomfortable.
A thumbs up for sharing a human moment....(He was probably thinking.... Shit . . .. That guy's gonna figure my tone out, I'll have to make my trills even flashier!)
As a guitarist of 27 or so years, I can say I'm never quite satisfied with the sound I have. A lot of the sound that is created in the studio is a matter of creating space and solutions to a need for how to make a mix work. In short, the sound you hear on the record isn't anywhere close to the sound that was actually used in the studio, live, or in his rehearsal space. Most guitarists know that it is not likely that you heard is what they really want to be conveyed ( the sound in their head ). So when you said you loved his tone, he was probably looking at you like " gross, he really liked that sound, I hated it.....". It was surely not a personal thing, but more a holy cow, I have a good idea of what he is talking about, but that is not my idea of good tone. Hypothesizing anyway. I have played shows where I thought the FOH sound that I could hear of myself was horrid and others where it sounded just fine. Having done sound for countless numbers of bands in the past 20 years, I can say that I have heard many guitar tones that alone sound horrid, but as soon as the band plays, it sounds like a platinum record. Conversely, I have heard many guitar tones that alone sound great, but as soon as the band plays as a whole, it sounds like poop. Having done sound for probably close to 1000 bands, it is a truly mixed bag. The guys I am most impressed with don't have Rick Toone guitars and Diezel or Bogner amps, but honestly just have the right sound to compliment the band as a whole, usually with semi-affordable gear.
Daniel D in most interviews jerry usually comes of as a funny chill guy who is a bit of a himbo, but a genius at guitar.
@@atech9020 electric distorted guitar always sounds best by itself. seems like with a band something is always lost in the cool tone. my best memories of cool sounds are hearing some random person in a pawn shop trying out a guitar.
I doubt that his reaction was about you or what you said specifically. When it comes to a musician's recorded products or live music when someone tries to compliment them they're probably wondering "What did they mean by that? Are they joking?" Or "Well duh it's good, that's why I use it" Or "Are people actually debating if this sounds good?" The bottom line is that no one is more critical of someone's music than the person that created it
Great video by the way. I love the tone on Dirt.
I’d have to agree with you and say that you did a damn good job on nailing his tone down. These new tools were put out for a reason.
Love your videos fluff ❤️❤️ they’re just so cozy
This is so cool, man! Love it! thanks!
It’s interesting to compare the live tone vs the studio tone. You were spot on with the grungy setting. It’s very tool yet more alternative brighter sound. it’s interesting to see if they change it live though. . I’d say some if not most match it as well as they can but if your adding studio FX you can’t match it perfect live. Interesting topic
I was very young when Dirt was released, and didn't know it existed in my youth. It is now my favorite album of all time. Honest, raw, dirty, and tone to die for.
Amazing video Ryan. Thanks for the learning experience.
My first recollection of A&C was in 1995. I walked into my apartment and my girlfriend was watching MTV. Grind was playing. I was like WTF is that?!?!. The opening credits had already played and she couldn't remember. But she kept an eye out and was later able to tell me the artist. Hooked ever since.
Aic guitars are always so thick and heavy,Jerry’s a guitar god for sure! Great job very close to the dirt tone🤘
So glad to have this great album, and Them Bones is so goddamn heavy!
Love this video, man. Liked and Subscribed.
I miss these videos. They've helped me get way better guitar tones.
Hi Fluff, big AIC and Jerry fan here. Been waiting a long time for this video! You nailed it!
Would you like to recreate Dime's Reinventing the Steel guitar tone?
Pretty cool man. Nice work. Thanks too!
Thanks for giving a lot of good details on how you made this tone.
*WARNING* Long (but complimentary) comment...
Sounds awesome! Couple things. Jerry and Jurden have both said the "Bogner" was actually a Bogner-modded Marshall (2203 I believe) that Dave Friedman later used as the starting point for "Jerry's Double J" head. I do personally think you used just a hair too much gain on each guitar though. I also think you could've done this with your sig amp sim, which is significantly less expensive than an Axe-FX. All in all, this was awesome man. Closer than I've heard anyone get on UA-cam. And the haters can suck it. I work out of an almost 10k sq. ft. studio, with multiple big rooms, a very "warm" control room, and a mic collection that would make most engineers very jealous, and it would still be a MASSIVE undertaking to re-create that tone. (That is not meant to be a Flex, just proof that Fluff did it the only way you can in a small studio, and nailed it, really.)
I would say way more than a hair too much. Jerry's tone is not that over the top or saturated.
The Friedman JJ isn't all that much like the Snorkeler from what I've seen in reverse engineered schematics. The Snorkeler has the the cathode follower turned into a 4th gain stage along as well as some odd tweaks to the tone stack, whereas the JJ is a darker variation on Friedman's standard BE/HBE design.
I agree. I'm personally a tube amp guy, but the point is you GOT the tone and it sounded awesome.