IMPRESSIVE £1k R2R DAC Musician Audio Pegasus REVIEW

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  • @IsaacChew
    @IsaacChew 3 роки тому +3

    I am a pegasus owner. And a long term viewer of this channel. I can’t help but feel this review is half-baked. And I hope a better job can be done when reviews are made. To test a product in suboptimal situation (no balance cables on hand) and could not show the inside (does not know which screws to open. Actually just two small screws at the back). I can’t help but feel a lack of interest. It is probably a joint responsibility w the equipment provider. More communication between the reviewer and the equipment provider will help. For if he had known you don’t even have a pair of balance cables w you, why not send you one? Or is he not giving you enough time to do a better review where you can so more comparisons and generate more thoughts rather than what seems like some some passing comments? The ending clap. Feels like a weak pat on the back and some consolation for Musician. I am also a long term user of the Chord Hugo TT. I own both. I actually find the pegasus, at that price, pretty astounding. But R2R is something that needs some getting used to, and 200-300 hrs of breaking in. It is not as bassy as the Chord as some has pointed out. But the Pegasus’ other qualities, can be quite a revelation at that price point.

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому +4

      I tested this £1k dac with £15k active speakers so a pretty high end pair of speakers with a pre amplifier that only had single ended connections. I own about 5 sets of high end balanced cables so it wasn't anything to do with that. Yes I didnt open the dac because I wasn't sure what screws to remove and didnt want to damage the DAC by mistake - showing the inside is nice but not really meaningful for Sound or features and there are photos of the inside readily available already.
      I compared the Pegasus to the best standalone dac at the price point the Chord Qutest and to other DACs as well to gauge its performance.
      I was also honest about these aspects in the review I could have just bullshitted or glossed over these things.
      I have since tested about 7 other R2R dacs for both single ended and balanced and I am pretty confident I got this review right

  • @gordonmacfarlane4348
    @gordonmacfarlane4348 3 роки тому +4

    Interesting comments on balanced vs single ended signal transmission. Not everyone believes balanced is better in terms of a domestic audio system. Some folk feel balanced output has a less natural sound. In studio's with long cable runs and lots of electronics with less than great power supplies balanced signal transmission is a must at home this may not be the case.

    • @charlienyc1
      @charlienyc1 2 роки тому

      I've never heard this argument before. I thought it was common knowledge balanced is superior. Coming from the pro audio world, I always opt for balanced connections. Anything less is exactly that: less.

  • @lucvandevyver3869
    @lucvandevyver3869 3 роки тому +2

    It looks like his a rebranded or copied Denafrips DAC

  • @leetronix
    @leetronix 3 роки тому +3

    I think the sound is subjective to personal taste but overall this sounds an impressive DAC for the price, nice video.

  • @johnrobins795
    @johnrobins795 3 роки тому +3

    Thank You so much...As a Reviewer, it's a different and perhaps more enjoyable place to know your role is about distilling information, whereas a Consumer's stomach might churn over when something has come along better just after money was invested in a comparative component. This was quite informative in that regard, but hopefully those whom are in such a place can just enjoy the knowledge and regret the purchases they made🎶

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому +3

      Its hard to present things in a way with any passion that then potentially doesn't offend someone who just spent their hard earned cash on an alternative product, thats not an easy one to control :)

  • @net_news
    @net_news 3 роки тому +3

    I had similar results comparing the Pegasus to the Chord Mojo. Mojo has better punchier bass, Pegasus better imaging and soundstage. I really don't know which is better DAC... I like both but I think the Mojo is a better deal.

    • @OrganNLou
      @OrganNLou 3 роки тому +2

      You will find over time, the Chord dacs to be somewhat "bleached" out sounding. R2R dacs are a special breed indeed.

  • @geoffreydebrito7934
    @geoffreydebrito7934 2 роки тому +1

    Another fine, comprehensive review. Reportedly, the XLR outs are superior to the RCA outs. And the bass has been reported to improve over time. Coupling the Pegasus with MusiCian Audio's MDP-2 Digital Player (SD Cards) through their i2s connections and out through the Pegasus' XLR outputs is the optimum of which the DAC is capable. FWIW, 6Moons Sarajan Ebaen strongly advocates for SD Card playback declaring it much superior in his opinion to streaming files over a network, thus the suggestion of the MDP-2. Given that both the Pegasus and MDP-2 are from the same company, the i2s connections are compatible.

  • @gw61
    @gw61 3 роки тому +3

    I have $1200 rca cables and $125 balanced interconnects. I much prefer the balanced cables with my musician Pegasus. Very sad you didn’t use them in your review.

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому +1

      The Pre amp I had only accepted RCA phono, so it wasn't my choice, it was a necessity

    • @funkurs
      @funkurs 3 роки тому +2

      @@PursuitPerfectSystem Great video! The Pegasus really does sound it's best with balanced connections. I've A/B'ed them using the same cables (terminated with Furutech RCA's vs Neutrik XLR's) and headphone amp.
      I love the fact you mentioned this during the review and that you used SPIDF for the comparison. If you had used the USB inputs, I suspect you would have found a larger delta between the 2 dacs. The Pegasus' USB input is not as good as the Qutest from my own auditioning experience. (I chose the Pegasus over the RME and Qutest for headphone listening).

  • @robertkirkpatrick1826
    @robertkirkpatrick1826 Рік тому

    Does anyone know whether this dac allows the dolby encoding to survive? For example from dolby access software on my pc?

  • @robertm8518
    @robertm8518 3 роки тому +1

    Great review, I especially like the comparison to the Qutest. Being that I am a big Qutest fan…

  • @Ali_Shafai
    @Ali_Shafai 3 роки тому +1

    I would like your impressions on the Denafrips Ares 2.

  • @milkman100001
    @milkman100001 3 роки тому +4

    ps audio dac! your the reason i bought one..

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому

      Hope you love it Dean :)

    • @milkman100001
      @milkman100001 3 роки тому +1

      @@PursuitPerfectSystem so much so ive ended up in purchasing the ps audio bhk 250 and ive just put an order in for the ps audio bhk pre amp too. thanks for the vids pal. any chance you could do one on the ma pl500's .i have the 300's and im thinking to upgrade to them. just wondering if you've ever had the chance to listen to them?

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому

      @@milkman100001 I haven't heard the 500 - it would be fun to review them but oh boy the logistics of it, not easy or fun

  • @mrrocknroll84
    @mrrocknroll84 3 роки тому +1

    If you stream through your computer, you need to try jplay. It costs 100eur. What it does is it removes processes that aren't necessary for audio and thanks to that reducing jitter. I run a Sotm USB pcie filter card..and with jplay switched on, you hear layering, background, realism and a better bass. Less bloated. Jplay classic is fine. If you haven't tried it, you should give it a go😉

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому +2

      I have been using jplay for about 10 years :) and jcat products check the video description box

  • @tolisseretis9160
    @tolisseretis9160 3 роки тому +1

    Very nice analytic , i have 10 years old dac + preamplifier antelope zodiak gold it's worth upgrading my system with this or something else, thanks

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому

      I dont know - best to listen to a couple and see if you think its worth it

  • @ibrashow79
    @ibrashow79 3 роки тому +1

    In the end, what is better for you? The Qutest or Pegasus? I look that we have the same amplifier ATC SIA 2, I have JBL 4319 Speakers, I looking for analogically and war sound, but with a deep bass and good dinamic. Thanks in advance

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому +1

      Its not what's better to me that's important its what's better to you - I explain how they are different so hopefully its helps you pick which is best for you :)

    • @ibrashow79
      @ibrashow79 3 роки тому

      @@PursuitPerfectSystem So difficult choice.. On the one hand I like the more natural and less digital sound, but I would not want to give up important bass and a more substantial timbre .. I currently own a Topping D90 MQA, an excellent dac, but too cold and digital for my taste, for this I am undecided between the Qutest and the Pegasus..

  • @ciaoamore2634
    @ciaoamore2634 2 роки тому

    i got one 2 weeks ago burn 25-7, it is so organic NOS on, i learn to appreciate R2R, bryston DAC is now back up in the case something go wrong with Pegasus and back from service.I hope it will not, just in the case. Pegasus delivers to magneplan 1.7 w upgrade crossovers so natural notes, even youtube music sound fantastic.

  • @waynegeske3158
    @waynegeske3158 2 роки тому

    The Musician Pegasus is clearly a better DAC in my system when compaired to my Chord Cutest. After a few hours of listening there's no fatigue with the Pegasus and I can't say the same about the Cutest. Use i2s and compare them again. It's not even close!

  • @JingoLoBa57
    @JingoLoBa57 3 роки тому +1

    Wish you'd opened it up... Let's see the internal build and design choices...

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому

      I couldn't tell what was the chassis screw and what was doing something else - so I wasn't confident taking the lid off otherwise I would have done

  • @klepp19
    @klepp19 2 роки тому

    Hi Terry,
    Would you say the Pegasus is smoother and warmer sound than the bigger brother Aquarius. Also which of the two is more liquid sounding with airier highs?

  • @supes323
    @supes323 2 роки тому

    From reading the below comments I understand you have since tried other R2R Dacs. Can you confirm your findings and how does the Pegusus compare?

  • @Coneman3
    @Coneman3 3 роки тому

    I don’t know why hardly anyone has gone for the Jay’s Audio DAC2 Signature, especially as their CD transports are killer. There are some reviews online but not one on YT. I do suspect their transports are their best product but for vfm they are both superb.

  • @johenkay1129
    @johenkay1129 3 роки тому +1

    So you tested the dac in sub optimal conditions (non 4 pin xlr) and it was close to the qutest? Have you tested it with a balanced cable yet?

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому +1

      Sub optimal in the sense of not using balanced connections but I used the dac with £15k World renowned speakers in a room with good acoustics and very good system foundation so also not really that sub optimal if you see what I mean
      It was different to the qutest so not close sounding totally different but I liked it for what it does well.
      Yes I used it recently for a musician audio andromeda headphone review but it had to go onto other reviewers

    • @johenkay1129
      @johenkay1129 3 роки тому

      @@PursuitPerfectSystem I see, the reason why I ask is because like you said, 4 pin xlr would have been the best way to test the pegasus, and since it's going against dac's above it's price range that would have been more "fair" in my opinion. But since you are forced to use rca's for the qutest, I see why you would choose to use rca's for the pegasus. But if you used the optimal connections for both the qutest(rca) and the pegasus(xlr), I feel it would have given much needed insight for someone who is trying to purchase between the two. Other than that, great review. Look forward to more content. Thank you.

    • @charlienyc1
      @charlienyc1 2 роки тому

      @@johenkay1129 Line level XLR connections have three pins, not four. You'll find four pins on balanced headphone connectors, however.

    • @johenkay1129
      @johenkay1129 2 роки тому +1

      @@charlienyc1 Yep, you are right. Sorry about that.

  • @Mr.Rude.
    @Mr.Rude. 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the interesting and informative (as usual) review. Out of interest, did MA give you instructions not to compare it to Denafrips, like the 'strange' encounter I remember they had with Next Best Thing Studio?

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому +3

      If I had a Denafrips I would have compared it to it - but I don't so I couldn't. I had 4 different DACs here but only 1 around the same price for a fair comparison and that is what I used

    • @matldn2697
      @matldn2697 3 роки тому

      @@PursuitPerfectSystem Have you tried it with the £800 Topping DAC?

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому +1

      @@matldn2697 no only the qutest in this kind of price range

    • @matldn2697
      @matldn2697 3 роки тому

      @@PursuitPerfectSystem OK. I have seen a Topping DAC for about £800. Reviewer said it is far more detailed but not built that well.

    • @wongsy1704
      @wongsy1704 3 роки тому +1

      Not sure what this Jay was alluding to but I was using the Denafrips Ares 2 and upgraded to the Pegasus which bettered the Ares 2 in all respects. A fairer comparison would be with the Denafrips Venus. You can only get the full measure of the Pegasus with the i2s inputs and balanced outputs. A great buy and a steal at this price. Thinking of upgrading to Musician's new flagship the Aquarius.

  • @benjwal
    @benjwal 2 роки тому

    Thank you for such a nice review, Could i ask how will i stream wirelessly from phone or a PC

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  2 роки тому

      HI, You cant straight to this dac, you would need something else in-between. If you want to stream wireless I think buying a different product would be a better way to go.

  • @BigChungusthe3rd
    @BigChungusthe3rd Рік тому

    They didn't just send it to you, you got to keep it right?

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  Рік тому

      Nope it went on to someone else after me to review

    • @BigChungusthe3rd
      @BigChungusthe3rd Рік тому

      @@PursuitPerfectSystem good to know thank you. Been hearing about musician audio giving their products to reviewers to keep

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  Рік тому

      @@BigChungusthe3rd not keep sometimes they don’t ask you to ship them on for a while but no review product should be for keep really. Maybe it’s different for reviewers in the states I don’t know

  • @Acura1NSX
    @Acura1NSX 3 роки тому +7

    I've owned this incredible r2r DAC for 2 months now in my high resolution system worth over $70,000 and am completely blown away with the sound quality as well as build quality. Once broken in which is roughly 300 hours, even an $8,000 Bricasti DAC had no advantages over the Pegasus. It beat the Schitt Yggdrasil in overall sound quality with better detail retrieval and a wider soundstage. It also beats the Denifrips Pontus II as well in NOS mode. Count me thrilled, in this case you clearly get much more than you pay for! Amazing.

    • @igorkrajnc5915
      @igorkrajnc5915 2 роки тому

      Hello , what would you say for Musician Aqarius ?

    • @Phoenix_1991
      @Phoenix_1991 2 роки тому

      You actually compared it to the Pontus 2? Could you pleasssssse tell me more about this comparison as I am contemplating the Pontus 2 and no dealer in my country has them to test so I have to go in blind!

  • @pfcompany885
    @pfcompany885 2 роки тому

    Great industrial-tech design!

  • @ramalingam108
    @ramalingam108 3 роки тому

    USB was hard to connect to my MacBookPro, I return my Pegasus and they reimburse me without problem. But when I succeed the sound was very good.

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому +2

      In this instance you could have added a digital to digital converter or DDC improved the sync and sound quality for not a lot of money just in case that helps you or anyone else in the future

    • @ramalingam108
      @ramalingam108 3 роки тому

      @@PursuitPerfectSystem nobody explain that to me before thanks

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому +1

      @@ramalingam108 I will be doing it soon so look out for some videos talking about it :)

    • @cruf4982
      @cruf4982 2 роки тому

      Your first mistake was buying a Mac

  • @justasimplefox
    @justasimplefox 2 роки тому

    I'm considering to buy the Pegasus but my amp has only RCA inputs, can someone inform me what I will be missing by not using the XLR outputs? Thanks

    • @bearclaw5115
      @bearclaw5115 2 роки тому +4

      The RCA's have a lower SNR. On most dacs, the difference between XLR and RCA is small (3-4db or less). On the step down Musician Draco, the difference between the output's is 15db. But the Draco has a weaker output stage than the Pegasus so the difference between the outputs should be lower on the Pegasus. In other words the sound will be cleaner over the XLR's. But you don't have that option no matter what DAC you use, so I'd just enjoy what you can get over the RCA's for now and look at it as a bonus to upgrading your amp later down the line. I'm in the same boat with my Audiolab 6000A.

    • @justasimplefox
      @justasimplefox 2 роки тому

      @@bearclaw5115 thanks, I decided to buy a Topping D70S and am very happy with it (in combination with Atoll IN100)

    • @bearclaw5115
      @bearclaw5115 2 роки тому

      @@justasimplefox I was just looking at the D70S today and got excited about it until I saw they are no longer being made likely due to the AKM fire. I may get one used though.

    • @justasimplefox
      @justasimplefox 2 роки тому

      @@bearclaw5115haha, had the same issue, was lucky to pick up the last one from a shop in Holland. I'm very happy with it! I know this is my final DAC, soundstage is huge and there is a lot detail without any harshness or listening fatigue. Good luck finding one and buy it when you can 🙂

    • @bearclaw5115
      @bearclaw5115 2 роки тому

      @@justasimplefox Sounds good to me! I'm looking, we'll see.

  • @arturmkrtchyan6079
    @arturmkrtchyan6079 3 роки тому

    Nice !!! Good Luck !!!! 💖💖💖

  • @AF-rd2vf
    @AF-rd2vf 3 роки тому +2

    Good review but I also recall you really loving the Directstream DAC. How does it compare to that?

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому +2

      Without having both at the same time I couldn't say and wouldn't like to say.

  • @RyuMasterEX
    @RyuMasterEX 3 роки тому +2

    Maybe the chord sounded louder because of the high output impedance of the pegasus

  • @steverino5054
    @steverino5054 3 роки тому

    Is the metrum onyx worth the extra cost?

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому

      Sounds different

    • @steverino5054
      @steverino5054 3 роки тому

      @@PursuitPerfectSystem So, say a person listens to many styles of music from piano to jazz to folk to hard rock. Which would perform best in that case? Assume neutral speakers in the $3000 range, and an integrated amp around the same price leaning slightly to warm side of neutral. Thanks.

  • @4realesharpe
    @4realesharpe 3 роки тому

    I hate how technology is making everyone think they are a "musician" because the can click a mouse

  • @k-doggy1762
    @k-doggy1762 3 роки тому +2

    I think I'll stick with Ares II or Pontus when time comes to upgrade. There's something not quite right with this brand. Is it a sub brand of Denafrips? Is it a knock off? Plus being essentially a new brand I'm not taking any chances regarding warranty or any issues that may arise.

    • @Audfile
      @Audfile 3 роки тому +2

      Ladder dacs are very old technology.

    • @rainman3269
      @rainman3269 3 роки тому +2

      And a good ladder Dac is hard to beat .... 😉

    • @MusicLover-01
      @MusicLover-01 3 роки тому +4

      This is supposedly better than both the ares II and Pontus. You get the terminator resistors with this.

    • @klepp19
      @klepp19 2 роки тому

      @@MusicLover-01 Are you sure? I think Terminator resistors are in the Aquarius is more likely!

    • @MusicLover-01
      @MusicLover-01 2 роки тому

      @@klepp19 Hey mate, Pegasus 0.005%, Terminator 0.005%, update I bought the Pegasus and no it isn't better than the Pontus 2, not sure about the Pontus 1, possibly not either. Hence it is much more to do with power supply and front end than resistors alone. Terminator has all of those aspects with the better resistors hence why it is virtually end game, Pontus has the better power supply for sure. There is one aspect in favour of the Pegasus, it has dreamy mids, euphoric sounding, more than any other DAC I've tried, however the downside is leading edges are too soft and highs too rolled off, still amazing but too much of a compromise for me.

  • @matsudakodo
    @matsudakodo 3 роки тому

    Hmm...it's a nice looking unit, but if this thing were capable of changing the sound so much, doesn't that mean it's not transparent? Which combination of settings is the most accurate?

    • @mrpositronia
      @mrpositronia 3 роки тому

      It's nice to have the option for two different sounds. Like all these things; which product you buy should come down to the one that suits your tastes. Personally, I like accurate, but accurate makes it less enjoyable to listen to over prolonged sessions, so I require an element of smoothness on top. Therefore, I'd have the oversampling switched on.

  • @TheNaboen
    @TheNaboen 3 роки тому

    Did you have any performance issues? Two other reviewers report various reliability issues

    • @PursuitPerfectSystem
      @PursuitPerfectSystem  3 роки тому +3

      Not with how I used it - spdif in rca out no problems like that

    • @TheNaboen
      @TheNaboen 3 роки тому

      @@PursuitPerfectSystem 👍

  • @waynek1389
    @waynek1389 3 роки тому

    Thanks for nice comparison with Chord one.
    But, even though Pegasus is a nice dac, can’t compare to PS audio direct stream dac, right? Or just difference characters, styles or preferences?

    • @stephencosta6814
      @stephencosta6814 3 роки тому +1

      Why are you comparing a $6000 Dac it should be better it’s six times the amount