Massive Order, Qantas A350 Launch & New Airlines Updates
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
- Qantas is nearing the launch of Project Sunrise flights with its Airbus A350-1000s following an additional fuel tank certification. Meanwhile, Airbus is nearing an order from several Chinese airlines for its A330neo with over 100 units said to be included in the deal. Lastly, Riyadh Air has signed an MoU with Singapore Airlines and Air China to offer codesharing and other initiatives to customers once it launches.
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Nice to see the A330neo get more orders.
It deserves more orders. Great aircraft.
The A330-900neo, which has a maximum range of 7,200 nautical miles, hnas become really attractive to many airlines as replacements for older A330's and even older 777-200ER models.
How much more range does it have compared to a standard A330?
A330ceo are still relatively young in most fleets ,in time A330neo will come through strong and rack up some strong sales.
Especially in Asia.
I think it does deserve more. the 787 and a330neo will be a grand couple pioneering the future
@nickolliver3021 Yea the 787 is very good for longer routes and the a330 for those high density regional routes in Asia
@nickolliver3021 True that, like the 777x and A350. Airlines that can use both will have a strong fleet of airplanes.
The 330neo has generally had bad press, especially in this channel. But it will prove them wrong; the 330neo is an excellent choice for Trans Asian destinations. Less expensive than the 787, it has great operational and environmental qualifications. The Chinese airlines can't go wrong with this aircraft.
Considering Boeing's current problems, it was in hindsight, a wise choice for Qantas to choose Airbus for Sunrise. remains to be seen what sort of restrictions will be enforced on SYD-LHR and whether it turns into the original Singapore 340-500 "business class only, no luggage, no clothes to save weight to make it to destination" or whether the plane truly has the range to fly with a full load. And how passengers will perceive the experience. 20 hours in coach with narrow seats and little seat pitch isn't something someone would look forwards to. Timing of departure/arrival will also matter. Saving 4 hours by skipping a stopover looks good on paper, but it it means you arrive at 04:00 in morning when trains to downtown don't yet work, the cheaper 1 stop might actually be more convenient with at 08:00 arrival.
As a passenger I would much rather travel on a wide body such as the A330 than and huge single isle narrow body such as the A321, even on short routes.
why does Etops exist for narrowbodies on short routes?
@@nickolliver3021I don't know, but it shouldn't
Wide body aircraft are much more comfortable. There's the chance of sitting 4 passengers together, the cabins have more room when walking around and the toilets have more room too. For taller passengers, it makes a big difference.
@@AviationNews777 well it does. It's tbe future. There isn't much difference between a narrowbody and widebody about space. Modern aircraft offer it over previous aircraft they replace.
@nickolliver3021 I can say that, as a taller person, and having been on an A321 NEO earlier this year, I found the toilets and rear galley to be very small. So if passengers like to walk around on longer journeys to avoid DVT etc then this may not be as possible in future. I found the Max to be similar.
The outbound leg for a 5 hour flight was on an A330 and that was much more comfortable. The A321 NEO was used on the return.
Is it likely that manufacturers are focused on having passengers stay in seats more?
At this rate, Airbus should consider making a carbon fibre reinforced plastic fuselage for the A330neo; and keep the rest the same. The wing is new. The fuselage size is what airlines want for that market. The range is incredible. They have learned enough from both the A220 and A350 airframes.
Why? A330Neo has modest investment in an already proven airframe which is light enough now to compete head-on with B787 & hopefully turn a decent profit in the not too distant future. One of it`s strengths is it`s purchase price for the airlines who are either unable or don`t want to spend sums on a more expensive composite build,. I`d suggest Neo has cleverly found it`s niche.
@edwardwilcox6606 Long term, it won't compete very well with the 787, I think. This is a lucrative spot, up from the single aisle market. Once printing parts becomes cheaper, why design a whole new replacement plane when incremental changes can do the trick on a tested airframe design?
@@mandandi There are a lot of A330Ceo`s that will need to be replaced & I think the Neo will pick-up decent orders over time. This prospective Chinese interest is confirmation for me in the attraction in a plane that really doesn`t owe AB much in investment & that will garner interest for airlines that don`t neccessarily want or need `the best`. A330Neo will be a winner for AB & turn a profit sooner than later.
@edwardwilcox6606 I don't question it's profitability, at all. Airbus didn't spend a whole lot, so it's already profitable, i think.
My comments are geared towards continuous improvement and being competitive in the long term.
It is great and may be the best for what some airlines choose it for. That's not in question.
I agree entirely with that. After the JAL A350 accident appears to confirm that carbon composite hulls give more time for passengers to exit in an emergency during a fire, I think that's the way to go. Poor old B777X. All that money for a Tingoose........
Wooow! Airbus is making BILLIONS each year! ❤❤❤
A 330 neo is so underrated. A lot of airlines will be ordering it very soon.
A330neo is getting more orders cause it’s one of few jets that are not booked for 7years to come
Brisbane derserves some Qantas A350s too
100 widebodies is a huge order indeed.
Possibly bigger than what is reported in business mainstream media.
Expect discounts of course.
In short, China's own airlines are not interested in the proposed C929 project, especially when the A330-900neo is easily available.
It is more a case of what can be delivered and when.
@@ianmontgomery7534 That too. It wouldn't be until the early 2030's that the first C929 could actually be delivered.
@@Sacto1654 Yes I doubt the CPC will allow Chinese airlines to not be interested in the C929.
Good On A330neo.Great Video And Info
I wonder if Airbus will re-wing the A330 NEO 2 like the 777X with composites. It would be a good mid-power test for the RR Ultrafan.
Thanks Dj!!
Good morning, so this is how the aviation market will be resolved, but this airline seems to be no joke, Ryad Air, a competitor in Saudi Arabia, is also in Saudi Arabia.
Lot existing A330 are coming for replacement this decade so demand will be more. Some B787 buyers may switch to A330neo as well.
They’d sell more a330neo if they made the fuselage from composite materials
It wouldn`t be viable as it would be hugely costly & would need certification. As it stands A330Neo will do well for AB considering it`s very modest investment & probably hit profitability even before B787 does.
Wen Boeing launched the 787 with huge promises, Airbus was told in no uncertain terms that an update to the 330 which it had proposed was nowhere near enough, so Airbus was sent to design the clean sheet 350 to replace the 330 so it could compete against the 787. (Remember that the original 8-across 787 was meant to replace the 767 and compete against the 330 with much better economy and all composite fuselage).
Problem is that Airbus had already committed to the 330 military refueling so the 330 assembly line would continue. Boeing was same with 767 for military refueling but the 767 was no longer competitive for passenger so that line ended. So Airbus segmented the market between the more affordable shorter range 330 and the long range larger capacity 350.
Since the 330 had already stolen the market from the 767, many airline alredy had 330s so no need to order new ones so nor surprising to see slow sales. The 330neo was a no brainer since Airbus had already done much work on it prior to moving to the 350. So it doesn't need many sales to be profitable and airlines have an affordable equivalent to the 787 for shorter range missions, especially when the 787 deliveries are unprodictable at this time.
Great footage of the a330 neo- a jet less favored with airlines compared to its predecessors
Ok, which Airbus production lines are not booked out for at least five years now? Or even seven years?
The 330 neo is the best candidate. I do not know if and how much it suffers from supply chain issues. Engines are a problem for sure.
The A330neo can definitely use a boost. Possibly, a recent visit by Xi to the EU likely has a role as China is seeking to isolate the US as much as possible from its allies.
There's been an ongoing economic gamesmanship between the US and China, and issues at Boeing has nothing to do with it contrary to the vlogger's comments.
What are you going to infer next, that a Chinese order for the A330neo is an act of aggression towards the US?
Just maybe, the Chinese think the A330neo is a bargain. If its likely to be used by various airlines on networks within China, as other internet sources intimate, then the aircraft will be in competition with itself via several carriers, and so it doesn't have to be as fuel efficient as either the B787 or A350, because its not going to be in competition with them.
Furthermore, this order might come with a Chinese production line (nobody knows yet), and the A330neo is more readily available that its competition. This is much better reasoning that your 'hard cheese', nationalistic attitude.
And I await for you to take this whole stream down as you usually do, should you lose this argument😁😁. Pathetic...........
@@artrandy I don't own the vlog, and I've never deleted anything I've ever written, even when I lose a debate.
Your Airbus passion is understood, even with all the maybes, but that's the whole point. I used the word 'possibly' because we're all speculating here.
Your points would be valid, except for a number of key things:
1. The Chinese aren't buying any aircraft because it's cheaper. Even their C919s have higher list prices than the superior Airbus and Boeing competitors. Politics.
2. The A330 is not immune to supply chain issues, so no, it's not readily available as you say. Sure, delivery would be faster, but probably not timely.
The A330 is popular in Asia, no doubt, but every move made by China is a calculated one, and it tends to be geopolitical.
@@sainnt
"Sure delivery would be faster", you say, just after saying: "its not readily available as you say". Apart from your unbelievable contradiction here, I never said it was readily available anyway, I said: " more readily available than the competition". Please tell me, is that correct or not? Can you bring yourself to agree, or will your ego prevent that?
"The Chinese aren't buying any aircraft because its cheaper," you say. Maybe not when they're buying an aircraft made with their own government's money!! Really, you can do a lot better than this.
Im not getting into a geopolitical argument about China here, its not the place, but just because they apparently don't want the B787, doesn't necessarily mean that there's skullduggery afoot.
The rest of my argument you ignored, as being too difficult to contradict, Im sure.
And of course you don't take your comments and streams down, its entirely my imagination😂😂.......
O think the a330 Neo is expensive so airlines might as well spend a bit more for the a350.
Another good idea is a33of- neo
Project sunrise has already been happening with the 787 so I don’t understand the whole “launch of project sunrise”.
That's Sydney to London right ?
Are you thinking Perth London ? By mistake ?
Is the 330 assembled in China or is China hoping the 330 orders would be built their and China getting insight into building a bigger jet that has export potential vs the 320
Airbus only builds planes of the A320 family in China, but no wide bodies.
I believe only A320 ordered for use in China are assembled there?
@@jl-7992 Correct. The China plant is basically to service local Chinese needs. And it is only assembly. I don't think they manufacture anything there, because Chinese rules imply you need to share the technology. Nevertheless, I am certain some of Airbus technology found its way to Comac. Also because to set up the assembly line, Airbus had to train Chinese engineers at Airbus in France. Once competent, you can expect some of them being recruited to work at Comac. It was the same with my company. We have proprietary technology, and to be able to operate in China, we had to divulge that technology. Duly copied and later, we found Chinese companies competing for work with tools based on our design. Obviously, the technology evolves, and the Chinese companies used older equipment, but at prices that made them very attractive. Unfortunately.
Pretty sure the A330s delivered to China get their interiors fitted in China
Pretty sure the A330s delivered to China get their interiors fitted in China
20 hours??!!!
Well, QF has long been able to fly to JFK and LHR, just not nonstop.
20 hour flight in a tanker no way!
How many?
100+ neos, as reported all over the internet, last week.........
in video description: meanwhile, Airbus is nearing an order from several Chinese airlines for its A330neo with over 100 units said to be included in the deal.
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China go with the Airbus A330neo all the way !! It's safer then Boeing Aircrafts.
Never will fly no alcohol
Я бы лучше летал на TY 214-300 или MC 21-200-300, чем на аэробусе.
The 787 hugely succesful? ... Based on what?
Aviation experts aren't sure if all 787s order ever made make this program profitable. (oders. not deliveries)
It's broken even in Feb so we shall see how she goes with profitability
@@nickolliver3021yes despite 787 selling huge the program took an insane money to make it
Massive B787 sales keeping a large Boeing workforce employed. The airlines love it for it`s economics, comfort, & expected duration of service. It`s true Boeing have had problems but as with many `firsts` you get difficulties which are costly but I`d suggest they will hit profit as this aircraft will be around for a long time.
@@edwardwilcox6606 delivering 2,000 airplanes without a profit, isn't normal for any firsts. There is no other airplane that failed this badly with so many deliveries.
Even the A380 program did better than the 787 with 1,000 deliveries!
@@edwardwilcox6606
After the number made it should be making a profit by now. The A350 was 6 years ago. Its clearly being undersold, and that's down to the competition, especially that of the A330neo, which I think Boeing hoped to kill off by reducing the price of the 787 to steal its orders. I hope Boeing wont be too disappointed if this Chinese order is confirmed.
In terms of number sold, the B787 will go down in history as a big success, but Boeing's shareholders wont see it that way........
Could you use an AI assistance to rewrite your script in the future? It's always 8+ minutes of excess words for 5 minutes of content
Great idea. Good info but always so wordy.
I can only watch this channel on mute with subtitles on which I look at occasionally
Please subtitle in French. Your English is too much quick we couldn’t follow
Much too wordy. Why use 1 when 5 can stretch the video length I guess.
The A330neo has been picking up steady sales in recent times. For an older generation aircraft such as this to pick up 300+ orders v the 787 is exceptional and well worth while as far as Airbus are cocerned. You have the Wrong idea on what the A330 is about. You sometimes come across as wee bit "wet behind the ears' with some of your topics, despite your obvious passion of aviation
The 330 Neo will pick up more orders once airlines start retiring the 330 ceo’s
@@deanwood1338 Why would you order the A330 when the A350 or 787 exists…
@@JohnGuidetti751 the 330 has advantages in other areas. The Neo is designed for faster turnaround and has had changes to landing gear etc so it can land more often before maintenance. All this means it can be used on short to medium high density routes more efficiently than its competitors
Dodgy planes and dead whistle blowers