I'm pleased that you are hoarding soon to be discontinued tools. Maybe they will be used, or not, but they can always be a reference from our future. Somebody needs to be collecting these, and I'm glad it's you.
The pouch way of storing various tools is great if you're a traveling mechanic. More easy to pack and keep all in one place. But sure, if you work at one place only such as a factory or some sort of plant, a stand or other solutions may be a better option.
Great review as usual. I work as a agri mechanic and most of my everyday tools are either German or French but I have to say German quality wins every time!!! Maybe a tool box tour in the near future?
I'd love to see a follow up to the cannon plug pliers describing how well they work. I do a lot of work with those mil connectors and all the US-made slip joint cannon plug pliers I've tried are a hassle to use. Most of the time you're better off getting some gloves and breaking a sweat.
In the german description of these pliers Knipex advertises them to use for: -oil filter change -plastic piping (PVC for example) -sink traps (here in Germany mostly made of chrome plated metal if the trap is exposed and not covered by a closet). -round coupling nuts -Cannon connectors That's a Cannon connector: de.farnell.com/itt-cannon/ms3106f20-27p/rundstecker-kabelmontage-14pol/dp/3905044 So mostly for applications with sensitive surfaces which you don't want to damage. But here's the english website for the product: www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=art_detail&isMobile=&parentID=1368&groupID=2327&artID=34582 The trap application is where the pliers got their name from, a trap is in german a "Siphon".
Those Pliers Wrenches sting a bit even when they're on sale, but a pair of them in a few key sizes are lovely in certain applications -- especially if you don't want to mar up copper and brass..
You mentioned the normal practice of hogging out the bulk of the end plates for the screwdriver holder... another reason for doing so (other than the weight saving you referred to) would be it would sit better on uneven surface with 4 points of contact instead of the two ends. On the same point, sometimes heavier is better for these things as they are less inclined to move about during use. I love your vidz, by the way.
Cannon plugs are pretty much the standard in aviation, even in new planes. Those pliers are something I have eyed for a while, so I will be interested in seeing what you think of them.
I worked on a system once that used ARINC 600 connectors, but that was sort of a special case because there were requirements for time it takes to swap out components. Those connectors are about 20-50X times the cost of the regular circular style, which is why they never really caught on I believe.
My Gedore VDE screwdriver set has been going strong for years, still most are in good shape. Going to replace them soon tho cause i like the new handle style a lot better then the old ones, already have a PZ set of those. Always amazes me tho how many different handle styles Wiha has but these dont look like the classic line cause the handles are a lot more square as on the ones you have there it seems. I have a few old Wiha's with W-Germany and those are like really square, unconformable square.
Just a small info. The fact that Gedore uses UNIOR (the Slovenian company in question) outsourced screwdrivers for its brand was known to me for some time but.... The thing is UNOR screwdrivers are kind of crappy, most people here agree with that. I am from Serbia, we used to be part of the former Yugoslavia and the same Slovenian factory was part of that state, back then the tools where of very good quality (based on peoples comments), now, not so much. Additionally I heard that UNIOR it self buys thing, including screwdrivers from an Italian company, cant remember the name. Maybe they have a special line of screwdrivers that are of higher quality, don't know. Their pliers do not have a good reputation here either.
@@miroslavm2503 Yeah far as i know Gedore screwdrivers are made by UNIOR but they are not like standard UNIOR screwdrivers. Gedore, at least the current 3C and VDE series that i own, are made to different DIN's and from different steel molybdenum-vanadium (Gedore) to chrome-vanadium (UNIOR) as UNIOR. I dont own UNIOR branded screwdrivers myself but thats according to the catalogs. I do have a few voltage testers from Gedore and those are like direct branded copies from UNIOR its seems and you can tell they are cheaply made. I bend the tip of the blade one of of those on first use on a simple plastic barrier strip. For me Gedore screwdrivers are the way to go cause i simply get better deals on those. I have Wera and Wiha sets as well but i dont notice any difference in quality compared to Gedore. No clue about UNIOR pliers tho, never had one. I really only use Knipex.
I saw this video yesterday an thought I’d go to KC Tools and buy a set of the discontinued Torx drivers. Last night they were in stock, I should have ordered them, because this morning they were out of stock! Hmmm, you think this video had anything to do with the run on this set of discontinued torx drivers?
@@GermanToolReviews I'd figure out how thin the wall would be. Those screws are pretty close to the edge and that might be the reason they didn't counterbore them. It might look worse with them flush and really close to the edge.
@@cwell2112 it's A micro screwdriver holder, hardly going to be punished for weight? At least make it look right, I.e. precision screwdrivers should have a precision look to what's holding them. If not not keep them in the pouch or like wera have a beautiful holder for them as well.
Wow yes please let us know how those Knipex work out on DTS38999 ( or whatever series you’re using ) connectors. Could really use that - sometimes endurance qual testing or a return from the field makes those connectors hard to torque off without accidentally unscrewing the backshell or something stupid. Didn’t know there were special pliers for that application either!
I will see if I can get the brand name of the ones that I've seen when I do a review on the Knipex ones. I remember they had more rubber-like pads on them and they were self-adjusting so you couldn't apply too much pressure.
Have to brag a little about my latest, German tools, flee market finds, and this is juts the perfect spot for this. I went to a well know flee market, here in Belgrade, Serbia, and I found some great deals that I could't resists (all pliers are with plain grips with the red rubber/plastic): Knipex strong diagonal cutters, 180mm: 14 $ USD. NEW Knipex CoBolts, 160mm: 14 $ USD (a deal that as made along with the diagonal cutters) NEW Knipex needle nose pliers, 160mm: 6 USD, good condition Knipex COBRAs, 150mm: 11(ish) USD, great condition (a deal that as made along with the needle nose pliers) Felo, old series screwdriver, red handle, PH1, 1 USD, NEW Solingen Heavy Duty scissors, 2,5 USD, NEW Wera bits, 7 pieces, 3 USD, NEW (2 of them are the 1/4 inc to 1/4 inc adapters for sockets, standard price is 3-4 USD per piece) No name bit holder with German markings, 1 USD. EDIT (Forgot to mention): Spanners, from size 7 to 11, Gedore, Rasol, Hazet, Wurth: 0.9 USD per piece, Great condition Hex keys, short ones, West Germany made, cant remember the brand, 0.8 USD per piece, NEW and Used Cant be more happier!
I found good reviews for the site on Garage Journal and I ended up buying the wrench set. It's the 26 piece metric 13 series set. Under $300 shipped to from Italy.
I'm pleased that you are hoarding soon to be discontinued tools. Maybe they will be used, or not, but they can always be a reference from our future. Somebody needs to be collecting these, and I'm glad it's you.
I love my plier-wrenches. Actually, I love all my Knipex pliers.
The pouch way of storing various tools is great if you're a traveling mechanic. More easy to pack and keep all in one place.
But sure, if you work at one place only such as a factory or some sort of plant, a stand or other solutions may be a better option.
At this stage, unless KC are giving you, minimum, a 50% discount, you might want to consider naming the videos ‘German Tool Unboxing’
It's all affiliate games....
Great review as usual. I work as a agri mechanic and most of my everyday tools are either German or French but I have to say German quality wins every time!!! Maybe a tool box tour in the near future?
Nice tools my friend😊👍
Have been waiting a while for one of these again! Awesome video!!🤘
Disappointed you didn't use threadlocker and a torque screwdriver to assemble this. Still room for more tool presentations! ;-)
I'd love to see a follow up to the cannon plug pliers describing how well they work. I do a lot of work with those mil connectors and all the US-made slip joint cannon plug pliers I've tried are a hassle to use. Most of the time you're better off getting some gloves and breaking a sweat.
Nice!
I have a full set of Gedore striking base screwdrivers, they are great. Also have a full set of nut drivers.
Good one. Thanks
In the german description of these pliers Knipex advertises them to use for:
-oil filter change
-plastic piping (PVC for example)
-sink traps (here in Germany mostly made of chrome plated metal if the trap is exposed and not covered by a closet).
-round coupling nuts
-Cannon connectors
That's a Cannon connector:
de.farnell.com/itt-cannon/ms3106f20-27p/rundstecker-kabelmontage-14pol/dp/3905044
So mostly for applications with sensitive surfaces which you don't want to damage. But here's the english website for the product:
www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=art_detail&isMobile=&parentID=1368&groupID=2327&artID=34582
The trap application is where the pliers got their name from, a trap is in german a "Siphon".
Loves me a good KCTU. Always a pleasure to see what your latest need or interest is. Many thanks.
Интересная подставка для отвёрток. Спасибо за видео.
I actually like the new Wiha dynamic grip torx screwdrivers, but I have the older ones as well. Do not use torx a hole lot.
Those Pliers Wrenches sting a bit even when they're on sale, but a pair of them in a few key sizes are lovely in certain applications -- especially if you don't want to mar up copper and brass..
You mentioned the normal practice of hogging out the bulk of the end plates for the screwdriver holder... another reason for doing so (other than the weight saving you referred to) would be it would sit better on uneven surface with 4 points of contact instead of the two ends.
On the same point, sometimes heavier is better for these things as they are less inclined to move about during use.
I love your vidz, by the way.
Yeah it probably does help lower the center of mass. I'm so used to working with avionics where we are always removing lots of material.
Rumor has it you been working for harbor freight
Cannon plugs are pretty much the standard in aviation, even in new planes. Those pliers are something I have eyed for a while, so I will be interested in seeing what you think of them.
I worked on a system once that used ARINC 600 connectors, but that was sort of a special case because there were requirements for time it takes to swap out components. Those connectors are about 20-50X times the cost of the regular circular style, which is why they never really caught on I believe.
My Gedore VDE screwdriver set has been going strong for years, still most are in good shape. Going to replace them soon tho cause i like the new handle style a lot better then the old ones, already have a PZ set of those. Always amazes me tho how many different handle styles Wiha has but these dont look like the classic line cause the handles are a lot more square as on the ones you have there it seems. I have a few old Wiha's with W-Germany and those are like really square, unconformable square.
Just a small info. The fact that Gedore uses UNIOR (the Slovenian company in question) outsourced screwdrivers for its brand was known to me for some time but.... The thing is UNOR screwdrivers are kind of crappy, most people here agree with that. I am from Serbia, we used to be part of the former Yugoslavia and the same Slovenian factory was part of that state, back then the tools where of very good quality (based on peoples comments), now, not so much. Additionally I heard that UNIOR it self buys thing, including screwdrivers from an Italian company, cant remember the name. Maybe they have a special line of screwdrivers that are of higher quality, don't know. Their pliers do not have a good reputation here either.
@@miroslavm2503 Yeah far as i know Gedore screwdrivers are made by UNIOR but they are not like standard UNIOR screwdrivers. Gedore, at least the current 3C and VDE series that i own, are made to different DIN's and from different steel molybdenum-vanadium (Gedore) to chrome-vanadium (UNIOR) as UNIOR.
I dont own UNIOR branded screwdrivers myself but thats according to the catalogs. I do have a few voltage testers from Gedore and those are like direct branded copies from UNIOR its seems and you can tell they are cheaply made. I bend the tip of the blade one of of those on first use on a simple plastic barrier strip.
For me Gedore screwdrivers are the way to go cause i simply get better deals on those. I have Wera and Wiha sets as well but i dont notice any difference in quality compared to Gedore. No clue about UNIOR pliers tho, never had one. I really only use Knipex.
I saw this video yesterday an thought I’d go to KC Tools and buy a set of the discontinued Torx drivers. Last night they were in stock, I should have ordered them, because this morning they were out of stock! Hmmm, you think this video had anything to do with the run on this set of discontinued torx drivers?
Wiha Dura bits are the top of the line bits coated with tungsten and sadly being discontinued from what I can see.
With all that machining you would at least think they would countersink the allen key studs? Doesn't look right the way they are proud on top.
Maybe I will get one of the machinists at work to try that for me.
@@GermanToolReviews I'd figure out how thin the wall would be. Those screws are pretty close to the edge and that might be the reason they didn't counterbore them. It might look worse with them flush and really close to the edge.
@@GermanToolReviews Ask with style, to fit DIN EN ISO 14581:2013 ones. 😎
I need to talk to a therapist about why I remembered that number….
@@cwell2112 it's A micro screwdriver holder, hardly going to be punished for weight? At least make it look right, I.e. precision screwdrivers should have a precision look to what's holding them. If not not keep them in the pouch or like wera have a beautiful holder for them as well.
Wow yes please let us know how those Knipex work out on DTS38999 ( or whatever series you’re using ) connectors. Could really use that - sometimes endurance qual testing or a return from the field makes those connectors hard to torque off without accidentally unscrewing the backshell or something stupid. Didn’t know there were special pliers for that application either!
I will see if I can get the brand name of the ones that I've seen when I do a review on the Knipex ones. I remember they had more rubber-like pads on them and they were self-adjusting so you couldn't apply too much pressure.
Have to brag a little about my latest, German tools, flee market finds, and this is juts the perfect spot for this. I went to a well know flee market, here in Belgrade, Serbia, and I found some great deals that I could't resists (all pliers are with plain grips with the red rubber/plastic):
Knipex strong diagonal cutters, 180mm: 14 $ USD. NEW
Knipex CoBolts, 160mm: 14 $ USD (a deal that as made along with the diagonal cutters) NEW
Knipex needle nose pliers, 160mm: 6 USD, good condition
Knipex COBRAs, 150mm: 11(ish) USD, great condition (a deal that as made along with the needle nose pliers)
Felo, old series screwdriver, red handle, PH1, 1 USD, NEW
Solingen Heavy Duty scissors, 2,5 USD, NEW
Wera bits, 7 pieces, 3 USD, NEW (2 of them are the 1/4 inc to 1/4 inc adapters for sockets, standard price is 3-4 USD per piece)
No name bit holder with German markings, 1 USD.
EDIT (Forgot to mention):
Spanners, from size 7 to 11, Gedore, Rasol, Hazet, Wurth: 0.9 USD per piece, Great condition
Hex keys, short ones, West Germany made, cant remember the brand, 0.8 USD per piece, NEW and Used
Cant be more happier!
you should take a look at unior screwdrivers and their tools.. they are either a good quality brand.
4 chamfers and CSK bolts and that holder would be much better
That stand looked like a used one with that dirt and with those scratches.
Do a tool collection video!
With a simple drill jig , made with either manual or cnc, you could mass produce the driver holder . Really that job is very simple
Hello, I am from Germany. Is it the case that you like to buy German tools? do you have a particularly good reputation?
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Made in Slovenia? Maybe UNIOR TOOLS?
Oplast.
Those Wiha Torx Power drivers are sexy as😘
please do a tool box tour from south Africa
Ditto to John ONiell
Pleas do a video on American made VIM tools
Not exactly relevant for a channel named "German Tool Reviews".
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Have you ever ordered from the website Misterworker.com ? I am thinking about buying some Stahlwille wrenches from them that are on sale.
Storm Silagy I’ll have to check them out.
I love looking on KC Tool but the prices on ChadsToolBox are so much better I normally buy from them.
I found good reviews for the site on Garage Journal and I ended up buying the wrench set. It's the 26 piece metric 13 series set. Under $300 shipped to from Italy.