FIBA Rule Changes - Travelling and the '0' Step

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
  • Check out this short video on the new FIBA rule changes pertaining to travelling calls and the implementation of the Control '0 Step'. This rule is now in effect for our Kilsyth Domestic Competitions and all VJBL games.

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  • @346Jake
    @346Jake 6 років тому +1329

    harden will go travel the world with this rule..

    • @rbeast7631
      @rbeast7631 5 років тому +11

      boy, fiba rule doesn't apply in nba. nba is an intertainment.

    • @God-my5tu
      @God-my5tu 5 років тому +11

      @@rbeast7631 it's a joke

    • @nazox7871
      @nazox7871 5 років тому +1

      r/woooosh

    • @IL0VEB00BIES
      @IL0VEB00BIES 5 років тому

      Steal Hart real

    • @tvloveras1057
      @tvloveras1057 5 років тому +1

      harden the traveler

  • @vivektripathi1511
    @vivektripathi1511 5 років тому +120

    I mean i came here to clear my confusion and guess what i am more confused now🤣🤣🤣😅😅

    • @p.k.viktor
      @p.k.viktor 3 роки тому

      start from beginning.

    • @takisap143
      @takisap143 7 місяців тому

      Yes. Its more confusing. Was jordans move a travel or nah? Why did it say its legal?

    • @user-us3xi7se5b
      @user-us3xi7se5b 6 місяців тому

      These are FIBA rules, which are slightly different than the NBA travel rule, but these refs are something else. They can't even get their own rules right😂

    • @zanderbgood
      @zanderbgood 2 місяці тому

      @@takisap143 when this game occurred, the moves were illegal. (2016 Olympic games).
      This video package was released ahead of the 2018 rule change - its highlighting what was once a travel, but is now legal.

  • @captainlennyjapan27
    @captainlennyjapan27 6 років тому +27

    This makes so much more sense because technically, you can easily move to a dribble after 0 step

  • @donbrogoy7128
    @donbrogoy7128 5 років тому +138

    Harden left the chat

  • @dyrektorscut
    @dyrektorscut 5 років тому +385

    Simple, stop making it a big deal.
    NBA = Not a travel
    FIBA = Travel

    • @iu2
      @iu2 5 років тому +27

      Actually, in the NBA those are technically traveling violations, but they are not called, except in rare instances.

    • @xelsydmai8212
      @xelsydmai8212 5 років тому +3

      Definitely the other way around...

    • @jaceh4942
      @jaceh4942 5 років тому +28

      @@iu2 that's what I was going to say. FIBA is making the right calls. NBA just let's it slide. I'm honestly glad they're doing it because us Americans have gotten so out of hand with our "2-step-rule". Some people literally go from the three point line to the basket without dribbling and still dont get called for a travel.

    • @iu2
      @iu2 5 років тому +10

      @@jaceh4942
      Thanks! I'd say someone travels in about 50% of the possessions, especially when they bring the ball up right after a score. Also, the free throw shooter ALWAYS stepping over the foul line when shooting free throws. The ball has to hit the rim before the shooter can step on or over the line. Lebron James does this often, although he's doing it less with the Lakers. Isaiah Thomas is probably the biggest violater....because he's so short.

    • @dwaynecarter9219
      @dwaynecarter9219 5 років тому +1

      They are called every time you touch the ball with 2 hands you cant dribble again.

  • @wzdom852
    @wzdom852 6 років тому +505

    This shit doesn't make any sense. I'm lost. I'll just continue to play how i used to play.

    • @rubenpalacios6762
      @rubenpalacios6762 5 років тому +4

      Bra your not the only one .

    • @tru_rjg8362
      @tru_rjg8362 5 років тому +12

      Don't count steps into ball pick up and then count

    • @bronson9953
      @bronson9953 5 років тому +43

      Bro actin like he got fiba refs breathing down his neck

    • @miguep7077
      @miguep7077 5 років тому +14

      So in the NBA you got the gather step so you go (step 0, step, 1 and 2), in fiba you can only do step 1 and 2. That's why it was a travel. Harden would have more turnovers than points in fiba for travelling hahah

    • @sabahbubbler
      @sabahbubbler 5 років тому +1

      No gather step basically. Some lob pass you the ball, and you catch it you have to dribble immediately.
      In nba, you can gather step. E.g lob pass, hands catch ball same time left foot move, right foot move then left foot move again it's ok. In fiba that's a travel

  • @TheGU1T4RFR3AK
    @TheGU1T4RFR3AK 6 років тому +429

    NBA players travel so much, they might start playing with luggages

    • @christianrobertson5529
      @christianrobertson5529 5 років тому +7

      honestly it makes no difference if it's not a layup or post move. If it's just an inbound pass from the other side who cares. But NBA is more fun to watch

    • @sgtjohn4321
      @sgtjohn4321 4 роки тому

      You know nba players are the best in the world right doofus

    • @TheGU1T4RFR3AK
      @TheGU1T4RFR3AK 4 роки тому +3

      @@sgtjohn4321 best travellers

    • @sgtjohn4321
      @sgtjohn4321 4 роки тому +1

      TheGU1T4RFR3AK you probably didn’t even know what a Gather step is, go look it up the come back, also they ARE the best in the world no other country comes remotely close

    • @TheGU1T4RFR3AK
      @TheGU1T4RFR3AK 4 роки тому

      @@sgtjohn4321 they been travellin all the way to DisneyWorld

  • @hoopstalkcentral
    @hoopstalkcentral 6 років тому +633

    only 2 steps after you carry the ball

    • @redhotchilipeppers38
      @redhotchilipeppers38 6 років тому +12

      Amber Spirit, thanks for letting us know 😂

    • @acommenter8603
      @acommenter8603 6 років тому +19

      I did not know bro thanks to you i know how to play basketball

    • @carinacarmo4788
      @carinacarmo4788 6 років тому +1

      Amber Spirit I

    • @5thgen691
      @5thgen691 5 років тому +4

      Dropping knowledge God bless you

    • @legacyofmocarony2944
      @legacyofmocarony2944 5 років тому

      yeah dude, you live in old world! time by time everything changed

  • @CoachAllen76x
    @CoachAllen76x 5 років тому +6

    Thank you! The explanation was simple, short and sweet!

  • @alexchro
    @alexchro 5 років тому +29

    Zero step my ass. That's what bad dribblers did my time and it was traveling.

    • @penemuelwatcher2378
      @penemuelwatcher2378 5 років тому +2

      It's not our time anymore though...
      Times are a'changin'

    • @alexchro
      @alexchro 5 років тому +7

      @@penemuelwatcher2378 then it's another game. Being able to do one more step it's a huge difference in the nature of the game.

    • @BGLoscar
      @BGLoscar 5 років тому +4

      I'm only 27 but from where I grew up, or at least as far as the league that I was in ( not the whole country ), we had this "FIBA" rule, as in we have to dribble first before we make a step.. Or else, the ref will call it as travel... When we're in bounding the ball, the ball must touch the receiving ( or another player ) player first before the passer steps in the court or else it will be called for lane violation..

    • @thomaskim7004
      @thomaskim7004 4 роки тому

      I can link you video right now of dr j utilising the gather step before going up for a layup if you want but he’s just a “bad dribbler” right?

    • @alexchro
      @alexchro 4 роки тому

      @@thomaskim7004 share the link.

  • @nedsrb5224
    @nedsrb5224 6 років тому +73

    Dunk by Jordan is absolutally travelling ( by FIBA rules), and the second one is legal.

    • @bestbronzethreshna6274
      @bestbronzethreshna6274 6 років тому +19

      fiba just changed it so that one is legal, people dont understand the concept of waiting to catch a pass it seems ;/

    • @nedsrb5224
      @nedsrb5224 6 років тому +2

      Best Bronze Thresh NA
      I dont know if they changed something now but, by FIBA rules, you must hit the ball to the ground before start walking. In NBA you could make one step and then release the ball from the hand!!!

    • @animefilm5756
      @animefilm5756 6 років тому +6

      Ned Srb they changed it

    • @revirdkcalb
      @revirdkcalb 5 років тому

      @@nedsrb5224 So, you can't take two steps then start dribbling?

    • @nedsrb5224
      @nedsrb5224 5 років тому

      Revird Kcalb
      Not in Europe!!!

  • @alfandifirmansyah9408
    @alfandifirmansyah9408 5 років тому +146

    We need this referee on nba

  • @brunokaracic4937
    @brunokaracic4937 6 років тому +12

    Jordans move is a travel in Europe.You must first make a dribble and than you can do steps.Also if you take 2 steps while you are running and make a layup, its not a travel.But if you already did 2 steps you cant dribble anymore.I dont know how the rule is in the NBA but in Europe its a travel.

    • @hunterplanty2368
      @hunterplanty2368 5 років тому +1

      You must posses the ball first.

    • @wat4504
      @wat4504 Рік тому

      "must first make a dribble and than you can do steps"
      No thats not the case before. Before the change you can take the 1st step, but cant lift it before the dribble release
      Anways this is legal now cuz of the rule changes

  • @halfwaydowntheroad
    @halfwaydowntheroad 4 роки тому +6

    FIBA Rules Rule. They still know what a travel is. Good job, FIBA. Keep up the good work. Keep fighting the good fight. NBA's turned into Rucker Park and shit.

    • @Dupylo
      @Dupylo Рік тому

      Buddy theres a reason why noone watches european basketball and nba players are some of the most famous people in the world

    • @wat4504
      @wat4504 Рік тому

      The rule change is literally FIBA copying NBA. The hell you talking about

  • @davidsadaiii8051
    @davidsadaiii8051 6 років тому +8

    The NBA needs more refs like that one in the first situation

  • @officialR10_JR
    @officialR10_JR 6 років тому

    Art. 25.2.1: A player who catches the ball while he is progressing, or upon completion of a
    dribble, may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball:
    ▬ If receiving the ball the player shall release the ball to start his dribble before
    his second step.
    ▬ The first step occurs when one foot or both feet touch the floor after gaining
    control of the ball.
    ▬ The second step occurs after the first step when the other foot touches the
    floor or both feet touch the floor simultaneously.
    ▬ If the player who comes to a stop on his first step has both feet on the floor
    or they touch the floor simultaneously he may pivot using either foot as his
    pivot foot. If he then jumps with both feet no foot may return to the floor
    before the ball is released from the hand(s).
    ▬ If a player lands with one foot he may only pivot using that foot.
    ▬ If a player jumps off one foot on the first step he may land with both feet
    simultaneously for the second step. In this situation, the player may not pivot
    with either foot. If one foot or both feet then leave the floor no foot may return
    to the floor before the ball is released from the hand(s).
    ▬ If both feet are off the floor and the player lands on both feet simultaneously,
    the moment one foot is lifted the other foot becomes the pivot foot.
    ▬ A player may not touch the floor consecutively with the same foot or both
    feet after ending his dribble or gaining control of the ball.

    • @weksauce
      @weksauce 2 роки тому

      Yup. And this is only STEPS (not jumps/hops/bounds) in straight-line deceleration. After that, the pivot is established. Unfortunately, most people can't understand how pivot establishment works.

  • @bigpapa1472
    @bigpapa1472 6 років тому +376

    Most current NBA players will get caught that is for sure, especially LBJ

    • @George-Cancel
      @George-Cancel 6 років тому +23

      Big Papa it's legal in the NBA . Only took two step it should be legal every way else too. That's a stupid rule

    • @howdy3751
      @howdy3751 6 років тому +4

      Big Papa OH MY GOD, FINALLY somebody who is seeing what I’m seeing. Ever since Adam Silver took over the NBA has basically abandoned what would have been considered accurate refereeing. Watching highlight videos on UA-cam that are comprised of nothing but missed traveling calls makes me want too shoot myself

    • @mikeruck2888
      @mikeruck2888 6 років тому +4

      Especially Kobe, Kyrie and KD. Biased fans lol

    • @thamir21
      @thamir21 6 років тому +21

      +Big Papa LBJ travels no more or less than anyone else. Dumbass haters

    • @jordanbulls9795
      @jordanbulls9795 6 років тому +3

      yes exactly not just LBJ harden and other players too

  • @jasonmcmillan4373
    @jasonmcmillan4373 6 років тому +6

    Look correct me if I'm wrong by all means, but the video is titled 'rule changes', so people referring to this as 'only legal in the nba' seem to be missing ( I think ) the point. That is, that FIBA is now adopting the two steps before shooting rule of the NBA that would previously resulted in a travelling violation in international games. I'm glad they have if it is indeed the case, because it allows players a lot more flair on offense, & will means less confusion amongst fans.

  • @jaytee3472
    @jaytee3472 6 років тому +384

    Most nba players travel a lot. They have too many steps before the ball was touch.

    • @EST-GTV
      @EST-GTV 6 років тому +40

      Jay Tee Genius! of course you can run before you touch the ball. oh my! what in the world........ The examples are wrong calls by refs

    • @calmdown9094
      @calmdown9094 6 років тому +1

      lbj=miles davis

    • @OthoWilliamsJr
      @OthoWilliamsJr 6 років тому

      You are right, Deandre Jordan had full control of the ball already. Yes, he did travel. He actually double dribbled!
      The Brasilian lady move was legal. She had her last dribble and other leg she working for her. The official must of forgot, even missing the foul call before the 'travel' call was accessed.

    • @OthoWilliamsJr
      @OthoWilliamsJr 6 років тому +2

      Cheung Leo
      Start from the first time Deandre Jordan touched the basketball....
      Jordan controlled the ball, toke two steps or 1.5 steps, bounced the basketball. Then went on to take two more steps, after he bounced the ball with two hands, toke two more steps after the dribble then he dunked the ball. That is called Double Dribble!
      Never ever in basketball could You control the ball take two steps or 1.5 steps and dribble again then taking two more steps. That constitute Traveling and or Double Dribble(Extra Dribble). Funny on You bruh man!!

    • @OthoWilliamsJr
      @OthoWilliamsJr 6 років тому

      Cheung Leo
      You need to "actually play" basketball to Understand the concept also....lol

  • @thequestionmarkanimator757
    @thequestionmarkanimator757 3 роки тому +1

    Me wacthing this : hm yes that's sum rules
    Also me at the court : *starts sprinting to the other basket*

  • @Zwerggoldhamster
    @Zwerggoldhamster 3 роки тому +4

    Even if the gather step rule had been in effect at Rio16, i think the first one would have still been travel. Ok, the pivot foot is one step later, but you still aren't allowed to lift your pivot foot before starting your dribble, right? (Which he clearly does)

    • @Dick_LongJJ
      @Dick_LongJJ 2 роки тому +1

      NO. you are quoting the wrong rule.
      It is a separate rule within 25.2
      If you are both feet on the ground, catching the ball then you are right
      If we are moving and catching the ball, we are to release it before our second step.
      Notice that, it this case, that traveling will not be looking if you are lifting a foot but taking a step.

    • @wat4504
      @wat4504 Рік тому

      That only applies when you're pivoting

  • @NutCrud
    @NutCrud 5 років тому +2

    The girl spinning still picked up her pivot foot on the spin. Definitely a travel even with new rule

    • @absorbcontact
      @absorbcontact 3 роки тому

      You right about the travel violation but your reasoning is wrong. :)
      1st: You allowed to pick up your pivot foot.
      Fiba Rules: "To pass or shoot for a field goal (!!!), the player may jump off a pivot foot, but neither foot may be returned to the floor before the ball is released from the hand(s)"
      2nd: It is a travel violation because WHEN she picks up the ball (gaining control of the ball).
      Fiba Rules: "The first step occurs (!!!) when one foot or both feet touch the floor after gaining control of the ball (!!!)"
      It would be a legal 0 Step (and not a travel) in her case, if she would have planted her swing foot 1st and THEN gained control of the ball by picking it up with both hands. So video-editor is wrong aswell. ;)

  • @JetsetCorn
    @JetsetCorn 5 років тому +1

    As a basketball player traveling is embarrassing lmao

  • @MHoch-bf3vv
    @MHoch-bf3vv 5 років тому +7

    i don't know what are rules in 2019. At my time, one must dribble before the pivot foot is lifted and lay up without landing the pivot foot. And there were no such 0 step thing, only depends on how pivot foot was established

    • @martinmarcinkevic3893
      @martinmarcinkevic3893 3 роки тому +1

      Lol landing on any foot without releasing the ball while in the air attempting a lay up is a travel, or you wanna start playing hopscotch lmao, and cancel dribbling all together just hug the ball and run through the field... Xd

  • @Quan1992
    @Quan1992 3 роки тому +1

    So instead of confusing ppl just say ur allowed three steps. Because if u start counting at 0 ur allowed three steps now.

  • @onboarddatracks4247
    @onboarddatracks4247 5 років тому

    If you pick up the ball and both hands are on it then it will establish a pivot foot which cannot be picked up and brought down again without passing or shooting the ball...the female from Brazil travelled

  • @mykiee5638
    @mykiee5638 5 років тому +8

    I think its good that they discourage the 0 step

    • @martinmarcinkevic3893
      @martinmarcinkevic3893 3 роки тому

      Yeah because eventually there will be - 1 step and - 2 step in addition to 0 step haha, pretty ridiculous if you ask...

  • @gogalevus
    @gogalevus 2 роки тому +4

    Majority of NBA players are brought up on faulty rules. During the Jordan era, the first one would be travel, not the second one.

    • @Taj_Rahine
      @Taj_Rahine Рік тому

      Exactly

    • @40441gogo
      @40441gogo 9 місяців тому

      Jordan did the exact same moves homie

  • @Kevinschart
    @Kevinschart 6 років тому +4

    my issue with the spin move is that players always do a little skip off of the "0" step or that first plant step.

    • @littl3m0nkey
      @littl3m0nkey 2 роки тому

      You would be surprise at how many refs at a young level call that travel. Where im from, there are refs who clearly haven't attended any modern any rules or referee workshops in the past decade because they still call that particular spin a travel.
      But also, one of the reasons they are showing it is not because it is something new, but they're trying to contrast it with the Deandre Jordan move to say "these two zero steps are the same move; these two moves are the same: therefore legal"

    • @wat4504
      @wat4504 Рік тому

      yes thats a travel if the landing happens after ending the dribble

    • @wat4504
      @wat4504 Рік тому

      @@littl3m0nkey but thats indeed a travel if the landing happens after ending the dribble

  • @rokpodlogar6062
    @rokpodlogar6062 6 років тому +6

    Jordan actually double dribbled in my opinion. That first touch to "possession" transition was just too long.

    • @alextortorsiello7938
      @alextortorsiello7938 4 роки тому

      Completely legal😤😤 The video also tells you that it was legal

    • @BintonB
      @BintonB 2 роки тому +1

      what?? there was only one dribble

    • @rafaelchang6570
      @rafaelchang6570 Рік тому

      Gather is important...when is the possession... for me legal

  • @BGLoscar
    @BGLoscar 5 років тому +1

    I'm only 27 but from where I grew up, or at least as far as the league that I was in ( not the whole country ), we had this "FIBA" rule, as in we have to dribble first before we make a step.. Or else, the ref will call it as travel... When we're in bounding the ball, the ball must touch the receiving ( or another player ) player first before the passer steps in the court or else it will be called for lane violation..
    It all goes down to where you were raised or where you came from.. Now that I'm in the US, it's easier to move around. My only problem is stamina LOL... GG

    • @sooperfy
      @sooperfy 2 роки тому

      Same this getting called in pick ups in NC. Lol people call me for travel all the time unless i put the rock down before my first step or at the same time.

    • @BGLoscar
      @BGLoscar 2 роки тому

      @@sooperfy Yeah man, we just really have to adapt to the place where we are playing in.. Most places here don't follow the FIBA rules some places do like yours..

  • @noobsaibot5285
    @noobsaibot5285 4 роки тому +1

    Is a 0 step not a step??? cause it looks just like the 1st and 2nd step. Three (3) steps were taken after the gather. Therefore, YES, it is a massive travel. Correct call

  • @jasonpeng5798
    @jasonpeng5798 5 років тому +1

    So basically you can pivot and take 2 steps at the same time with that spin move rule? What? That's just a travel in every rule book, you can't step off your pivot foot.

  • @dhong168
    @dhong168 6 років тому

    I can't comment on Jordan but the lady traveled. After she established step 0 with left foot and have both hands on the ball already, she did a little hop with her left foot again thus making it a step 1.

  • @drakeaamold3401
    @drakeaamold3401 5 років тому +3

    Its crazy how different basketball is in the 🇺🇸 compared to other countries.

    • @mauricehumphrey545
      @mauricehumphrey545 5 років тому

      It's also crazy how European players continue to suck despite rule changes that are in their favor. It does not matter how you cut it, Europe will never eclipse the USA in basketball. The problem is not endless rule changes, it's talent. I think the Europeans need to stick to soccer because they will always suck at basketball. All FIBA is doing is continually trying to change the rules so sorry-ass European players can keep up with the USA's growing dominance of the sport by superior athletes.

    • @LolzerXD2014
      @LolzerXD2014 5 років тому

      Maurice Humphrey Lol this is the most retarded and xenophobic comment ever

    • @ytanonymity3585
      @ytanonymity3585 5 років тому

      @@mauricehumphrey545 yeah they still win it. @Onabill still USA can win this tour

    • @mauricehumphrey545
      @mauricehumphrey545 5 років тому

      @@ytanonymity3585 The only basketball tournament the Europeans can win is the Basketball World Cup/World Championships because, like the Pan-American Games, the USA always sends bullshit teams to these competitions so they end up losing a lot in them. But, come the Olympics, the Europeans will have no chance because the USA will always send very good teams to those games.

    • @gogalevus
      @gogalevus 2 роки тому

      @@mauricehumphrey545 Jokic is the best player in the world, who btw happens to be European.

  • @edwardmanansala
    @edwardmanansala 2 роки тому

    the pointed out gather step is wrong because he hasn't had full control of the ball yet, the control starts when two hands touch the ball of when the ball over the hand.

  • @BasketBuildPH
    @BasketBuildPH 6 років тому

    The time you catch the ball, thats the "0". two more steps will be allow if and only the time your feet touches the floor same to the time the ball hits the floor.. The 2nd step clearly landed first before the ball, therefore, it is travelling..

  • @tonicocoskocic4979
    @tonicocoskocic4979 6 років тому +1

    In the international basketball you have to driblle before taking steps

  • @mayjust6056
    @mayjust6056 4 роки тому

    c'est un marché! L'arbitre a totalement raison !
    Art. 25.2.1
    Quand le joueur attrape le ballon alors qu'il se déplace ou termine un dribble, il peut faire 2 pas pour s'arrêter, passer le ballon ou tirer:
    - Après avoir reçu le ballon, un joueur doit lâcher le ballon pour commencer son dribble avant de faire son deuxième pas.
    - le premier pas est fait quand un ou deux pieds touche (s) le sol après que le joueur a pris le contrôle du ballon

  • @JAOwasthere
    @JAOwasthere 5 років тому +4

    It is crazy how much NBA players travel.

    • @louiejohnbuluran3
      @louiejohnbuluran3 2 роки тому

      pickup players too. And it's called basketball rules evolution because if we implement the original rules everyone would be playing like Bob Cousy, and all of the NBA players in the 1980's committed several travelling violations.

  • @Lalambz
    @Lalambz 6 років тому

    First was one was a good call in terms of being technical of what a travel is.. deandre took 2 steps b4 the ball hits the floor.. this was the nba rule from 90's and b4

  • @aljawisa
    @aljawisa 4 роки тому +1

    So much obvious traveling they had to loosen the rules, to keep game play exciting and fluid.

  • @isaacl1439
    @isaacl1439 6 років тому

    Here's my rule like if agree, so if you run to rim like DeAndre then control the ball for first step, take the first actual step, then take the last second step. If your going up a defense on a layup and you want to turn around then this is my other rule for more steps, control, first step, pivot for a turn then jump off and score, the last step rule I said would've gotten you four steps, the first rule I said was three steps

  • @gabrielvicente5404
    @gabrielvicente5404 4 роки тому

    So If you catch the hold ball with two hands and step
    Then it'll be a gather step?

  • @oHawkeyeo
    @oHawkeyeo 6 років тому

    I have to say tho that when ur on fast breaks, full speed running ur legs will be moving faster than ur hands while ur hands have to be focused on ball control.

  • @egekrkd7422
    @egekrkd7422 5 років тому +3

    you cant hold the ball after controlling

  • @lastshallbefirst5516
    @lastshallbefirst5516 5 років тому

    Spin Move: she plants her left foot and then spins on her right foot. Her right becomes her pivot, her mistake was coming off that right foot before she passed or shot. That's travel, used to be called back in the day, now they let players get away with it sometimes...it's sad

    • @lastshallbefirst5516
      @lastshallbefirst5516 5 років тому

      When you start your spin and plant that first foot or step..the ball, for split a second, is actually still airborne from your last dribble, then you cradle it..and that's why she's allowed to pivot with her next step, the right, and then land her left = 2 steps, but again, she lifted her right pivot off ground before shooting or passing. So, real spin moves look like they're 3 steps but actually 2

  • @VolturussGames
    @VolturussGames Рік тому

    Aren't we supposed to release the ball before lifting step 1 than before taking step 2 ? I mean that's how i learnt

  • @OthoWilliamsJr
    @OthoWilliamsJr 6 років тому +1

    Deandre Jordan did Travel or maybe double dribbled too but the Brasil player didn't. She still had had her dribble and second step working for her. She was fouled, when she got hit she used her other foot which the official must of forgot that foot was legal still.

    • @wat4504
      @wat4504 Рік тому

      1. no double dribble
      2. he replanted his left foot, which is a same foot hop travel

  • @npciiii
    @npciiii 3 роки тому +2

    Okay so basically it’s legal to travel now

  • @alohatigers1199
    @alohatigers1199 3 роки тому +1

    It’s still amazes me that people still defends the “0 step”, it’s an excuse to travel.

  • @jiranonsiriyaraj728
    @jiranonsiriyaraj728 2 роки тому

    Excuse me, Is illegal for 2021?

  • @joelblakemore
    @joelblakemore Рік тому

    looks to me, 2 sets of dribbling, am old school, what is next 38 inch diameter rims?

    • @wat4504
      @wat4504 Рік тому

      nope its a catch, then a dribble, then a stopping of the dribble

  • @HeavyMetalFudge
    @HeavyMetalFudge 5 років тому +34

    That 0 step at 1:25 left the ground and came back down shortly after, meaning you missed a step (if you're allowed to hop) , don't know how you missed that

  • @ponypower8
    @ponypower8 Рік тому

    1st step, avoid defender then 2nd step land on BOTH feet then bounce off the ground with BOTH feet (pro hop), legal? Or travel?

    • @wat4504
      @wat4504 Рік тому

      yep that's legal
      foot (step 1) -> both feet (step 2)

  • @jerrybieespinosaardina3627
    @jerrybieespinosaardina3627 6 років тому +4

    First of all no one is perfect.
    Referee or player.
    Just do their job.
    Godbless. 😃

    • @marshalcraft
      @marshalcraft 3 роки тому

      i think that a big part people feel like if they get called for traveling its the biggest thing

  • @AmfistomosAtlas
    @AmfistomosAtlas 5 років тому +7

    Can the NBA refs PLEASE travel all the way to Europe and be taught about this...? Thank you

    • @jacknapier3358
      @jacknapier3358 3 роки тому

      It would be boring, you obviously don't play so you don't know the struggle 🤣🤣🤣.

    • @Dupylo
      @Dupylo Рік тому

      Noone would watch basketball then it would be slow like it was in the 60s,
      And thats why noone watches european basketball,
      Basketball evolved, got better. Stop being weird

  • @christophermoody6840
    @christophermoody6840 6 років тому

    I thought once you put 2 hands on the ball you couldn't put it back on the floor. They are saying it was legal?

  • @sooperfy
    @sooperfy 2 роки тому

    This is in transition. Is it different than starting from a triple threat?

  • @xqzd895
    @xqzd895 4 роки тому

    I need to save this video for all the people at the park

  • @julianking7427
    @julianking7427 5 років тому

    The spin was a travel
    Because if u look closely she takes another step after that 0 step but it's hard to see

  • @daneamann6225
    @daneamann6225 5 років тому

    So from the first clip, double dribbles aren’t a thing that exist in FIBA apparently?

  • @thomasfrancomme69
    @thomasfrancomme69 5 років тому +1

    I noticed it and I always asked myself the question about this. Sometimes it's obvious that NBA players travels but referees don't say nothing 🤔

    • @rubeya_4239
      @rubeya_4239 5 років тому

      Thomas FRANCOMME NBA got it own rules

  • @noobsaibot5285
    @noobsaibot5285 4 роки тому +2

    The new travel rule is contradictory. The key subjective point is in the interpretation of the player being in motion. If the player has both feet on the ground when catching the ball "in motion", he may take 2 steps to stop. This is 4 steps with the ball, or 3 steps if one foot is on the ground when catching the ball. Therefore, if the question is posed to me; how many steps are you allowed in basketball? I have to answer with I just don't know???
    This is quite difficult to defend OR impossible, since player like lebron can run in from outside the 3-pt line and dunk it without dribbling. Nice work FIBA
    The rule is brought in for NBA players with bad foot work e.g. lebron and harden.

    • @wat4504
      @wat4504 Рік тому

      its 2 steps after ending the dribble, its that simple

    • @noobsaibot5285
      @noobsaibot5285 Рік тому

      @@wat4504 urrr no. That was the rule. Now you can have up to 5 steps. The 4 I mentioned, and if you land both feet together, you can pick a pivot foot and take a 5th step. The old rules made sense. This is crazy.

    • @wat4504
      @wat4504 Рік тому

      @@noobsaibot5285 First of all, planting both feet is considered a single step
      Second, a nonpivot foot step isn't counted. You can take a million nonpivot foot steps and that doesn't mean you're allowed a million "steps"
      And we only count *after* the dribble has ended. Why do you wanna count both feet at the start when the that's not what the rulebook says?
      Both feet --> Dribble ended -> Step 1 -> Step 2

    • @noobsaibot5285
      @noobsaibot5285 Рік тому

      @@wat4504 that was the rule until recent years. Now you can gather, hop off 2 feet (if you have momentum) onto 2 feet, then choose a pivot foot. That's 5 steps. 2 + 2 + 1 = 5. It is stupid and open to interpretation. Hence the comment.

    • @wat4504
      @wat4504 Рік тому

      @@noobsaibot5285 before u could also pivot after the 2 steps. So if you step your nonpivot foot 5 times that's
      2 + 5 = 7 steps!

  • @bigHubieBrownfan
    @bigHubieBrownfan 5 місяців тому

    How it should be. That spin move is a travel and people are doing it everywhere all the time

  • @아롱이-s1z
    @아롱이-s1z 4 роки тому

    So 1st dunk move and 2nd spin move, both of them is legal??

    • @fadhlallahbaklouti9111
      @fadhlallahbaklouti9111 3 роки тому

      not when they were called. But now FIBA added the zero step rule. So basically it's 0, 1, 2 steps rather than 1, 2 steps now.

  • @broadcaster1027
    @broadcaster1027 6 років тому

    What I have noticed is that referees are still calling traveling for those situations. Clearly they are ignoring the first step rule. What's the problem?

  • @aryapradana16
    @aryapradana16 6 років тому +8

    It mean if you dribble, hold the ball, it reset to 0, right? Then you can take another 2 steps?

    • @michaelprawira2890
      @michaelprawira2890 6 років тому +2

      Arya Pradana yeahh

    • @OthoWilliamsJr
      @OthoWilliamsJr 6 років тому

      Arya Pradana
      No Deandre Jordan did Travel but the Brasil player didn't. She still had had her dribble and second step working for her. She was fouled, when she got hit she used her other foot which the official must of forgot that was legal still.

    • @aryapradana16
      @aryapradana16 6 років тому

      Otho Williams Jr. Yeah, but the new rule say that deandre did not travel

    • @OthoWilliamsJr
      @OthoWilliamsJr 6 років тому +1

      Arya Pradana
      I just looked it up too like you did....
      Well from learning what was taught since I was playing basketball since 10 years old. Deandre Jordan did Travel by the new rule. Slow it down because Jordan had control over the ball. Jordan toke two full steps not 1.5 steps. On that second step the ball was still in his hands, that constitute a travel. That second step had to either shoot or pass the basketball now. Because he then was allowed two more steps after the dribble. Then if not Traveling that is Double Dribble!?

    • @Barakliss
      @Barakliss 5 років тому

      @@OthoWilliamsJr the brazilian clip wasnt a matter of steps. She established a pivot foot but then lifted that pivot foot off the court when she had already moved her other leg
      Ps. I am a bit late ik

  • @atkuhns3562
    @atkuhns3562 6 років тому +31

    the "0" step?! This is what is wrong with basketball today and why no current player will ever be the greatest ever.......the rules have been watered down too much.

    • @atkuhns3562
      @atkuhns3562 6 років тому +4

      You obviously never watch basketball in the 70s and 80s. And don't be such a potty mouth.

    • @atkuhns3562
      @atkuhns3562 6 років тому +6

      The fact that players are allowed to travel, double dribble, flop, and pin the ball against the backboard has watered down the game to the point that it is more like watching a WWE event that an actual sport. It might be a faster game today but it just isnt the same and I feel that it is for the worse. With your way of looking at it why have the players dribble the ball at all? Think of all the amazing moves they could do then.......

    • @atkuhns3562
      @atkuhns3562 6 років тому +2

      Okay, thanks for your time. You are a foul mouth but I appreciate the conversation.

    • @cjzanders5430
      @cjzanders5430 6 років тому +1

      The Women’s basketball has better refs and calls than the NBA.

    • @CarloBtt
      @CarloBtt 6 років тому

      @zeokenX we used to do stepbacks, eurosteps and spin moves with strict rules as you call It, then if a 17 yo kid can do It, why a professional player can't? Why they need to have more permissive rules to do such moves? Aren't they good at It?

  • @personperson3326
    @personperson3326 2 роки тому +2

    All the NBA's. Travel double dripping carrying and a rep don't call it just to get the points on the board. LeBron he always travel.

  • @paypanoy2528
    @paypanoy2528 4 роки тому

    I think both situation happened before the new travelling rule was introduced. Thats why the officials called travelling violation

  • @frutini
    @frutini 5 років тому

    this was the existing rule for decades. the that nba doesn’t call travel doesn’t mean its “legal”

  • @dralger
    @dralger 6 років тому

    You didn't understand step zero.
    Even with step zero both situations are traveling. Step zero is a concept only when the player receives the ball. The rules for start dribbling from standing or stop dribbling are unchanged.
    DeAndre Jordan is still a traveling because he has to start the dribbling before step 1. That is the reason why they changed the rule by introducing a step zero and not by increase the number of possible steps by one.

  • @Blackenedification
    @Blackenedification 4 роки тому +1

    The fucking NBA is ruining the game of basketball with their "new" rules to give the edge to the offense. I hope this will never be changed worldwide.

  • @lilgee9159
    @lilgee9159 5 років тому

    he didn't have to grab the ball with both hands. just control the ball dribbling and then go in for the dunk.

  • @jamaalhorton2343
    @jamaalhorton2343 2 роки тому +2

    He clearly traveled!!

  • @zaxariassklavos9137
    @zaxariassklavos9137 5 років тому +1

    In nba is legal.In europe you must drible first.If you do 2 steps an then dribble the ball goes to the opponent

  • @jakeberube438
    @jakeberube438 5 років тому +3

    Lol second one she picked up the pivot foot, didn't take too many steps

  • @SCROLLpedia
    @SCROLLpedia 4 роки тому +2

    never think about this..because i'm playing Streetball 😂👍

  • @cappy1.890
    @cappy1.890 Рік тому

    Yes,the 0 step is used and all but you still can't take out the fake that he grabed the ball with both hands then dribbled wich make's it a doubble dribble and therefor a travel

    • @wat4504
      @wat4504 Рік тому

      You can still dribble after catching the ball with 2 hands

  • @peanutbutterjelly6963
    @peanutbutterjelly6963 2 роки тому

    20 years ago i did the same. I told coaches its not a travel. Smh now

  • @adnanmalkoc5331
    @adnanmalkoc5331 6 років тому

    The last example, when she planted her foot (the 0 step) she moved it to do the spin. So that was a travel.

  • @pfgonzalezgonzalez
    @pfgonzalezgonzalez 6 років тому

    Wasnt that a double dribble with deandre jordan

  • @pejakenovic805
    @pejakenovic805 5 років тому

    Even experts unable to judge travelling in NBA matches especially when players are running to dunk.
    It needs a balance between fair play and commercial profits...

  • @davidv5595
    @davidv5595 5 років тому

    At this rate giannis is gonna be dunking from the 3 point line.

  • @kalashnikropf7006
    @kalashnikropf7006 5 років тому

    Are you from the USA?

  • @alejandroromero6464
    @alejandroromero6464 6 років тому

    Are you illustrating a 2017 rule with 2016 footage???!!!! I d'idnt get it.

  • @cerimfaris6154
    @cerimfaris6154 5 років тому +2

    On tge Olympic games there are European rules not NBA so Americans dont understand

  • @shyamalannaidu5323
    @shyamalannaidu5323 6 років тому

    What I hate is when u play street bball there's gonna be that one guy who holds the ball, takes a shit load of steps and spins around defenders without bouncing the ball. And then proceeds to score and acts like what he did was totally legal. Dafuq man?!?!

  • @Kiraa186
    @Kiraa186 5 років тому +1

    1:26 the first step was on her left foot

    • @papertooned4226
      @papertooned4226 4 роки тому

      damn, had to scroll so far for this. Thought i was insane, she clearly takes a step

  • @matthew-ox5zx
    @matthew-ox5zx 5 років тому

    Basically in short your allowed a gather step to pick up the ball then you get two steps

  • @steventseng2513
    @steventseng2513 Рік тому

    0:09~0:10 拿到球的瞬間是左腳,再來右腳跨出去的時候,這時候球應該要運下去了,但是還是持球狀態沒運球,再來跨左腳,此時已經走步。

    • @wat4504
      @wat4504 Рік тому +1

      Gathering of the ball isn't when you just touch the ball. It's when you touch the ball with 2 hands (most of the time)

  • @pantelicore2834
    @pantelicore2834 6 років тому

    The poroblem is that nba has different rules and everyone else is playing normal so nba should too

  • @magnacartaholygrail1643
    @magnacartaholygrail1643 3 роки тому

    I knew they gon pick someone as an example for illustration. Bazinga it's deangre jordan lmfao

  • @СлободаИлиСмрт-у1б
    @СлободаИлиСмрт-у1б 6 років тому +10

    What they want to say is that Fiba allowed first step as 0 step or gather step. But Jordan traveled at the begining when he recived the ball...

    • @herojm
      @herojm 6 років тому

      Слобода Или Смрт he just got the ball

    • @СлободаИлиСмрт-у1б
      @СлободаИлиСмрт-у1б 6 років тому +5

      scythee 竜 He holds the ball with both hands and then he does 2 steps without the dribble (travel) and then he dribbles and then again 2 steps. It is impossible to make 4 steps with only one dribble and not get called for a travel, maybe ib US but by Fiba rules that is a travel.

    • @ryanyuan5720
      @ryanyuan5720 2 роки тому

      It’s completely legal. Read the rule and watch video again bro.

    • @СлободаИлиСмрт-у1б
      @СлободаИлиСмрт-у1б 2 роки тому

      @@ryanyuan5720 It's a travel trust me, I don't expect from an Asian to know or understand basketball. 🙂 I'm from Serbia, we live and breathe basketball...

  • @phurinkosumapinun8223
    @phurinkosumapinun8223 6 років тому +2

    1:17 that was more of a defensive foul. She took a right hit to the face!

    • @aidankregenss6999
      @aidankregenss6999 6 років тому +1

      phurin kosumapinun what are you taking ab she never gets touched

    • @cjzanders5430
      @cjzanders5430 6 років тому

      She traveled. You don’t get 2 more steps after that. What she should’ve done was cross over around the 3 point line and create space. The defender is too tall. That was a losing battle.

  • @newtypezabi
    @newtypezabi 2 роки тому +1

    thats double dribble if you dont see that as travel

  • @christos5599
    @christos5599 5 років тому

    This is the definition of travel.

  • @surasint
    @surasint 4 роки тому

    ok now we have steps '0'. In future , we will have step '-1'

  • @nardotheking4128
    @nardotheking4128 5 років тому

    Both where travels