not really a dark secret, we need to stop villainizing mental health. he probably felt unstable and it was a huge realization for him when he got diagnosed
his old videos had the vibe of HRH Collection except he would not scream like her, he would just be lively and luxe and talk about messy relationships, botox, and recent bags he got
To be completely honest he found a lot of success just talking about fashion, bags and perfumes, not drama. Myself and his other followers wanted his OG content not the grinder date info.
Ur so right he really did pioneer the “my birkin bag” haul on UA-cam and social media , he was really the first one to gain notoriety from birkins before that is was just a “if u know u know” sort of thing to the mainstream public
I must admit- I do wish we still had access to his old UA-cam videos. Despite how messy they could be, they definitely were ‘iconic’ as he would put it. I don’t think he should be ashamed of his past either.. perhaps he should upload new vlogs at least. The tiktoks aren’t long enough and I think nowadays he’d grow immensely on here (for better, not for worse) and more people would relate to him compared to the asmr-like content on tiktok.
He was the only UA-camr who didn’t fake that life. He really did all the things he talked about. Now, he’s keeping a low profile and working with many high fashion brands. He was soft spoken and educated even before.
Seems to me more people need to do research on bipolar disorder and what it makes you become. Please Have some compassion. I know why this showed up in my algorithm 👀 please just hope he stays on a better path
I used to watch his old videos. It was a fascinating spoilt life he lived. I was amazed how kind his adoptive parents were to him that acted this way. He was very messy and just all over the place. But he had a very interesting way of speaking and quite honestly very bougie back when it wasn't a trend. I'd say he was quite a trend setter himself. I'm curious how he is now. I haven't seen any of his tiktoks. I'll go check them out.
yeah i totally agree. I just remember him talking about his hookups, his skin treatments (mainly botox), bags, and short marriage. Kinda reminds me off that la girl that is kinda all over the place luxe and iconic forgot the name but yeah
My thoughts exactly on him! His content was very “stream of consciousness” in the most captivating way. Also young, naive and adorable. Yes, also messy but I would not characterize his content as “dark”.
I used to follow him but he got so messy that I had to stop because it’s not cute any more. I hope this new version of him is not just an act to cash in because as a former follower he definitely would put on an act for them coins.
Some of his bag videos were actually very good. I can remember him talking about the different materials, how durable they are, etc. I've bookmarked it before but I guess it'll just live forever in my memories.
You were probably watching a different Charles Gross on UA-cam. Yes he talked about his Grindr encounters, rude boutique staffs & his school, but he wasn't toxic about it. He just carries himself differently now, but he's just as reasonable as he was back then.
I have the same illness and am treated, I look back at myself and feel so sorry for her and how brave she was before knowing. I made many mistakes, I was reckless, manipulative and most of all scared. My family did not believe I wasn’t okay because my life was better than theirs growing up and didn’t “have it as bad”. It took almost dying for them to see and someone to believe me. I felt so so so incredibly LIVELY when someone just believed me. I have been treated and in therapy, I learned that you are allowed to control your own mind and you are allowed to live. I felt horrible for who I was, embarrassed. But I was lucky enough to have a new start at life. For anyone out there, please hold on. Whatever gets you through the day, keep going on. You can change, you can grow, you can have control.
I know this is old, but I’m just seeing it. I love Charles. He took time to make me comfortable in sending my 15 year old, with the band, to NYC. I was terrified, and he took the time, that he didn’t have to, to ease my fears and anxiety.
Never heard of him, but still interesting 🤔. As for the mental health , we'll done to him, for getting to where he is right now and so the journey grows
I used to watch him until it became apparent he was in need of help. I don't have the spoons to deal with that, tbh. I'm extremely happy he's got the help he needed and is doing well.
Excuse me but his og Era I termed Background Charles was iconic for his valuable insight into perfume, handbags, skincare and N.Y. lifestyle. I was there almost from the start. He helped me learn about this stuff and helped me through my depression. When he decided to switch content I slowly faded as a viewer. Doesn't change the fact he probably help to teach other people about said subject matters.
I remember back in 2019 I would watch all of Charles video's daily for a while until he suddenly stopped and deleted all of his UA-cam videos. I'm sorry Charles did that because he was really good at role playing department store cashier's and restaurant managers. When Charles went to tic toc That's when I stopped watching him because tic toc isn't worth watching to me. My best to you Charles you're Amazing😀👍🏼🎉💕
Same here!! I adore my bottle of it. It brings me joy when someone recognizes the scent and they smile at the feeling of nostalgia. It reminded a coworker of nice memories of her grandmother and she thanked me for wearing it. ❤
This explains why he seemed so different to me when I rediscovered him on Instagram. Idk why he’s acting so robotic though, it’s odd. I liked him for his fun personality. Now it seems he’s trying to be someone he’s not.
I would love the new Charles Gross to make a UA-cam channel. Back in the day I would binge watch all his videos. He uploaded every day. I miss that. He has a good sense of humor.
Omg I briefly rmbed him and it felt like a fever dream 😩 then I recently came across a tik tok video and had to check if it was who I think it was!! Glad to see he’s doing well
Well, 2014 was full of these UA-camrs who made up drama. I remember I came across his videos on Birkin bags (not interested in the subject, just curious and this guy was engaging). Then, I noticed his change to all the "drama". He was only 21 in those days. Now, the undiagnosed bipolarity makes sense. Glad to hear he's doing much better now.
This dude obviously never watched his channel lol It was not toxic. He was just living his life. The comment section was toxic and apparently it still is
Omgg you featured Charles Gross! Ngl, it’s been weird to hear the way he speaks now knowing how he did so before his hiatus. I do miss his snark sometimes
I used to watch him religiously he was so damn messy and I loved it but I also love that he was able to say this isn’t for me this isn’t making me feel healthy or happy and he worked to become a better version of himself. Therapy is truly a life saver. I’ll take Charles Gross over James Charles any day of the week
Funny how he ended his UA-cam videos and swore to not come back until he’s a different person in 2019 but literally came back in 2019 the same year and his “old fans” instantly recognized him and how he’s “different” and a “changed person”, like it wasn’t even one year later so of course his fans recognized him, as for being changed that’s just a load of BS 😂
I think that's cool, shows you how one has the chance to be young and to live life, grow, go different places mentally and physically. It's a natural thing in life but I don't know why people want to label other people
I feel like he lied so many times and had a complete new personality every couple of months and had lost touch with reality so much that I can’t take him seriously anymore.
Looking back, his poor brain was suffering. I’m so happy he’s feeling better. I just wish he wasn’t ashamed of his past and addressed it on YT, rather than redirecting/rebranding to TikTok. But I understand it’s probably triggering. Maybe one day. Miss him!
The only dark secret I can say he was follow by a lot of predators since he was 13 yo and all he could talk about was hoe he was an adopted child the sex he had with older men and how he think LV speedy was for gym and how he was going to buy his next Birking in cash , time pass and he grow older the predators didn’t want to watch his videos as an adult anymore and he was out of views in his UA-cam videos . That’s how I saw the whole thing when I was subscribed to his channel.
This guy was completely unhinged. Fat shamed people and always made of fun people of lower class. Not to mention he promoted extremely unhealthy and dangerous weight loss and DIY botox. Has he really changed or is it just a facade? We'll never know.
I didn’t think he was toxic but at one point he was being unnecessarily rude and that’s what made me stop watching him. I definitely came for the Birkins and stayed for the fun storytimes, walks around New York, and wild hook up stories. What had me concerned was that he kept going to the esthetician multiple times a month no a matter how many times half of his audience kept telling him stop going and to let his face heal he would keep going. It wouldn’t help that the other half of his audience kept telling him that it was his money he could do whatever he wanted to do with it. I felt that it would be the same type of people who could watch Nikocado Avocado eat himself to death for the sake of their entertainment. I didn’t want to contribute to that, so I stopped watching. I would definitely watch him again if he came back to UA-cam especially knowing that he’s doing better physically and mentally.
He changed drastically He became insulting and pretentious I love Charles still but he and his channel stopped being positive He changed from crying for animals to showcasing furs from a furrier, he began talking badly about people who he deemed overweight and or unattractive and in the last years he only acknowledged his negative comments I had to stop reading his comment sections they’d become so hateful. He went from 350k followers on UA-cam to 100k in months The million followers, mentioned in this short, must have been on another site. I do pray he’s well and miss him I don’t do instagram but I’ve read he’s there still
Charles was an intelligent fella I might say, he was always soft spoken and eloquent but mah god that man had such tell tale lies all over the place. Who even believed half of his bs
not really a dark secret, we need to stop villainizing mental health. he probably felt unstable and it was a huge realization for him when he got diagnosed
True the diagnosis helps
That’s exactly what it was. He explained it all on his tiktok
his old videos had the vibe of HRH Collection except he would not scream like her, he would just be lively and luxe and talk about messy relationships, botox, and recent bags he got
Makes sense since she’s clearly mentally ill as well. I say that as a bipolar person. She needs help.
They were actually friends! I heard of her from him!
Hrh didn’t scream at beginning. Used to watch her in 2010
They have nothing in commun, gosh the guy is a huge fraud...
@@Nopi9 when she was very PC and lame, thank god she is awake now...
I really miss Charles. I know some of his videos were controversial but most of his content was fun and entertaining vlogs ❤
His new tiktoks are great!
Y'all think everything is controversial 🙄
His growth is amazing. I wish him all the very best on his journey.
To be completely honest he found a lot of success just talking about fashion, bags and perfumes, not drama. Myself and his other followers wanted his OG content not the grinder date info.
I called it his background Era before he started making other content. I adored that Era of videos of fashion and skincare
Yes, that's right. Thats why I started watching him. Then the daily messy vlogs came. Those were amazing. My holy trinity was him, hrh, and amberlynn.
Ur so right he really did pioneer the “my birkin bag” haul on UA-cam and social media , he was really the first one to gain notoriety from birkins before that is was just a “if u know u know” sort of thing to the mainstream public
I must admit- I do wish we still had access to his old UA-cam videos. Despite how messy they could be, they definitely were ‘iconic’ as he would put it. I don’t think he should be ashamed of his past either.. perhaps he should upload new vlogs at least. The tiktoks aren’t long enough and I think nowadays he’d grow immensely on here (for better, not for worse) and more people would relate to him compared to the asmr-like content on tiktok.
Charles is one of the only people I’ve seen grow.
His personal development💯
Agree
True
That’s sad for you boo ✌️
He was the only UA-camr who didn’t fake that life. He really did all the things he talked about. Now, he’s keeping a low profile and working with many high fashion brands. He was soft spoken and educated even before.
Good for him to take responsibility rather than use the diagnosis as an excuse to act out and get his life together.
Seems to me more people need to do research on bipolar disorder and what it makes you become. Please Have some compassion. I know why this showed up in my algorithm 👀 please just hope he stays on a better path
Sure excuse ? 😂
I used to watch his old videos. It was a fascinating spoilt life he lived. I was amazed how kind his adoptive parents were to him that acted this way. He was very messy and just all over the place. But he had a very interesting way of speaking and quite honestly very bougie back when it wasn't a trend. I'd say he was quite a trend setter himself. I'm curious how he is now. I haven't seen any of his tiktoks. I'll go check them out.
yeah i totally agree. I just remember him talking about his hookups, his skin treatments (mainly botox), bags, and short marriage. Kinda reminds me off that la girl that is kinda all over the place luxe and iconic forgot the name but yeah
I miss the way he speaks…
My thoughts exactly on him! His content was very “stream of consciousness” in the most captivating way. Also young, naive and adorable. Yes, also messy but I would not characterize his content as “dark”.
I used to follow him but he got so messy that I had to stop because it’s not cute any more. I hope this new version of him is not just an act to cash in because as a former follower he definitely would put on an act for them coins.
So who has the old videos 😂because they were HILARIOUS!
Beautiful, not dark shows positive transformation and right decision making I’m happy for him
Some of his bag videos were actually very good. I can remember him talking about the different materials, how durable they are, etc. I've bookmarked it before but I guess it'll just live forever in my memories.
You were probably watching a different Charles Gross on UA-cam. Yes he talked about his Grindr encounters, rude boutique staffs & his school, but he wasn't toxic about it. He just carries himself differently now, but he's just as reasonable as he was back then.
I used to love watching his perfume videos
He was so much fun I miss him a lot.
He makes great Tiktoks!
@@luxecollective
No he doesn’t, the same shit without the fun.
Charles Gross is amazing and human. I love his authenticity.
Ugh his UA-cam days were LIFE , I miss it SO much 😩😩
One of his most iconic quotes I'll never forget during a messy online feud is "oh, your family has diamonds? Well mine cries diamonds, honey"
I have the same illness and am treated, I look back at myself and feel so sorry for her and how brave she was before knowing. I made many mistakes, I was reckless, manipulative and most of all scared. My family did not believe I wasn’t okay because my life was better than theirs growing up and didn’t “have it as bad”. It took almost dying for them to see and someone to believe me. I felt so so so incredibly LIVELY when someone just believed me. I have been treated and in therapy, I learned that you are allowed to control your own mind and you are allowed to live. I felt horrible for who I was, embarrassed. But I was lucky enough to have a new start at life. For anyone out there, please hold on. Whatever gets you through the day, keep going on. You can change, you can grow, you can have control.
I know this is old, but I’m just seeing it. I love Charles. He took time to make me comfortable in sending my 15 year old, with the band, to NYC. I was terrified, and he took the time, that he didn’t have to, to ease my fears and anxiety.
Vlogged daily ❌
Vlogged 7 days a week ✅😌
Never heard of him, but still interesting 🤔. As for the mental health , we'll done to him, for getting to where he is right now and so the journey grows
I miss iconic Charles. Random dangerous hookups and postmates and sitting on the floor of his bathroom, that was REAL.
He has always been eloquent and knew what to say actually. His drama videos were just for views
I loved his messy UA-cam channel back then
I didn’t know he was back and he changed
I used to watch him until it became apparent he was in need of help. I don't have the spoons to deal with that, tbh. I'm extremely happy he's got the help he needed and is doing well.
Excuse me but his og Era I termed Background Charles was iconic for his valuable insight into perfume, handbags, skincare and N.Y. lifestyle.
I was there almost from the start. He helped me learn about this stuff and helped me through my depression.
When he decided to switch content I slowly faded as a viewer.
Doesn't change the fact he probably help to teach other people about said subject matters.
He makes loads of informative videos on TikTok now, they're great!
Charles grew up, matured with it. I'm glad, because he always had a keen eye for fashion.
Yessss
I remember back in 2019 I would watch all of Charles video's daily for a while until he suddenly stopped and deleted all of his UA-cam videos. I'm sorry Charles did that because he was really good at role playing department store cashier's and restaurant managers. When Charles went to tic toc
That's when I stopped watching him because tic toc isn't worth watching to me. My best to you Charles you're Amazing😀👍🏼🎉💕
The icon who introduced Shalimar to me ❤ Such class
Same here!! I adore my bottle of it. It brings me joy when someone recognizes the scent and they smile at the feeling of nostalgia. It reminded a coworker of nice memories of her grandmother and she thanked me for wearing it. ❤
*I miss James Gross so much on UA-cam. I love him and waiting for his legendary return.* 🙏 🥹
I really loved his yt channel, it was so candid and his personality was iconic, so funny😂
Well dam! I had no idea he was going through all that!
He has the same way of speaking but now he is more put together. It’s very much him grown up and I applaud him for working on his mental health.
We agree!
This explains why he seemed so different to me when I rediscovered him on Instagram. Idk why he’s acting so robotic though, it’s odd. I liked him for his fun personality. Now it seems he’s trying to be someone he’s not.
His perfume reviews were magical
I love love his voice! Literally I watched him every bedtime to sleep. Always got a sweet dreams.
ahhh amazing!
😵💫🤢
I would love the new Charles Gross to make a UA-cam channel. Back in the day I would binge watch all his videos. He uploaded every day. I miss that. He has a good sense of humor.
His xes tape was epic 😂
Omg I briefly rmbed him and it felt like a fever dream 😩 then I recently came across a tik tok video and had to check if it was who I think it was!! Glad to see he’s doing well
I love everything that Charles has done. I just hated his haters ! His videos were great on youtube.
What was dark? What was secret? Nonsense
Good for him for creating a positive change. 💯💯💕
Yesss
I used to LOVE Charles. 😢
...so.... what's the dark secret life again?
Adult films I believe…
Well, 2014 was full of these UA-camrs who made up drama. I remember I came across his videos on Birkin bags (not interested in the subject, just curious and this guy was engaging). Then, I noticed his change to all the "drama". He was only 21 in those days. Now, the undiagnosed bipolarity makes sense. Glad to hear he's doing much better now.
This dude obviously never watched his channel lol It was not toxic. He was just living his life. The comment section was toxic and apparently it still is
Omgg you featured Charles Gross! Ngl, it’s been weird to hear the way he speaks now knowing how he did so before his hiatus. I do miss his snark sometimes
I used to watch him religiously he was so damn messy and I loved it but I also love that he was able to say this isn’t for me this isn’t making me feel healthy or happy and he worked to become a better version of himself. Therapy is truly a life saver.
I’ll take Charles Gross over James Charles any day of the week
Funny how he ended his UA-cam videos and swore to not come back until he’s a different person in 2019 but literally came back in 2019 the same year and his “old fans” instantly recognized him and how he’s “different” and a “changed person”, like it wasn’t even one year later so of course his fans recognized him, as for being changed that’s just a load of BS 😂
He actually changed, I think
I think he got a lot of help and guidance at every level.
Don’t know him, but I am glad he is doing better now and changed his ways!
Omg I used to follow his Grindr blogs way back in the beginning. I was wondering if anyone remembered the old Charles Gross!
I think that's cool, shows you how one has the chance to be young and to live life, grow, go different places mentally and physically. It's a natural thing in life but I don't know why people want to label other people
Now just boring, his selling point was messy mundane life
have yall watched the movie "Paradise Hills" starring Emma Roberts? this kinda reminds me of that movie.
Oh no twerking for a Birkin 😂😂
He was struggling mentally, and wanted to better himself and find himself outside of shopping. What about that is a secret or dark???????
I feel like he lied so many times and had a complete new personality every couple of months and had lost touch with reality so much that I can’t take him seriously anymore.
Good for him. I remember watching a few of his vids. It was only a few so I didn’t know all of that he was going through.
Looking back, his poor brain was suffering. I’m so happy he’s feeling better. I just wish he wasn’t ashamed of his past and addressed it on YT, rather than redirecting/rebranding to TikTok. But I understand it’s probably triggering. Maybe one day. Miss him!
Ok so what?? Let it rest. He's a nice person.
One answer, treatment honey 😂
his fake sugar daddy Earl. Then after sensationalizing his birkens so much he turned around and sold all of them . He was one hot mess
He grew up and took care of himself
The only dark secret I can say he was follow by a lot of predators since he was 13 yo and all he could talk about was hoe he was an adopted child the sex he had with older men and how he think LV speedy was for gym and how he was going to buy his next Birking in cash , time pass and he grow older the predators didn’t want to watch his videos as an adult anymore and he was out of views in his UA-cam videos . That’s how I saw the whole thing when I was subscribed to his channel.
He was a kid! People grow up! If I could read my old tweets, I would cringe to death 😫
I literally miss his videos.
Any way to retrieve them ?
no but he is on TikTok!
Kanye should get Charles as a life coach
Lolll
??
ITS NOT DARK. ITS THE EVOLUTION OF CHARLES GROSS.
Did anybody hear a faint grindr notification😂😂😂
I used to watch him growing up and I wondered what happened to me
Never heard of him.
It was a lot of fun.
Very interesting & cool👏👏👏
thanks!
Would you disagree?
This guy was completely unhinged. Fat shamed people and always made of fun people of lower class. Not to mention he promoted extremely unhealthy and dangerous weight loss and DIY botox. Has he really changed or is it just a facade? We'll never know.
So he is on his meds and turned his life around ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I didn’t think he was toxic but at one point he was being unnecessarily rude and that’s what made me stop watching him. I definitely came for the Birkins and stayed for the fun storytimes, walks around New York, and wild hook up stories. What had me concerned was that he kept going to the esthetician multiple times a month no a matter how many times half of his audience kept telling him stop going and to let his face heal he would keep going. It wouldn’t help that the other half of his audience kept telling him that it was his money he could do whatever he wanted to do with it.
I felt that it would be the same type of people who could watch Nikocado Avocado eat himself to death for the sake of their entertainment. I didn’t want to contribute to that, so I stopped watching. I would definitely watch him again if he came back to UA-cam especially knowing that he’s doing better physically and mentally.
Good for him ❤❤
Charles was never toxic
His audience just turned on him and became very nasty
He changed drastically
He became insulting and pretentious
I love Charles still but he and his channel stopped being positive
He changed from crying for animals to showcasing furs from a furrier, he began talking badly about people who he deemed overweight and or unattractive and in the last years he only acknowledged his negative comments
I had to stop reading his comment sections they’d become so hateful.
He went from 350k followers on UA-cam to 100k in months
The million followers, mentioned in this short, must have been on another site.
I do pray he’s well and miss him
I don’t do instagram but I’ve read he’s there still
There is no dark secret life he put everything out there. This is click bait do not speak of mental health and a gossiping way. This is not ethical.
people can change ❤️
I have no idea who that is
Let’s have it freaks. I’m a George Michael fan..
i bet she lives in manhattan
it was evident he was a very unwell and very delusional. question is...... how toxic are you digging this up? Very swallow.
I miss Charles - he had bipolar and you're talking poorly about him. That's not cool
He grew
How's his sister doing?
It's not dark or secret
I thought he was Bhad Bhabie
Miss the toxic Charles...I heard he got scared offline when all his scams and sex scenes got released
no he just whent gay
He always was gay
Charles was an intelligent fella I might say, he was always soft spoken and eloquent but mah god that man had such tell tale lies all over the place. Who even believed half of his bs
He is an absolute icon ❤
An icon