Loved the video, the message for me it's simple, stop the lack of recognition to players, to Lebron, to Curry, to Jokić, to Miller, to Kobe, to Garnet, to Duncan, to Olajuwon, Kemp, Malone, and to MJ, and stop the lack of recognition to all the players that are there and I didn't mention, the game has change, you can have your favorites and still those players that are not your favorites were/are amazing and still will be amazing.
I just found your channel recently and love the content you guys are putting out. I think the main argument the 90's era guys use is the hand checking rule, and how much that changes the game on both offense and defense. Because it's not a rule in today's league I feel like it's comparing apples to oranges, and unless that rule is reinstated, we probably will never know how much of an impact it has.
You nailed it! It's how much better a player was over their peers. People should also check out Michaels averages when Doug Collings had him playing point guard. Pretty sure he was averaging close to a 20pt triple double. I also think he almost got a a 20-20-20 game.
What a fantastic video and the clip of wilt is great to start with it goes to show exactly what you said the game constantly evolves but as in most walks of life older people can’t let go of the “good old days” so they make up narratives to deny the greatness of the up and comers regardless of the truth the 90s would have been tougher for wilt lord of great centers slowed play… but not in his mind in his mind there just kids playing his game the wrong way. Jordan dominated the 90s by and large and now there’s so much competition there’s almost no way anyone matches that
You are taking away all the other things in the game: defense, toughness, playing every game, no load management, no jumping ship if you can't win, and go to super teams to make it impossible to lose. I can prove it. Why superstars like Durant, Booker, and Tatum, the best in the league, went to the Olympics and got beaten several times, and barely won the gold Beating Gobert and Batum by only 5 points. What about the year after, just 2 years ago when the commissioner added a bit more physicality, and all of a sudden the percentages of players like: Trae, Luka, Lillard, Harden dropped to pure garbage? If you only add a hand check and a real zone defense, I guarantee that nobody will look "so much better". Many "superstars" will be a liability for their teams and percentages will drop instantly.
Yeah his general thought process is on the right track but it really came across like a younger fan who thinks they understand more about both generations than they do. Some of the individual talent has obviously evolved but I'm tired of people acting like the difference is the same as comparing the late 80's and 90's to the 60's and 70's. The playoff games from the 90's is full of plays that would still get praised in today's league. Obviously some moments aren't great but you can highlight the same issues now. Pretending like terrible performances aren't happening the same way today that they did back then is very disingenuous. It would be really interesting if we could use AI to swap iconic 90's finals games with modern teams to see how young fans would react if they thought it was real. There was A LOT more skill back then than videos like this give it credit for.
traveling...palming carrying...allowed to go against defenders now without thinking that is an offensive foul..now players just run against defenders and instead of an offensive foul they get a defensive foul...
Uhm you do know old heads were complaining about Jordan carrying back in 1990. I remember it cause I said MJ was better than Magic or Bird in 89 when I was a kids.
@@Stickyickes It wasn’t just Jordan that let his hand drift more the side of the ball then and they complained about other things as well. Also the carrying wasn’t just a few plays, I had to listen multiple times a game to guys complaining about what Dr J could have done if he could have touched the side of the ball while dribbling. My point is that this argument was just as ridiculous as theirs was.
@@AAblade7Is it though? Obviously every generation will take issue with how new players approach the game. Sometimes they're right but others they're simply missing how it evolves for the better. Did Jordan ever travel and carry? Of course, but he also had handles nobody had seen before and the majority of his style can easily be argued wasn't really carrying unless the rules were changed. We've seen players break the NBA and force rule changes but Jordan's style was embraced and laid the ground for what we see today. So what's my point? The league today isn't just a case of better players taking the game to new heights. We're seeing the rules changed and exploited to prioritize offense and make it easier to score. We see star defenders leave the lane open because they're worried about a foul call. Players flop to sell a call if the defender so much as breaths too close to them. The league even had to change the rules on intentionally leaning into defender's arms during a shot (looking at you Harden). While I don't like focusing too much on all-star games I do think they reflect the overall theme of the league at the time. I'm sure I don't need to tell you how what that looks like now compared to the past. Defense has been nerfed, offense has been given all the advantages and we absolutely see a number of obvious rule violations slide under the radar.
@@JJFX- First off Isaiah Thomas had better handles than Jordan ever had. He just couldn’t move at the speed MJ did. What made Jordan was more his insane athleticism, drive, and IQ. Also the NBA has allowed obvious rule violations for decades now aka Jordan treatment. Second I need to point out what I like to call the 1 and 29 rule. 1 team innovates a concept and 29 teams create a crappier version. So 90’s bulls triangle offense created some awesome iso plays for MJ, but people forget it was the back door cuts and passing that created those 1v1s. Same with the warriors. Oh look they are shooting a lot of 3’s so we should just play 5 out, but they forget they are using sets to ensure those are mostly open 3’s. So a lot of what we are both complaining about is the idiocy of those 29 teams making crappy copies of a great team. Thirdly that was way too much rose colored glasses. You didn’t point out any of the issues that the 90’s and 2000’s had. Yes the league embraced MJ cause he was bringing in millions. They also embraced more iso heavy play and less ball movement. I think AI is awesome, but for every 1 astounding play their were 3 plays of just constant stationary dribbling and a forced brick. The center position seemed to get less skilled and more Frankenstein every season. Defense wasn’t really that great since it was a whole lot of packing the paint, especially after illegal defense was removed in 2004. I would argue that the current game has improved a lot. We are now getting skilled centers like we used to a la Hakeem the dream. Last 3 seasons I’ve seen defenses really starting to innovate on a level I haven’t seen in decades. Yeah I agree the foul baiting still needs to be fixed, which has been my biggest gripe of this era. I do disagree on how the all-star game reflects the current NBA. To me instead of cyclic swings between offense and defense based on the era it’s just been degrading as a product since showtime. More to the point all pro sports all-star games have had a slow death since the day Pete Rose effectively ruined Ray Fosse’s career.
@@AAblade7 Jordan and Magic were called for traveling in the finals. Now you get gather steps, crab dribbles, Eurosteps and all the other bullshit. I've seen on multiple occasions LBJ take more than 5 steps and not get a travel called. He has take 7 steps before and not been called. The number of different travel compilations where he didn't get called for travelling for LBJ alone is ASTOUNDING.
The game hasn't evolved for the better. Defense is limited by rule changes. Because of this, it's hardly even played. That's half the game that's almost non-existant .Nearly every Euro player superstar in the NBA has stated the NBA is easier to score than the Euro league. We allow them to carry, travel, whine, and flop like crazy. It's a damn circus. Viewership is declining year after year...its not better.
Nah fr this league is just so soft and not to mention they did away with hand checking. This league is just way too soft for it to even be remotely better than the early 2000s or 90s
I think... You should accept the progression... And also aknowledge the change on the refereeing... But I Have to say.. Jordan BENeFiTed from the approach of referees...
Right, Just watch the Pistons series. Watch LeBron make contact with refs every single night and loose his mind to the refs and not get a tech. Who benefitted more?
The last part 😂. You basically shown how weak mj competition are. 92 and 93 finals have thw weakest finals defense but nobody wants to admit it. Back then having a left hand lay up and switching hand midair to avoid getting block is considered alien. Muggsty the shortest nba player lasted 15 years in nba while it4 being better at almost everything cant even get a contract.
Your argument is that the worst players in the 90s were worse than the worst players since 2014. And that they call more fouls now in the NBA as compared to the 90s.
@@Post2k69 I think almost all of the comparisons between the 90s and the last 10 years can boil down to way more European and international players overall. Skills have to go up bc you're competing against a lot more potential prospects all over the world now.
Its easy to say something was the best when it's been a while. I'm sure people will be saying the same shit in 2045. The game evolves, becomes better, and people refuse to acknowledge it but instead make bs excuses and criticizing anything and everything.
Except it hasn't evolved for the better. Defense is limited by rule changes. Because of this, it's hardly even played. Nearly every Euro player superstar in the NBA has stated the NBA is easier to score than the Euro league. We allow them to carry, travel, whine, and flop like crazy. It's a damn circus.
While you aren't wrong, its also just that offense has become so much better. Defense, or rather, physicality has certainly dropped too. As for the Euro League, its just better basketball overall, its more complete. But the argument isn't Euro League vs NBA, its old NBA vs new NBA.
@@Post2k69 YOU are wrong..since now there is almost no center in the league so you are comparing PLAYERS that arent bigs. IF you put a league with just PG of course they are going to have a higher FG% from 3 or FT than bigs. you got guys like PJ TUCKER that were SG and now are playing PF..SMALL BALL means less BIGS...
This video is an awful take and exposes your youth. Their has been 0 evolutionary differences between human beings in 1990 and now. That’s genuinely stupid. Rules, medicine, science and culture has evolved. Evolution is not a synonym for “better”. The problem with NBA discourse is the same issue within the country… A failed educational system and dysfunctional familial environment. Otherwise these wouldn’t be our conversations.
Two points scoring is easy now days with 4 guys spread around the perimeter guarding all the "shooters". Watch guys in the 90's have to deal with 3 people in the paint on the regular. Also, any PF playing the lakers gets about 5 free buckets per game because LBJ is still under his own basket bitching at the ref after he missed a layup and didn't get a foul call.
Crab dribble, Eurostep, gather step 🤣🤣🤣🤣 - that isn't evolution, those are fundamental changes to the game that made it easier. Oh, and if you even think about passing the ball to a teammate who might score, you get an assist now days.
Without the 90s you don’t have the 2000s…..there’s no way these players could play with the players back then…. Tired of y’all and this internet shit….. and the greatest player is Jordan he has two dynasty’s Lebron has none …. And has no championship without other killers on his team ….when you talk about The Goat conversation you have to talk about jewelry and one of the those was in the bubble…Jordan
Womp womp. “They couldn’t play back then” u do realize that players now are faster, stronger, better scorers, u old heads are just ignorant. Might as well get on your knees for Jordan the way u swear he’s the best
Hold on, you think Trey You,g Hero, Pritchard, Lemelo, Cam Johson, Jordan Poole, Julian Champagnie, etc can defend? You think Goga Bitadze, Kessler, Sarr, Gobert, Lively, Gafford, Issac, Dyson Daniels, Chris Dunn, Jalen Suggs, Jaden McDaniels etc aren't specialist? What a lair and a joke. You want me to show you the clips of LBJ dribbling the ball off his leg. Or his foot? Or inbounding the ball off the backside of the back boarrd for a turnover? Or jumping in the air not knowing what to do with the ball just to throw it out of bounds? No, you don't want that, but there are plenty of those out there too. All Era's have specialists. Today's guys might be better athlete's in some cases, and they certainly have advantages in better training, transportation, nutrition, etc, but they "load manage", don't have to deal with hand checks and the physcicality night in and night out.
If LBJ is the best you have ever seen, I feel sorry for you. A quitter who can't dribble, can't shoot, doesn't play defense, and is a terrible teammate who won't give others credit. He is the reason many of who loved basketball don't watch the NBA anymore.
PLAYERS now cant play..deal with it..stop lying saying players now do everything..yes they do but they do everything bad. PLAYERS FG% is way worse... THE BEST 3 point shooters are all from the past. YOU are mistaken volume with quality.. CURRY shooting 3/10 --1/12 isnt good..yes he has some random good games but then have 4 straight bad games and it seems you erase those..
@@Post2k69 you really dont want to use facts against me since you clearly start watching basketball yesterday..so how are you goint to talk about something i have witness??? is like someone from now start talking with someone that experienced the WW2 just because you saw a video about the WW2... CONTEXT matters and living during that era is way more important than looking at videos. THATS why there are kids who still think KOBE was the MVP in 2005 and 2006...
Curry has the 12th best 3-point percentage of all-time (42.6%) while easily taking the toughest shots of any three-point shooter. Last season the league put up 119 triple-doubles, the season with the most triple-doubles in the 90s was 61in 1990. A clear indicator of players becoming better all around, but that's okay dude believe what you want.@@onlyfacts3178
Funny how this era is so much better than the 90s but only the 3 point record has been broken and the scoring all time which isn't really considered that great cuh playing 20 years to beat a record when you starting play in the NBA at 18 ain't that great of an acco.plishment especially since only 10 people have played 20 years in the nba
@Blue.Marvel Bruh no one gives a FID DUCK about the scoring title cuh no one actively chases the scoring title. The only time the scoring title is brought up is when a player is in his 18th or 19th season which means NO ONE GIVES A FUCK!!!!! For Example Kevin Durant could continue to average what he averages right now and he would surpass 40,000 points in 4 more seasons which would be his 20th season.....But guess WHY we haven't heard anything about it?????????? Because NO ONE GIVES A FUCK!!!! HOWEVER!!!! We would hear about it if Kevin Durant is playing 2 or 3 seasons from now...Shit the only reason that record was even mentioned was because Kareem played for 20 years and one day someone added up his points and said HEY EVERYONE KAREEM HAS SCORED MORE POINTS THAN ANYONE IN THE NBA!!!!!!! Plus dont forget about the FACT THAT IT TAKES 20 YEARS TO DO IT FOR ANY PLAYER IS WHY NO ONE GIVES A FUCK!!!!! The only reason YOU EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT OR CARE IS BECAUSE...When the NBA realized that Lebron wasn't better than Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant for that matter and they lost millions of fans since M.J left 12 million to be exact and then more fans when Kobe left. The NBA realized that 92% of NBA fans say M.J is the GOAT. So they had to keep finding ways to sell Lebron to the fans so they made a big deal with the scoring title. I know this cuh i was around when Kareem retired and back then and even now whenever the scoring title was brought up it was brought up after all of Kareems other accolades Yeah: So my point is NO ONE CARES BRUH BRUH
RULES have become easier everyone knows that.. 60s to 70s to 80s to 90s to 00s to 10s to 20s.. IF kids dont even understand that they shouldnt even talk about basketball. WILT was stong as a BULL and he couldnt use his force unlike what kids may think...so of course in the 90s he would be even better... THE same way with WEST and COUSY because they could change their hands and dribble with left or right without thinking that refs would call for transport... YES players in the 60s could twist their wrists...so how can you dribble a ball to another hand without twisting your wrist...
You agreed with JxmyHighroller on a point the commenter disagreed with. Agreed would be the wrong word I think because it would imply that you have heard what Jxmy said and it's more than your opinions coincide.
@@Post2k69 HUMANS are getting weaker and dumber..so we arent evolving.. AND Basketball isnt evolving, changing doesnt mean evolving..if you move to something worse you arent evolving. PLAYERS now are way worse..but of course kids who start watching basketaball yesterday think players now that cant even dribble that ball without carrying or dont have any fundamentals are better 🤣🤣🤣
Loved the video, the message for me it's simple, stop the lack of recognition to players, to Lebron, to Curry, to Jokić, to Miller, to Kobe, to Garnet, to Duncan, to Olajuwon, Kemp, Malone, and to MJ, and stop the lack of recognition to all the players that are there and I didn't mention, the game has change, you can have your favorites and still those players that are not your favorites were/are amazing and still will be amazing.
thanks for the love bro I appreciate it
I just found your channel recently and love the content you guys are putting out. I think the main argument the 90's era guys use is the hand checking rule, and how much that changes the game on both offense and defense. Because it's not a rule in today's league I feel like it's comparing apples to oranges, and unless that rule is reinstated, we probably will never know how much of an impact it has.
Today's guys also get crab dribbles and gather steps, and eurosteps, and relaxed assists rules are well.
Absolutelly great video!
12:22 this is Steve Kerr… literally who made steph…
You nailed it! It's how much better a player was over their peers. People should also check out Michaels averages when Doug Collings had him playing point guard. Pretty sure he was averaging close to a 20pt triple double. I also think he almost got a a 20-20-20 game.
You have some of the best basketball videos consistently. It’s too bad the algorithm hates your guys 😢
thanks bro. we’re gonna make it out 🫶
@@Post2k69 Not with this kinda shit you ain't
What a fantastic video and the clip of wilt is great to start with it goes to show exactly what you said the game constantly evolves but as in most walks of life older people can’t let go of the “good old days” so they make up narratives to deny the greatness of the up and comers regardless of the truth the 90s would have been tougher for wilt lord of great centers slowed play… but not in his mind in his mind there just kids playing his game the wrong way. Jordan dominated the 90s by and large and now there’s so much competition there’s almost no way anyone matches that
You are taking away all the other things in the game: defense, toughness, playing every game, no load management, no jumping ship if you can't win, and go to super teams to make it impossible to lose. I can prove it. Why superstars like Durant, Booker, and Tatum, the best in the league, went to the Olympics and got beaten several times, and barely won the gold Beating Gobert and Batum by only 5 points. What about the year after, just 2 years ago when the commissioner added a bit more physicality, and all of a sudden the percentages of players like: Trae, Luka, Lillard, Harden dropped to pure garbage? If you only add a hand check and a real zone defense, I guarantee that nobody will look "so much better". Many "superstars" will be a liability for their teams and percentages will drop instantly.
Yeah his general thought process is on the right track but it really came across like a younger fan who thinks they understand more about both generations than they do. Some of the individual talent has obviously evolved but I'm tired of people acting like the difference is the same as comparing the late 80's and 90's to the 60's and 70's.
The playoff games from the 90's is full of plays that would still get praised in today's league. Obviously some moments aren't great but you can highlight the same issues now. Pretending like terrible performances aren't happening the same way today that they did back then is very disingenuous.
It would be really interesting if we could use AI to swap iconic 90's finals games with modern teams to see how young fans would react if they thought it was real. There was A LOT more skill back then than videos like this give it credit for.
traveling...palming carrying...allowed to go against defenders now without thinking that is an offensive foul..now players just run against defenders and instead of an offensive foul they get a defensive foul...
Uhm you do know old heads were complaining about Jordan carrying back in 1990. I remember it cause I said MJ was better than Magic or Bird in 89 when I was a kids.
@@AAblade7okay you named a handful of plays from a specific player not an entire league.
@@Stickyickes It wasn’t just Jordan that let his hand drift more the side of the ball then and they complained about other things as well. Also the carrying wasn’t just a few plays, I had to listen multiple times a game to guys complaining about what Dr J could have done if he could have touched the side of the ball while dribbling. My point is that this argument was just as ridiculous as theirs was.
@@AAblade7Is it though? Obviously every generation will take issue with how new players approach the game. Sometimes they're right but others they're simply missing how it evolves for the better. Did Jordan ever travel and carry? Of course, but he also had handles nobody had seen before and the majority of his style can easily be argued wasn't really carrying unless the rules were changed. We've seen players break the NBA and force rule changes but Jordan's style was embraced and laid the ground for what we see today.
So what's my point? The league today isn't just a case of better players taking the game to new heights. We're seeing the rules changed and exploited to prioritize offense and make it easier to score. We see star defenders leave the lane open because they're worried about a foul call. Players flop to sell a call if the defender so much as breaths too close to them. The league even had to change the rules on intentionally leaning into defender's arms during a shot (looking at you Harden).
While I don't like focusing too much on all-star games I do think they reflect the overall theme of the league at the time. I'm sure I don't need to tell you how what that looks like now compared to the past. Defense has been nerfed, offense has been given all the advantages and we absolutely see a number of obvious rule violations slide under the radar.
@@JJFX- First off Isaiah Thomas had better handles than Jordan ever had. He just couldn’t move at the speed MJ did. What made Jordan was more his insane athleticism, drive, and IQ. Also the NBA has allowed obvious rule violations for decades now aka Jordan treatment. Second I need to point out what I like to call the 1 and 29 rule. 1 team innovates a concept and 29 teams create a crappier version. So 90’s bulls triangle offense created some awesome iso plays for MJ, but people forget it was the back door cuts and passing that created those 1v1s. Same with the warriors. Oh look they are shooting a lot of 3’s so we should just play 5 out, but they forget they are using sets to ensure those are mostly open 3’s. So a lot of what we are both complaining about is the idiocy of those 29 teams making crappy copies of a great team. Thirdly that was way too much rose colored glasses. You didn’t point out any of the issues that the 90’s and 2000’s had. Yes the league embraced MJ cause he was bringing in millions. They also embraced more iso heavy play and less ball movement. I think AI is awesome, but for every 1 astounding play their were 3 plays of just constant stationary dribbling and a forced brick. The center position seemed to get less skilled and more Frankenstein every season. Defense wasn’t really that great since it was a whole lot of packing the paint, especially after illegal defense was removed in 2004. I would argue that the current game has improved a lot. We are now getting skilled centers like we used to a la Hakeem the dream. Last 3 seasons I’ve seen defenses really starting to innovate on a level I haven’t seen in decades. Yeah I agree the foul baiting still needs to be fixed, which has been my biggest gripe of this era.
I do disagree on how the all-star game reflects the current NBA. To me instead of cyclic swings between offense and defense based on the era it’s just been degrading as a product since showtime. More to the point all pro sports all-star games have had a slow death since the day Pete Rose effectively ruined Ray Fosse’s career.
1:34 "left younger fans with no other choice but to go back and watch those games" - 🧢🧢🧢🧢
If you haven't gone back and watched the games then you're not really a fan of basketball
I started watching in the early 90's. That's all I'm sayin'.
Did he really show Wilt who makes the most delusional takes ever and use his comment to say that was the representative of that era lmmfao
Yeah, these guys don't know ball or even anything about the greats who came before them.
In a 32 month span MJ won 3 chips, 3 finals mvps, 2 mvps, 3 scoring titles, 3 all defensive 1st team, and PLAYED EVERY GAME. Enough said.
Sure Grandpa, lets get you to bed
I agree.. but you should also tell about the rule change mainly travelling..
Yeah I was born in the 80’s and I remember Dr J fans calling Jordan for traveling so give that argument up.
@@AAblade7 Jordan and Magic were called for traveling in the finals. Now you get gather steps, crab dribbles, Eurosteps and all the other bullshit. I've seen on multiple occasions LBJ take more than 5 steps and not get a travel called. He has take 7 steps before and not been called. The number of different travel compilations where he didn't get called for travelling for LBJ alone is ASTOUNDING.
That last segment Just shows how watered down mj comp was and how better defenders are. But i do respect the 90s don’t get it twisted
The game hasn't evolved for the better. Defense is limited by rule changes. Because of this, it's hardly even played. That's half the game that's almost non-existant .Nearly every Euro player superstar in the NBA has stated the NBA is easier to score than the Euro league.
We allow them to carry, travel, whine, and flop like crazy. It's a damn circus. Viewership is declining year after year...its not better.
Nah fr this league is just so soft and not to mention they did away with hand checking. This league is just way too soft for it to even be remotely better than the early 2000s or 90s
I think...
You should accept the progression...
And also aknowledge the change on the refereeing...
But I Have to say..
Jordan BENeFiTed from the approach of referees...
Just like how current NBA stars benefit from carrying, flopping, load management and travelling etc...
Right, Just watch the Pistons series. Watch LeBron make contact with refs every single night and loose his mind to the refs and not get a tech. Who benefitted more?
The last part 😂. You basically shown how weak mj competition are.
92 and 93 finals have thw weakest finals defense but nobody wants to admit it.
Back then having a left hand lay up and switching hand midair to avoid getting block is considered alien.
Muggsty the shortest nba player lasted 15 years in nba while it4 being better at almost everything cant even get a contract.
Your argument is that the worst players in the 90s were worse than the worst players since 2014. And that they call more fouls now in the NBA as compared to the 90s.
not exactly……
@@Post2k69 I think almost all of the comparisons between the 90s and the last 10 years can boil down to way more European and international players overall. Skills have to go up bc you're competing against a lot more potential prospects all over the world now.
@@Post2k69 Pretty much...
Its easy to say something was the best when it's been a while. I'm sure people will be saying the same shit in 2045. The game evolves, becomes better, and people refuse to acknowledge it but instead make bs excuses and criticizing anything and everything.
exactly. nostalgia
Except it hasn't evolved for the better. Defense is limited by rule changes. Because of this, it's hardly even played. Nearly every Euro player superstar in the NBA has stated the NBA is easier to score than the Euro league.
We allow them to carry, travel, whine, and flop like crazy. It's a damn circus.
While you aren't wrong, its also just that offense has become so much better. Defense, or rather, physicality has certainly dropped too. As for the Euro League, its just better basketball overall, its more complete. But the argument isn't Euro League vs NBA, its old NBA vs new NBA.
Jxmyhighroller posted the same video 2 days after you 👀
SG are now playing at PF so of course the FT % is higher...you are comparing SG that PLAY at PF with real BIGS
comparing players not positions
@@Post2k69 YOU are wrong..since now there is almost no center in the league so you are comparing PLAYERS that arent bigs.
IF you put a league with just PG of course they are going to have a higher FG% from 3 or FT than bigs.
you got guys like PJ TUCKER that were SG and now are playing PF..SMALL BALL means less BIGS...
all I did was analyze what was in front of me bro, I don't run the NBA@@onlyfacts3178
@@Post2k69his name is only facts but this guy ain’t got nothing but straight trash
@@Post2k69 But you take things out of context, and you do it on purpose.
This video is an awful take and exposes your youth.
Their has been 0 evolutionary differences between human beings in 1990 and now.
That’s genuinely stupid.
Rules, medicine, science and culture has evolved. Evolution is not a synonym for “better”.
The problem with NBA discourse is the same issue within the country…
A failed educational system and dysfunctional familial environment.
Otherwise these wouldn’t be our conversations.
Two points scoring is easy now days with 4 guys spread around the perimeter guarding all the "shooters". Watch guys in the 90's have to deal with 3 people in the paint on the regular. Also, any PF playing the lakers gets about 5 free buckets per game because LBJ is still under his own basket bitching at the ref after he missed a layup and didn't get a foul call.
Crab dribble, Eurostep, gather step 🤣🤣🤣🤣 - that isn't evolution, those are fundamental changes to the game that made it easier. Oh, and if you even think about passing the ball to a teammate who might score, you get an assist now days.
In the 90's there isn't any defense on the three point play, what so ever...
and they go under the screen... now people set screen at half court area. slow footed center don't stand a chance.
@@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains Jokic says hi, 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Without the 90s you don’t have the 2000s…..there’s no way these players could play with the players back then…. Tired of y’all and this internet shit….. and the greatest player is Jordan he has two dynasty’s Lebron has none …. And has no championship without other killers on his team ….when you talk about The Goat conversation you have to talk about jewelry and one of the those was in the bubble…Jordan
I agree with everything you just said
Facts bro spittin
Womp womp. “They couldn’t play back then” u do realize that players now are faster, stronger, better scorers, u old heads are just ignorant. Might as well get on your knees for Jordan the way u swear he’s the best
Shut up old man
this what i always thinking, people always disrespect the past, they forget "without the past there is no present, without present there is no future"
Hold on, you think Trey You,g Hero, Pritchard, Lemelo, Cam Johson, Jordan Poole, Julian Champagnie, etc can defend? You think Goga Bitadze, Kessler, Sarr, Gobert, Lively, Gafford, Issac, Dyson Daniels, Chris Dunn, Jalen Suggs, Jaden McDaniels etc aren't specialist? What a lair and a joke. You want me to show you the clips of LBJ dribbling the ball off his leg. Or his foot? Or inbounding the ball off the backside of the back boarrd for a turnover? Or jumping in the air not knowing what to do with the ball just to throw it out of bounds? No, you don't want that, but there are plenty of those out there too.
All Era's have specialists. Today's guys might be better athlete's in some cases, and they certainly have advantages in better training, transportation, nutrition, etc, but they "load manage", don't have to deal with hand checks and the physcicality night in and night out.
If LBJ is the best you have ever seen, I feel sorry for you. A quitter who can't dribble, can't shoot, doesn't play defense, and is a terrible teammate who won't give others credit. He is the reason many of who loved basketball don't watch the NBA anymore.
WEMBY in the 90s would be a smaller S:BRADLEY...
wild
Wrong....
Don’t know ball
It was a differemt game...
PLAYERS now cant play..deal with it..stop lying saying players now do everything..yes they do but they do everything bad.
PLAYERS FG% is way worse...
THE BEST 3 point shooters are all from the past.
YOU are mistaken volume with quality..
CURRY shooting 3/10 --1/12 isnt good..yes he has some random good games but then have 4 straight bad games and it seems you erase those..
you’re not living up to your name
@@Post2k69 you really dont want to use facts against me since you clearly start watching basketball yesterday..so how are you goint to talk about something i have witness??? is like someone from now start talking with someone that experienced the WW2 just because you saw a video about the WW2...
CONTEXT matters and living during that era is way more important than looking at videos.
THATS why there are kids who still think KOBE was the MVP in 2005 and 2006...
Curry has the 12th best 3-point percentage of all-time (42.6%) while easily taking the toughest shots of any three-point shooter. Last season the league put up 119 triple-doubles, the season with the most triple-doubles in the 90s was 61in 1990. A clear indicator of players becoming better all around, but that's okay dude believe what you want.@@onlyfacts3178
Funny how this era is so much better than the 90s but only the 3 point record has been broken and the scoring all time which isn't really considered that great cuh playing 20 years to beat a record when you starting play in the NBA at 18 ain't that great of an acco.plishment especially since only 10 people have played 20 years in the nba
If the scoring record isn't so great then why don't any of the top Shooting guards have it 🤔
@Blue.Marvel Bruh no one gives a FID DUCK about the scoring title cuh no one actively chases the scoring title. The only time the scoring title is brought up is when a player is in his 18th or 19th season which means NO ONE GIVES A FUCK!!!!!
For Example Kevin Durant could continue to average what he averages right now and he would surpass 40,000 points in 4 more seasons which would be his 20th season.....But guess WHY we haven't heard anything about it?????????? Because NO ONE GIVES A FUCK!!!! HOWEVER!!!! We would hear about it if Kevin Durant is playing 2 or 3 seasons from now...Shit the only reason that record was even mentioned was because Kareem played for 20 years and one day someone added up his points and said HEY EVERYONE KAREEM HAS SCORED MORE POINTS THAN ANYONE IN THE NBA!!!!!!! Plus dont forget about the FACT THAT IT TAKES 20 YEARS TO DO IT FOR ANY PLAYER IS WHY NO ONE GIVES A FUCK!!!!!
The only reason YOU EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT OR CARE IS BECAUSE...When the NBA realized that Lebron wasn't better than Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant for that matter and they lost millions of fans since M.J left 12 million to be exact and then more fans when Kobe left. The NBA realized that 92% of NBA fans say M.J is the GOAT. So they had to keep finding ways to sell Lebron to the fans so they made a big deal with the scoring title. I know this cuh i was around when Kareem retired and back then and even now whenever the scoring title was brought up it was brought up after all of Kareems other accolades
Yeah: So my point is NO ONE CARES BRUH BRUH
@Blue.Marvel Oh and btw you do know only 8 players have played 20 years and 2 played 18
@@Blue.Marvel The top shooting guard is the only player in history to ave 30 a game...
90s all.stars shoot over 50%...
10s all stats shoot under 45%
RULES have become easier everyone knows that..
60s to 70s to 80s to 90s to 00s to 10s to 20s..
IF kids dont even understand that they shouldnt even talk about basketball.
WILT was stong as a BULL and he couldnt use his force unlike what kids may think...so of course in the 90s he would be even better...
THE same way with WEST and COUSY because they could change their hands and dribble with left or right without thinking that refs would call for transport...
YES players in the 60s could twist their wrists...so how can you dribble a ball to another hand without twisting your wrist...
Bruh, I've been a fan of this channel, but don't copy JxmyHighroller
how did I copy?
You agreed with JxmyHighroller on a point the commenter disagreed with.
Agreed would be the wrong word I think because it would imply that you have heard what Jxmy said and it's more than your opinions coincide.
@@Post2k69 HUMANS are getting weaker and dumber..so we arent evolving..
AND Basketball isnt evolving, changing doesnt mean evolving..if you move to something worse you arent evolving.
PLAYERS now are way worse..but of course kids who start watching basketaball yesterday think players now that cant even dribble that ball without carrying or dont have any fundamentals are better 🤣🤣🤣
@@Post2k69 I don't know which point it would be but it's obvious the original commenter is just butt hurt.
@@onlyfacts3178The average basketball player is better today but the star players in the 90’s would still be great today.
Jxmmyhighroller content , dislike.
thanks bro 🙏