Why Lightyear Never Worked

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  • Опубліковано 7 сер 2023
  • Lightyear was pixar's returned to theaters but it bombed, and knowing what has happened with elemental to moderate success, I thought it was now time to revisit more of why it didn't work for that return.
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  • @jessicanoelle2012jp
    @jessicanoelle2012jp 10 місяців тому +308

    I guess the most unbelievable thing about this movie being a fictional movie in Toy Story, is that SOX wasn't Andy's new toy.

    • @Lucid_PZPL
      @Lucid_PZPL 10 місяців тому +34

      They should’ve just said Buzz Lightyear was a real person and it would’ve made more sense

    • @jessicanoelle2012jp
      @jessicanoelle2012jp 10 місяців тому +21

      @Lucid_PZPL like Stinky Pete said, "once the astronauts went up". And Buzz was a play on Buzz Adlrin. Yeah I agree they should've done that, like Set in the 50s/60s and the astronauts got more than what they bargained for when they went into space.

    • @isaacvaldez4134
      @isaacvaldez4134 10 місяців тому +8

      ​@@jessicanoelle2012jp That sounds like a good idea.

    • @odindarkll3706
      @odindarkll3706 10 місяців тому +14

      Tbf, SOX was about as a half assed inclusion as the plot of the film. I don't get why Disney pretends that Buzz Lightyear Star Command didn't exist for not only two decades, they also didn't build nor make the spin off series a base for the setting at hand?

    • @jessicanoelle2012jp
      @jessicanoelle2012jp 10 місяців тому +5

      @odindarkll3706 true.
      But imagine Sox being what he was made to do "a therapy animal" for Andy. Maybe his dad left and Andy is acting funny and not playing with woody as much. Woody is going crazy and Sox is just analyzing BOTH him and Andy. Making woody realize that Andy is hurt about his dad and thus becomes a more selfless toy.
      Idk lol

  • @sophieamandaleitontoomey9343
    @sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 10 місяців тому +176

    No one was more excited for Lightyear than I was. I thought it was a real opportunity to expand upon Buzz the character and make an exciting space adventure that expanded upon the lore in a different way.
    Instead, I got a boring ass movie that made Buzz lifeless, ruined the most iconic Pixar villain, and was not a celebration of Buzz Lightyear.
    It amazes me that they screwed up so badly with a movie that was the easiest thing to get right.

    • @apocalypseofplush
      @apocalypseofplush 10 місяців тому +10

      DUDE I KNOW, RIGHT?!?

    • @elimejia5749
      @elimejia5749 10 місяців тому +5

      I'm glad I skipped this film and watch Minions rise of gru instead. I watch lightyear when it came on Disney plus.

    • @connorwood9211
      @connorwood9211 10 місяців тому +8

      Just check out the animated movie and tv show. Had everything you just described

    • @fist-of-doom487
      @fist-of-doom487 9 місяців тому +5

      The cartoon is everything you’d expect the movie to be. Do what I did and pretend the movie never happened

    • @elimejia5749
      @elimejia5749 9 місяців тому

      @@fist-of-doom487 fully agreed, watch the first 3 toy story film. Yeah uh don't know if toy story 4 is better or worse then lightyear

  • @sharzinlalebazri5673
    @sharzinlalebazri5673 10 місяців тому +94

    All of its other failures aside, this movie made one fatal mistake and that was botching the ONE THING it was supposed to do: convince us that someone would buy a Buzz Lightyear toy after seeing it.

    • @rosykindbunny1313
      @rosykindbunny1313 10 місяців тому +15

      I would rather buy a Sox toy

    • @darkwoods1954
      @darkwoods1954 10 місяців тому +6

      The toyline for the film went to discount then was cancelled early with revealed toys never getting released. So no way a kid in the 90s would have wanted toys after seeing the dull film.

  • @knucklesmclean
    @knucklesmclean 10 місяців тому +71

    Lightyear: I'm the most definitive aspect of Andy getting his Buzz Lightyear toy
    Buzz Lightyear of Star Command: Am I a joke to you?

  • @MrGabeanator
    @MrGabeanator 10 місяців тому +40

    to be honest buzz lightyear of star command seemed more like a cartoon andy would watch rather than this movie

  • @kingagrabowska9366
    @kingagrabowska9366 10 місяців тому +107

    - The granddaughter doesn't know about the ''to infinity and beyond'' even tho it was a thing her grandmother did with Buzz, has she never mentioned it in her books? She was in the room when her grandmother did that, finger and all.
    - Invisible mode was the granddaughter's idea but she doesn't know about the time limit?
    - She is afraid of space? Why? Did she have a traumatic accident? Her grandmother died of old age, not in space.
    - The way how they are trapped but still able to move and merge and destroy the panel that lets them free. Who made this?
    - When the car makes a sound the bugs attack people instead of going outside where the sound was coming from.
    - The old lady can take three things and make them explode. It's just lazy writing to make you believe she can do that. Also, was she failing for years or did she just now wants to be a space ranger?
    - Taika Waititi's character has a pen. Why would you need a pen if the technology is beyond paper, especially in space?
    - Time paradox. If Buzz went back in time to stop the crush there would've been no reason to test the fuel and he wouldn't find what he needs to time travel.
    - Also, how lucky that he just found everything he would need, including a spaceship with robots that can only say Zurg, for his crazy plan to work.
    - Everybody thought that Zurg would be Buzz's father but they changed it to be ''subversive''.
    - Anything involving robot cat that just saves their asses.
    - ''References'' to Star Wars, Halo, and many other Sci-Fi I don't get. Your movie has to stand on its own! Shrek has a bunch of references but also an interesting world and jokes of its own.
    There are probably hundreds more problems that I don't have the energy to type out.

    • @NotThisAnonymous
      @NotThisAnonymous 10 місяців тому +7

      All of these are definitely true and annoyed me when I watched the movie lol, the only exception being the fear of space. People are scared of the most random things for literally no reason (there’s literally a phobia that’s the fear of the colour yellow), so it’s entirely plausible that she’s scared of space, but tbh that part of the movie didn’t really make a lot of sense to me and it just seemed like the fear was only added in at the last minute for plot purposes because it wasn’t shown AT ALL (that I remember) that she was scared of space before when it was brought up.
      (Btw I’m not trying to be rude, I just thought I’d say that in case you didn’t realise. You still have a point, it’s a bit weird and very random that she’s scared of space)

    • @ahanaroyc.1330
      @ahanaroyc.1330 10 місяців тому +14

      another thought: the plot only moves forward when the rookie characters do something stupid
      That's terrible writing

    • @kingagrabowska9366
      @kingagrabowska9366 10 місяців тому +8

      @@ahanaroyc.1330 Pixar themselves wrote in their rules of storytelling ''Coincidences to get characters into trouble are great; coincidences to get them out of it are cheating.''

    • @NotThisAnonymous
      @NotThisAnonymous 10 місяців тому +6

      @@ahanaroyc.1330 Yesss, oh my gosh exactlyyyy, that’s my main problem with the movie lol

    • @spiringstream_3551
      @spiringstream_3551 10 місяців тому +1

      @kingagrabowska9366 Most of your points you made are very similar to @GamingMagic13 rant on Lightyear. You’re right about everything.

  • @battybuddy
    @battybuddy 10 місяців тому +40

    As I repeatedly put it, you take a guy whose catchphrase is "to infinity and beyond" and you trap him on a bland planet and make the lesson to settle down and cut your losses.

    • @battybuddy
      @battybuddy 10 місяців тому +9

      Also, in regards to Zurg- I was like "Does anyone know what happens if you time travel and kill your past self? ANYONE?!?"

  • @aidanhever3369
    @aidanhever3369 10 місяців тому +28

    This is like the infamous third part/prequel to The Little Mermaid. They did it as an excuse to pretend the animated series never happened just because the original creators hate it. Instead of being superior as they had hoped, it was the final nail in the coffin for the notorious series of the DTV sequels to the Disney classics.

    • @maniacaldude
      @maniacaldude 10 місяців тому +2

      I thought the reason the DTV sequels stopped being made was because John Lasseter mandated it when he became CCO for Walt Disney Animation.

  • @superfanmusicmaker
    @superfanmusicmaker 10 місяців тому +85

    When it was first announced, I was under the impression that the movie was basically going to be an in-universe biopic for the "real" astronaut that inspired the toy Buzz. So it wouldn't have Zurg, aliens, etc, and it'd be more gritty and realistic like Gravity or First Man.
    But the actual film claims that it's the fictional movie Andy saw before he got his Buzz toy, and they even straight up say it was 1995. With that in mind, it would have made way more sense to actually make something closer to a 80's/90's sci-fi action movie rather than modern day one.

    • @Sachistar7591
      @Sachistar7591 9 місяців тому +7

      Exactly. By design 90s action movies are gimmicky and wacky with a lot of need to suspend disbelief.

  • @mikep9143
    @mikep9143 10 місяців тому +42

    I really believe Pixar could pull off a Sci-fi epic similar to Star Trek, Dune, or Interstellar without the “Lightyear” or “Toy Story” name. They could’ve made a whole original trilogy with an overarching storyline and interesting world building full of lore, but sadly we got Lightyear instead. Like I get it…money, profitability, etc, but come on, the potential was there.

    • @RogerS1978
      @RogerS1978 9 місяців тому

      I believe they could have, before they were taken over by Disney.

  • @PK-Radio
    @PK-Radio 10 місяців тому +50

    The buzz lightyear of star command movie made way more sense as the movie andy watched

    • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
      @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 10 місяців тому +11

      It makes more sense because it actually ties to the movies, even in the intro The Cast of Toy Story watch the shows

    • @judebaun9993
      @judebaun9993 10 місяців тому +3

      @@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375exactly.

  • @tjsmith5276
    @tjsmith5276 10 місяців тому +54

    I wanted to see a vibrantly colorful somewhat wacky film where Buzz was portrayed as a little bit cocky on the surface but also sweet. Where Zurg was an actual villain who maybe has a right-hand man or woman that fills the audience with terror. One movie that gave me a few of those things is "My Little Pony: The Movie." If this movie would have been more like that, it might have drawn more people to go and see it.

    • @princesserika9899
      @princesserika9899 10 місяців тому

      Which My Little Pony movie are you talking about? 😶

    • @tjsmith5276
      @tjsmith5276 10 місяців тому +9

      @@princesserika9899 The one that came out in 2017. The main villain was kind of goofy but he had a female character working for him who was super menacing and actually gave you chills.

    • @johannesseyfried7933
      @johannesseyfried7933 10 місяців тому

      ​@@princesserika9899It took me a moment to realize: Yes, of course there are multiple. 😅

    • @princesserika9899
      @princesserika9899 10 місяців тому +2

      @@tjsmith5276 Ohhh, you mean Storm King and Fizzlepop Berrytwist-- I mean Tempest?

    • @tjsmith5276
      @tjsmith5276 10 місяців тому +1

      @@princesserika9899 correct.

  • @Fusilier7
    @Fusilier7 10 місяців тому +26

    I'm convinced Pixar wanted to make another Toy Story film, without Woody and the other toys, so they decided to make a Buzz Lightyear film, hoping enough people would have forgotten the 2000s cartoon series - Buzz Lightyear of Star Command. Unfortunately, Pixar has greenlit a fifth Toy Story film, going down the same route that doomed Ice Age, It's very disappointing Pixar could make something awesome, only turn 180 with some generic dribble. Moreover, I recommend BLoSC, it's a fun and creative cartoon, it is everything the film tried to be, novelty is what the audience is craving, we get enough generic gruel, now we want gourmet.

  • @shadowleon659
    @shadowleon659 10 місяців тому +12

    It's mostly because we had the original Buzz Lightyear of Star Command and it's animated series.

  • @edwardsaldana2534
    @edwardsaldana2534 10 місяців тому +30

    Why are we even getting Toy Story 5 when this movie FAILED

    • @sophieamandaleitontoomey9343
      @sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 10 місяців тому +10

      Right? That should have been your hint Disney! Why can’t you just let go? Stop ruining the Toy Story universe.

    • @hunterolaughlin
      @hunterolaughlin 10 місяців тому +12

      “Money! Money! Money!” - One-Eyed Bart (Mr. Potato Head) (Toy Story - 1995)

    • @superfanmusicmaker
      @superfanmusicmaker 10 місяців тому +9

      We're getting Toy Story 5 _because_ this movie failed.

    • @elemomnialpha
      @elemomnialpha 10 місяців тому

      Because 4 didn't

    • @lugbzurg8987
      @lugbzurg8987 10 місяців тому

      Lightyear is to the Toy Story franchise what DmC: Devil May Cry is to Devil May Cry, at least in this regard.
      (At least DmC was more colorful, inventive, and had marginally-better characters, in contrast to Lightyear.)

  • @lucymiau5700
    @lucymiau5700 10 місяців тому +17

    They should have made this Movie as a conventional SciFi Story and not as a Buzz Lightyear Story. With the ToyStory label tacked on, it cannot work. Buzz needs to be appeal to kids. But this version of Buzz is more appealing to young Adults.

  • @chava102
    @chava102 10 місяців тому +12

    Patrick Warburton was and is more Buzz Lightyear than Chris Evans will ever be!

  • @Alois_from_Vienna_in_Austria
    @Alois_from_Vienna_in_Austria 10 місяців тому +13

    Lightyear bombed because it was a bait and switch and the target groups noticed it. The Lightyear in the movie has almost nothing to do with the lightyear from the other Toystory stuff. Also Disney-Pixar failed to tell the poeple why they should watch the movie and instead concentrated in the marketing on the first lesbian couple in a Disney-Pixar movie. That was very similar to Strange World.

  • @KaeMcSpadden
    @KaeMcSpadden 10 місяців тому +13

    The other problem with the grounded realistic and gritty design is that it causes Buzz’s iconic suit and Zurg to look very out of place with their cartoony designs.

  • @thebigidea9659
    @thebigidea9659 10 місяців тому +8

    I was immensely disappointed that they didnt make something similar to Star Command. This was such an easy win for Pixar to just make a pulp fiction sci fi movie.
    What were they thinking?

  • @80sKidfromthe90s
    @80sKidfromthe90s 10 місяців тому +7

    I really wish they would have gone with the original idea of Buzz’s father Larry Lightyear becoming Zurg.

    • @lugbzurg8987
      @lugbzurg8987 10 місяців тому +1

      His name is "Larry"!?

    • @hunterolaughlin
      @hunterolaughlin 10 місяців тому +5

      @@lugbzurg8987I think the name comes from an original name idea for Buzz during development of Toy Story which was “Lunar Larry”. Yeah… I think we can all agree the crew all made the right choice going with the name “Buzz Lightyear”.

    • @reecepierce
      @reecepierce 10 місяців тому

      But buzz's dad is larry in deleted scenes it never said larry was zurg

  • @92JazzQueen
    @92JazzQueen 10 місяців тому +12

    Biggest thing why the gay suplot doesn't work is because of the fact it's 1995 and it's a family film which back then wouldn't fly due to how people were not yet open to that.

    • @Vilgax00
      @Vilgax00 10 місяців тому +4

      Thats what ı said.

    • @darthcaro
      @darthcaro 10 місяців тому +2

      even nowadays people don’t want that in their family films

    • @RavenclawDaisy95
      @RavenclawDaisy95 8 місяців тому

      Well, some films in the 90s had SUBTLE gay substance. It wasn't the center, more like in one scene, or in the background.
      One movie that comes to mind is Mrs. Doubtfire, Robin's character's brother was gay had a male partner, and the only scene they appeared in was the face makeup scene.

    • @92JazzQueen
      @92JazzQueen 8 місяців тому +2

      @@RavenclawDaisy95 and it was pg 13 instead of pg.

  • @bohgirl11
    @bohgirl11 10 місяців тому +36

    TV Spots: "Lightyear is Pixar's triumphant return to theaters."
    Box Office: "NOPE."
    Elemental: "We'll take that title, thank you."

  • @giorgimamalashvili4220
    @giorgimamalashvili4220 10 місяців тому +14

    How was this Andy's favourite movie? If i was a kid i probably would've gotten bored halfway through.

    • @brunnokamei9623
      @brunnokamei9623 10 місяців тому

      Tbf, children tend to have crappy taste. I mean, I liked "Son of the Mask" when I was a child...

    • @hunterolaughlin
      @hunterolaughlin 10 місяців тому

      @@brunnokamei9623I’m surprised you managed to not have any nightmares from that film. That film would’ve more scared kids ironically.

  • @KaeMcSpadden
    @KaeMcSpadden 10 місяців тому +9

    And what is bad that Lightyear could have worked if they made it a fun colorful sci-fi adventure similar to something like The Fifth Element, The Jetsons, Beyond Good and Evil, and Ratchet and Clank. Instead we got a sad, gloomy, Interstellar and Annihilation knock off.

  • @CrazyKungfuGirl
    @CrazyKungfuGirl 10 місяців тому +8

    I would sum up the problem as "how did this movie result in that toy? And why would a child want to watch something this grim?"

  • @TheDr502
    @TheDr502 10 місяців тому +5

    -No toys coming alive when humans aren't present
    -No bright, cheerful colors
    -No playful little children
    -No toys rescuing each other from certain doom
    -No toys at all, really.
    -Dark visuals with realistically rendered environments
    "Let's tie it to Toy Story!" - Someone at Pixar
    Buzz Lightyear was apart of a toy line marketed by cheesy commercials and a silly action cartoon (Buzz Lightyear of Star Command). Buzz Lightyear was a riff on whacky 1990s action cartoons that were meant to sell toys to kids, like Ninja Turtles, Swat Katz, Street Sharks, or Road Rovers. That's what this movie should've been, a movie inspired by 1990s action cartoons. Hell, the movie explicitly states that this was the movie that Andy saw back in 1995.
    Lightyear looks nothing like this. If they wanted to make a super-serious space drama, then they should've made a new movie.
    Now that I think about, this movie also looks really freaking detailed for a CGI movie from 1995. It's like the animators hopped in a time machine, went forward about 25-30 years, and then came back with cutting-edge supercomputers. Back in 1995, Toy Story 1 was as good as CGI got. Otherwise, most theatrical and straight-to-VHS animated movies in the 1990s were hand-drawn. This movie should've looked like The Lion King, Prince of Egypt, or Pocahontas, for example. Would've helped it stand out, too methinks.

  • @jonahdengler3858
    @jonahdengler3858 10 місяців тому +8

    Shame on you writers for creating Zurg into a future Buzz! 🤨

  • @DRYeisleysCreations
    @DRYeisleysCreations 10 місяців тому +5

    John Lasseter would've made a better standalone Lightyear movie.
    Change my mind.

  • @nas0518
    @nas0518 10 місяців тому +22

    Zurg's twist is one of reasons why Lightyear is such a bland mixed bag.

  • @giorgimamalashvili4220
    @giorgimamalashvili4220 10 місяців тому +9

    I wanted a fun, entertaining and exciting movie not a boring, bland and lifeless film that manages to butcher the titular character and i kid you not make the worst possible twist villain in Disney's recent movie catalogue imaginable.
    This film would and SHOULD've been good but MAN did they mess up bad...i feel embarrassed for even trying to sort of defend this movie with a cautious optimism.

  • @wallygator92
    @wallygator92 10 місяців тому +6

    This movie would have been better if it had been a homage to old space adventure movies and TV shows like Flash Gordon.

  • @RLDragonStrider
    @RLDragonStrider 10 місяців тому +6

    The sad part is. I really like the visual style and overall look of this movie. The ships, the tech the clothes the overall early 90s sci-fi feel and dirty grunge looks amazing. That dosent save the movie from being a dumpsterfire though. Shame it could not be a better story with this awesome visual design.

  • @self-absorbed5269
    @self-absorbed5269 10 місяців тому +4

    This movie feels like they are trying to make an example out of remakes.
    But it just proved that making an examples of others makes an example of you.
    You can't comment forever , especially when you're making entertainment.
    Hunchback did the same message better "life is not a spectator sport."

  • @Thought_Processing_
    @Thought_Processing_ 10 місяців тому +3

    Honestly I thought it would be about buzz testing a ship accidentally shot putting himself and maybe crew halfway across the Galaxy and discovering an evil emperor Zurg planning to invade and desperately trying to get back to warn everyone first.

    • @lugbzurg8987
      @lugbzurg8987 10 місяців тому +1

      This basically sounds like the backstory of Serious Sam!

    • @Thought_Processing_
      @Thought_Processing_ 10 місяців тому

      @@lugbzurg8987 Wouldn't know never seen that.

  • @matthiasneidenberger9471
    @matthiasneidenberger9471 7 місяців тому +1

    I remember making a joke with some friends about how it was obvious Zurg was actually future Sox, but when we actually saw what happened we all said, that would’ve actually been a better twist than what we got.

  • @skyworksreferenceart8986
    @skyworksreferenceart8986 10 місяців тому +8

    if anything I would describe lightyear as a great representation of how far computer animation has gotten as you can't deny the movie was stunning and their was a whole lot of eye candy to go around; unfortunately the story was not well put together and all around failed most peoples expectations for this movie when it first came out.
    ill tell you the hype for light year before it came out was pretty good and i for one was excited to see it...... well, was excited to see it until I actually saw it and all that hype vanished almost as fast as it came out. and you know what I find it funny how lightyear was expected to be a box office hit then failed and then came around elemental which everyone thought it was gonna be a box office bomb (which it was for a bit) until word of mouth turned it into the success it is and that in my mind is ironic lol.

    • @lugbzurg8987
      @lugbzurg8987 10 місяців тому +1

      I can deny it. The film's ugly as dirt. Quite literally for a large chunk of it.

    • @skyworksreferenceart8986
      @skyworksreferenceart8986 10 місяців тому

      @lugbzurg8987 well agree to disagree but I respect your opinion

  • @crazyt7270
    @crazyt7270 10 місяців тому +10

    The reason why Lightyear never worked it's because it wasn't Buzz Lightyear of Star Command the already perfect origin story of Buzz Lightyear that is 100 times better than this crap movie that was never needed in the first place.

  • @kingagrabowska9366
    @kingagrabowska9366 10 місяців тому +12

    This movie fails to appeal to anyone it was trying to appeal to.
    - It fails to appeal to LGBT supporters because there is only a 2-second lesbian kiss that would've been edited out for less accepting countries and was later added again after people pointed it out. But people still won't watch a bad/boring movie for one scene. You can't have it both ways! Either make an LGBT movie with a budget that takes into consideration that the movie won't be released everywhere.
    - Parents with small children would rather not have to have a talk about LGBT. Also, the lesbian couple gets together and one of them is shown being pregnant. Kids may not know where the babies come from but they know there needs to be ''mommy and daddy''. I don't think the parents want to talk about in vitro or the possibility that she just asked some guy to get her pregnant so she and her wife can have a baby.
    - But Toy Story is a franchise from the 90s. I bet people who grew up with it and people who don't mind this one scene would be more than enough to make this movie a huge hit. Except people already know the backstory of Buzz because it's a parody of Star Wars and they retcon it in the movie anyway, so what's the point of watching it?
    - And don't give me the ''they wanted to appeal to a wider audience''. Toy Story already has a huge audience. And why would people unfamiliar with and who are not fans of Toy Story would want to watch a spinoff movie which has so many references that they won't get?
    Besides those two scenes (gay kiss and future Buzz being Zurg) the whole movie is just a bore. With the trailer failing to engage people, it feeling like a cash grab and inflation people just decided they could watch it on Disney+ and forgot all about it.

    • @Commenter839
      @Commenter839 10 місяців тому +5

      Honestly I think my only real issue with the lesbian scene is that this was supposed to be a mainstream movie that was made before 1995. There's no way in hell an interracial lesbian kiss would be used as anything more than a gag in that era. It would be like if a popular movie from 1935 showcased a black person with a respectable life and authority over a white person- it may be "inclusive", but it's not really indicative of the time period

    • @itzwitherfx
      @itzwitherfx 10 місяців тому +2

      I will be honest with the gay kiss scene, it did almost make me feel like leaving cuz I thought that was gonna appear more throughout the movie and i was questioning if the movie was a lgbt one or not since i wasnt expecting to see that in a film for kids. Also, future buzz being zurg just messes up everything now and it makes the entire timeline confusing and lost.
      Disney is trying to expand its audience with the lgbt stuff and it doesnt even have to put lgbt in their films to get viewers because im pretty sure they already were viewers anyways. Its pointless, unnecessary and just plain stupid! Plus, we already know Disney is abusing diversity a lot more in their films just for attention.
      Film overall just wasnt interesting enough besides its impressions for its looks but it didnt work because every film nowadays seems to care more about the look instead of the plot. And with Toy Story 5 coming out, I think im gonna start watching dreamworks since theyre doing better and still making actual films with actual plots.

    • @renmcmanus
      @renmcmanus 10 місяців тому +3

      I'm sure you will take this the wrong way. But actively appealing to the LGBT when your movie needs to make hundreds of millions if not a billion is a bad idea in the first place. The LGBT is not and can never be the majority of the population. Well not for long anyway. If the diversity in media prime argument is correct. That people need to see themselves in media to connect with it. Then you are inherently aiming to NOT connect with the majority of people. That is fine if that's what you want to do. But its not getting you a billion dollars.

    • @kingagrabowska9366
      @kingagrabowska9366 10 місяців тому +1

      @@renmcmanus I'm not taking it the wrong way. You are right. I don't believe in the stupid ''you need to see yourself in the character'' mantra. The story needs to be good and when you prioritize checking boxes the story usually is bad. And when you try to be as inoffensive as possible the characters tend to be bland and boring.

    • @renmcmanus
      @renmcmanus 10 місяців тому +1

      @@kingagrabowska9366 Thank you for listening. I agree completely good characters or unique stories are always the best option.

  • @samkilpatrick1259
    @samkilpatrick1259 10 місяців тому +5

    I don’t mind something like this existing, though it could’ve been way better than this.

  • @adampetty447
    @adampetty447 10 місяців тому +2

    The thing that got me was Tim Allen not returning as Buzz Lightyear.

  • @zoorockf1
    @zoorockf1 10 місяців тому +12

    One thing I’m inquisitive about with the female + Female love is how she got pregnant? They are in space, so they have all the material and objects prepared into space? Did they have everything predicted like if they wanted to camp during the odyssey and get children without having any woes or trepidations about the upcoming peril.
    It’s another reason why it’s a nadir Pixar movie, it wasn’t thought through

    • @MoRPho151
      @MoRPho151 10 місяців тому +6

      That detail was not so conflicting to me because the colony still had men (they could have co-parent with a men to get pregnant, the same way homosexual couples in real life do sometimes, it is not so well known because is stigmatized but those arrangements do happen... They usually involve artifitial insemination now, but if they didn´t had that option they still can do an arrangement in the "traditional" way, if you understand what I mean). For me it is more unbelievable that they were able to build a colony that advanced so fast and without nothing at the beginning, honestly in general they didn´t pay too much attention to those details. They just let it like: they are more advanced and can do anything technological at the new planet.

    • @JohnSmith-og1xq
      @JohnSmith-og1xq 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@MoRPho151 could've been a transwoman

    • @darthcaro
      @darthcaro 10 місяців тому

      because frick biology i guess 😂

    • @paulrasmussen8953
      @paulrasmussen8953 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@MoRPho151 if it was a planned colony i might buy ot bit it was a crash landing i don't see them having the tech on hand for it

  • @nan0smm646
    @nan0smm646 4 місяці тому +1

    Buzz Lightyear was clearly meant to be a "Transformers" type of franchise in-universe, he was not inspired by a movie, his toy inspired merchandise and movies.
    This movie could still be canon but as a "2010s live action reboot that a lot of people did not liked" for me.

  • @80sKidfromthe90s
    @80sKidfromthe90s 10 місяців тому +3

    I don’t like how they made Buzz immature.

  • @lordmegatrondoesntdodarken5852
    @lordmegatrondoesntdodarken5852 4 місяці тому +1

    I would've preferred Warp Darkmatter being the main bad guy.

  • @uanime1
    @uanime1 10 місяців тому +3

    Elementals has still lost millions of dollars. It needed to make $700 million to break even, it made $450 million.

    • @uanime1
      @uanime1 9 місяців тому

      @@deepwaterssss
      That would require a marketing budget of $50 million. What is your source for the marketing budget?

    • @uanime1
      @uanime1 9 місяців тому +2

      @@deepwaterssss
      "the marketing was just 100M from ScreenRant and Collider."
      So a production budget of 200 million and 100 million for marketing is 300 million.
      "And the general rule of thumb is that a film needs to break its production budget in order to break even."
      Unless you believe that theatres give studios 100% of the ticket revenue and a magical fairy pays for the marketing budget that is clearly wrong. Theatres take 50% of the ticket sales so a movie needs to make double its production and marketing budget to break even. So a movie with a total budget of 300 million needs to make at least 600 million to break even. More if the market budget is higher than 100 million.

  • @angrytheclown801
    @angrytheclown801 10 місяців тому +2

    They missed the point when they didn't start with an opening crawl titled Chapter 42:

  • @Unsweetened8618
    @Unsweetened8618 10 місяців тому +3

    When I first saw the trailer, I liked it. I was surprise it flopped, what bad reviews. I didn't see this movie in theater's, or Disney+

  • @Sachistar7591
    @Sachistar7591 9 місяців тому +1

    It didn’t work because this wasn’t believable as a 90’s action packed movie that Andy would be excited to see.

  • @mitchellalexander9162
    @mitchellalexander9162 10 місяців тому +1

    To this Day I will NEVER Understand why this Wasn't Just a CGI Remake of Buzz Lightyear of Star Command so we could get Booster, Mira Nova, XR, and Warp Darkmatter on Screen. Disney's No stranger to doing that to all of their other Movies to the point of Not just the Renaissance Films but LILO AND STITCH GETTING ONE IN THE PIPELINE!
    So Why not that one?

  • @alchemystudiosink1894
    @alchemystudiosink1894 9 місяців тому

    Lightyear is the live action remake of the move that andy saw.

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 2 місяці тому +1

    They should have said it was a REMAKE or REBOOT (or heck, even a prequel) of the show Andy watched, because there's _no way_ this movie could have been made in 1995. If its supposed to be live action in-universe, then their special effects are wayyy too good. If its supposed to be an _animated_ movie in-universe, that's also way too good for the time period...
    And most of all, they would NEVER have a lesbian couple kiss on-screen in a movie supposedly made around the time Andy was a kid. If the kiss was somehow "controversial" in today's time, can you imagine how much backlash they'd get in 1995? When same-sex couples were considered extremely taboo??? I can only suspend my disbelief so far.

  • @mysterioussunshine2026
    @mysterioussunshine2026 10 місяців тому +2

    Why didn't they make this movie similar to the light-year tv series

    • @reecepierce
      @reecepierce 10 місяців тому

      John Lasseter hates it

  • @arturosandovalsaito2704
    @arturosandovalsaito2704 10 місяців тому +1

    Even though I thought the movie was okay, it felt more like I was seeing the “live-action remake” of the movie Andy watched when he was a boy. (If you know what I mean) 😑

  • @DeadFishFactory
    @DeadFishFactory 10 місяців тому +5

    The gay kiss isn't what caused the movie to tank, but if they have it then it's indicative that the movie's gonna have other problems. The movie is straight up boring and the characters are extremely ugly other than Buzz himself because he's a legacy design.
    A Buzz Lightyear movie with no space and no aliens is stupid. It's like making a Star Trek movie but they crash land on a planet and we spend the entire movie watching them mine dilithium and constantly fail at it.

    • @sophieamandaleitontoomey9343
      @sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 10 місяців тому +2

      People caused so much drama for the gay kiss when it was like five seconds and overall added nothing to the narrative.

    • @paulrasmussen8953
      @paulrasmussen8953 9 місяців тому

      ​@@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343because parenrs are going to take kids to this movie and they don't want to address that issue yet. And its a red flag on the quality of the writing

  • @nemesisstars1527
    @nemesisstars1527 10 місяців тому

    They could of done similar to his toy counterpart even fighting against his father and such, they should of done a film about that which would of worked better

  • @michaelbrent1536
    @michaelbrent1536 10 місяців тому +1

    The prince of Egypt,The Matrix,Lion King(1997),Harry Potter Sorcerer Stone,Narnia The Lion Witch and Wardrob,Dreamwork Rise of Guardians,Nimona,Spiderverse,Sam Ramai Spider-Man and How to
    Train Dragon had great stories than this!

  • @calypsoparadisepunchlemonade
    @calypsoparadisepunchlemonade 4 місяці тому

    i think buzz looks uncanny as hell tbh like more than any human character in the 1995 film he looks like that mr incredible meme

  • @mardenborough.
    @mardenborough. 10 місяців тому +5

    Lightyear
    A movie with a villain
    It flopped
    Elemental
    A movie without a villain
    A success
    "BRING BACK DISNEY VILLAINS!" they said 😂😂

    • @dannysmi7162
      @dannysmi7162 9 місяців тому

      Yeah, good villains. A really bad villain is worse than no villain.

    • @paulrasmussen8953
      @paulrasmussen8953 9 місяців тому +2

      Elemental didn't really do good

  • @1234_Flux
    @1234_Flux 10 місяців тому +1

    This movie is such a disaster it's hard to believe it really exists. What in the hell were they thinking?

  • @maniacaldude
    @maniacaldude 10 місяців тому +7

    That opening text bothers me so much, because of how they're trying to pass this off as THE definitive Buzz Lightyear origin story, THE movie that inspired Andy in-universe to get the toy, when it ultimately proves to be anything but. Instead of a fun, imaginative action packed sci-fi adventure like one would expect this movie to be, it presents a boring convoluted slog that feels more catered to older audiences than the kids that would actually get invested in the character of Buzz, and retcons the lore that we all know from previous Toy Story movies and the Buzz Lightyear of Star Command show into something totally nonsensical. The opening text proves to be a big fat contradiction, a hollow lie to justify this movie's existence. Let's be real here, this is NOT the movie that Andy saw in 1995, this is the "darker and edgier" reboot of Buzz Lightyear that came out in Andy's adulthood and proved to be a let-down and a betrayal of its roots, much like what the sequel trilogy was to long-time Star Wars fans in the real world.
    I remember seeing announcements of Lightyear that gave the impression that it would be the in-universe biopic for the astronaut that inspired the Buzz Lightyear toy. I guess THAT turned out to be a lie as well.
    On the plus side, the trailer did inspire a pretty kick-ass remix of David Bowie's "Starman".

    • @rosykindbunny1313
      @rosykindbunny1313 10 місяців тому

      That remix was the one good thing that came out of this. Except maybe Sox. I love that little guy.

  • @Beani100
    @Beani100 10 місяців тому +1

    This Buzz made me feel like it was Captain America, which Evans has portrayed. I think he channelled Steve in this movie and didn't try to be 'energetic' or 'humorous'. I didn't find the scenes funny, it was more serious than humorous. Sox was cute and most people who saw this film wanted Sox, not Buzz (I was one I like Sox, he's cute). Lightyear of Star Command was better suited with regard to what Andy watched - the film he saw and said "Mom I want a Buzz toy'. This movie made people want Sox than Buzz. Also, Buzz was his own enemy. Couldn't Zurg just be a robot or his father.

    • @hunterolaughlin
      @hunterolaughlin 10 місяців тому +1

      Ironically, even Captain America could have his energetic and humorous moments in the MCU than his portrayal of Buzz Lightyear.

  • @rowlandandrew9597
    @rowlandandrew9597 10 місяців тому +2

    Hi Sox is the only good thing in this movie
    You have to love the robot cat
    And this is massively disappointing because Buzz is one of my favorite Disney hero and characters
    So just seeing how badly they missed the mark with Lightyear disappointing
    Buzz Lightyear of star command did the Buzz vs Zurg thing much more better in my opinion because it was fun and funny
    As mature of fact way isn't that movie on Disney plus yet
    It deserves to be on there

  • @sandragoheen4389
    @sandragoheen4389 6 місяців тому

    I really like lightyear it is better than Toy Story 4 and I really hope it gets a sequel

  • @StarKnight619
    @StarKnight619 5 місяців тому

    wow.......im far more glad that I never saw this movie because I would want my movie back

  • @OpticalSorcerer
    @OpticalSorcerer 10 місяців тому +6

    Maybe it's my own bias, but I wish Pixar would leave Toy Story alone and expand the world of The Incredibles.

    • @jamessteenwyk4703
      @jamessteenwyk4703 10 місяців тому

      Ehh, the first Incredibles is one of my favorite Pixar films, but the sequel was one of Pixar’s most generic movies. And I really don’t see them making a sequel that stands up to the original. I personally would rather them leave the Incredibles alone

    • @OpticalSorcerer
      @OpticalSorcerer 10 місяців тому

      @@jamessteenwyk4703 I enjoyed part 2 more than 1, personally. I think it gets looked down upon because it came out after the superhero craze, in contrast to part 1.

  • @blackprism5381
    @blackprism5381 10 місяців тому +1

    Do you wanna know what I hate it the most that this was the movie and he watched and this is what inspired him to get a bus light-year toy but somehow can’t even keep a good continuity I mean like how in the world did they reckon Zerg from being buzz light year’s father to buzz light year’s future version of himself how how do you messed up that late? Can you just need to remember that scene from the second movie? It’s not that hard.

    • @hunterolaughlin
      @hunterolaughlin 10 місяців тому

      That was just a joke to reference the “I am your father” line from Star Wars. It was never meant to be taken seriously. Heck, there’s even an episode of the Star Command cartoon where Zurg uses it as a distraction to throw off Buzz during their battle. So the show CONFIRMS Zurg is not Buzz’s father.

  • @DarthVoxyn
    @DarthVoxyn 10 місяців тому +3

    Regardless putting queerness into any movie is a HUGE turn-off. The vast majority of people are straight and while we accept that everyone has their choice who to sleep with, we don’t want that forced down our throats! I don’t even like ANY romance in my movies.

  • @eggstermin8
    @eggstermin8 10 місяців тому

    this movie feels like chris evans trying to justify steve rogers going back in time for peggy but using buzz lightyear as his cover

    • @Unsweetened8618
      @Unsweetened8618 9 місяців тому

      That dude ain't no movie star. Everything he does now, is surrounding around Marvel. He should've never retire from that role.

  • @odindarkll3706
    @odindarkll3706 10 місяців тому +3

    This movie is everything wrong with current Disney. From milking franchises that should of ended on Toy Story 3, forcing LGBT reps, to ruining their legacy character(s) by the dozens

  • @mray4784
    @mray4784 10 місяців тому +1

    What they did to Zurg was what make me hate the movie.

  • @jonahdengler3858
    @jonahdengler3858 10 місяців тому +1

    I wasn’t too sure this movie was very good right after I saw it in the theaters. 🤔😒

  • @KingOrest
    @KingOrest 9 місяців тому

    I swear that nobody watches movies/tv shows that came before.

  • @Halfort57
    @Halfort57 10 місяців тому +2

    Because it neeeded to be a Captain America meets Star Trek with a dash of Star Wars. Instead we got a dumbed down version of Interstellar. That's why...
    ...Oh and also because of its severe indentity crisis and ludicrous tone deaf recurring theme.

  • @reecepierce
    @reecepierce 10 місяців тому

    I thought lightyear would tell like how buzz became a space ranger and how he met commander nebula on morph(home planet based on tempus from morph buzz's original name with lunar larry) also i thought it explain buzz's parents i always wondered because of buzz lightyear of star command only mention his nana lightyear
    John Lasseter hates the cartoon series

    • @paulrasmussen8953
      @paulrasmussen8953 9 місяців тому +1

      John can be wrong

    • @reecepierce
      @reecepierce 9 місяців тому

      @paulrasmussen8953 I'm serious John Lasseter does hate buzz lightyear of star command

    • @paulrasmussen8953
      @paulrasmussen8953 9 місяців тому +1

      @@reecepierce i know abd he is allowed to be rwing on it

    • @reecepierce
      @reecepierce 9 місяців тому

      @@paulrasmussen8953 ok

  • @nicholassims9837
    @nicholassims9837 10 місяців тому +3

    The big question is why no LGMs ?

    • @reecepierce
      @reecepierce 10 місяців тому

      I know right probably because they pizza planet aliens

  • @Amexy-mr6lw
    @Amexy-mr6lw 10 місяців тому +2

    Am I the only one who thinks this movie is decent? Its kind of confusing, not as funny or wholesome as other Pixar movies and after the first 20 or so minutes it gets worse but it's kind of overhated imo. Elemental is much better though

    • @skyworksreferenceart8986
      @skyworksreferenceart8986 10 місяців тому +2

      if anything the best I could describe lightyear was great eye candy cause you gotta admit the movie was visually stunning. wished the same could be said about the story though.....
      also yes elemental is way better as a story and still has that stunning visuals imo

  • @LadyKjell
    @LadyKjell 10 місяців тому

    I would have enjoyed the movie if it wasn't branded and made to look like a Buzz Lightyear movie, and instead just... was its own IP. So much of "Lightyear" was potentially interesting, but it wasn't Buzz Lightyear; it feels like one of those video game mods that just reskins all the characters.

  • @levert2457
    @levert2457 9 місяців тому

    Okay I'm going to defend certain things from toy story 2 with with actually happen in this movie in the time period Andy would have watched this movie.
    Video game adaptations might not be exactly what's going on here there's a good chance bus like you was a comic that has a movie adaptation on the way in a different company that has the game rights to us like you probably use the source materials to make the game months before the actual movie came out or even after showing two very different continues so I'm going to say Andy may have watched this and enjoyed it but the toy and merchandise had nothing to do with it.

  • @elishabarkley7625
    @elishabarkley7625 9 місяців тому

    Honestly i liked lightyear. Didn't understand all the hate

  • @PelemusMcSoy
    @PelemusMcSoy 9 місяців тому

    A quick reminder on the two women kissing criticism. Many people were annoyed with the preemptive "if you don't like this movie, you're homophobic" attitude. Because this type of delfection has been in full swing for years, it made people (correctly) suspect the film was going to be bad, and that angered the creators and actors enough to lash out at potential customers.

  • @lovelaceackah216
    @lovelaceackah216 10 місяців тому

    Honestly when first heard of Lightyear I was excited at first but turning red I didn’t really care about when Saw yeah I was disappointed but turning red I love it and better then Lightyear

  • @marialopez-ql9ec
    @marialopez-ql9ec 9 місяців тому +1

    When I first saw the trailer I was so amazed and mind blown, I mean it just looked to beautiful with the beautiful music, no joke it almost made me cry. And I was so excited to see Buzz go up against Zurg on another planet with a big machine on and for them to be revealed that service actually his father, I was so excited that this was going to be a film coming in 2022 and I really really want it to be great…but no, instead it was the dumbest movie with the stupidest player that has nothing to do with anything that toy buzz said in the first movie, and I had stupid woke gay lesbians just to make itself look good, and worst of all, as you don’t know…Zurg is not him fucking father! I hate this movie so much because of how much potential and wasted and how it could’ve been so much more. Everything was so cringe and unfunny. I had literally no reaction after the first 10 minutes of watching it, and after I was just mad at it. This is the biggest disappointment that Pixar, or Disney has ever made, heck it’s the most disappointing movie in existence for me personally. I hope they never do anything like this ever again.
    I did like Sox tho

  • @darkwoods1954
    @darkwoods1954 10 місяців тому +2

    They stripped the film of everything you'd want and expect from a Buzz Lightyear film. Instead of to infinity and beyond it was to one dull, lifeless planet and no further. They sapped the color out of it. Gave us a group of annoying, boring characters. Where was Star Command and the big, colorful space action adventures? The Buzz Lightyear of Star Command cartoon series is far better. It wasn't anything like a 90s sci-fi action movie that a little boy like Andy would watch and fall in love with. The human designs are so ugly too with the big ears and noses.

  • @MrJackfriday
    @MrJackfriday 9 місяців тому

    about two girls kissing? yeah im not for it. dont want this to be mainstream... me not buying tickets is just my message to them.

  • @SBaker-my8ot
    @SBaker-my8ot 10 місяців тому +2

    I think a lot of people are missing the point that Lightyear might have been intended to be seen as a movie from the 90s, around the time Toy Story proper was released, and implied to take place in.
    Lightyear actually works if you view the film as a lost movie meant for the 1990s, that was only rediscovered in the present day. And don’t be “Umm, actually…”, you know what most movies from the 90s that aren’t Jurassic Park, or Independence Day, are like…

  • @joaquinm9148
    @joaquinm9148 10 місяців тому +3

    Lightyear: I’m the worst animated movie of 2022
    The Sea Beast: bruh

    • @hunterolaughlin
      @hunterolaughlin 10 місяців тому +5

      Actually, The Sea Beast is better than Lightyear even with its similarities to How to Train Your Dragon.

    • @joaquinm9148
      @joaquinm9148 10 місяців тому

      @@hunterolaughlin Bruh the lightning looks absolutely terrible and the dialogue is just “haha Bri’ish”

    • @hunterolaughlin
      @hunterolaughlin 10 місяців тому +1

      @@joaquinm9148 Still better than Lightyear.

    • @AmericaFuckYeah4
      @AmericaFuckYeah4 10 місяців тому +1

      Strange World is Worse

    • @joaquinm9148
      @joaquinm9148 10 місяців тому

      @@hunterolaughlin How? Lightyear tackles letting go of the past and not regretting your past mistakes every single day of your life (something I’ve done many times before)
      What does The Sea Beast teach me? How to speak British? I already knew that from GradeAUnderA’s videos anyway

  • @lizafootfor5471
    @lizafootfor5471 10 місяців тому

    Sometimes, a tale with a dark tone doesn't excuse its mediocre storytelling and this shows.

  • @andreasmeelie1889
    @andreasmeelie1889 10 місяців тому +3

    If you think about it this is like if Andy was all grown up and took his kids to see a Buzz Lightyear movie because he wants his kids to grow up with Buzz Lightyear like he did.
    Only to find out much to his major disappointment that it's nothing but a cash grab movie that doesn't even follow the character that he loved so much at all.
    Then he abandons it and forgets that it ever existed. Lol
    I saw someone in a comment actually mention that once on a Lightyear video but I added in that last part. Lol
    I love the movie, Lightyear, but I couldn't agree more and Disney and Pixar really should have known better.

    • @hunterolaughlin
      @hunterolaughlin 10 місяців тому +1

      Actually, Angus MacLaine, the director of Lightyear, directed the CGI openings for the Star Command film and series and it’s never been reported he hated the show. It’s actually Toy Story creator John Lasseter that hates the SC series and film.

    • @andreasmeelie1889
      @andreasmeelie1889 10 місяців тому +1

      @@hunterolaughlin
      Oh I either got that fact wrong or that person got it wrong. Lol
      Thanks for correcting me.😇

  • @nehemiahpouncey3607
    @nehemiahpouncey3607 9 місяців тому

    The black guy was pretty much the son of the woman.

  • @TheHighwaymanC-wo7dc
    @TheHighwaymanC-wo7dc 9 місяців тому +1

    I do want to say in defense of the parents who didn't want they're kids to see Lightyear because of the whole gay agenda is because they didn't want to have to introduce the idea yet. Although, I do agree that Lightyear instead failed mainly do to it being a boring, completely degrading and ruining Buzz's character, a generic movie, and overall just not well made or well written

  • @joecoolskywalker
    @joecoolskywalker 10 місяців тому

    In All Honesty I Forgot This Movie Was Coming Out And I Watched On A Flight And Didn’t Like It The Only Good Thing Was The Animation Of Course

  • @paulrasmussen8953
    @paulrasmussen8953 9 місяців тому

    Note of rhis was a 90s era film there would be no gay scene period

  • @flyingfish7787
    @flyingfish7787 9 місяців тому +1

    Even without the alphabet stuff in the movie, the story is just bad, and so much wasted potentials.
    Disney slapped wokeness on every recent movie to protect their ego when their movies was criticized.
    This stupid move prevents them form making the same mistake again and again, since they can blame everything on XX-ist to protect their glass made hearts, instead of learning from mistakes.
    The costumes of the seven non-dwarves in new Snow White is really hilariously bad, and that has nothing to do with politics.
    However, Disney won’t learn a thing, because they can blame anything on xx-ist again and again, till they become the face of bad movie company which attack fans repeatedly every single time they release a new movie.

  • @switchboy2320
    @switchboy2320 10 місяців тому

    Chris evens was ok but the movie was rushed. And now pixar has the same faith as star wars did

  • @featherguardian6023
    @featherguardian6023 10 місяців тому +2

    Aside of it’s Problems and Flaws I Like Lightyear as an Alternated Reality, it’s a Solid Film but it wasn’t enough to save it and it’s a Bad Stain for Pixar, to me it’s an Overrated Movie that could be a Cult Following but even there’s Limits and Slim Chances.

  • @JayRedGear
    @JayRedGear 10 місяців тому +2

    The movie looks and feels so bland. Nothing about it is interesting and the side characters are just boring humans compared to the colorful cast of different aliens from the show.

  • @darthcaro
    @darthcaro 10 місяців тому +1

    they’re shoving so much woke stuff on us in the new movies. a lot of people don’t want certain adult topics shown to their children and that’s a big reason why movies like this flopped.

  • @karamixon5815
    @karamixon5815 9 місяців тому

    The Owl house had better is.....KISS!😎Eat it.

  • @meltingfire_alt
    @meltingfire_alt 9 місяців тому

    as someone who liked this movie (I'm a zurg stan, i thought the design for him was good and the concept was cool) I agree.