I ride a Trek Domane SL5 - I have upgraded the handlebars with XXX carbon and ultegra pedals. No hanging bags - very streamline. Incrediblly comfortable with the ISO, it’s not a gimmick - it works. I have slip disks after my rugby years. It’s insane I can go on for 5/6 hours on the saddle and I feel ok!
@@rawmen8442 check trek domane sl5 on their official website. Iso speed is a suspension feature. There’s a video which will explain how it works. It’s fantastic.
2021 Trek Domane SL5. I've fallen in love with cycling again on this bike. Mostly doing 30 - 60 mile rides on paved roads. Upgrades include 4iiii Dual Power Meter, DT Swiss ER1600 Wheels, Ultegra PD-8000 pedals, Continental Grand Prix 5000 32C tires, and my favorite upgrade is the K-EDGE Pro chain catcher. It's not the fastest or stiffest bike on the market but it cruises for miles in comfort.
If you want to be competitive, then spend the thousands of dollars you'll need to race. Or, if you just want to stay in shape, a heavier bike is going to get you in shape faster than any carbon fiber bike will. It all depends on what you want to get from riding.
I think you should have noted the Merida Scultura Endurance. It’s a very good bike with amazing value for money, great tyre clearance and mudguard mounts.
I own a 21 Specialized Roubaix comp and absolute love the geometry of it along with the smoothness of Ultegra and Futureshock 1.5 and perfectly represents the title of this video "speed is nothing without comfort". My roubaix is also crazy fast!
I went out to buy a Giant Defy in 2017 (it had won a few Bike of the Year awards).. I had a test ride and it was great .. THEN.. the bike shop said I should try the Trek Domane SL5 while I was there. It took all of about 100 metres for me to buy the Trek. It's next level comfort. Because I was doing lots of long distance Audax riding at the time comfort is everything. The Domane is still the fastest bike I ever owned but, over longer distances, it really comes into its own. because it's fast for longer, without becoming uncomfortable. No, it's not a Road-Racer like the Madone, but I can't make use of the Madone's "Head down, Arse Up" geometry any more.
I’m a big fan of top tube bag attachment points, especially on this type of a bike. They’ll often be ridden for longer periods of time, without the worry of tweaking every last bit of speed out of the situation. A good top tube bag provides easiest access to things like snacks, jackets, and phones (over a saddle or handlebar bag) and attachment points make it look that much more sleek, with fewer points rubbing on the frame. I’d be a big fan of all endurance category bikes adding these sorts of mounts - especially with them being easy to simply ignore if you don’t want to use them.
Wrong and this misleading video has been reporting to the authority. You're delusional and You'll be reported too for misleading the public about these race bikes designed for racing at full speed.
One of the best and most popular endurance bikes is Bianchi Infinito. I had a chance to ride this model and fell in love with it. Don't vorget it for your next review. I personally own Colnago Cx Zero from 2014, which is also very comfrtoable, but still with caliper brakes and perhaps with less atractive painting.
Thanks for the overview. I know they're not designed as Gravel bikes, but given tyre width (and lower pressure) is probably the cheapest and easiest way to get comfort on a road bike, it would've been good to know what the max. tyre width is for each of these various bikes, rather than just that they have increased clearance for "wider" tyres.
Amazing that you made the whole video without once uttering the word gravel. In 2019 when I was shopping, I initially wanted the Giant Defy, but the Revolt was simply a more versatile, affordable and, let’s face it, fun option. It appears now that the Defy has taken on some Revolt features. I expect that bike manufacturers would prefer that these segments not contract lest they lose market share, hence the recent push to reclaim a new sweet spot.
Really surprised the Ribble Endurance didn’t make it into the video. Full carbon, customization options, mudguard mounts, huge tire clearance, and incredible value for money.
@@davidwhite3702 it’s racy despite the endurance name. I’ve tested one and thought it was great. There are tons of reviews in the cycling magazine and websites, all rating it extremely highly. I think it was Bike of the Year in 2020 or 2021 at a couple of the top mags/sites
... for my road bike, I purchased a new 2013' Domane 5.2 ... w/ a "triple" (3X10) ... tubeless tires and eventually I upgraded the stock rims to Bontrager RXL rims ... currently it weighs 16lbs 12oz ... one sweet ride!!! Smooth, light, and quick !!! Unfortunately the current price has more then doubled ... and I can not get a "triple" anymore either ... only a "compact double" ... which my legs ... HATE!!!! I love to sit on my saddle ... shift down into my granny gear ... and spin up the hills ... I like rides of 30m -- 65m w/ a "century" thrown in every now and then ... Don't go cheap, do your research and buy what you want ... for the next +10 years ...
Not all of us are suited to riding pure road bikes so the geometry of the endurance bike is paramount to us. In that context the fact that a bike brand calls a certain bike endurance is irrelevant as what qualifies a bike as endurance for us is its geometry f.ex stack to reach ratio 1.5+ When you define the category that way a lot of good bikes that others might advocate for do not qualify. Personally I found the Canyon Endurace a great endurance bike but Canyon's failure to update the design with full cable integration especially meant I moved on from it to an Argon 18 Krypton Pro which I had at the top of my endurance bike list and I have not been disappointed ;-)
This video has been reporting for misleading the public about endurance racing bikes. This whole industry will be forced by the Internet to stop deliberately lying to the public year after year. Deliberately confusing the public isn't an option for bike manufacturers.
In December I was looking for an endurace bike to replace my GT Grade gravel bike. Was leaning towards Gant Defy but the wait was well into 2022. I found out that store an hour away had an Orbea Orca OMR m30 which is more of a race endurace bike mainly due to handle bar raiser. There was something desirable about orbea for me as I originally wanted one when I got my GT, so I went for it. It's certainly sexier bike than Defy. I don't regret it (but it would have been nice to ride and compare the two) and I actually just replaced the handlebar for the flat one and the bike fits me better now!
I would recommend anyone looking for an endurance bike consider the Allied Alfa or the Open MIN.D, at least if you want a bike that no one in your group ride is likely to have. Both have classic geometry, round tubes, are reasonably light and the MIN.D in particular offers great compliance. Neither have any of the tech (or gimmickry, depending on your viewpoint) of the Synapse, Domane or Roubaix. I believe David Arthur reviewed the MIN.D as one of his favorite road bikes a couple of years back. (I would also endorse comments that the Canyon Endurace is probably the Best Buy out in this category. I have ridden my friend’s and it is excellent).
I have looked at the geometry of the Canyon Endurace, and its fork and chainstays, and it looks like a very stiff but also light bike, which the name Endu-race suggest, looks like a race bike with a bit of give, especially from the seatpost, setube combination rather than your usual endurance bike, not sure If I would want it for long distance 100-150km up to 3 days trips. OPEN on the other hand I heard only good things about it, especially their gravel models, I heard dude who designed thei frames was the guy from Cervelo before he left the company. For myself I am looking at Cervelo Caledonia, the one without 5, on Ultegra groupset in Oasis colorway, the dealer near me have one for sell, but also have one on Rival AXS groupset for -10%, but I lean more for Ultegra, also still cheaper than Rival AXS with -10% discount
Plenty of choice; I've had 2 Synapse, and 3 Domane, and the latest versions can almost fit 40mm tyres, but I think the new Endurace is probably the best bang for buck - and there is an All Road version.
You're not allowed to mislead the public and cause chaos so you can profit. This industry is going to get it's arse kicked by the public and the Internet.
I’m riding a Ridley Fenix SLIC 2021 with Sram Rival AXS and love it 👍🚴🏻 I also use a Specialized Roubaix Pro 2012 model as my winter bike with Sram mechanical gears and with arthritis in my right wrist…I know which I prefer 😊
I've got a 2022 BMC Roadmachine X. Overpriced, but a great bike for me. Comfort geometry borders on very quick handling, a nice combo. Also, I admit, the color was a factor, a gorgeous teal, unlike so many others. I also asked my bike shop to swap out (this is a 12 spd 1X bike to begin with) the 44 cr for a 46, and swap the 10-44 cassette for a 10-52, with GX derailleur, at no additional charge, as I'm in the NC mountains (usa). So far love the bike.
@@garycaterella3070 Hey Gary, sounds like a gorgeous bike. You've got the premium carbon and the stealth stem/cable routing. Also that bikes stock Force gearing is what I would have, if going for a 2x system. I'm near Boone, and my old knees need all the help with gearing, especially on the Blue Ridge Parkway. My son was in Charlotte until recently, a great city. Happy trails, keep on biking!
I was in the market for a new bike last year, considered the Canyon Endurace, Giant Defy, and Scott Addict. All were very similarly spec with 105 groupset and about $100 usd difference in price. Ended up with the Scott because it was in stock, the other two had several months waiting period.
I tested and ordered an Enigma Etape after your glowing reviews of it @David. Hoping it will serve as a fantastic endurance bike as well as a good "all seasons" bike
I have the older version of Cannondale Synapse Disc Brake Ultegra (2018). It is very comfortable, responsive and so much fun for hilly roads. I have used for many long rides including Audax event and I really had a great time with it. I am sure the latest version would be even better.
Wrong and now you're reported to the authority for misleading the public about these full speed racing bikes designed to reduce the options during the race. They have nothing to do with comfort riding. You're not allowed to mislead the public.
A comfortable and also a good handling bike is just more fun. Comfort usually means bigger tire (28) so it's safer too. I have 10+ bikes and if I have to keep 3 it'd all be my endurance bikes.
That's it, i made up my mind. I'm going to save up for a Fairlight Strael 3.0 frameset, period. I've been eyeballing that bike since your review of it last year, and damn, it just looks sooooo good! 😍😍
I've just bought a BMC RoadMachine01 Five - despite some quality issues (unexpected and unacceptable from a bike at this price range) the bike is awesome. very comfortable (even more if compared with my 'main' Bike, a BMC TimeMachine01 Three).
I’m so old and beat up that I can’t even ride an endurance bike any longer. I’m converting everything to elevated flat bars this year. I always thought it would be the lower back that betrayed me, but alas it’s my neck.
LiteSpeed T5. And best of all, you can actually buy one. 😆 10% off sale recently made this titanium bike in its Shimano 105 configuration an enticing purchase, especially if you prefer rim brakes.
@@19gt92 Love it! I do own the T5 in an Ultegra configuration as I wanted Di2. Now that Shimano has come out with a 12-speed, 105 electronic groupset, I may have gone with that option if I was building a T5 today.
Own a 2021 Giant Defy Advanced Pro 3. Lucky to get one during lockdown. Awesome feel and so comfortable. Midnight blue and red - I love the paint job and as yet 6 months in haven’t seen another on the road. Lovely carbon wheels too but 105 groupset (surprised not Ultegra considering the price) but the bike is still too good for my level of riding!!
@@notpablo8369 Well, maybe not everyone is rich like you. Most of us, who love to ride are trying save a little money. Much rather spend $300 for a good WalMart bike instead of $5,000 on a carbon framed bike. I guess, you're right. I am a poor boy.
Good overview but after comparing parts and design and budget, i bought a Canyon endurance CFL and after 5000km, still very happy. There is always a price to pay for different parts to get the optimal comfort and speed.
I am riding a Secan, so I am happy to see you included a Fairlight. In addtition, I am thinking of an Enigma bike, like the Etape, didn't you review the Endeavour previously? All the best David!
I would like to see a summary table, showing for each bike: frame and fork material; groupset; mudguard eyelets (y/n); total weight; accessories; price. As it is, not enough information.
Soma Fog Cutter is a sweet steel endurance road bike that can fit 700x38mm tire or 650x47mm tires for more comfort. Something like the road plus WTB Horizon on that bike would crush bad roads and even smooth rail trails that US has.
Surprised that you did not mention the Merida Scultura Endurance. Merida is doing very well with Bahrain Victorious during the Spring cycling race season. The Scultura Endurance is an exceptional bike with a very wide range of models and prices. You win some and you lose some.
I'm looking at the geometry for my size. What a terrible bike. It's got a BB drop of 66 mm for crying out loud, a seat tube angle of 73.5, and a head angle of 73 degrees. It's probably terrible.
I am riding a Bianchi Infinito's CV it's been a great bike past 4 years my first ride was tour of Big Bear Gran Fondo 110 MI 10000 FT elevation climb the bike perform great and I was happy with my time 7 hours 20 minutes
Silly boy. Endurance racing bikes have nothing to do with mountain climbs. Nothing to do with 7 hour rides. Those bikes haven't been invented yet. You'll have to ask manufacturers to design and build your rediculas idea.
Having ridden the synapse and defy in Mallorca, I then tried a Ridley Fenix, that's the only bike I've ridden and wanted to by when I got home. Bought a Fenix SL , beautiful. I've now also got the Ridley Fenix SLiC, simply the best in my opinion
@@tcb746 main difference is the disc brakes, I still find the SL more comfortable but that's probably because I had an injury just before getting the SLiC
I ve risen a few of these and some lovely bikes, but for comfort and speed I would go Bianchi infinito cv all day over most. The countervale gets rid of all the road buzz, yet the bottom bracket is incredibly stiff to get the power through ….
How did you not include the BMC Roadmachine??? It’s one of the first Endurance bikes ever and is still market leading with tyre width (32mm) and don’t forget it started the internal cable look that has since been copied by the entire market!
I’ve been looking for a carbon bike to get in the next year or two. I definitely want it on the racier end of endurance, or the endurance end of racing. I want to go fast but I’m also not entering any crits anytime soon. I’ve been eyeing the empire from the small US brand Fezzari. You should give them a look! The spec looks incredible for the money.
So you're admitting the bike industry IS deliberately trying to mislead the public and cause chaos so they can profit from all the confusion. Endurance racing IS endurance racing. Endurance racing isn't comfort daydreaming.
I test drove the Trek Domane, Gaint Defy and few other road bikes and found Orbea Orca "OMR" more suited for endurance riding. Would appreciate if this road bike is covered in subsequent endurance road bike videos. Everything in the "OMR" the tube shapes, handle bar, bike geometry are more suited for endurance riding.
I ride a Trek Domane AL4. The aluminum version. Yes, the carbon frame is gorgeous but honestly it won't make me a better rider. Not a day goes by that when I ride the Domane that I don't think to myself how much I love that bike. I run the original wheel set and 32mm tires daily on pavement and ride a second wheel set with Specialized 38mm rubber for gravel. Could not be happier.
These are ROAD race bikes designed for reducing energy expenditure. It's got nothing to do with gravel riding. If you try to mislead the public again, you'll be reported.
If you were thinking of spending 4k to get one of these beauties with base spec, think again. Several small shop carbon builders now offer custom build for under 3k, with some offering a lifetime carbon repair incl. Tire clearance galore! Then handpick you're own components, or buy last year's group. Better than paying 4k for a Tiagra equipped '22 Roubaix. BTW, even if you have total heart-meets-head attachment to a carbon model with wider tire clearance, read the warranty fine print carefully. Almost all manufacturers have had to pump the breaks on Gravel vs. Road/Adventure. Warranty docs in 2022 now all distinguish " only to be ridden on smooth pavé. AND if you have a carbon post, your packs over rear wheel must not exceed 10 kg)
Giant Advance Defy is definitely my choice, but I can’t believe just how much the price has gone up. I bought my 2017 on sale for $1400, now the 2021 msrp are $2,800. I’d still choose it over those other ones. The gimmicks are there to justify the jacked up the prices, front stem shock absorbers? I hardly think a small compartment on the frame is worth $3k for the base carbon model. You are just paying extra for the name.
@@dr_tate Much faster. Frame and wheels are more aero. 28's v 23 as well. It's also very different geometry. Six13 was the old stretched out racing style, Roubaix is more upright. I love it...rejuvenated my cycling.
Agree with you, bought the Ar 1 last december for gravel. Revolt carbon wasnt available, so i got for same Budget (2 400 Euro) the ar plus cxr2 wheelset, thats it 🤟
Trek domane is such a great bike but grossly overpriced. Over 4000€ for a mechanical ultegra? I can get a SRAM + Carbon wheels cube endurance bike for that Money.
Did you say they're deliberately trying to mislead the public? Did you say there's great confusion and chaos out there with regards to endurance bikes?
Trek is clearly labelled as a bike designed for people who Don't Care about the bike. You care MORE about the Trek than everything else.@Liberals now know Biden was the worse choice
Branding tells you something about the owner. Trek builds a thing for you to experience the Trek. Its all about the journey. The just gets you the journey. The bike just gets you the journey. They believe the Trek is most important. The bike isn't important. Their products will give you a great Trek / journey. @Liberals now know Biden was the worse choice
If I can forklift my posture in this endurance bike and drop it on a aerobike, would I attain the same comfort that these super-comfortable endurance bikes offer?
Why nothing on the new Cube Agree? I mean at 4.2k € you get SRAM Force etap, carbon full integrated handlebars and carbon wheels. Is CUBE such a bad producer that it doesn't worth even a mention?
@@davidarthur I really hope so. I'm dying to see an honest review, with goods and bads. Anyway I really enjoy your work - and feel you more trustworthy than most bike review channels. Keep it up!
I have cube attain, very very happy with it, rode 4k km till now, comfortable, fast, cheap bike with shimano 105, every recomendation for average amateur cyclist
I ordered a Fairlight Strael after lots of research and your video review of it. I came really close to buying a Canyon Endurace, but the geometry just seemed a little too aggressive to me and I run 35mm road tires. The pressfit BB also factored into the decision.The new 2022 version (announced after my Strael order was placed) seems more to my liking being less aggressive and accepting wider tires.
Hello Austin! I am looking at Strael 2.0 . You said the 3.0 is less aggresive than the 2.0 but when i looked up, both geo are the same. Am i missing something here? And do you own the 2.0 or the 1.0? If you are using the 2.0, can it run 32C tires comfortably? Anything i should look out for before i place the order ?
@@ashwinoashwin Those comments on the less aggressive geo and wider tires were referring to the Canyon Endurace--sorry for any confusion. I don't own a Strael yet--waiting for delivery later this year! There is an active Fairlight Riders group on Facebook which will be able to answer your questions. Good luck!
Seemed too aggressive. They're full speed racing bikes designed for reducing energy expenditure during the race. The public is being deliberately mislead by david and so we're reporting the video to the authority for misleading the public.
The old brands need to get their prices straight. Sure, prices for a hobby are based on value + emotion, but I really doubt a trek or s-works is three times as good as a normal good bike.
Hi David, Very much enjoy the content. I ride a Bianchi Infinito CV 2020 (Ultegra). I would be really interested in your opinion. Hardly any reviews on it on UA-cam. This model around since 2019 I think so probably an upgrade coming.
I bought the RoadMachine 2 a few weeks ago and regardless of which stem I fit it with, I keep experiencing inconsistent back issues. I’m 6 feet 3 with stupidly long legs so opted for the 58cm; I would have preferred less seat post out with the 60cm frame but the reach would have been too long. I think the recommended price is astronomical but after the guy gave me like a £1500 discount without prompt (I’m assuming he needed the businesses following the downturn), I couldn’t say no! Fell in love with Sram force immediately but feel that the overly large downtube makes it a few hundred grams heavier than necessary. It is however, supremely comfortable, actually, the comfort is disgustingly good. Personally, I replaced the hopeless flat Fizik seat for a fully carbon Velo.
Appreciate that I'm possibly an odd one out. I would really appreciate an endurance style frame (with wide clearances and mudguard mounts) but with a longer/lower position, for winter riding. I find the fit of racing bikes more comfortable, but having mudguards and wide tyres are essential for winter.
@@two_oldbucks4617 like I said, have had a bike with a similar geo. It's not bad, but quite what I was after. But without spending daft money on a custom frame, it's a great choixe
I know its not endurance(i.e the aethos). But my next bike will be either the specialized aethos expert or the Canyon Endurace CF SL. Thanks for the video. What are your thoughts on the Condor range though?
I bought my son a Synapse and I have a Bianchi Oltre XR4. If you put a gun to my head and told me I had to ride 200km on one of them, I'd have to pick his Synapse and get there later. It's almost akin to switching a hardtail mountain bike for a full-sus when it comes to comfort.
For most riders out there that couldn't justify spending $1000 more to save half a kilo of mass, most of the models listed in the video above also have a more affordable aluminum version, usually running on the "groupset of the people", 105 R7000. Unless you are racing up a hill, the difference between aluminum and carbon should be negligible.
I'm still in the 1974's , I bought a 74 Voyageur (Gray) from the original owner.
I get the shakes when I see the new bike prices.
I ride a Trek Domane SL5 - I have upgraded the handlebars with XXX carbon and ultegra pedals. No hanging bags - very streamline.
Incrediblly comfortable with the ISO, it’s not a gimmick - it works. I have slip disks after my rugby years.
It’s insane I can go on for 5/6 hours on the saddle and I feel ok!
Sorry for the question but what is an ISO?
@@rawmen8442 check trek domane sl5 on their official website.
Iso speed is a suspension feature. There’s a video which will explain how it works. It’s fantastic.
if i only have a 5000$ budget but am looking for a similar set up/style endurance road racer which bike should i get? what are my options?
@@thepatternforms859 I brought the domane al5, Half the price to skip carbon fiber frame.
2021 Trek Domane SL5. I've fallen in love with cycling again on this bike. Mostly doing 30 - 60 mile rides on paved roads. Upgrades include 4iiii Dual Power Meter, DT Swiss ER1600 Wheels, Ultegra PD-8000 pedals, Continental Grand Prix 5000 32C tires, and my favorite upgrade is the K-EDGE Pro chain catcher. It's not the fastest or stiffest bike on the market but it cruises for miles in comfort.
What was the total cost?
@@crazycomments8038 a lung
If you want to be competitive, then spend the thousands of dollars you'll need to race. Or, if you just want to stay in shape, a heavier bike is going to get you in shape faster than any carbon fiber bike will. It all depends on what you want to get from riding.
Sounds very expensive.
I think you should have noted the Merida Scultura Endurance. It’s a very good bike with amazing value for money, great tyre clearance and mudguard mounts.
Canyon has endurance off to a fine art with their Endurace. Very slick machine.
I own a 21 Specialized Roubaix comp and absolute love the geometry of it along with the smoothness of Ultegra and Futureshock 1.5 and perfectly represents the title of this video "speed is nothing without comfort". My roubaix is also crazy fast!
Why is speed so important?🤔
@@thelakeman5207 I'm a speed junkie, that's just why!💨
@@thelakeman5207
What is life?
Old Trek Domane, with Conti 28's, ....love this bike, runs like a new bike and looks like one too.
I ride a Trek Domane SL9 with Dura Ace and i must say its the best bike. Very comfortable, very fast and also very light. I love that bike.
Very light in compare to what? I really like it, but it's one of the heaviest Endurance Roadbikes!
I went out to buy a Giant Defy in 2017 (it had won a few Bike of the Year awards).. I had a test ride and it was great .. THEN.. the bike shop said I should try the Trek Domane SL5 while I was there.
It took all of about 100 metres for me to buy the Trek.
It's next level comfort.
Because I was doing lots of long distance Audax riding at the time comfort is everything.
The Domane is still the fastest bike I ever owned but, over longer distances, it really comes into its own. because it's fast for longer, without becoming uncomfortable.
No, it's not a Road-Racer like the Madone, but I can't make use of the Madone's "Head down, Arse Up" geometry any more.
Vote for the Defy. I have the 21 Advanced Defy 1. Can double as a gravel bike as well which is why I got it. Nice features for the price.
I’m a big fan of top tube bag attachment points, especially on this type of a bike. They’ll often be ridden for longer periods of time, without the worry of tweaking every last bit of speed out of the situation. A good top tube bag provides easiest access to things like snacks, jackets, and phones (over a saddle or handlebar bag) and attachment points make it look that much more sleek, with fewer points rubbing on the frame. I’d be a big fan of all endurance category bikes adding these sorts of mounts - especially with them being easy to simply ignore if you don’t want to use them.
Wrong and this misleading video has been reporting to the authority.
You're delusional and You'll be reported too for misleading the public about these race bikes designed for racing at full speed.
One of the best and most popular endurance bikes is Bianchi Infinito. I had a chance to ride this model and fell in love with it. Don't vorget it for your next review. I personally own Colnago Cx Zero from 2014, which is also very comfrtoable, but still with caliper brakes and perhaps with less atractive painting.
Riding a BMC Roadmachine 01 Four SRAM AXS. Love it!
I’ve been waiting for this video, thank you so much David , 🍻
Thanks for the overview.
I know they're not designed as Gravel bikes, but given tyre width (and lower pressure) is probably the cheapest and easiest way to get comfort on a road bike, it would've been good to know what the max. tyre width is for each of these various bikes, rather than just that they have increased clearance for "wider" tyres.
Treks website says the Domane can fit 700x38 but I’ve heard people squeeze 40s onto them.
Amazing that you made the whole video without once uttering the word gravel. In 2019 when I was shopping, I initially wanted the Giant Defy, but the Revolt was simply a more versatile, affordable and, let’s face it, fun option. It appears now that the Defy has taken on some Revolt features. I expect that bike manufacturers would prefer that these segments not contract lest they lose market share, hence the recent push to reclaim a new sweet spot.
Endurance racing bikes are full speed racing bikes.
Bro I am planning to purchase Gaint defy advance 2 . Please suggest me with good one bro
Really surprised the Ribble Endurance didn’t make it into the video. Full carbon, customization options, mudguard mounts, huge tire clearance, and incredible value for money.
Have you got one or tried one, I am thinking of going to look at the ribble endurance and wonder what they are like.
@@davidwhite3702 it’s racy despite the endurance name. I’ve tested one and thought it was great. There are tons of reviews in the cycling magazine and websites, all rating it extremely highly. I think it was Bike of the Year in 2020 or 2021 at a couple of the top mags/sites
Thanks for the reply, I will look into it further. My next bike needs to be a bit more relaxed to suit my ageing body 🤣
@@davidwhite3702 don’t ignore the Ribble CGR either…
... for my road bike, I purchased a new 2013' Domane 5.2 ... w/ a "triple" (3X10) ... tubeless tires and eventually I upgraded the stock rims to Bontrager RXL rims ... currently it weighs 16lbs 12oz ... one sweet ride!!! Smooth, light, and quick !!! Unfortunately the current price has more then doubled ... and I can not get a "triple" anymore either ... only a "compact double" ... which my legs ... HATE!!!! I love to sit on my saddle ... shift down into my granny gear ... and spin up the hills ... I like rides of 30m -- 65m w/ a "century" thrown in every now and then ... Don't go cheap, do your research and buy what you want ... for the next +10 years ...
I'd happily have any of the last three. Nothing wrong with the Carbon ones, but I like a left field metal choice.
Full speed racing bikes.
Not all of us are suited to riding pure road bikes so the geometry of the endurance bike is paramount to us. In that context the fact that a bike brand calls a certain bike endurance is irrelevant as what qualifies a bike as endurance for us is its geometry f.ex stack to reach ratio 1.5+ When you define the category that way a lot of good bikes that others might advocate for do not qualify. Personally I found the Canyon Endurace a great endurance bike but Canyon's failure to update the design with full cable integration especially meant I moved on from it to an Argon 18 Krypton Pro which I had at the top of my endurance bike list and I have not been disappointed ;-)
This video has been reporting for misleading the public about endurance racing bikes.
This whole industry will be forced by the Internet to stop deliberately lying to the public year after year.
Deliberately confusing the public isn't an option for bike manufacturers.
In December I was looking for an endurace bike to replace my GT Grade gravel bike. Was leaning towards Gant Defy but the wait was well into 2022. I found out that store an hour away had an Orbea Orca OMR m30 which is more of a race endurace bike mainly due to handle bar raiser. There was something desirable about orbea for me as I originally wanted one when I got my GT, so I went for it. It's certainly sexier bike than Defy. I don't regret it (but it would have been nice to ride and compare the two) and I actually just replaced the handlebar for the flat one and the bike fits me better now!
I rushed out back in 2016 and bought the Grade Ultegra.
Still have it with it’s original tyres.
Well done and great overview of many bikes I have seen before
I would recommend anyone looking for an endurance bike consider the Allied Alfa or the Open MIN.D, at least if you want a bike that no one in your group ride is likely to have. Both have classic geometry, round tubes, are reasonably light and the MIN.D in particular offers great compliance. Neither have any of the tech (or gimmickry, depending on your viewpoint) of the Synapse, Domane or Roubaix. I believe David Arthur reviewed the MIN.D as one of his favorite road bikes a couple of years back. (I would also endorse comments that the Canyon Endurace is probably the Best Buy out in this category. I have ridden my friend’s and it is excellent).
I have looked at the geometry of the Canyon Endurace, and its fork and chainstays, and it looks like a very stiff but also light bike, which the name Endu-race suggest, looks like a race bike with a bit of give, especially from the seatpost, setube combination rather than your usual endurance bike, not sure If I would want it for long distance 100-150km up to 3 days trips. OPEN on the other hand I heard only good things about it, especially their gravel models, I heard dude who designed thei frames was the guy from Cervelo before he left the company. For myself I am looking at Cervelo Caledonia, the one without 5, on Ultegra groupset in Oasis colorway, the dealer near me have one for sell, but also have one on Rival AXS groupset for -10%, but I lean more for Ultegra, also still cheaper than Rival AXS with -10% discount
Plenty of choice; I've had 2 Synapse, and 3 Domane, and the latest versions can almost fit 40mm tyres, but I think the new Endurace is probably the best bang for buck - and there is an All Road version.
You're not allowed to mislead the public and cause chaos so you can profit.
This industry is going to get it's arse kicked by the public and the Internet.
I’m riding a Ridley Fenix SLIC 2021 with Sram Rival AXS and love it 👍🚴🏻 I also use a Specialized Roubaix Pro 2012 model as my winter bike with Sram mechanical gears and with arthritis in my right wrist…I know which I prefer 😊
I've got a 2022 BMC Roadmachine X. Overpriced, but a great bike for me. Comfort geometry borders on very quick handling, a nice combo. Also, I admit, the color was a factor, a gorgeous teal, unlike so many others.
I also asked my bike shop to swap out (this is a 12 spd 1X bike to begin with) the 44 cr for a 46, and swap the 10-44 cassette for a 10-52, with GX derailleur, at no additional charge, as I'm in the NC mountains (usa). So far love the bike.
Hey Tom - in Charlotte riding a BMC Roadmachine 01 Four SRAM AXS. Love it!
@@garycaterella3070
Hey Gary, sounds like a gorgeous bike. You've got the premium carbon and the stealth stem/cable routing. Also that bikes stock Force gearing is what I would have, if going for a 2x system. I'm near Boone, and my old knees need all the help with gearing, especially on the Blue Ridge Parkway. My son was in Charlotte until recently, a great city. Happy trails, keep on biking!
I was in the market for a new bike last year, considered the Canyon Endurace, Giant Defy, and Scott Addict. All were very similarly spec with 105 groupset and about $100 usd difference in price. Ended up with the Scott because it was in stock, the other two had several months waiting period.
Scott is awesome, looks the best.
Nice video. Full of content and nice little graphics
Trek Domane also can be your gravel bike with a 40mm wheelset. 2 bikes in 1 make this the best endurance bike
The frame is just ugly
Rather have 2 bikes one for gravel and backpacking and one for only street but you need money for it.
I tested and ordered an Enigma Etape after your glowing reviews of it @David. Hoping it will serve as a fantastic endurance bike as well as a good "all seasons" bike
I have the older version of Cannondale Synapse Disc Brake Ultegra (2018). It is very comfortable, responsive and so much fun for hilly roads. I have used for many long rides including Audax event and I really had a great time with it. I am sure the latest version would be even better.
Wrong and now you're reported to the authority for misleading the public about these full speed racing bikes designed to reduce the options during the race.
They have nothing to do with comfort riding.
You're not allowed to mislead the public.
A comfortable and also a good handling bike is just more fun. Comfort usually means bigger tire (28) so it's safer too. I have 10+ bikes and if I have to keep 3 it'd all be my endurance bikes.
That's it, i made up my mind. I'm going to save up for a Fairlight Strael 3.0 frameset, period. I've been eyeballing that bike since your review of it last year, and damn, it just looks sooooo good! 😍😍
Have you seen the new Plumb colourway on the Strael? It's bloomin stunning.
Plumb looks incredible so much want
I've just bought a BMC RoadMachine01 Five - despite some quality issues (unexpected and unacceptable from a bike at this price range) the bike is awesome. very comfortable (even more if compared with my 'main' Bike, a BMC TimeMachine01 Three).
I’m so old and beat up that I can’t even ride an endurance bike any longer. I’m converting everything to elevated flat bars this year. I always thought it would be the lower back that betrayed me, but alas it’s my neck.
LiteSpeed T5. And best of all, you can actually buy one. 😆 10% off sale recently made this titanium bike in its Shimano 105 configuration an enticing purchase, especially if you prefer rim brakes.
So u really like it, I was thinking of building a T5
@@19gt92 Love it! I do own the T5 in an Ultegra configuration as I wanted Di2. Now that Shimano has come out with a 12-speed, 105 electronic groupset, I may have gone with that option if I was building a T5 today.
What do you think about the BMC Roadmachine?
I chose the 2022 giant defy advance 1..interesting this has the Ultegra groupset with a GRX 810 rear derailer..
Trek Domane SLK7 $8350 says everything I need to know. I can buy a Cannondale Topstone Carbon 6 for $2600 off the floor today at my local shop.
I ride a 15 year old Trek 1.9 - love it. Bought new in 2007. Aluminium frame, ultegra groupset. Love it ❤️
Own a 2021 Giant Defy Advanced Pro 3. Lucky to get one during lockdown. Awesome feel and so comfortable. Midnight blue and red - I love the paint job and as yet 6 months in haven’t seen another on the road. Lovely carbon wheels too but 105 groupset (surprised not Ultegra considering the price) but the bike is still too good for my level of riding!!
I have one of those as well and love the comfort, but i have been having issues with clicking noises all over the places and it is driving me nuts :(
Love my canyon endurace 😍
Guess I'll be keeping my Definition a little longer then - no hardship!
I can give the Mason Definition 2 a big thumbs up!
Great list. Very informative. Kudos!
If you like a lighter bike, don't go carbon, diet and lose 20 lbs. and go aluminum. Much cheaper.
POOR BOY
@@notpablo8369 Well, maybe not everyone is rich like you. Most of us, who love to ride are trying save a little money. Much rather spend $300 for a good WalMart bike instead of $5,000 on a carbon framed bike. I guess, you're right. I am a poor boy.
@@notpablo8369 calling the kettle black.
But I am in good shape (63kg 171cm), so I doubt I should lose any weight. But besides that, aluminium bikes has the advantage of longevity.
@@thelakeman5207 maybe everyone’s not fat like you?
Good overview but after comparing parts and design and budget, i bought a Canyon endurance CFL and after 5000km, still very happy. There is always a price to pay for different parts to get the optimal comfort and speed.
I am riding a Secan, so I am happy to see you included a Fairlight. In addtition, I am thinking of an Enigma bike, like the Etape, didn't you review the Endeavour previously? All the best David!
Hello! I am looking at the strael :) How do you rate fairlight frames?
Perfect perfect perfect and easy to set up!👍🏾
you've missed scott addict which offers really good value for money, looks epic and its really comfortable too..
I would like to see a summary table, showing for each bike: frame and fork material; groupset; mudguard eyelets (y/n); total weight; accessories; price. As it is, not enough information.
Soma Fog Cutter is a sweet steel endurance road bike that can fit 700x38mm tire or 650x47mm tires for more comfort. Something like the road plus WTB Horizon on that bike would crush bad roads and even smooth rail trails that US has.
Surprised that you did not mention the Merida Scultura Endurance. Merida is doing very well with Bahrain Victorious during the Spring cycling race season. The Scultura Endurance is an exceptional bike with a very wide range of models and prices. You win some and you lose some.
I'm looking at the geometry for my size. What a terrible bike. It's got a BB drop of 66 mm for crying out loud, a seat tube angle of 73.5, and a head angle of 73 degrees. It's probably terrible.
I am riding a Bianchi Infinito's CV it's been a great bike past 4 years my first ride was tour of Big Bear Gran Fondo 110 MI 10000 FT elevation climb the bike perform great and I was happy with my time 7 hours 20 minutes
Silly boy.
Endurance racing bikes have nothing to do with mountain climbs.
Nothing to do with 7 hour rides.
Those bikes haven't been invented yet.
You'll have to ask manufacturers to design and build your rediculas idea.
Having ridden the synapse and defy in Mallorca, I then tried a Ridley Fenix, that's the only bike I've ridden and wanted to by when I got home. Bought a Fenix SL , beautiful. I've now also got the Ridley Fenix SLiC, simply the best in my opinion
I've got the Fenix SL, how different is the SLiC?
@@tcb746 main difference is the disc brakes, I still find the SL more comfortable but that's probably because I had an injury just before getting the SLiC
@@paulsmith4024 I'm on the SL disc, so harder to justify for me!
@@tcb746 only difference would really be if you got the single piece head set and bars
I ve risen a few of these and some lovely bikes, but for comfort and speed I would go Bianchi infinito cv all day over most. The countervale gets rid of all the road buzz, yet the bottom bracket is incredibly stiff to get the power through ….
Incredibly Stiff.
Well you've exposed yourself.
It sounds like an endurance racing bike to me.
It's tuned for full speed racing.
I have a 2020 model. It is on the racy side but with the countervale and 28 mm tires at 80psi it is comfortable.
How did you not include the BMC Roadmachine??? It’s one of the first Endurance bikes ever and is still market leading with tyre width (32mm) and don’t forget it started the internal cable look that has since been copied by the entire market!
It isn’t my favourite endurance bike so that’s why
I’ve been looking for a carbon bike to get in the next year or two. I definitely want it on the racier end of endurance, or the endurance end of racing. I want to go fast but I’m also not entering any crits anytime soon. I’ve been eyeing the empire from the small US brand Fezzari. You should give them a look! The spec looks incredible for the money.
So you're admitting the bike industry IS deliberately trying to mislead the public and cause chaos so they can profit from all the confusion.
Endurance racing IS endurance racing.
Endurance racing isn't comfort daydreaming.
I test drove the Trek Domane, Gaint Defy and few other road bikes and found Orbea Orca "OMR" more suited for endurance riding. Would appreciate if this road bike is covered in subsequent endurance road bike videos. Everything in the "OMR" the tube shapes, handle bar, bike geometry are more suited for endurance riding.
I ride a Trek Domane AL4. The aluminum version. Yes, the carbon frame is gorgeous but honestly it won't make me a better rider. Not a day goes by that when I ride the Domane that I don't think to myself how much I love that bike. I run the original wheel set and 32mm tires daily on pavement and ride a second wheel set with Specialized 38mm rubber for gravel. Could not be happier.
These are ROAD race bikes designed for reducing energy expenditure.
It's got nothing to do with gravel riding.
If you try to mislead the public again, you'll be reported.
Excellent review
If you were thinking of spending 4k to get one of these beauties with base spec, think again. Several small shop carbon builders now offer custom build for under 3k, with some offering a lifetime carbon repair incl. Tire clearance galore! Then handpick you're own components, or buy last year's group. Better than paying 4k for a Tiagra equipped '22 Roubaix. BTW, even if you have total heart-meets-head attachment to a carbon model with wider tire clearance, read the warranty fine print carefully. Almost all manufacturers have had to pump the breaks on Gravel vs. Road/Adventure. Warranty docs in 2022 now all distinguish " only to be ridden on smooth pavé. AND if you have a carbon post, your packs over rear wheel must not exceed 10 kg)
Great vid man!
Giant Advance Defy is definitely my choice, but I can’t believe just how much the price has gone up. I bought my 2017 on sale for $1400, now the 2021 msrp are $2,800. I’d still choose it over those other ones. The gimmicks are there to justify the jacked up the prices, front stem shock absorbers? I hardly think a small compartment on the frame is worth $3k for the base carbon model. You are just paying extra for the name.
Agree
The bikes are becoming unnecessarily complicated.
I’ve got the Specialised Roubiax. Di2 and head shock. Unbelievable bike. I came off an old Cannondale six13 and couldn’t believe the difference!
Is your new Roubaix faster too?
@@dr_tate Much faster. Frame and wheels are more aero. 28's v 23 as well. It's also very different geometry. Six13 was the old stretched out racing style, Roubaix is more upright. I love it...rejuvenated my cycling.
Excellent video
Giant content AR is also a good option. The AR 4 is more than good enough for the budget end.
Agree with you, bought the Ar 1 last december for gravel. Revolt carbon wasnt available, so i got for same Budget (2 400 Euro) the ar plus cxr2 wheelset, thats it 🤟
I also have a giant contend ar4, it’s great!
Fezzari Empire is a worthy top 5
Yeah comfort is the vest thats why I change my gravel bike to monster gravel ✅💎🚲
Great review but I wish you give the weight of the bikes as this is a prime consideration
76 kg
Awesome video
I’m hoping to get the SCULTURA ENDURANCE 9000 looks a awesome bike
Trek domane is such a great bike but grossly overpriced. Over 4000€ for a mechanical ultegra? I can get a SRAM + Carbon wheels cube endurance bike for that Money.
Did you say they're deliberately trying to mislead the public?
Did you say there's great confusion and chaos out there with regards to endurance bikes?
Trek is clearly labelled as a bike designed for people who Don't Care about the bike.
You care MORE about the Trek than everything else.@Liberals now know Biden was the worse choice
Branding tells you something about the owner.
Trek builds a thing for you to experience the Trek.
Its all about the journey.
The just gets you the journey.
The bike just gets you the journey.
They believe the Trek is most important.
The bike isn't important.
Their products will give you a great Trek / journey.
@Liberals now know Biden was the worse choice
well then Yarlon why don't u buy it then .stop bitching about the price of the trek bike it is what it is .you want the best you pay that simlpe
Bring Back The Spartan
Best is the one you ride every day,,,, life is short enjoy the ride in any bike….
You left out my BMC roadmachine
The Merida Scultura Endurance would be a good choice also for long day in the saddle
Wrong.
When Are You going to request the saddle bike?
These bikes have nothing to do with long days in the saddle.
A Marmite feature. Great line.
If I can forklift my posture in this endurance bike and drop it on a aerobike, would I attain the same comfort that these super-comfortable endurance bikes offer?
Why nothing on the new Cube Agree? I mean at 4.2k € you get SRAM Force etap, carbon full integrated handlebars and carbon wheels. Is CUBE such a bad producer that it doesn't worth even a mention?
I’m hoping to get one in for review but brexit has been a spanner in the works
@@davidarthur I really hope so. I'm dying to see an honest review, with goods and bads. Anyway I really enjoy your work - and feel you more trustworthy than most bike review channels. Keep it up!
I have cube attain, very very happy with it, rode 4k km till now, comfortable, fast, cheap bike with shimano 105, every recomendation for average amateur cyclist
bc cube is a suck ass bike .no body cared.😢 sorry mate truth be told
105 is so yesterday
Great Review! Also dig you're jacket! What kind is it?
I ordered a Fairlight Strael after lots of research and your video review of it. I came really close to buying a Canyon Endurace, but the geometry just seemed a little too aggressive to me and I run 35mm road tires. The pressfit BB also factored into the decision.The new 2022 version (announced after my Strael order was placed) seems more to my liking being less aggressive and accepting wider tires.
Hello Austin! I am looking at Strael 2.0 . You said the 3.0 is less aggresive than the 2.0 but when i looked up, both geo are the same. Am i missing something here? And do you own the 2.0 or the 1.0? If you are using the 2.0, can it run 32C tires comfortably? Anything i should look out for before i place the order ?
@@ashwinoashwin Those comments on the less aggressive geo and wider tires were referring to the Canyon Endurace--sorry for any confusion. I don't own a Strael yet--waiting for delivery later this year! There is an active Fairlight Riders group on Facebook which will be able to answer your questions. Good luck!
Seemed too aggressive.
They're full speed racing bikes designed for reducing energy expenditure during the race.
The public is being deliberately mislead by david and so we're reporting the video to the authority for misleading the public.
I used domane al 3 for 1 yeear, its really good bike value for money
The old brands need to get their prices straight. Sure, prices for a hobby are based on value + emotion, but I really doubt a trek or s-works is three times as good as a normal good bike.
Is the fair light as smooth as carbon. I always experience massiv Vibration with steel
Can I use your video on my you tube for reference?
The look optimum 765 is also a great endurance bike.
Hi David,
Very much enjoy the content. I ride a Bianchi Infinito CV 2020 (Ultegra). I would be really interested in your opinion. Hardly any reviews on it on UA-cam. This model around since 2019 I think so probably an upgrade coming.
I loved the Infinito CV when it first launched, one of the early really good endurance bikes but it hasn’t been updated in several years
Without BMC Roadmachine this list is incomplete. The best machine money can buy.
I bought the RoadMachine 2 a few weeks ago and regardless of which stem I fit it with, I keep experiencing inconsistent back issues. I’m 6 feet 3 with stupidly long legs so opted for the 58cm; I would have preferred less seat post out with the 60cm frame but the reach would have been too long. I think the recommended price is astronomical but after the guy gave me like a £1500 discount without prompt (I’m assuming he needed the businesses following the downturn), I couldn’t say no! Fell in love with Sram force immediately but feel that the overly large downtube makes it a few hundred grams heavier than necessary. It is however, supremely comfortable, actually, the comfort is disgustingly good. Personally, I replaced the hopeless flat Fizik seat for a fully carbon Velo.
Appreciate that I'm possibly an odd one out. I would really appreciate an endurance style frame (with wide clearances and mudguard mounts) but with a longer/lower position, for winter riding.
I find the fit of racing bikes more comfortable, but having mudguards and wide tyres are essential for winter.
Take a look at David's review of the 2022 Giant Revolt Advanced. I think it ticks all the boxes.
ua-cam.com/video/P2-8q5pHAjk/v-deo.html
@@two_oldbucks4617 the revolt is a gravel bike with a relatively relaxed geometry, unpessnI'm mistaken.
@@two_oldbucks4617 currently have something similar (Norco Search), which is a great bike but I can't get quite the right position.
@@twatts4436 Ignore the word gravel and look at the geometry and what David thinks of its performance on the road.
@@two_oldbucks4617 like I said, have had a bike with a similar geo. It's not bad, but quite what I was after. But without spending daft money on a custom frame, it's a great choixe
What are your thoughts on the BMC roach machine compared to these? Specifically to the Domane.
Cube attain. Race gtc love this bike
I know its not endurance(i.e the aethos). But my next bike will be either the specialized aethos expert or the Canyon Endurace CF SL. Thanks for the video. What are your thoughts on the Condor range though?
I can't believe that an internally geared hub or pinion system bike wasn't included on this "best of" list.
I bought my son a Synapse and I have a Bianchi Oltre XR4. If you put a gun to my head and told me I had to ride 200km on one of them, I'd have to pick his Synapse and get there later. It's almost akin to switching a hardtail mountain bike for a full-sus when it comes to comfort.
BMC Roadmachine?
No
@@Hernsama Doch!
For most riders out there that couldn't justify spending $1000 more to save half a kilo of mass, most of the models listed in the video above also have a more affordable aluminum version, usually running on the "groupset of the people", 105 R7000. Unless you are racing up a hill, the difference between aluminum and carbon should be negligible.
Missing the Ridley Fenix
I ride an old Felt Z5 bike.
How is their new VR bikes?
I just got my Litespeed T5. More comfort for my ol’ bones
Is specialize allez alright?