I voted for Reform last election, but Richard Tice called me one of "that lot" for supporting the Unite the Kingdom rallies and Tommy Robinson, so I'll now give my vote to UKIP next election. Also remember they have a Muslim chairman, which for me, is another red flag.
.Farage has called Muslims in Britain a fifth column. Muslims are not inherently jihadist. Britain can and will turn this around, but you can't do anything without POWER. Your vote to UKIP is a wasted vote. A vote for Reform is not, therefore that is your best bet.
It is very refreshing to see you devoting some of your time and energy to politics, as you are a good public speaker! In that field I would probably agree with you a lot more than on religion, as I am an atheist and a communist, albeit of the old traditional (patriotic) variety which has nothing to do with the modern left. To me Farage is not a democrat but a demagogue who wants to keep all his options open and move to left or right according to where the wind blows. And I believe that you have assessed him correctly by what you said. Someone recently made an interesting comparative analogy of two pairs of politicians undertaking to make the parties involved attractive to both left and right. The two pairs were: T Blair (addressing the neo- liberal middle class) teamed with J. Prescott (appealing to the working class) N Farage (addressing the neo- liberal middle class) teamed with R. Lowe (appealing to the working class) If you follow the second pair's current rhetoric you may find the point justified. Not that it will make any difference in the end. Reform (Deform-to be precise) is doomed to failure and oblivion. The people will not take it seriously in the end, they will feel that the security it promises is like the covid vaccine. This is only a copy-paste of my postings elsewhere The Era of always choosing the lesser evil for lack of credible alternatives has already started to pass since the American election, and again we are in the debt of the American people's initiative. This Deform party is so deformed by now that Ben Habib was sabotaged and forced to leave, and the only hope for internal democracy died with his withdrawal, that its political face is already unrecognizable from the one it was wearing even two months ago. Certain People may (very justifiably) make some mistake (probably not a mistake at all) that there are hidden dangers or benefits (depending on how you take it) existing for it or to it. Dear DEFORM… (who would have thought it!) Btw, should we call it a "party"? Labour is a party, Tories are a party, but what is this? It is only a privately owned company committed to nothing and no one, is it not? Some of the afore mentioned dangers are: 1 it may be faced with a massive wave of applications to join it by people with blue hair and numerous pronouns attached to their names. 2 it may be faced with a massive wave of applications to join it by members of certain Asiatic religious denominations and creeds. 3 it may be faced with a massive wave of applications to join it by affiliation, from NGOs and various other do-gooders. 4 Even one from Bill Gates, or Soros or Ursula should not be a surprise. All the above seem to be the natural friends and allies to its developing political doctrines. Which makes me wonder what Elon Musk is thinking about. I hope that Elon will think very deeply and carefully about the implications of the late statements of Nigel Farage (a crypho-globalist in populist trousers imo), about Immigration, but also about democratic process in general that are present and are re-defining REFORM in the last 2-3 months and as we speak, and he will not offer any money to the great Deform. This Deform-Improvised Free Form party (nowhere near as good as free-form jazz), throwing T. Robinson under the bass, not supporting mass deportations, sabotaging Ben Habib and forcing him to leave, and referring to their voters and supporters as "that lot", does not make it any different than any globalist party. Farage is as wet as a wet December Sunday morning (like now), not a serious politician, he is certainly not like Trump, and Reform is not a political party but a privately owned company. It is certainly not the Republican party. Stay away from it, let it go into the political oblivion it deserves. I like your argument for total victory as a debt to Christ. It is inspiring even to atheists/cultural Christians like me. There are alternatives which you have already pointed to and with those let us stand.
I'm a bit confused. Are you saying that Islam is wrong because it is moving to the extreme, but Christianity needs to be more extreme? Surely a Muslim could have said the exact same i.e. they shouldn't worry about being called extreme, and you would condemn that?
Christianity at its extreme is to love your neighbour as yourself, bless those who curse you and feed your enemies. Islam at its extreme is fight the unbelievers until they pay the jizya willingly submitting, fully humbled and your wives and daughters taken as sex slaves. Which one do you want?
Of course they aren't a christian party. It's a secular country, and the majority of UK citizens have always been left wing. Politics should have nothing to do with religion.
Islam the snake in the grass, moderate Islam the grass that hides the snake.
I will still vote reform
Farage for Prime Minister!
Amen
Reform needs to take this to heart. They are starting to lose touch with the hard working people.
If you split the votes, we will end up back in 4 years' time to having either a Tory or Labour government.
The disasters..
So what do you want.
@@nathan2386 I'm glad you put out this fact, until we are stronger, we must all stick together. No splits please.
Agree with you excellent if Reform take on Christianity they will win !!! Following God !!!!!
He’s got a Muslim Chairman! He must have thought that would win him some Muslims.
I voted for Reform last election, but Richard Tice called me one of "that lot" for supporting the Unite the Kingdom rallies and Tommy Robinson, so I'll now give my vote to UKIP next election. Also remember they have a Muslim chairman, which for me, is another red flag.
.Farage has called Muslims in Britain a fifth column. Muslims are not inherently jihadist. Britain can and will turn this around, but you can't do anything without POWER. Your vote to UKIP is a wasted vote. A vote for Reform is not, therefore that is your best bet.
Not 60 years, 25 years, he spoke of 2050.
I'm atheist and this guy is correct on this subject.bow to Islam my arse.and I don't want blasphemy laws by any if you.
Be careful who you let into your camp.
Well this Christian will support them because they are fighting for the ordinary British people the underdog and not the greedy elites.
Bob has same thoughts on this as I do. Farage is shaky. Tice is smarmy and insincere imo.
Becoming truer conservative i'd say
We want Reform to sort out Immigration as they promise to do .
@@chrisperry22cap They had better.
It is very refreshing to see you devoting some of your time and energy to politics, as you are a good public speaker! In that field I would probably agree with you a lot more than on religion, as I am an atheist and a communist, albeit of the old traditional (patriotic) variety which has nothing to do with the modern left.
To me Farage is not a democrat but a demagogue who wants to keep all his options open and move to left or right according to where the wind blows. And I believe that you have assessed him correctly by what you said.
Someone recently made an interesting comparative analogy of two pairs of politicians undertaking to make the parties involved attractive to both left and right.
The two pairs were:
T Blair (addressing the neo- liberal middle class) teamed with J. Prescott (appealing to the working class)
N Farage (addressing the neo- liberal middle class) teamed with R. Lowe (appealing to the working class)
If you follow the second pair's current rhetoric you may find the point justified.
Not that it will make any difference in the end. Reform (Deform-to be precise) is doomed to failure and oblivion. The people will not take it seriously in the end, they will feel that the security it promises is like the covid vaccine.
This is only a copy-paste of my postings elsewhere
The Era of always choosing the lesser evil for lack of credible alternatives has already started to pass since the American election, and again we are in the debt of the American people's initiative.
This Deform party is so deformed by now that Ben Habib was sabotaged and forced to leave, and the only hope for internal democracy died with his withdrawal, that its political face is already unrecognizable from the one it was wearing even two months ago. Certain People may (very justifiably) make some mistake (probably not a mistake at all) that there are hidden dangers or benefits (depending on how you take it) existing for it or to it. Dear DEFORM… (who would have thought it!)
Btw, should we call it a "party"? Labour is a party, Tories are a party, but what is this? It is only a privately owned company committed to nothing and no one, is it not?
Some of the afore mentioned dangers are:
1 it may be faced with a massive wave of applications to join it by people with blue hair and numerous pronouns attached to their names.
2 it may be faced with a massive wave of applications to join it by members of certain Asiatic religious denominations and creeds.
3 it may be faced with a massive wave of applications to join it by affiliation, from NGOs and various other do-gooders.
4 Even one from Bill Gates, or Soros or Ursula should not be a surprise.
All the above seem to be the natural friends and allies to its developing political doctrines.
Which makes me wonder what Elon Musk is thinking about. I hope that Elon will think very deeply and carefully about the implications of the late statements of Nigel Farage (a crypho-globalist in populist trousers imo), about Immigration, but also about democratic process in general that are present and are re-defining REFORM in the last 2-3 months and as we speak, and he will not offer any money to the great Deform.
This Deform-Improvised Free Form party (nowhere near as good as free-form jazz), throwing T. Robinson under the bass, not supporting mass deportations, sabotaging Ben Habib and forcing him to leave, and referring to their voters and supporters as "that lot", does not make it any different than any globalist party.
Farage is as wet as a wet December Sunday morning (like now), not a serious politician, he is certainly not like Trump, and Reform is not a political party but a privately owned company. It is certainly not the Republican party.
Stay away from it, let it go into the political oblivion it deserves.
I like your argument for total victory as a debt to Christ. It is inspiring even to atheists/cultural Christians like me. There are alternatives which you have already pointed to and with those let us stand.
I used to be an Atheist but now I don't believe in that either.
I'm a bit confused. Are you saying that Islam is wrong because it is moving to the extreme, but Christianity needs to be more extreme? Surely a Muslim could have said the exact same i.e. they shouldn't worry about being called extreme, and you would condemn that?
Christianity at its extreme is to love your neighbour as yourself, bless those who curse you and feed your enemies. Islam at its extreme is fight the unbelievers until they pay the jizya willingly submitting, fully humbled and your wives and daughters taken as sex slaves. Which one do you want?
VOTE REFORM
This guy talks nonsense
Nope.
@@Cybertruck1000 yes
Of course they aren't a christian party. It's a secular country, and the majority of UK citizens have always been left wing. Politics should have nothing to do with religion.
Not an informed speaker.
More informed than you.
rubbish
Talking crap
How? Expand on it?
"We want to move forward as a BRITISH country!" I The Pledge ua-cam.com/video/NLqtgsuiAsY/v-deo.html