Hello people in the future! Let’s see if these problems were fixed in the update!!!! -Eggman. Eggman is just….no. -Cream is pretty useful now. -Rouges evasion got replaced with remote trap. Aswell as other characters got replaced abilities. -Knuckles got insane cooldown reduces. That should make up for his easily baitable abilities. -EXES linger is still annoying. Not as annoying. But still annoying. -Metals grapple problem got fixed. Overall, most problems were fixed. Eggman is just a big no no still. Imo he was made worser. He has potential but he is kinda weak. And the EXES are still shredding through everything. Small EXE I have seen a change in. But Big EXE, now named Kolososs now, can still be a powerhouse. Other than that, most things got fixed!
DONT buff rouge, shes actually INSANELY overpowered AGAINST BIG EXE BECAUSE HIS INDICATOR LASTS SO SHORT, rouge mains with a bit of skill can TIME PERFECTLY HOW LONG BIG SONICS INDICATOR LASTS, AND THEY NEVER RUN OUT OF EVASION ITS SO ANNOYING, THEY ALWAYS END UP HAVING 0 DT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Not sure where to put this, but a neat-ish idea for an eggamn buff. you can use the shock WHILE being grabbed. Of course, It would be fairly op for when it first comes out, but I think it would bring him to a perfect spot. (There could be a downside where you take damage from using the shock in a dangerous scenario(Like a longer cooldown, or taking 25 Dmg outright (will not kill you)))
Ihope next restore tickle not swapping in his moves shadow and his make variant to boost if he jump and do boost will he go up and if he boost will be regular boost and knuckles should be buff him like gilde and climb and some mechanics
i’d like to point out some things mentioned in the video outlaik has said in a recent stream that cream is designed to be bad, and that he doesn’t intend on giving cream her glide back anytime soon in the same stream, outlaik said he added the lunge to grab so people would actually use grab, because back then nobody really used it
@@theshutuperedited my comment like 3 times already and when i refreshed i found out you replied lmaooo he said nothing about the lunge, but from what i know it’s simply ping, outlaik can’t really do anything about it
@@le_sweetcandypopeven with perfect ping, lunge still manages to have the worst linger I’ve ever seen…also thanks for telling me about what outlaik said in his stream :p
@@theshutuperoutlaik said in one of his streams that he gave small Exe linger because he wanted to make the game easier for the exes and that he thinks it’s a bit unfair for just the survivors to have linger on their attacks
I don't Think cream should have a stun. But at least some offense ability, something Else that she could use that Gives her a small advantage,cuz the moment where Speed boost ends, you're done for lmo
OutLaik said that the game should be easy for the EXE, not for the survivors, that's why it's so unfair. I get that the survivors shouldn't be too OP since there can be a lot of them and can easily overpower the EXE, but right now, the game is heavily focused on the EXEs to make them even harder to fight with (which, I guess, should be a challenge for the survivors, since it should be hard for them, not the EXE), but the EXE can literally slaughter the whole team of 6, for example, within a minute or two, which is extremely frustrating. They should make both teams at least a LITTLE more balanced, because right now, the game is all about luck and hope that you have a decent enough team which can give somebody time to at least win a solo run. The bugs and other things should definitely get fixed, I agree on that.
@@izaax2nd True that. I get that outlaik wanted to help the EXES, but I shouldn’t even be able to murder everyone under 2 minutes. Which is annoying and makes me not wanna play EXE cause it gets boring. Though I feel like outlaik did it to make EXE not much of a struggle to play with, but that linger is way too powerful.
@@TheKris. True. It needs to be balanced on both teams. Even for a bloodthirsty demon. And since it's a literal game, it should take a good amount of skills on both sides, not yawn on one side and sweat on the other.
@izaax2nd and this design choice actively downplays the supposed survivors who are literally light speed demons with superhuman strength,this is why I prefer the 2D version despite having it's own fair share of drama and terrible game design,it feels like a sonic.exe game not a horror game with characters wearing sonic skins.
A complaint I have is that Hide and Seek Act 1 is like the most broken map in this game. Here’s a few examples of stuff I’ve seen/have issues with: -Exe gets pushed through a wall, rendering him stuck until the round ended -Exe gets stuck in a rock after grabbing Metal while Metal had activated Push at the same time -Metal being revived by me and immediately being thrown off the map because he was revived while being near a invisible wall(he was grabbed by Exe) -Some of the walls near springs aren’t smooth, causing people to get stuck. A player shouldn’t be able to get stuck in a wall, that’s bad map design, especially when the walls that are like that are in tight, small spots that make it easier to get hit by Exe -The monochrome effect when you get picked up is BAD on this map. You cannot see anything 3 feet in front of you, I can see better in … and that maps whole thing is being dark. Bonus Issue I have with maps: -In Hide and Seek Act 2, Metal Sonic and Exe were both thrown off the map when you guessed it, the both used Grab + Push at the same time. -Kind and Fair has an issue where characters like Amy, Shadow, Eggman and Tails can just camp somewhere while everyone else can go fuck themselves apparently. Too many people do this and it ruins the map for me honestly. -Hill is too big and needs less invisible wall areas.
@@magicaniits also easy to get someone out of a grab, tails, metal, shadow and sally r good against a grab because of stuns, shadows boost and sally being able to sheild someone preventing a grab or stopping exe from stabbing someone. with good timing u can also stun right after he grabs u
tbh grab needs to show everyone where they are not just when they need reviving because its legit just a first life gone or atleast make it so you can brake out
I agree. Small exe lunge is big problem, I dodge then he comes back around and hits me anyways. 2, eggmans shock (in my opinion) cooldown should be lowered to 25 seconds. And mabe the hight of the jetpack boot increased. Also metals grapple is actually accurate for me
Knuckles: *gets glide ability* Everyone after: *doesn’t even care* And Cream- well yeah she’s almost useless. No point in the speedboost if Exe can just spindash and catch up, or the exe2 charge attack (It’s only good when I use it-)
Ideas- cream glide to be back but in another way, if she would jump from very tall building her glide would activate but its not like she can activate her glide every time she jumps her glide would have also 40/20 cooldown and only activates when she jumos from tall height , or mix her glide with speed boost meaning her ability to glide would be back but speed boost removed but mixed with her glide so if she would activate her glide she would glide faster but go down faster ,sonic exe nerf- make the cooldown long just like sonic exe 2, for sonic exe 2 they should make the grab damage low but fast , shadow-erm idk
I 100% agree wuth eggman and cream being useless. I used to main the two of them a lot more on previous versions. Now i barely use eggman, i can't see why outlaik thiught the shock nerf was needed
2:00 hell yeah outlaik,that so genius giving big exe a lunges for grab,FOR DUMB GRAB THAT COULD ALREADY CAUGHT YOU EVEN IF YOU ALREADY WAS IN OTHER SIDE OF MAP
aside from that many people complain about the hitboxes and guess what outlaik already tried to fix them its just the ping,the worse it it the worse your hitbox will be and vice versa im pretty sure that hitboxes refresh overtime to sync with your character but because of the ping it lags and can freeze in one place so it fails to sync in time either that or roblox servers suck
I agree cream heals is useless because of lunge and Eggman shock lasted only2 but to fix it there are three ways 1.they make eggamn’s shock last 3 second or they fix the jetpack 2.they buff cream’s healing ability to be at lest 30or35 and they return her glide back but different then tails 3.nerf the exes to make fair for the survival
Eso es cierto..eggman era mi personaje favorito en este juego y en otras versiones. Pero ahora se convirtio en un personaje muy inutil. Las veces que lo uso no duro ningun segundo sin recibir daño del Exe.espero que lo arreglen porfavor...
As an eggman Main I heavily agree Without teammates near me I’m just a target for exe when I use up my shock, that nerf wasn’t necessary at all! But even with this nerf I can get some wins just barely… If I was to change one thing about eggman which would be a plus and a negative id change how the shock works, here me out I feel like shock could work like Sallys Sheild, when hit by exe it’s gone but when a minion does it takes away durability, so here’s my suggestion… Whenever eggman has his shock on and a minion is hit by it it’s still there but the shock will be weakened a bit, it would take 3 minions to get rid of the shock and if the exe gets stunned it would be used completely, the positives of this idea is that you will be able to stun many other exes to make it easier for you and others to escape, the negatives however would be if minions were to take the shock for the exe the shock would be gone or to weak to properly stun the exe making very risky but very rewarding to hit exe with the stun If you’ll have better ideas feel free to tell me in the replies below
@@flamanimation9048 I agree. It’s bad enough when hammer throw came back people started playing characters less. Especially eggman. That nerf wasn’t even necessary and now he’s barely playable. Also nice suggestion!!!
@@theshutuper well, atleast it’s easier for me to get eggman now XD But thank you for the feedback, I have other suggestions to make the game more fun but I won’t go into details, they’re mostly about game mechanics and changes to characters and how they would work
also you missed one metal,s charge can be outran by exes with higher or same ping as you as they either move too fast or lag right outside the grab,s reach aka metal does not go any faster during the rocket boost
Ok,here it comes -I'd nerf Exe2's damage to deal 50 dmg instead of 65,now while that doesnt change much,it makes cream a slightly better counter for exe2. -Knuckles is a character that really needs a buff but i dont see anyone talking about it,Block depending on the exe can be really useless(Just dont attack him too early),Punch as well,its so slow in comparision with Amy's hammer attack that it can be predictable sometimes,to fix that two things could be done, 1-Give Knuckles a Lunge when hes going to punch,2-Could be a third ability for him,i think his Spin attack from Nb and Nbr should be his 3rd ability,it would work like pre-rework Shadow's Dash
exe 2 is genuelly built to be bullied so no theres 11 offense moves in the game w his big hitbox and slow movement spee hes very easy to loop and get thrown off ledges nerfing him would make him unplayable (he already is close to unplayable in the current version) knuckles is very good just relies on skill his cooldonwns are low if u hit ur moves ur never gonna get hit and also hammer attack and punch have the same speed (w hammer attack having a larger hitbox)
Outlaik said he’s not going to buff knuckles as he has always been a well rounded character. I do agree he might need a buff later on because other characters keep getting buffed.
I'd say the best buff you can give Knuckles is make it so the block works if he collides with EXE while EXE is doing his attack animation, not if EXE directly hits him. That way it's a lot more consistent, since a lot of the time block doesn't work simply because EXE straight up missed the attack on Knuckles even though EXE phased through him, and now Knuckles is defenseless.
honestly I really like this update, but there are just so many flaws that ruin the experience for me, especially grab, like have you seen how fast the blood drain is for that thing
Let’s see if these problems were fixed in the update! Cream is now MUCH better! Overheal can basically negate grab, it has a shorter cooldown than heal, and it can easily allow survivors that got revived to still fight the exe and help the team. Eggman’s turrets are good when used right, and his jetpack is amazing now. I just wish he still had shock with his kit, but Outlaik says he’ll never add it back 😔 As for lunge, I’m not sure if it got nerfed, but the hitboxes seem much bigger now. I’ve jumped over exes, and survivors have jumped over me when I’m exe, but they still get hit. This has sorta happened before the full release, but I feel like it happens even more now. And sadly linger still exists
I really hope the 1.2 prototype comes back because there it felt more fair and less jittery when exe hits you, and exe and survivors wasn’t completely op not to mention how they nerfed amy so hard in this update, hammer throw is garbage and hammer attack is just lacking it’s charm in all honesty, plus it’s hitbox was significant changed which makes it way harder to actually hit exe, and thats if you’re lucky bc most exes bait you into it and spam lunge to kill you. I swear these exes are so garbage in their own scenarios
@@Thescrawnyrottenshrimp I've played a fair amount of 1.2 Shadow and here's the most useful scenarios I've found for Homing Attack! :D 1) Use it kind of like a block. If you know EXE will lunge at you, quickly hit it to counter him. If you do it right it never fails. 2) Simply combo it with Boost. (Boost > Homing Attack). I'd recommend you do this if: a) You're far from your teammates and need to buy some time to reach them, or b) You can knock EXE off a cliff with Homing Attack. Do note it's sometimes better to save Homing Attack or Boost for things such as grabs! 3) Use it to juke the EXE. Fall off of a high place, and when EXE falls after you, use the Homing Attack to boost yourself back onto the high place and gain distance. This is especially good in maps like "...", You Can't Run or sometimes You Can't Run 2. Those are the 3 best uses I've found for it. It's a decent ability, just a bit gimmicky.
@@Thescrawnyrottenshrimp wait for a green target on the exe. once that appears you press the jump button to fling yourself at him. If you hit, thats some knockback to the exe. If not, you still gained some distance on him
Eggman was fine beforehand. He didn’t need the nerf imo. Before he was great at defending himself considering the fair stun time and the area of effect when shock is activated. But now he’s more just a stun chain starter. (Oh and don’t get me started with his stun time when exe has shortened stun times cuz of the stun chain nerf RAAAAH)
I think they should at least make the Stun Shortening effect not apply to him. (it's a 2 second stun ffs) that way he's useful for starting stun chains or something. Right now the only use he has is zoning EXE away from teammates. Even then, the 30 second cooldown is, yikes..
@@Vortxnity07 fr, the stun is already short enough alone. With the stun shortening its comparable to the person player exe’s finger slipping. They legit start moving again right after the stun.
All metal sonic's abilitys make him in trouble its almost impossible for him to win if he is the last one alive here my concept if metal sonic as no one to protect When metal sonic will be the last one standing he will get a option to activate his solo mod since he as no one to protect Push repliced by dash:metal sonic will be able to dash (cooldown 26 sec)like old shadow but if he dash on a exe the exe will get pushed and metal sonic continuing his dash Grapple replaced by badniks:metal sonic will be able to call one badniks to help him (cooldown 23 sec)every badniks as différents abiltys Motobug:claw hit push exes a little bit (cooldown 15 sec) Bettle:transport metal sonic away metal sonic will able to go where ever he want but the energy are similar to tails but smaller Crab:a very slow badnik that can stun 1 sec a exe(cooldown 20sec) Exmes can destroy them but they can be useful for metal sonic these badniks can be played by AI or players in the lobby if they are boring
If their gonna make eggman this weak now, they should change the shock into a more High risk but high rewards treatment For shadow we already know his airboost needs s. Cream's sprint lunge is decently good but if there's one thing i want them to have is to make the lunge act like shadow's tackle but cost her to cancell out the sprint although her cd is cut down by half that way she isn't just even more useless
NO WAY ANOTHER SMART PERSON REALISING TD HAS SHIT BALANCE. the balance was always bad but metal now somewhat covers up for it instead of fixing the issues he just put metal to hide the flaws
man, as an eggman, shadow and metal main.. i suffer in silence + they also could help tails mobile aim, maybe make the circle a lil more faded? idk, something like in the 1.1
Also in the new update,they removed eggmans Electric attack with some turret that slows down the EXE,which....seems useless because you can lunge and charge (Small Exe and Kolossos) Cream is MID
@@ThatBlueSol imo, I think cream is pretty good now. When you think about it, creams overheal is basically just like shield share. They both get countered in the same way, they both work as a shield in the same way, and they are both temporal. It’s your opinion though so you don’t have to agree. But the opinion on eggman? I agree 100% PERCENT. He is just as useless as amy without her hammer…
@@theshutuper creams "heal shield" isnt that usefull,but with sallys shield it can work,but i dont see how usefull it can work that much,its only there for like 5 seconds and the Large Exe can do large amounts of Damage too one single player,so.... (what i meant is that if you use both shields i think it can work.)
@@theshutuper another thing about the overheal is that it doesnt work like defense since i get hit with overheal and the hit goes through the overheal to my normal HP.
0:27 reworked heal tbh not gonna help cream,no one teammate would survive 90 seconds for an advantage of taking an extra hit from exe(especially if its exe2 with broken grab💀🙏)
@@theshutuperI think cream with a 30 seconds cool Down heal with 25 is better but not 65 for 90 seconds cools down the big exe can deal 60 damage wasting all that healing it would make cream mains become more mad cuz they have to wait a whole 90 seconds
@@theshutuper in my opinion she just needs heal buff, maybe having 2 heal abilities, or 2 charges to heal 2 people at once or same person twice to guarantee them to survive one more hit, or just simply reduce cooldown so she can heal more, especially when there's a lot of people on one team
Knuckles punch.. Why does small exe have long ahh linger, and big exe and can deal massive damage and have grab lunge.. but then knuckles gets punished because he was 1 centimeter to far from exe. Knuckles punch should have linger to it.
@@ImWatchingYouFreak I agree! Even though I don’t use knuckles and I main amy, ever since hammer throw came back I feel like knuckles got outclassed by amy due to her having more options. Knuckles punch needs a buff.
Instead of 65 hp i think they should let cream run / walk while shes healing or give her the twirl stun like in dimensional coalescense and give her a glide, cream these days lowkey are not good but kinda
im so mad they gave big exe a block, aswell as it having less cooldown then most stuns, nerf it for electric attack (shock and arm cannon) to stun it, and block only for melee (punch, hammer attack, hammer throw)
Something I just remembered, he has one odd advantage. Due to his large hitbox he doesnt have to jump into the ending ring, he can walk into it. Meaning if you used your jump and its on CD you can still exit.
I have a lot of thoughts on this apparently. I hate how Creams heal is only 25, especially against Big EXE. They invalidate Creams existence by existing. Small EXE for all his bullshit still respects with health. One heal gives someone another hit against Small EXE and if you want to give someone another hit you have to heal them twice. It allows for the heals to be spread more naturally.
Now with the new 1,2 released cream’s heal actually works a bit now. You don’t have to heal twice just to make someone not vulnerable to big and small EXE. I haven’t actually played as eggman in 1.2 yet but I will edit this when I play as him.
Alr I played as him and I have to admit, he’s better than his older version. Not counting 1.0 and 1.1 because those were when eggman was actually good. The turret works better than the shock since you can hide for most of the rounds compared to being at risk in normal EXE TD rounds
Some of these issuees getting fixed i think but yeah i agree mostly. Outlaik also gets glazed just because he's a solo dev too. i like outlaik a lot and respect him a lot too, but like....jus cuz ur a solo dev doesnt mean you can put minimum effort
Hmmmm "When I play as Small EXE, I shouldn't not be able to kill everyone under 2 minutes"... That's what i do with Koloss. Kill everyone in 2 minutes(No grabbing).
My biggest problem with this game right now is that it's useless skills, lacking new characters and maps, and it's unbalanced and certain characters Cream was okay in 1.0, but I still don't understand why glide was removed, But the exe was buffed to the point where the risk of 50 heals in 90 seconds is completely stupid Eggman was indeed a favorite character of the people and he was very good... In 1.0, from 1.1 onwards they started to mess too much with his shock and jetpack and they just ruined it to the point where it is... Today Tails and Amy are having abusive cooldowns, Glide with 30 seconds? 20 from Hammer Throw but 28 and 31 from Hammer Bounce and Hammer Attack? Metal Sonic's grapple is poorly made, Shadow is difficult to use but he's at least decent, unlike Tackle Shadow or Block Shadow which usually... A knuckles, amy or an Eggman easily replaces him. Hill map is a mess to navigate, they removed many parts that helped you escape and added MANY areas with invisible walls, in addition to removing the bridge. Rouge is okay, she's meant to be difficult, crying about her is a skill issue, but yes, she needs some measly buffs. Knuckles is generic and boring to use, he's simply a metal Sonic, an Amy worse and without any charismatic skill I find some songs really boring, like Escape from the Test Zone and Has1, And how many characters have their kits changed or nerfed for no reason Removal of passive perks, such as Hand of Kindness, Nerves of Stell or Rouge's old passive, remove Glide from Cream,Add EMP to Sally but remove her roll???? Why???? Nerf the skills by decreasing range, duration, hit distance, but increasing the cooldown without adding a third skill (Tails, Eggman, Knuckles, Cream, Shadow, Sally because Give Shield doesn't count as a thrid skill) And since the game is taking a long time to add new things, since 1.0 the game doesn't seem to progress much, I consider 1.1 the worst update so far because it's simply the most bruh thing possible. At least in the current update 1.2, Metal Sonic and Base came, let's hope this doesn't become something rare and Outlaik manages to make the game evolve more than it already is. And no, it's not a hate letter to Outlaik or saying that his project is bad, I know it's hard to work alone on a big project, but still, there's always room for improvement. And I honestly love this game, despite the problems of this current version, I hope, pray that Outlaik reads the reviews and comes back with things removed from the past
@@nescalzinho I agree with everything you said. Amy and tails should’nt have abusive cooldowns. Maps are hard to navigate. Boring music. Lunge, Removal of good stuff. Characters being straight up useless, It’s just a hot mess smh.
@@theshutuper The only thing I disagree with that you mentioned in the video was the 65 HP to 90 and Cooldawn, literally, a high cooldawn like that would only make Cream even worse. From the calculations I had made, the idea or closest to it would be 40 HP for 36 cooldawn Brute exe: 100 - 65 = 35 + 40 = 75 - 65 = 10 Classic Exe: 100 - 45 = 55 - 45 = 10 + 40 = 50 - 45 = 5 The 36 cooldawn is due to the fact that Cream already takes 4 seconds to finish healing her, so, 36 + 4, 40, equal to what she provides, it cannot give an extremely high cooldawn because otherwise the usefulness disappears And yes, I agree that exes deserve a Nerf, I liked the ideas but it doesn't execute, grab Lunge wouldn't be problematic if it activated the damage tracker and the damage and bleed itself wasn't very strong, classic exe I like it like that, at most I would put a slightly smaller range, a greater consequence for using the lunge, and increase the for its damage The current balance problem is not exactly that the exes are too strong, but rather that they are too strong but the survivors are too weak, as I mentioned above. Abusive cooldown, predictable skills, generic skill sets, useless supports, etc., etc., meanwhile an exe grabs you by the neck and sucks your life out of a straw as if they were drinking a milkshake
@@nescalzinhoI agree! And thank you for the calculations for the cream suggestion cause I felt like I was making a mistake. They really need to buff the survivors.
i dont think cream needs glide back because welp, thatd make tails not unique, I think as a 3rd ability, she should get "Dodge" She does the speedboost dash like 4 times left and right, giving her s for 5-7 seconds, if sonic tries hitting cream during this he'l be slowed down slightly, this is just to make cream a bit stronger against sonic, this also can just replace heal when cream enters a solo also, dont buff rouge, shes insanely op against big sonic please AAA
how ironic,to rewatch that video after drop of full version of 1.2 and be way more dissapointed in nerf on one character,that was mine(and not only me mained him)main... istg,bring back da shocker(atleast as a second ability),the turrets wont do a [bruh] to exes and minions,they can literally just do a *_boop_* and turrets ded .-. if you wanted see eggman as support,then why you wou'ldnt give turrets in a first place??? that's dumb decision to make eggman stunner since td older than 1.0 for sure and then in full release do a full castration... now i dont want touch eggman even with an 100 km stick -_-
True. But creams heal ability is generally weak due to everyone being able to die under 2 minutes due to exes linger. Which is pretty disappointing for cream because heal is the only ability in the game that restores HP and is a game changer. Unfortunately, heal is heavily countered :CCCCCC
@@theshutuper Yeah, unless we are in a large team and little Sonic is chosen. And I feel like grapple should be slightly inaccurate so that way it doesn't over shadow Tails.
Outlaik noticed how suspiciously moderately balanced Eggman was looking and decided to he had to ruin it. But in all seriousness, the only characters worth playing anymore are; ..oh right, theres hardly any! Let me rank them from worst to best any why, because nobody asked and I have the power to type whatever I want. - Eggman. He's not necessarily the worst on his own, but given how his fall from grace (which is a tragedy and should be documented on), he looks miserable. - Shadow. Again, he used to be cool. A good support. Now? Now he's more useless than Cream, because once you've used both your short ass abilities, you're cooked. - Cream, of course. Her speed boost is so easily counter-able, and heal does next to nothing if your teammates aren't lucky as hell and have half a braincell. - Tails. If you have good aim and the map is suited to you, he's alright. The moment you land from glide though, its over, unless you're just built like that. (and I mean *really* built like that) - Amy. Hear me out, I was going to put Sally here but, for reasons I didn't. Amy seems amazing on paper, 3 abilities, all with different uses- but 1. Her hammer attack is so janky, 2. hammer bounce is good on certain maps, but easily counter-able on others, plus it only buys you like 5 seconds thanks to- you guessed it, charge/spindash. And 3, hammer throw is good and all, until you realise you're going to be without a hammer for a damn long time unless your team is useful enough to help you get it back, because every moment you go for it exe will just pounce. - Sally. Without shield, she's kinda mid, however I find if you use her shield and EMP strategically, the cooldowns are alright, cuz' once one runs out the other is soon to regen. - Rouge. This might sound like some stupid opinion, but what more could you want from a character? You can hide when your team is doing f* all, you can blind exe which goes in par with your ability to hide, you can place sensors which helps you not run into the exe when you're evading him, plus it helps your team too. And if that wasn't good enough, you get what is essentially an attack dodge too, with all moderate cooldowns. - Knuckles. Yes, I am biased. His cooldowns are really short, and although block sucks ass, you can still get it to work in your favour if you're used to Knuckles enough. And even when it does get you hit, the same can be said for a lot of other character's abilities. And finally, the best character, Metal Sonic. You get a goofy ass hitbox which practically guarantees ATLEAST 70 dt if you have skill, an ability that can throw exe off of literally any ledge you desire, and a grapple that can either act as a start-up for your push, or to drag exe down to the abyss. Also his cooldowns are fair for how messed up his hitbox is and the fact he has 3 hits.
@@M3mMMriz3 Yeah, Sally's cooldowns are comparable to Knuckles' cooldowns. If you're good at juking you can easily stall EXE on your own for at least 30 seconds.
Not only that there are tryhards or kolossos only users they can use sonic 1 but they dont use since sonic 1 cant do alot damage but can be used when something called "big team" exists bc of that our team cant counter and most days no one uses the grab kinda good but bad since people will not expect if a grabber is there...
Tbh Eggman did Not deserve that Nerf He Literally my Main Like Bro 2 SECOND FOR A STUN ?? AND THE COOLDOWN ON 28 or 30 IS CRAZY they gotta buff his Shock To 4 second And The Big Exe Need to Nerf his DAMN GRAB LIKE WHY BUFFING HIS GRAB GIVING HIM SMALL LUNGE ON A GRAB 😭
As an Eggmain, I was devastated when Eggy got nerfed... Also (after getting to Metal's Grapple), not sure if I suck with aiming, but Amy's Hammer Throw is kinda iffy too. I know since it travels an arc, that you have to like... adjust your aim if that makes sense? But I feel like the hammer should just land where your cursor is.
If outlaik intended to make gameplay more team-based, he could add mechanics which manipulates players to play more actively brtween... But he preferred more irrational decision to balance eveything , so it would be easier for us to throw our beloved mains into garbage can. There actually more issues than aforementioned, like possibility for big exe to spam his abilities and less unique maps, but eith or without them gameplay is less fun.
I Love Cream but increase the heals/self h, when against big exe sonic as players would have to sit one out or stall for 40s before they are two tap. which why when I'm exe I often dont Prioritize Cream knowing she barely holds any weight to the team as a healer.
Ngl the fact people are way to good like, survive with a higher presentige and then exe they decemate everyone, i honestly think there could be a ranking system, where they rank people with your skill level or give the better people harder versions of exe or nerf just them
As a Cream main, i think its fair to give her 1 passive and 3 abilities so she can be a solo and a teamwork, also buffing her heals to 35 is much better than 25, due to it being SO bad, i know its a pain for small exes, but we need to buff her too because big exes do 1 hit and they are cooked if Cream only healed them once, im honestly disappointed in the games fanbase.
Im taking notes my pal thanks for the suggestions 😎👍(lol) FINALLY some is speaking my language like nerf both exe lunges it's way to hard to dodge like 1.0 and 1.1 exe is fair to juke but 1.2 it's just way to hard to juke for both of them
why does everyone keep saying it’s public aphla? I know,you know,we know but it doesn’t excuse the blatant unbalance of the game right now outlaik has to fix some stuff before releasing the 1.2 update to the game like the balance definitely,I don’t play this game anymore but hopefully it becomes actually balanced and fun to play
I personally have issues with TD's design as a whole,a survival game which is centered about being able to fight back in a way should not be this reliant on juking,the character abilities themselves should be sufficient enough to win not something that can be easily face tanked.
Im gonna be honest, the points you make are very valid, it is nice big exe is alot more balanced now, grab is still a problem, i get why it has lunge now, it was way too hard to hit and at that point why would you use it over attack if its gonna miss, the damage buff was NOT needed, grab is meant to punish lone survivors yet it can down a survivor in 2 seconds flat, and if your team is just a bit too far away your dead, i feel like the grab lunge could stay becausr again, its a lone survivor punish, but the pummel damage needs to be nerfed and the blood drain needs a bit of a nerf, and i say that as a big exe main, im very dissapointed with the exe's this update, big was super close to being balanced and small exe was made even more braindead, i used to main small exe when he actually required some skill, but i feel like 1.2's full release wont be too bad, maybe im coping tho
The sally buff kinda sucks, sally is just wayy too good and cream just gets dunked on, like 25 sec to 20 sec cd shield?? And the emp is almost a buffed version of roll
well if knuckles are an goat they can block lunge for you or you could just dodge it same with SpinDash you know they have a little more control knuckles can just also block it
My boy OutLaik just making the game more exe sided almost every update. Heck, even 1.1 LUNGE more balanced than this bru, I like the concept of two exes but at least make them balanced and fair to go against. And for the survivors.. Eggman: NOT ONE OF MY MAINS GETTING GUTTED! WHAT WAS EVEN THE POINT! I found this game when the 1.1 Halloween update dropped and I loved playing eggman. We was so fun to get solo escapes with. This man went from S tier to F tier bro. He wasn’t even picked much unless it was an eggman main, or a new player. Even then, he was still counter able in 1.1! This was just an unnecessary nerf. OutLaik as usual burning the main dish. Cream: I never have played cream much to begin with. The only real time she can be like an actual threat, is when the exe isn’t actively chasing here, therefore letting her heal. Other than that even SMALL EXE can counter her heal. ESPECIALLY if it’s an actual decent small exe. Honestly just shorten the cooldown, or give her more ways of defending herself other than just a speed boost and small hit box. Big Exe: Grab was like so balanced in 1.1. It could perfectly down a survivor on its own no problem. All you had to do was try to grab the survivors away from the team. It could also perfectly kill alone survivors if not saved in time. Now if you get grabbed far away from your team, you’re cooked. Was no reason to make the ability do 20 damage. And giving it a lunge is overkill dude. Everyone knows a lot of big exes like to do the standing still strategy. Just make grab challenging to land. That’s what made it rewarding to hit. Now it’s just a move that barely takes any kind of real time in to hit. Small Exe: NERF. THE. ATTACK. LINGER. And nerf the how long he can hold his lunge. Small exe has decreased cooldown on his attacks in return for less damage. But with the stupid attack linger and lunge, you can down a METAL in less then 2 seconds bro. The most broken character in the game. His speed doesn’t make it any better. Knuckles: I still like him. Honestly just give him like a buff or something so he’s not as outshined by Amy and metal. I don’t really know. I really love this game but if the balancing continues to be exe buffs and survivor nerfs, then I don’t know if this game is gonna be very fun to play anymore. Also if you read all of this you’re very patient :)
Buffs to Knuckles could be: 1) Give him a Lingering Hitbox on his Punch. Either that or a small lunge. 2) Rework Block a bit. Rather than it working if EXE **LANDS** an attack on you, make it so it works if EXE collides with you while his Attacking Animation is playing. That way it's more consistent. Everything else about Knuckles is fine, these are just to make him more reliable and consistent. And I agree with your other points, too.
@@Vortxnity07 These are some good ideas. I mean his punch already kinda has a little linger. But compared to a character like Amy it’s not very noticeable.
Another thing I wish they added back was Sally’s roll, I don’t really like the EMP all that much because to even hit it you gotta go CLOSE the exe or minion only for them to be slowed down. You do get a speed boost but to me it’s not really that long and I’m pretty sure you could just use the dash or spin dash to catch back up quickly, the worse part is if you miss your basically screwed because now your right next to the thing trying to kill you. Not only that but you can be hit while doing the EMP so even if you do hit it you’re one step closer to dying all for him to be slowed down? You can use your shield to make sure you don’t get hit but that just feels like a waste of a shield. It can be useful to help teammates by slowing him down but it’s not even for that long anyway ( In my opinion ofc ) and again if you miss then it’s basically just a A for effort. It can also be good if you have to solo but honestly that roll has saved me way more them the EMP ever did ( I was a sally main while roll was still in game ) and yes, you can just play the 1.0 version bc the roll is still in that one but why would anyone wanna play 1.0? I just think the EMP is not that great, but then again it’s just my opinion and if you like it then that’s fine also.
@@SilKasugi probably because cream was hard to get back in the day. I mean he could just make it like rouges scrapped glide from the 1.1 prototype a year ago.
@@thegarfieldguy9804 True but the 2 seconds was kinda detrimental. He finally got a buff with his shock which seemed to be a step in the right direction. Then all that came crashing down when turrets came….
Hello people in the future! Let’s see if these problems were fixed in the update!!!!
-Eggman. Eggman is just….no.
-Cream is pretty useful now.
-Rouges evasion got replaced with remote trap. Aswell as other characters got replaced abilities.
-Knuckles got insane cooldown reduces. That should make up for his easily baitable abilities.
-EXES linger is still annoying. Not as annoying. But still annoying.
-Metals grapple problem got fixed.
Overall, most problems were fixed. Eggman is just a big no no still. Imo he was made worser. He has potential but he is kinda weak. And the EXES are still shredding through everything. Small EXE I have seen a change in. But Big EXE, now named Kolososs now, can still be a powerhouse. Other than that, most things got fixed!
YES
HEY YOU USE THE MUSIC IN THE INTRO
I USED THAT WHILE PLAYING SONIC.EXE THE DISASTER 2D ANDROID >:(
DONT buff rouge, shes actually INSANELY overpowered AGAINST BIG EXE BECAUSE HIS INDICATOR LASTS SO SHORT, rouge mains with a bit of skill can TIME PERFECTLY HOW LONG BIG SONICS INDICATOR LASTS, AND THEY NEVER RUN OUT OF EVASION ITS SO ANNOYING, THEY ALWAYS END UP HAVING 0 DT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Not sure where to put this, but a neat-ish idea for an eggamn buff. you can use the shock WHILE being grabbed. Of course, It would be fairly op for when it first comes out, but I think it would bring him to a perfect spot. (There could be a downside where you take damage from using the shock in a dangerous scenario(Like a longer cooldown, or taking 25 Dmg outright (will not kill you)))
Ihope next restore tickle not swapping in his moves shadow and his make variant to boost if he jump and do boost will he go up and if he boost will be regular boost and knuckles should be buff him like gilde and climb and some mechanics
i’d like to point out some things mentioned in the video
outlaik has said in a recent stream that cream is designed to be bad, and that he doesn’t intend on giving cream her glide back anytime soon
in the same stream, outlaik said he added the lunge to grab so people would actually use grab, because back then nobody really used it
@@le_sweetcandypop oh :p well if that’s the case, can he atleast nerf exes lunge? Because like it’s impossible to dodge due to its long linger
@@theshutuperedited my comment like 3 times already and when i refreshed i found out you replied lmaooo
he said nothing about the lunge, but from what i know it’s simply ping, outlaik can’t really do anything about it
@@le_sweetcandypopeven with perfect ping, lunge still manages to have the worst linger I’ve ever seen…also thanks for telling me about what outlaik said in his stream :p
@@theshutuperoutlaik said in one of his streams that he gave small Exe linger because he wanted to make the game easier for the exes and that he thinks it’s a bit unfair for just the survivors to have linger on their attacks
@@mrmeseecakes4284that's dumb tbh,classic exe is already was good balanced,but no,lets make him broken
Don't forget Cream is purposefully made bad so that "you have to rely on your team and your team should protect the healer"
"rely on your team"
cool excuse bru
I mean it's not an excuse but okay
@@EnOerAslaP123
Cream: *heals teammate*
Exe: *kills healed teammate in one hit*
Cream: D:
@@TheKris.
Either that or the exe targets cream until she's downed or hit just for one heal
I don't Think cream should have a stun. But at least some offense ability, something Else that she could use that Gives her a small advantage,cuz the moment where Speed boost ends, you're done for lmo
1:37 totally balanced and not rigged frfr🧢
As a small exe main, I certainly say that his lunge should be nerfed HEAVILY. ( same with big exes grab because people don’t have a chance )
Eggman deserves egg justice
Damn Right,I Quitted 1.2 Because of His Nerf
@@E.G.G.M.A.N69 like bro 2 seconds was just crazy like bro ain't even as crazy as metal yet for some stupid reason they gave him 2 seconds
OutLaik said that the game should be easy for the EXE, not for the survivors, that's why it's so unfair. I get that the survivors shouldn't be too OP since there can be a lot of them and can easily overpower the EXE, but right now, the game is heavily focused on the EXEs to make them even harder to fight with (which, I guess, should be a challenge for the survivors, since it should be hard for them, not the EXE), but the EXE can literally slaughter the whole team of 6, for example, within a minute or two, which is extremely frustrating. They should make both teams at least a LITTLE more balanced, because right now, the game is all about luck and hope that you have a decent enough team which can give somebody time to at least win a solo run. The bugs and other things should definitely get fixed, I agree on that.
@@izaax2nd True that. I get that outlaik wanted to help the EXES, but I shouldn’t even be able to murder everyone under 2 minutes. Which is annoying and makes me not wanna play EXE cause it gets boring. Though I feel like outlaik did it to make EXE not much of a struggle to play with, but that linger is way too powerful.
bad game design in my opinion, less wins = less people want to play the game due to amount of times they lose
@@TheKris. True. It needs to be balanced on both teams. Even for a bloodthirsty demon. And since it's a literal game, it should take a good amount of skills on both sides, not yawn on one side and sweat on the other.
Whenever I’m exe. I always win. The only times I lose is when I’m just completely zoned out.
@izaax2nd and this design choice actively downplays the supposed survivors who are literally light speed demons with superhuman strength,this is why I prefer the 2D version despite having it's own fair share of drama and terrible game design,it feels like a sonic.exe game not a horror game with characters wearing sonic skins.
Shadows boost problem got me killed in a solo. I got grabbed from 2 - 4 meters away. LIKE HOW BRO
and everyone begs to cream for heal. im sorry but if they are not buffing heal we need her glide back
A complaint I have is that Hide and Seek Act 1 is like the most broken map in this game. Here’s a few examples of stuff I’ve seen/have issues with:
-Exe gets pushed through a wall, rendering him stuck until the round ended
-Exe gets stuck in a rock after grabbing Metal while Metal had activated Push at the same time
-Metal being revived by me and immediately being thrown off the map because he was revived while being near a invisible wall(he was grabbed by Exe)
-Some of the walls near springs aren’t smooth, causing people to get stuck. A player shouldn’t be able to get stuck in a wall, that’s bad map design, especially when the walls that are like that are in tight, small spots that make it easier to get hit by Exe
-The monochrome effect when you get picked up is BAD on this map. You cannot see anything 3 feet in front of you, I can see better in … and that maps whole thing is being dark.
Bonus Issue I have with maps:
-In Hide and Seek Act 2, Metal Sonic and Exe were both thrown off the map when you guessed it, the both used Grab + Push at the same time.
-Kind and Fair has an issue where characters like Amy, Shadow, Eggman and Tails can just camp somewhere while everyone else can go fuck themselves apparently. Too many people do this and it ruins the map for me honestly.
-Hill is too big and needs less invisible wall areas.
The hasa1 springs have always been buggy with the terrain
Last outflakes stream but its 2 words: fuck cream.
PLEASE BRING BACK CREAM'S GLIDE I BEG YOU OUTLAIK!!!
he WONT give cream's glide back...
they def need to buff eggy, but i think for cream the glide is off the table, bc from what I’ve heard outlaik doesn’t want to repeat abilities
New exe 2 looks like he used his hand as a toothbrush😭
Tbh, I just hope they would buff eggman, I remember when he was good, and even if eggman can be annoying at times, he’s the easiest to kill
Sonic.exes 2 grab is LITTERY an instakill if your slightly far away from your teammates and he grabs you, it's not fair
Big Exe is literally described as "Punishing those alone." It's your fault if you're caught lacking alone agaisnt Big Exe.
@@magicaniI just call big sonic modern exe and the smaller classic exe, makes things way easier
@@dudoiio I'm just using what they're called as more often, and big exe and small exe is faster and easier to type so
@@magicaniits also easy to get someone out of a grab, tails, metal, shadow and sally r good against a grab because of stuns, shadows boost and sally being able to sheild someone preventing a grab or stopping exe from stabbing someone. with good timing u can also stun right after he grabs u
@@randomperson-real Literally quite rare for someone to be far enough from everyone else to die from the grab (Unless they were low before.)
Small exe: Spam
Big exe: Grab.
Thankful the grab issue was fixed, the lunge doesn’t go as far.
tbh grab needs to show everyone where they are not just when they need reviving because its legit just a first life gone or atleast make it so you can brake out
I agree. Small exe lunge is big problem, I dodge then he comes back around and hits me anyways. 2, eggmans shock (in my opinion) cooldown should be lowered to 25 seconds. And mabe the hight of the jetpack boot increased. Also metals grapple is actually accurate for me
Knuckles: *gets glide ability*
Everyone after: *doesn’t even care*
And Cream- well yeah she’s almost useless. No point in the speedboost if Exe can just spindash and catch up, or the exe2 charge attack
(It’s only good when I use it-)
I Hate The Way Nerfed Eggman,Like 2 Second Stun... they Even Removed Schock Boost When Saving Someone From The Danger
Ideas- cream glide to be back but in another way, if she would jump from very tall building her glide would activate but its not like she can activate her glide every time she jumps her glide would have also 40/20 cooldown and only activates when she jumos from tall height , or mix her glide with speed boost meaning her ability to glide would be back but speed boost removed but mixed with her glide so if she would activate her glide she would glide faster but go down faster ,sonic exe nerf- make the cooldown long just like sonic exe 2, for sonic exe 2 they should make the grab damage low but fast , shadow-erm idk
Getting good at exe used to actually be a rewarding experience
@@oompaloompagamerXD fr. Now I just have to rely on linger to win. Which is not even challenging in the slightest.
Never would I ever think I would see a disventure camp fan who's also plays sonic.exe the disaster.. Well I here for it
I 100% agree wuth eggman and cream being useless. I used to main the two of them a lot more on previous versions. Now i barely use eggman, i can't see why outlaik thiught the shock nerf was needed
2:00 hell yeah outlaik,that so genius giving big exe a lunges for grab,FOR DUMB GRAB THAT COULD ALREADY CAUGHT YOU EVEN IF YOU ALREADY WAS IN OTHER SIDE OF MAP
like cmon,grab was already broken,now it have lunges
why you would even give lunges to big exe?are you have skill issue or wut?
aside from that many people complain about the hitboxes and guess what outlaik already tried to fix them its just the ping,the worse it it the worse your hitbox will be and vice versa
im pretty sure that hitboxes refresh overtime to sync with your character but because of the ping it lags and can freeze in one place so it fails to sync in time
either that or roblox servers suck
@@idontknowwhattotype-4407hitboxes suck due to roblox. What makes it bad is the lunge + roblox registering hitboxes how they want to.
@@idontknowwhattotype-4407 both is sucks
1:43
It's about time someone spoke up about small exe's hitbox, it needs to be nerfed.
They should low-key make shadow stun a little bit longer
I agree cream heals is useless because of lunge and Eggman shock lasted only2 but to fix it there are three ways 1.they make eggamn’s shock last 3 second or they fix the jetpack 2.they buff cream’s healing ability to be at lest 30or35 and they return her glide back but different then tails 3.nerf the exes to make fair for the survival
Crazy how eggman once used to be great now hes the worst,i still main eggman but he is almost unplayable at this point
2 sec stun for a 27 CD is not that rewarding but better than nothing, but 3 secs was perfect
And Eggman, 😭 I can't say much he deserves justice!
Eso es cierto..eggman era mi personaje favorito en este juego y en otras versiones. Pero ahora se convirtio en un personaje muy inutil. Las veces que lo uso no duro ningun segundo sin recibir daño del Exe.espero que lo arreglen porfavor...
Im.agree what do you say about eggman shock make him so uselless an the lunge can stupidily hard to Dodge sometimes
That happened when I’m play as eggman well his skills especially shocking just use for 2 sec WTH and jetpack too. justice for eggman
0:57 me in games using eggman: AHHA! I STUNNED EXE! time to ru- *gets grabbed*
eggman's old shock stunned exe like 5-10 seconds and it was kinda busted ngl.
As an eggman Main I heavily agree
Without teammates near me I’m just a target for exe when I use up my shock, that nerf wasn’t necessary at all!
But even with this nerf I can get some wins just barely…
If I was to change one thing about eggman which would be a plus and a negative id change how the shock works, here me out
I feel like shock could work like Sallys Sheild, when hit by exe it’s gone but when a minion does it takes away durability, so here’s my suggestion…
Whenever eggman has his shock on and a minion is hit by it it’s still there but the shock will be weakened a bit, it would take 3 minions to get rid of the shock and if the exe gets stunned it would be used completely, the positives of this idea is that you will be able to stun many other exes to make it easier for you and others to escape, the negatives however would be if minions were to take the shock for the exe the shock would be gone or to weak to properly stun the exe making very risky but very rewarding to hit exe with the stun
If you’ll have better ideas feel free to tell me in the replies below
@@flamanimation9048 I agree. It’s bad enough when hammer throw came back people started playing characters less. Especially eggman. That nerf wasn’t even necessary and now he’s barely playable. Also nice suggestion!!!
@@theshutuper well, atleast it’s easier for me to get eggman now XD
But thank you for the feedback, I have other suggestions to make the game more fun but I won’t go into details, they’re mostly about game mechanics and changes to characters and how they would work
also you missed one metal,s charge can be outran by exes with higher or same ping as you as they either move too fast or lag right outside the grab,s reach aka metal does not go any faster during the rocket boost
I feel like Cream's speed boost could be replaced with Glide OR,with maybe an abillity to defend herself.
Tbh her speed boost is kinda her main abillity i don't think it should get replaced i think she needs a 3rd abillity man
Ok,here it comes
-I'd nerf Exe2's damage to deal 50 dmg instead of 65,now while that doesnt change much,it makes cream a slightly better counter for exe2.
-Knuckles is a character that really needs a buff but i dont see anyone talking about it,Block depending on the exe can be really useless(Just dont attack him too early),Punch as well,its so slow in comparision with Amy's hammer attack that it can be predictable sometimes,to fix that two things could be done, 1-Give Knuckles a Lunge when hes going to punch,2-Could be a third ability for him,i think his Spin attack from Nb and Nbr should be his 3rd ability,it would work like pre-rework Shadow's Dash
exe 2 is genuelly built to be bullied so no theres 11 offense moves in the game w his big hitbox and slow movement spee hes very easy to loop and get thrown off ledges nerfing him would make him unplayable (he already is close to unplayable in the current version)
knuckles is very good just relies on skill his cooldonwns are low if u hit ur moves ur never gonna get hit and also hammer attack and punch have the same speed (w hammer attack having a larger hitbox)
Outlaik said he’s not going to buff knuckles as he has always been a well rounded character. I do agree he might need a buff later on because other characters keep getting buffed.
I'd say the best buff you can give Knuckles is make it so the block works if he collides with EXE while EXE is doing his attack animation, not if EXE directly hits him. That way it's a lot more consistent, since a lot of the time block doesn't work simply because EXE straight up missed the attack on Knuckles even though EXE phased through him, and now Knuckles is defenseless.
Hopefully the new eggman ability that will replace shock will bring him back to glory
They should add a potato mode or just an option to lower graphics. My MS keeps going crazy as hell.
honestly I really like this update, but there are just so many flaws that ruin the experience for me, especially grab, like have you seen how fast the blood drain is for that thing
Let’s see if these problems were fixed in the update!
Cream is now MUCH better! Overheal can basically negate grab, it has a shorter cooldown than heal, and it can easily allow survivors that got revived to still fight the exe and help the team.
Eggman’s turrets are good when used right, and his jetpack is amazing now. I just wish he still had shock with his kit, but Outlaik says he’ll never add it back 😔
As for lunge, I’m not sure if it got nerfed, but the hitboxes seem much bigger now. I’ve jumped over exes, and survivors have jumped over me when I’m exe, but they still get hit. This has sorta happened before the full release, but I feel like it happens even more now. And sadly linger still exists
Sooo… they made cream good again!!!! They made eggman worse though….
Outlaik failed at something that even 1.1 did better, Balancing.
fr
Very true, I have more fun in 1.1 then the current 1.2 rn.
@@MestreDoClarinet even 1.0 is better than 1.2
@@whoisthisrandomguy fr fr, as a 1.0 sonic player, i can agree that 1.0 sonic (EVEN THOUGH HE DONT EVEN GOT A LUNGE) is fire
@@whoisthisrandomguy1.0 was ALWAYS the best version, So yeah no version can even try to fight
I really hope the 1.2 prototype comes back because there it felt more fair and less jittery when exe hits you, and exe and survivors wasn’t completely op not to mention how they nerfed amy so hard in this update, hammer throw is garbage and hammer attack is just lacking it’s charm in all honesty, plus it’s hitbox was significant changed which makes it way harder to actually hit exe, and thats if you’re lucky bc most exes bait you into it and spam lunge to kill you. I swear these exes are so garbage in their own scenarios
The removal of tackle was the most foul thing in this update I don’t care what you guys say especially since homing attack is trash
As a shadow main I automatically went back to the old td just because of the tackle removal 😭 I have no idea how to use homing attack
@@Thescrawnyrottenshrimp I've played a fair amount of 1.2 Shadow and here's the most useful scenarios I've found for Homing Attack! :D
1) Use it kind of like a block. If you know EXE will lunge at you, quickly hit it to counter him. If you do it right it never fails.
2) Simply combo it with Boost. (Boost > Homing Attack). I'd recommend you do this if:
a) You're far from your teammates and need to buy some time to reach them, or
b) You can knock EXE off a cliff with Homing Attack. Do note it's sometimes better to save Homing Attack or Boost for things such as grabs!
3) Use it to juke the EXE. Fall off of a high place, and when EXE falls after you, use the Homing Attack to boost yourself back onto the high place and gain distance. This is especially good in maps like "...", You Can't Run or sometimes You Can't Run 2.
Those are the 3 best uses I've found for it. It's a decent ability, just a bit gimmicky.
@@Thescrawnyrottenshrimp wait for a green target on the exe. once that appears you press the jump button to fling yourself at him. If you hit, thats some knockback to the exe. If not, you still gained some distance on him
@@eyeseverywhere6091Haha... R.I.P this info, it got removed
@@omareilewislol yeah, at least it can also be used as a mobility
Eggman was fine beforehand. He didn’t need the nerf imo. Before he was great at defending himself considering the fair stun time and the area of effect when shock is activated. But now he’s more just a stun chain starter.
(Oh and don’t get me started with his stun time when exe has shortened stun times cuz of the stun chain nerf RAAAAH)
I think they should at least make the Stun Shortening effect not apply to him. (it's a 2 second stun ffs) that way he's useful for starting stun chains or something. Right now the only use he has is zoning EXE away from teammates. Even then, the 30 second cooldown is, yikes..
@@Vortxnity07 fr, the stun is already short enough alone. With the stun shortening its comparable to the person player exe’s finger slipping. They legit start moving again right after the stun.
People need to remember that 1.2 is still needing some tweaks and that this isnt the final version of the update
Thats exactly why its public dummy, devs need feedback in order to fix things
All metal sonic's abilitys make him in trouble its almost impossible for him to win if he is the last one alive here my concept if metal sonic as no one to protect
When metal sonic will be the last one standing he will get a option to activate his solo mod since he as no one to protect
Push repliced by dash:metal sonic will be able to dash (cooldown 26 sec)like old shadow but if he dash on a exe the exe will get pushed and metal sonic continuing his dash
Grapple replaced by
badniks:metal sonic will be able to call one badniks to help him (cooldown 23 sec)every badniks as différents abiltys
Motobug:claw hit push exes a little bit (cooldown 15 sec)
Bettle:transport metal sonic away metal sonic will able to go where ever he want but the energy are similar to tails but smaller
Crab:a very slow badnik that can stun 1 sec a exe(cooldown 20sec)
Exmes can destroy them but they can be useful for metal sonic these badniks can be played by AI or players in the lobby if they are boring
If their gonna make eggman this weak now, they should change the shock into a more High risk but high rewards treatment
For shadow we already know his airboost needs s.
Cream's sprint lunge is decently good but if there's one thing i want them to have is to make the lunge act like shadow's tackle but cost her to cancell out the sprint although her cd is cut down by half that way she isn't just even more useless
NO WAY ANOTHER SMART PERSON REALISING TD HAS SHIT BALANCE. the balance was always bad but metal now somewhat covers up for it instead of fixing the issues he just put metal to hide the flaws
man, as an eggman, shadow and metal main.. i suffer in silence + they also could help tails mobile aim, maybe make the circle a lil more faded? idk, something like in the 1.1
1:45 they added linger to knuckles punch and exes lunge which means the hitbox lasts a bit longer to get a hit easier
Also in the new update,they removed eggmans Electric attack with some turret that slows down the EXE,which....seems useless because you can lunge and charge (Small Exe and Kolossos)
Cream is MID
@@ThatBlueSol imo, I think cream is pretty good now. When you think about it, creams overheal is basically just like shield share. They both get countered in the same way, they both work as a shield in the same way, and they are both temporal. It’s your opinion though so you don’t have to agree. But the opinion on eggman? I agree 100% PERCENT. He is just as useless as amy without her hammer…
@@theshutuper creams "heal shield" isnt that usefull,but with sallys shield it can work,but i dont see how usefull it can work that much,its only there for like 5 seconds and the Large Exe can do large amounts of Damage too one single player,so.... (what i meant is that if you use both shields i think it can work.)
but yeah,i guess it works with the other exe.
@@theshutuper another thing about the overheal is that it doesnt work like defense since i get hit with overheal and the hit goes through the overheal to my normal HP.
im agreeing with eggman, bro used to have a shock that gave him a speed boost as well if he landed it but now even the jetpack is more useful than it
0:27 reworked heal tbh not gonna help cream,no one teammate would survive 90 seconds for an advantage of taking an extra hit from exe(especially if its exe2 with broken grab💀🙏)
probably glide or exe lunge nerf because her heal being her main ability is insanely counterable :p
@@theshutuper both would be good
You could alternatively use the ability Speedboost while healing a teammate and have the i-frames allow you to dodge the Exe’s lunge/grab.
@@theshutuperI think cream with a 30 seconds cool Down heal with 25 is better but not 65 for 90 seconds cools down the big exe can deal 60 damage wasting all that healing it would make cream mains become more mad cuz they have to wait a whole 90 seconds
@@theshutuper in my opinion she just needs heal buff, maybe having 2 heal abilities, or 2 charges to heal 2 people at once or same person twice to guarantee them to survive one more hit, or just simply reduce cooldown so she can heal more, especially when there's a lot of people on one team
Also Amy's hammer bounce + low fps = failure, like, I used it and bounced off a bridge in KAF and bounced the same height as I would if I jumped
Knuckles punch.. Why does small exe have long ahh linger, and big exe and can deal massive damage and have grab lunge.. but then knuckles gets punished because he was 1 centimeter to far from exe. Knuckles punch should have linger to it.
@@ImWatchingYouFreak I agree! Even though I don’t use knuckles and I main amy, ever since hammer throw came back I feel like knuckles got outclassed by amy due to her having more options. Knuckles punch needs a buff.
Hear me out
Friday the 13th stun mechanic for his block and/or punch.
Instead of 65 hp i think they should let cream run / walk while shes healing or give her the twirl stun like in dimensional coalescense and give her a glide, cream these days lowkey are not good but kinda
You know that you can boost while she is healing
@@luisgurumendy5561I'm pretty sure that's a bug and that it shouldn't happen.
@@minealexhp8507was a bug, but my man outlaik liked it
@@luisgurumendy5561 Oh I see.
@@luisgurumendy5561 Cream became sans lol.
And my most pain I accidentally shot metal I thought he was Sonic.exe
As an Eggman main he is fun to just ambush the EXE with and it works as a sort of counter
@@Ultimafire1258 It’s nice to see people still playing eggman despite the mess he is in currently. You’re a warrior frfr.
Also I feel Big EXE's grab is fine outside of the lunge, it punishes people who dont stick to a group.
im so mad they gave big exe a block, aswell as it having less cooldown then most stuns, nerf it for electric attack (shock and arm cannon) to stun it, and block only for melee (punch, hammer attack, hammer throw)
Something I just remembered, he has one odd advantage. Due to his large hitbox he doesnt have to jump into the ending ring, he can walk into it. Meaning if you used your jump and its on CD you can still exit.
I have a lot of thoughts on this apparently. I hate how Creams heal is only 25, especially against Big EXE. They invalidate Creams existence by existing. Small EXE for all his bullshit still respects with health. One heal gives someone another hit against Small EXE and if you want to give someone another hit you have to heal them twice. It allows for the heals to be spread more naturally.
Now with the new 1,2 released cream’s heal actually works a bit now. You don’t have to heal twice just to make someone not vulnerable to big and small EXE. I haven’t actually played as eggman in 1.2 yet but I will edit this when I play as him.
if you planned to play as egg in current state,then prepare to pray every rng gods,cuz its only the way to play as him right now
Alr I played as him and I have to admit, he’s better than his older version. Not counting 1.0 and 1.1 because those were when eggman was actually good. The turret works better than the shock since you can hide for most of the rounds compared to being at risk in normal EXE TD rounds
Some of these issuees getting fixed i think but yeah i agree mostly. Outlaik also gets glazed just because he's a solo dev too. i like outlaik a lot and respect him a lot too, but like....jus cuz ur a solo dev doesnt mean you can put minimum effort
Hmmmm "When I play as Small EXE, I shouldn't not be able to kill everyone under 2 minutes"... That's what i do with Koloss. Kill everyone in 2 minutes(No grabbing).
the game is called "public alpha" for a reason
My biggest problem with this game right now is that it's useless skills, lacking new characters and maps, and it's unbalanced and certain characters
Cream was okay in 1.0, but I still don't understand why glide was removed, But the exe was buffed to the point where the risk of 50 heals in 90 seconds is completely stupid
Eggman was indeed a favorite character of the people and he was very good... In 1.0, from 1.1 onwards they started to mess too much with his shock and jetpack and they just ruined it to the point where it is... Today
Tails and Amy are having abusive cooldowns, Glide with 30 seconds? 20 from Hammer Throw but 28 and 31 from Hammer Bounce and Hammer Attack?
Metal Sonic's grapple is poorly made, Shadow is difficult to use but he's at least decent, unlike Tackle Shadow or Block Shadow which usually... A knuckles, amy or an Eggman easily replaces him.
Hill map is a mess to navigate, they removed many parts that helped you escape and added MANY areas with invisible walls, in addition to removing the bridge.
Rouge is okay, she's meant to be difficult, crying about her is a skill issue, but yes, she needs some measly buffs. Knuckles is generic and boring to use, he's simply a metal Sonic, an Amy worse and without any charismatic skill
I find some songs really boring, like Escape from the Test Zone and Has1, And how many characters have their kits changed or nerfed for no reason
Removal of passive perks, such as Hand of Kindness, Nerves of Stell or Rouge's old passive, remove Glide from Cream,Add EMP to Sally but remove her roll???? Why???? Nerf the skills by decreasing range, duration, hit distance, but increasing the cooldown without adding a third skill (Tails, Eggman, Knuckles, Cream, Shadow, Sally because Give Shield doesn't count as a thrid skill)
And since the game is taking a long time to add new things, since 1.0 the game doesn't seem to progress much, I consider 1.1 the worst update so far because it's simply the most bruh thing possible.
At least in the current update 1.2, Metal Sonic and Base came, let's hope this doesn't become something rare and Outlaik manages to make the game evolve more than it already is.
And no, it's not a hate letter to Outlaik or saying that his project is bad, I know it's hard to work alone on a big project, but still, there's always room for improvement. And I honestly love this game, despite the problems of this current version, I hope, pray that Outlaik reads the reviews and comes back with things removed from the past
@@nescalzinho I agree with everything you said. Amy and tails should’nt have abusive cooldowns. Maps are hard to navigate. Boring music. Lunge, Removal of good stuff. Characters being straight up useless, It’s just a hot mess smh.
@@theshutuper The only thing I disagree with that you mentioned in the video was the 65 HP to 90 and Cooldawn, literally, a high cooldawn like that would only make Cream even worse.
From the calculations I had made, the idea or closest to it would be 40 HP for 36 cooldawn
Brute exe: 100 - 65 = 35 + 40 = 75 - 65 = 10
Classic Exe: 100 - 45 = 55 - 45 = 10 + 40 = 50 - 45 = 5
The 36 cooldawn is due to the fact that Cream already takes 4 seconds to finish healing her, so, 36 + 4, 40, equal to what she provides, it cannot give an extremely high cooldawn because otherwise the usefulness disappears
And yes, I agree that exes deserve a Nerf, I liked the ideas but it doesn't execute, grab Lunge wouldn't be problematic if it activated the damage tracker and the damage and bleed itself wasn't very strong, classic exe I like it like that, at most I would put a slightly smaller range, a greater consequence for using the lunge, and increase the for its damage
The current balance problem is not exactly that the exes are too strong, but rather that they are too strong but the survivors are too weak, as I mentioned above. Abusive cooldown, predictable skills, generic skill sets, useless supports, etc., etc., meanwhile an exe grabs you by the neck and sucks your life out of a straw as if they were drinking a milkshake
@@nescalzinhoI agree! And thank you for the calculations for the cream suggestion cause I felt like I was making a mistake. They really need to buff the survivors.
What is hand of kindness?
TZ is my favorite map but i agree its escape theme sucks
i dont think cream needs glide back because welp, thatd make tails not unique, I think as a 3rd ability, she should get "Dodge" She does the speedboost dash like 4 times left and right, giving her s for 5-7 seconds, if sonic tries hitting cream during this he'l be slowed down slightly, this is just to make cream a bit stronger against sonic, this also can just replace heal when cream enters a solo
also, dont buff rouge, shes insanely op against big sonic please AAA
Call the ability "Ankle breaker"
it's literally an alpha, we all might experience Bug or Lag issues let's wait until the full Realese.
and big exe deals more Damage and It has a lunge on the Grab for a Small buff on him because Mobile Users has a Hard time Grabbing like in 1.0.
how ironic,to rewatch that video after drop of full version of 1.2 and be way more dissapointed in nerf on one character,that was mine(and not only me mained him)main...
istg,bring back da shocker(atleast as a second ability),the turrets wont do a [bruh] to exes and minions,they can literally just do a *_boop_* and turrets ded .-.
if you wanted see eggman as support,then why you wou'ldnt give turrets in a first place???
that's dumb decision to make eggman stunner since td older than 1.0 for sure and then in full release do a full castration...
now i dont want touch eggman even with an 100 km stick -_-
At least Cream has something unique to her that no one else can do. Eggman on the other hand, just doesn't.
True. But creams heal ability is generally weak due to everyone being able to die under 2 minutes due to exes linger. Which is pretty disappointing for cream because heal is the only ability in the game that restores HP and is a game changer. Unfortunately, heal is heavily countered :CCCCCC
@@theshutuper Yeah, unless we are in a large team and little Sonic is chosen.
And I feel like grapple should be slightly inaccurate so that way it doesn't over shadow Tails.
Outlaik noticed how suspiciously moderately balanced Eggman was looking and decided to he had to ruin it.
But in all seriousness, the only characters worth playing anymore are;
..oh right, theres hardly any! Let me rank them from worst to best any why, because nobody asked and I have the power to type whatever I want.
- Eggman. He's not necessarily the worst on his own, but given how his fall from grace (which is a tragedy and should be documented on), he looks miserable.
- Shadow. Again, he used to be cool. A good support. Now? Now he's more useless than Cream, because once you've used both your short ass abilities, you're cooked.
- Cream, of course. Her speed boost is so easily counter-able, and heal does next to nothing if your teammates aren't lucky as hell and have half a braincell.
- Tails. If you have good aim and the map is suited to you, he's alright. The moment you land from glide though, its over, unless you're just built like that. (and I mean *really* built like that)
- Amy. Hear me out, I was going to put Sally here but, for reasons I didn't. Amy seems amazing on paper, 3 abilities, all with different uses- but 1. Her hammer attack is so janky, 2. hammer bounce is good on certain maps, but easily counter-able on others, plus it only buys you like 5 seconds thanks to- you guessed it, charge/spindash. And 3, hammer throw is good and all, until you realise you're going to be without a hammer for a damn long time unless your team is useful enough to help you get it back, because every moment you go for it exe will just pounce.
- Sally. Without shield, she's kinda mid, however I find if you use her shield and EMP strategically, the cooldowns are alright, cuz' once one runs out the other is soon to regen.
- Rouge. This might sound like some stupid opinion, but what more could you want from a character? You can hide when your team is doing f* all, you can blind exe which goes in par with your ability to hide, you can place sensors which helps you not run into the exe when you're evading him, plus it helps your team too. And if that wasn't good enough, you get what is essentially an attack dodge too, with all moderate cooldowns.
- Knuckles. Yes, I am biased. His cooldowns are really short, and although block sucks ass, you can still get it to work in your favour if you're used to Knuckles enough. And even when it does get you hit, the same can be said for a lot of other character's abilities.
And finally, the best character, Metal Sonic. You get a goofy ass hitbox which practically guarantees ATLEAST 70 dt if you have skill, an ability that can throw exe off of literally any ledge you desire, and a grapple that can either act as a start-up for your push, or to drag exe down to the abyss. Also his cooldowns are fair for how messed up his hitbox is and the fact he has 3 hits.
#buffeggman
For Shadow just use the *stuns* when the entire team is on the exe, if you are already hit just use homing attack and use boost to escape
If say sally is the best, if your good at juking and using your EMP you can easily outplay the EXE. Unless its small exe. Hes too fast
@@M3mMMriz3 Yeah, Sally's cooldowns are comparable to Knuckles' cooldowns. If you're good at juking you can easily stall EXE on your own for at least 30 seconds.
And on top of all of that metal has a mobility tool. you can literally use push to run. (which is a good idea if there are no ledges/people around)
Not only that there are tryhards or kolossos only users they can use sonic 1 but they dont use since sonic 1 cant do alot damage but can be used when something called "big team" exists bc of that our team cant counter and most days no one uses the grab kinda good but bad since people will not expect if a grabber is there...
Tbh Eggman did Not deserve that Nerf He Literally my Main Like Bro 2 SECOND FOR A STUN ?? AND THE COOLDOWN ON 28 or 30 IS CRAZY they gotta buff his Shock To 4 second And The Big Exe Need to Nerf his DAMN GRAB LIKE WHY BUFFING HIS GRAB GIVING HIM SMALL LUNGE ON A GRAB 😭
As an Eggmain, I was devastated when Eggy got nerfed...
Also (after getting to Metal's Grapple), not sure if I suck with aiming, but Amy's Hammer Throw is kinda iffy too. I know since it travels an arc, that you have to like... adjust your aim if that makes sense? But I feel like the hammer should just land where your cursor is.
If outlaik intended to make gameplay more team-based, he could add mechanics which manipulates players to play more actively brtween... But he preferred more irrational decision to balance eveything , so it would be easier for us to throw our beloved mains into garbage can. There actually more issues than aforementioned, like possibility for big exe to spam his abilities and less unique maps, but eith or without them gameplay is less fun.
I Love Cream but increase the heals/self h,
when against big exe sonic as players would have to sit one out or stall for 40s before they are two tap.
which why when I'm exe I often dont Prioritize Cream knowing she barely holds any weight to the team as a healer.
They now made eggman Even worst
Ngl the fact people are way to good like, survive with a higher presentige and then exe they decemate everyone, i honestly think there could be a ranking system, where they rank people with your skill level or give the better people harder versions of exe or nerf just them
As a Cream main, i think its fair to give her 1 passive and 3 abilities so she can be a solo and a teamwork, also buffing her heals to 35 is much better than 25, due to it being SO bad, i know its a pain for small exes, but we need to buff her too because big exes do 1 hit and they are cooked if Cream only healed them once, im honestly disappointed in the games fanbase.
you got it wrong!!
Knuckles has the bigger hitbox due to his punch being apart of his hitbox, making him easier to be hit while running.
@@Voidedstarz oopsie
How long was that a thing?
@@JacobandNazir a while actually!
@@Voidedstarz dang
Im taking notes my pal thanks for the suggestions 😎👍(lol) FINALLY some is speaking my language like nerf both exe lunges it's way to hard to dodge like 1.0 and 1.1 exe is fair to juke but 1.2 it's just way to hard to juke for both of them
why does everyone keep saying it’s public aphla? I know,you know,we know but it doesn’t excuse the blatant unbalance of the game right now outlaik has to fix some stuff before releasing the 1.2 update to the game like the balance definitely,I don’t play this game anymore but hopefully it becomes actually balanced and fun to play
crying
2:04 big exe should have that since i can't do a lungeless grab or i always missing
Edit:grab attack should decrease -25 dm
since the big exe doesn't have a lunge on m1 they gave him a lunge on a grab so ye
I personally have issues with TD's design as a whole,a survival game which is centered about being able to fight back in a way should not be this reliant on juking,the character abilities themselves should be sufficient enough to win not something that can be easily face tanked.
Im gonna be honest, the points you make are very valid, it is nice big exe is alot more balanced now, grab is still a problem, i get why it has lunge now, it was way too hard to hit and at that point why would you use it over attack if its gonna miss, the damage buff was NOT needed, grab is meant to punish lone survivors yet it can down a survivor in 2 seconds flat, and if your team is just a bit too far away your dead, i feel like the grab lunge could stay becausr again, its a lone survivor punish, but the pummel damage needs to be nerfed and the blood drain needs a bit of a nerf, and i say that as a big exe main, im very dissapointed with the exe's this update, big was super close to being balanced and small exe was made even more braindead, i used to main small exe when he actually required some skill, but i feel like 1.2's full release wont be too bad, maybe im coping tho
The sally buff kinda sucks, sally is just wayy too good and cream just gets dunked on, like 25 sec to 20 sec cd shield?? And the emp is almost a buffed version of roll
yeah cream is not that useful (she's a little useful in the right hands) also that cooldown on shock is evil
well if knuckles are an goat they can block lunge for you or you could just dodge it same with SpinDash you know they have a little more control knuckles can just also block it
2:48 no s for you
as an shadow main,i curse those s,they sucks as heck
Does boost even have s?
@@lessthanabytepls i dont think boost have s at all
My boy OutLaik just making the game more exe sided almost every update. Heck, even 1.1 LUNGE more balanced than this bru, I like the concept of two exes but at least make them balanced and fair to go against. And for the survivors..
Eggman: NOT ONE OF MY MAINS GETTING GUTTED! WHAT WAS EVEN THE POINT! I found this game when the 1.1 Halloween update dropped and I loved playing eggman. We was so fun to get solo escapes with. This man went from S tier to F tier bro. He wasn’t even picked much unless it was an eggman main, or a new player. Even then, he was still counter able in 1.1! This was just an unnecessary nerf. OutLaik as usual burning the main dish.
Cream: I never have played cream much to begin with. The only real time she can be like an actual threat, is when the exe isn’t actively chasing here, therefore letting her heal. Other than that even SMALL EXE can counter her heal. ESPECIALLY if it’s an actual decent small exe. Honestly just shorten the cooldown, or give her more ways of defending herself other than just a speed boost and small hit box.
Big Exe: Grab was like so balanced in 1.1. It could perfectly down a survivor on its own no problem. All you had to do was try to grab the survivors away from the team. It could also perfectly kill alone survivors if not saved in time. Now if you get grabbed far away from your team, you’re cooked. Was no reason to make the ability do 20 damage. And giving it a lunge is overkill dude. Everyone knows a lot of big exes like to do the standing still strategy. Just make grab challenging to land. That’s what made it rewarding to hit. Now it’s just a move that barely takes any kind of real time in to hit.
Small Exe: NERF. THE. ATTACK. LINGER.
And nerf the how long he can hold his lunge. Small exe has decreased cooldown on his attacks in return for less damage. But with the stupid attack linger and lunge, you can down a METAL in less then 2 seconds bro. The most broken character in the game. His speed doesn’t make it any better.
Knuckles: I still like him. Honestly just give him like a buff or something so he’s not as outshined by Amy and metal. I don’t really know.
I really love this game but if the balancing continues to be exe buffs and survivor nerfs, then I don’t know if this game is gonna be very fun to play anymore. Also if you read all of this you’re very patient :)
Buffs to Knuckles could be:
1) Give him a Lingering Hitbox on his Punch. Either that or a small lunge.
2) Rework Block a bit. Rather than it working if EXE **LANDS** an attack on you, make it so it works if EXE collides with you while his Attacking Animation is playing. That way it's more consistent.
Everything else about Knuckles is fine, these are just to make him more reliable and consistent. And I agree with your other points, too.
@@Vortxnity07 These are some good ideas. I mean his punch already kinda has a little linger. But compared to a character like Amy it’s not very noticeable.
Another thing I wish they added back was Sally’s roll, I don’t really like the EMP all that much because to even hit it you gotta go CLOSE the exe or minion only for them to be slowed down. You do get a speed boost but to me it’s not really that long and I’m pretty sure you could just use the dash or spin dash to catch back up quickly, the worse part is if you miss your basically screwed because now your right next to the thing trying to kill you. Not only that but you can be hit while doing the EMP so even if you do hit it you’re one step closer to dying all for him to be slowed down? You can use your shield to make sure you don’t get hit but that just feels like a waste of a shield.
It can be useful to help teammates by slowing him down but it’s not even for that long anyway ( In my opinion ofc ) and again if you miss then it’s basically just a A for effort. It can also be good if you have to solo but honestly that roll has saved me way more them the EMP ever did ( I was a sally main while roll was still in game ) and yes, you can just play the 1.0 version bc the roll is still in that one but why would anyone wanna play 1.0? I just think the EMP is not that great, but then again it’s just my opinion and if you like it then that’s fine also.
Small correction EMP has I-frames on activation. not start-up activation
but ya roll is better
@@braveneon8271 ah Ty! I actually didn’t know this. Thanks!
Like, LET Eggman COOK
Outlaik think that if he put Glide on Cream he is gonna die like... Blud think sonic.exe is real💀?
@@SilKasugi probably because cream was hard to get back in the day. I mean he could just make it like rouges scrapped glide from the 1.1 prototype a year ago.
@@theshutuper Exactly man like what is the problem on making her stronger?
Eggman was good then he just had to be played correctly like I soloed a few games as eggman
@@thegarfieldguy9804 True but the 2 seconds was kinda detrimental. He finally got a buff with his shock which seemed to be a step in the right direction. Then all that came crashing down when turrets came….
Hashtag make cream and eggman better
@@I-Beat-Raikous-in-my-basement real