What the hell happened to Erick Landon's what the hell happened series? 😂😂 sad to see it finish but as you say, onwards to better things. Looking forward to them
I loved Chrono Trigger and Cross, and I am actually happy that Square actually didn't force a series out of this game! Your What the hell happened to series was awesome, Erick! I am looking forward to what you will come up with next.
Such a shame that this game won't have a sequel, prequel or just another installment. But having a "Dream Team" like Sakaguchi, Horii and Toriyama, working in a single game, is a rarity.
Unrelated to Chrono Trigger there is another game in the works with a "Dream Team" helping with production on an upcoming game. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes (Spiritual successor to Suikoden) Yoshitaka Murayama (Suikoden I and II) - Scenario Writer/Director Junko Kawano (Suikoden I and IV) - Lead Artist Osamu Komuta (Suikoden Tactics and Suikoden Tierkreis) - Director Junichi Murakami (Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow, OZ) - Producer/Art Director Motoi Sakuraba (Tales series) - Composer Michiko Naruke (Wild Arms series) - Composer It's not Chrono Trigger but it is something cool to look forward too.
Your videos bring me so much joy nostalgia and happiness my wife just laughs at me for watching your videos...she dont realize video games were my ecsape when my dad would come home drunk and stuff....anyways you a truly a godsent for sure!!!!
I remember asking my best friend to put the cd 1 of chrono cross just so i can watch in awe the intro........ I still consider it the best intro ib the psx history
It's one of the greatest games ever made. The soundtrack fits so well the moments. Gameplay isn't hard and characters are great. Plot is epic. Problem is the game is so well made that maybe Square is afraid to touch it. Even making a remake or a sequel it's hard because the game itself is a masterpiece.
Thank you very much for this video as well as the others you’ve made. As funny as it sounds you have helped give me closure with many of these games that I grew up with. I grew up with RPG’s and they’ve been a major part of most of my life. I’ve played all the legendary (Final Fantasy games VI being my favorite) as well as the Seiken Densetsu games, Crono games, Lufia, Valkyrie Profile, Suikoden, and Breath of Fire just to name a few. As a kid I’ve always wondered what the hell happened to all my childhood games that mean so much to me. I truly appreciate all the work and energy you have placed on these videos and I just wanted you to know that it has not gone unnoticed. Thank you once again for that, and I’m glad I found your channel as it’s always wonderful to meet a fellow RPG lover...
I remember when that guy that tried to make a chrono break fangame before the trademark expired got a c&d from square. And then chrono resurrection got the same treatment
Wow, 2 weeks ago I finally finish Chrono Cross with the good ending(at leat i think) and i really loved. Its a shame that this franchine ends with only 2 games, but at least I'll keep the DS and PS1 games
I think Chrono Trigger tends to get overlooked by "harcore" jrpg gamers who think its overrated. To me it is the best rpg on SNES and one of the best overall SNES games as well. Lots of little things Chrono Trigger did that were not really common until the next generation.
@@ll1844 yes there are reasons. But mostly it is nostalgia or other reasons. For example many people say FF7 is the best jrpg or the best FF ever. I played it some years ago and although i liked it i found it kinda dull. Not even nearly the best ff or jrpg for me. And there we come to the reasons why people think otherwise: First is nostalgia. Second is it was the very first 3D final fantasy game and was pretty good (for it's time). And third, it was the very first FF game in Europe ever. The reasons don't apply to me though, i don't have nostalgia for this game or anything like that. Story was okay for me but the storytelling was kinda mediocre. More than the half of the characters were flat. The spin off games have a better story and representation.
@@megakoni1 I did not play FF7 until 2014 and though the graphics were very dated by then, the game itself was awesome. I realized it was no coincidence that people love it. Is it the greatest jrpg ever ? Probably not. Is it an all time great jrpg ? Absolutely.
Precisely because Chrono Trigger is so big that making a direct sequel is even harder. Without original creators, you will lose the original feeling. Without original company, you can't secure the license. And if you FAIL, you lose BIG. Making indirect sequel or spin-off is a much safer bet. In the end, it's better to have no sequel at all so the series (I mean the original game) can retain its legendary status in real world and in our memories...
That's bullshit Square is just doing it to spite the original creators. Lots of games continue without the original creative teams. That's just Square politely saying that something happened behind the scenes and they want revenge on Sakaguchi.
To me, the lineup of people involved in this game, is basically the Dream Team of RPGs. Get those guys in a room together and you have a masterpiece. Unfortunately a couple of them have drifted away from Square/Enix. Also, not sure if you guys have mentioned, a game about TIME TRAVEL has some major problems. The story doesn’t make sense as a sequel :P I think Chrono Cross’s wacky story explains that pretty well.
Out of all yur what the hell happen to serie this one hit home .this is the game where it all began for me.i hope one day they do give the fans what we what to make a new Chrono trigger game for this eras of fans.thank Yu Erick for doing this serie.
I still believe that cross is indeed a sequel, and the DS version of triggers connects at some.point with cross. I have completed both games on each ending. El Nido is just another piece of the map missing on trigger. Just my personal opinion based on my gameplays
They actually explain why El Nido is missing on the CT map during Cross. Here's the thing- *Trigger and Cross take place in the same world * Trigger's time travel events directly caused the events of Cross. * A large number of Trigger's characters play very specific, pivotal roles in Cross (don't want to spoil the plot) I think that, given some very upsetting revelations about what happened to the Trigger cast after the closing events of that game, certain fans of Trigger want to *pretend* that the game isn't a sequel. But it is. Just because a story has gone in a direction some don't like doesn't mean the story does not exist.
I would say cross is a direct sequel I mean kid is the baby Lucca adopted at the end of trigger so that's a continuation. Glenn is in the game. Aylas daughter is in the game. Lavos was the last boss and so much more. Sure it's not Chrono trigger 2 but that's because Chrono had died in the first one and only his clone existed.
5:58 They made a gacha game that took heavy inspiration by other games they worked on, especially Chrono series if that counts. Same writer, and also same music composer. But different company, WTS, not Square Enix. The game is called Another Eden, and isn't from the same universe, but there is similar looking characters though such as Lucca Ashtear (named Ashtear), Frog (named Cyrus), and Tifa (named Amy), and is about time travel too, and there's also End of Time. Just like JRPG, there's world exploration in 2.5D, and because they wanted it to be like JRPG as much as possible they keep adding new strong "free" 5 star in the game like there's 50 of them now and no events either as in all collabs stayed in the game even years later, and even gacha characters can be obtained for free though those are abit more grindy, and no macro-transaction aside from crystal related. And the game been out since 2017, and is the very last game that writer worked out, which make sense cause live-service. Yet, alot of Chrono fans doesn't know so it's super underrated, like they even done an actual collab with Chrono Cross too. And yes, the game is also on PC, though just like Chrono Trigger, it's just a port and not as good as the original, aka Mobile in this case. Sure it may not be a direct sequel, they can't even if they wanted to cause different company means copyright issue, and it being a live service means there's no important choices either. But I thought it was still cool that there's a game with similarities to them by the same writer and music composer that constantly gets updated even now, lol XD
Such a shame, never heard about radical dreamers until watching, thanks for the knowledge! ^^ Also another shame about being the last what the hell, but the knowledge will always be here and always help those who yearn to learn about the beautiful past of the best and brightest rpgs =)
A remaster of Cross would make Square significant money, as is the only thing I could see them do with this series now unless they really put the right energy forward and make a true Trigger sequel. For me it would need to be done in the same art style to feel like it should. The music is my favorite of any game ever. That said, it has always blown my mind that with such a huge following and amazing fandom that there hasn't been anything since Cross other than fan creations.
Well, Square Enix did make a game nearly identical with Chrono Trigger which is I Am Setsuna. The storytelling and gameplay gave me Chrono Trigger vibes.
There's something intriguing about this case. Following the chaotic release of Chrono Trigger on Steam, a lot of efforts have been officialy made to make the version less terrible and more acceptable. Except to keep a clean image, why would Square Enix bother to all that trouble ?
Trigger was such a legendary game that a sequel is nearly impossible to make a true sequel for it. Even the little add on in the DS version was heavily scrutinized.
Perhaps you could do an article on people who have taken SNES games and rewritten the entire story, often graphics, and even often music - into their own creation. There is for instance: "Chrono Trigger - Flames Of Eternity." Which is radically an entirely unique game.
Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross have, in my opinion, the best musical scores of not only that era, but of this generation as well. Game developers, to me, seem to only care about how games look nowadays, not how they feel. Yes, game worlds can immerse a player and wow them, but without a good musical score to go with it, it feels empty, emotionless. Also, to me, Chrono Cross has the absolute best opening cutscene and music. The flute combined with the violin gets me so excited. If/when Crono is introduced in Smash Bros., maybe Square Enix will wake up and give us the sequels to Chrono Trigger and Valkyrie Profile that we want, need and deserve
First of all excellent vid. I think what rly happened apart form what you said in the video is that Chrono trigger was too good for itself and very well wrapped up storywise games like these are too good for themselves i mean if they wanted a direct sequel they would really have to outdo their previous selves and that alone would be very hard when you create smth this special put in the mix new projects maybe some personal conflict the creators had and its not hard for a gem of a series like chrono to be forgotten. Indeed its a game that has everything and despite its age showing compared to todays rpgs (basically for me its timeless but) i would say to whoever is reading this that its a huge loss for them as an rpg player if they havent got their hands on it yet. Truly a loss for the rpg pantheon the sequel to chrono trigger as we d expect it will never come to be but at least we experienced trigger and cross both masterpieces and with lots of replay value. One phrase GET THEM!
I'm one of those people that believes that something shouldn't last forever. Clock in, do your thing, and clock out. Chrono Trigger is a masterpiece, but other than a remake, I don't see the series itself going anywhere anytime soon.
Wow, never knew about all that extra stuff like Radical Dreamers (God, that explains a lot lol) and Chrono Break, which sounds kinda frikkin awesome if I do say so myself.... Thanks, E!
Sometimes it's best to have no other sequals.. it doesn't capture the magic sometimes. Look what they with chrono cross.... level cap in each chapter. Let the player decide if they want to grind and level up. Taking away that part was just horrible. A RPG game is also about gaining power by leveling up. If we want challenge we won't level up much at least it's our choice. We had to play their way. Well it's what it is. The only good thing is Chrono Trigger the SNES version.. Well each his own
yeah... no, you can still farm equipment that will help a lot in battle if you want, besides i think is good that the game make you experiment with the gameplay to beat it, it let you appreciate more the mechanics and promote you to create better strategies than spend hours and hours of mindless grinding, but, i guess as you say each to his own
I couldn't care less for a second Chrono Trigger really. Cross was an awesome way to tell another perspective of that universe, and also, I really liked the way they tied all together. Very poetical. That is a nice way to make an story have a very special place in the hearts of their fans. If they have something with value and relevant through a sequel, that's great. But seeing the result of this timeless masterpiece by releasing a sort of spinoff... Sequel, spinoff, whatever. I just hope that we get something more of this universe and its point of view, no matter what it is.
Congrats on 21K! I understand it may be hard to do the what the hell happened series. I enjoyed them, but I understand that you need to walk away from a series.
Erm.... Xenogears was originally pitched as a possible Final Fantasy VII, but was dismissed as being "too dark" for a FF plotline (which is odd given how dark FFVII turned out being). While it is true that for a VERY short time, Xenogears was planned to be "Chrono 2", that was a very short thing (just a month or two), and didn't even last through the process of assembling the development team. Takahashi made it clear very early on that he wanted to create his own world for the project.
Also they need to remaster grandia 1 and 2 and 3 and yeah I know about the HD remaster on the switch for grandia 1 and 2 I want them released on the PlayStation and the Xbox
I remember borrowing CT from a friend in high school. I 3njoy3dmit, but it didnt captivate me like Secret of Mana did or FF3. In fact, Legend of Mana on the PS1 is my favorite game (spritework, gameplay, stories, music, customizing things).... i just dont understand how CT is still considered better. Thats like saying Super Metroid is the best exploration game when Syphony of the Nightt exists. I dont even have to name the game because people know SotN is Castlevania, which is still considered by most (including me) the best CV ever.
Honestly I’m not asking for a sequel, I think what most of what the fans want is a remake or at the very least to see ANY chrono character have a cameo in another game.
This is worth watching, in relation to Chrono Break: ua-cam.com/video/w3SU5dDBwCI/v-deo.html Which makes me think that despite not being able to put together the amazing dream team that worked on Trigger/Cross, it is still possible for fans to carry on the torch---if only both Enix and Nintendo had that bad habit to shoot down any project instead of taking the Sonic Mania's approach: HIRE the fans. With that said, even if they don't make a sequel or remaster I am happy with it, both Trigger and Cross will be eternal mile stones c: especially Cross has such tight battle system, AMAZING soundtrack and really pretty graphics ^^
tbh Radical Dreamers is a pretty good vn, it has way more interactivity than you usual vn, besides of being pretty focused on its story and no too long to get bored, asides of its great music/sfx that creates an immersive ambient
The aggravating thing is that square enix has PLENTY of talent to make a worthy successor, but as you NEARLY pointed out; Japanese developers typically do not make sequels or remake without the original developers.i think it’s a very short sighted approach personally as the best western example of the exact OPPOSITE approach is god of war. The same director has only been on two titles and the teams changed up every single time other than the one mentioned including directors.
I have 2 questions for you. 1. Did you know a rapper named Hodgy did a song using a chrono trigger melody called Maxell tapes? 2. Have you done any videos about my favorite JRPG, "Valkyrie Profile"?
I think there was a recent quote from a Square Enix employee about the Chrono series not selling well hence no sequel.. It was around the time of the Steam PC port. I think that's just their cheap marketing trick to get people to keep purchasing the product though..in this case anyway
what a dumb statement from them....SquareEnix or whatever new brand of they are not....are incompetent to make a sequel as good as CC. I saw how good is Zelda : Breath of the Wild.....simple...they cant make something as good as Zelda with CC name. Not selling well my ass....1,5 million copies isnt a low number.
There is no such thing as a direct sequel for time travel themes. Chrono Trigger was it's own sequel, as it had multiple "sequels" as alternate endings via time travel. Chrono Cross is what we will ever get, because it's all there can be. The same enemy endlessly using time travel to present itself as the threat. And even if they create a new threat, it would just use time travel to cross paths with alternate timeline Lavos' and it will just be the same thing over and over, and over, and over, and....get it? Chrono Cross was Chrono Trigger. Same bosses from alternate timelines, and same final boss.
To me, the obvious path to rebooting this series starts with a remake of the original. Let a new team get their feet wet with remaking it, so they can become familiar with what it's all about. Then they can either remake Chrono Cross, or start making new games in the series.
Great video, Erick. I'm not into Chrono Trigger but I liked learning about it and its sequel. I wish this wasn't the final What the Hell to video. This has been a great series.
Chrono Cross BEST RPG in PS 1!!! The Graphics of this game is almost PS 2 level!!! The Gameplay and Battle System is also very interesting and fresh! The Story even though kinda confusing, I still think it has it own charm.
Rommel James Cabatay I think what makes it so confusing to most is that they miss the fact that the words in cross are a mish-mash of all the what if scenarios caused by the events of Chrono Trigger. Had that been made more clear I think people would not find it so confusing
a friend gave me chrono cross as a gift a long long time ago altho i never owned a playstation.. i still have the game but ive never played it, i played chrono trigger a lot tho.. should i play chrono cross, is it that good?.. awesome video, would be cool if you had mention the chrono trigger resurrection project that got cease and desist by square enix
Chrono Cross is an awesome game in it's own right, definitely worth a playthrough and the game has a rather unique plot twist midway through that I won't spoil for you. CC has good optional bosses and is a significant graphical upgrade and uses CGI instead of the more cartoonish look of Trigger's cut scenes. The battle system is timing based for successful attacks which may or may not be your cup of tea but overall I'd say definitely play it if you like CT as long as you don't expect a tied in sequel you'll enjoy it.
@@Furytear cool thx mate, yeah i think i will like the battle system, gameplay is the most important aspect for me most of the time, i will also look up to its story and music..
Omg please no I'm done seeing some of my favorite games of all time being dragged through the mud for a fast dollar some kind of Port of Chrono cross would be apreciated since the only memes of playing it anymore for me would be emulation
Well, I will miss these What the Hell happened videos. Are you gonna make them a playlist? I agree with you. Chrono Cross was a great game, but originally disappointing for me due to the reasons you stated. Both games had an amazing OST, and graphics for their respective times. Too bad Square/Enix is basically leaving it dead. The game can basically write itself. Magus as the main protagonist searching for Schala.
Chrono trigger never really appealed to me until the release of chrono cross. I’m hoping they remaster chrono cross or make a new sequel on switch and PS4 or Xbox one
@@the13thjoker first game is a sequel to the novel and Parasite Eve 2 is a sequel to the event of 1, after 2 square lost the rights to Parasite Eve somewhere but Aya, Kyle, Meada and Eve are Squares original characters so they put them in a new IP called The 3rd Birthday, ive been obsessed with this series for years just wanted to see more videos on the series
I think Square is just afraid of ruining the legacy of a masterpiece, its not like Chrono went anywhere it's always getting ported and rereleased on new systems and consoles. The game is pretty self contained I mean sure fans want more but what else is there for them to do exactly? SPOILER: Also, one big issue is Chrono Cross kinda fucked up Chrono and co, like the main heroes essentially died once their kingdom got taken over, the girl inventor got assassinated by the panther dude and even Robo got disassembled into parts so where do they go from there? Finally, Chrono Cross essentially ends the entire world as well cuz the chick and the MC end up to the present day still looking for each other. There's just no logical progression for the world anymore, the best Square can do is maybe remake Chrono Trigger the same way they are doing to FF7. With the success of FF7 remake there is def a chance of that happening.
What the hell happened to Erick Landon's what the hell happened series? 😂😂 sad to see it finish but as you say, onwards to better things. Looking forward to them
I loved Chrono Trigger and Cross, and I am actually happy that Square actually didn't force a series out of this game!
Your What the hell happened to series was awesome, Erick! I am looking forward to what you will come up with next.
The beginning of the vid gave me absolute chills. What a gift it would be if all of those geniuses got together to create another fantastic jrpg.
Such a shame that this game won't have a sequel, prequel or just another installment. But having a "Dream Team" like Sakaguchi, Horii and Toriyama, working in a single game, is a rarity.
Blue Dragon was a thing which is cool!
Unrelated to Chrono Trigger there is another game in the works with a "Dream Team" helping with production on an upcoming game.
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes (Spiritual successor to Suikoden)
Yoshitaka Murayama (Suikoden I and II) - Scenario Writer/Director
Junko Kawano (Suikoden I and IV) - Lead Artist
Osamu Komuta (Suikoden Tactics and Suikoden Tierkreis) - Director
Junichi Murakami (Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow, OZ) - Producer/Art Director
Motoi Sakuraba (Tales series) - Composer
Michiko Naruke (Wild Arms series) - Composer
It's not Chrono Trigger but it is something cool to look forward too.
Your videos bring me so much joy nostalgia and happiness my wife just laughs at me for watching your videos...she dont realize video games were my ecsape when my dad would come home drunk and stuff....anyways you a truly a godsent for sure!!!!
I remember asking my best friend to put the cd 1 of chrono cross just so i can watch in awe the intro........ I still consider it the best intro ib the psx history
Thanks for the retrospective on an amazing series! I would love to see a remaster or remake of Chrono Cross!!!
Let's spam SquareEnix about it.
If any remaster is done it should dam be chrome trigger , the tri skills , glen ,foxy chick , chrono I would love to see in 4k
@@teebo5298chrono cross deserves it more
It's one of the greatest games ever made. The soundtrack fits so well the moments. Gameplay isn't hard and characters are great. Plot is epic. Problem is the game is so well made that maybe Square is afraid to touch it. Even making a remake or a sequel it's hard because the game itself is a masterpiece.
Thanks for this series. I enjoyed it and am sad to see it go although it isn't an end to your channel.
Love your series man. Thank you for doing them!!
Thank you very much for this video as well as the others you’ve made. As funny as it sounds you have helped give me closure with many of these games that I grew up with. I grew up with RPG’s and they’ve been a major part of most of my life. I’ve played all the legendary (Final Fantasy games VI being my favorite) as well as the Seiken Densetsu games, Crono games, Lufia, Valkyrie Profile, Suikoden, and Breath of Fire just to name a few. As a kid I’ve always wondered what the hell happened to all my childhood games that mean so much to me. I truly appreciate all the work and energy you have placed on these videos and I just wanted you to know that it has not gone unnoticed. Thank you once again for that, and I’m glad I found your channel as it’s always wonderful to meet a fellow RPG lover...
Once again another amazing video Erick I hope all is well for you. have a blessed day!!!!
Awesome series, Erick. Looking forward to what you do next. Great ending since Chrono Cross is your favorite game
I remember when that guy that tried to make a chrono break fangame before the trademark expired got a c&d from square.
And then chrono resurrection got the same treatment
Wow, 2 weeks ago I finally finish Chrono Cross with the good ending(at leat i think) and i really loved. Its a shame that this franchine ends with only 2 games, but at least I'll keep the DS and PS1 games
I think Chrono Trigger tends to get overlooked by "harcore" jrpg gamers who think its overrated. To me it is the best rpg on SNES and one of the best overall SNES games as well.
Lots of little things Chrono Trigger did that were not really common until the next generation.
I think the word, "overrated" is a term used by haters who are angry that their favorite things aren't publicly glorified.
I think every game/genre which is called the best of the best is overrated. It always comes down to your own opinion about it in the end.
@@megakoni1 sure but sometimes there is a reason why people love some games more than others. Especially when it's still the case 20+ years later.
@@ll1844 yes there are reasons. But mostly it is nostalgia or other reasons. For example many people say FF7 is the best jrpg or the best FF ever. I played it some years ago and although i liked it i found it kinda dull. Not even nearly the best ff or jrpg for me. And there we come to the reasons why people think otherwise:
First is nostalgia.
Second is it was the very first 3D final fantasy game and was pretty good (for it's time).
And third, it was the very first FF game in Europe ever.
The reasons don't apply to me though, i don't have nostalgia for this game or anything like that. Story was okay for me but the storytelling was kinda mediocre. More than the half of the characters were flat. The spin off games have a better story and representation.
@@megakoni1 I did not play FF7 until 2014 and though the graphics were very dated by then, the game itself was awesome. I realized it was no coincidence that people love it.
Is it the greatest jrpg ever ?
Probably not.
Is it an all time great jrpg ?
Absolutely.
Precisely because Chrono Trigger is so big that making a direct sequel is even harder. Without original creators, you will lose the original feeling. Without original company, you can't secure the license. And if you FAIL, you lose BIG. Making indirect sequel or spin-off is a much safer bet.
In the end, it's better to have no sequel at all so the series (I mean the original game) can retain its legendary status in real world and in our memories...
That's bullshit Square is just doing it to spite the original creators. Lots of games continue without the original creative teams. That's just Square politely saying that something happened behind the scenes and they want revenge on Sakaguchi.
To me, the lineup of people involved in this game, is basically the Dream Team of RPGs. Get those guys in a room together and you have a masterpiece. Unfortunately a couple of them have drifted away from Square/Enix. Also, not sure if you guys have mentioned, a game about TIME TRAVEL has some major problems. The story doesn’t make sense as a sequel :P I think Chrono Cross’s wacky story explains that pretty well.
Out of all yur what the hell happen to serie this one hit home .this is the game where it all began for me.i hope one day they do give the fans what we what to make a new Chrono trigger game for this eras of fans.thank Yu Erick for doing this serie.
Sorry to see this great series go but I very much look forward to any ideas you come up with next.
I still believe that cross is indeed a sequel, and the DS version of triggers connects at some.point with cross. I have completed both games on each ending. El Nido is just another piece of the map missing on trigger. Just my personal opinion based on my gameplays
They actually explain why El Nido is missing on the CT map during Cross.
Here's the thing-
*Trigger and Cross take place in the same world
* Trigger's time travel events directly caused the events of Cross.
* A large number of Trigger's characters play very specific, pivotal roles in Cross (don't want to spoil the plot)
I think that, given some very upsetting revelations about what happened to the Trigger cast after the closing events of that game, certain fans of Trigger want to *pretend* that the game isn't a sequel.
But it is.
Just because a story has gone in a direction some don't like doesn't mean the story does not exist.
@@danieldavis2055 Exactly thank you!
Great video, surprised that chrono resurrection wasn't mentioned though.
I would say cross is a direct sequel I mean kid is the baby Lucca adopted at the end of trigger so that's a continuation. Glenn is in the game. Aylas daughter is in the game. Lavos was the last boss and so much more. Sure it's not Chrono trigger 2 but that's because Chrono had died in the first one and only his clone existed.
5:58
They made a gacha game that took heavy inspiration by other games they worked on, especially Chrono series if that counts. Same writer, and also same music composer. But different company, WTS, not Square Enix. The game is called Another Eden, and isn't from the same universe, but there is similar looking characters though such as Lucca Ashtear (named Ashtear), Frog (named Cyrus), and Tifa (named Amy), and is about time travel too, and there's also End of Time. Just like JRPG, there's world exploration in 2.5D, and because they wanted it to be like JRPG as much as possible they keep adding new strong "free" 5 star in the game like there's 50 of them now and no events either as in all collabs stayed in the game even years later, and even gacha characters can be obtained for free though those are abit more grindy, and no macro-transaction aside from crystal related. And the game been out since 2017, and is the very last game that writer worked out, which make sense cause live-service. Yet, alot of Chrono fans doesn't know so it's super underrated, like they even done an actual collab with Chrono Cross too. And yes, the game is also on PC, though just like Chrono Trigger, it's just a port and not as good as the original, aka Mobile in this case.
Sure it may not be a direct sequel, they can't even if they wanted to cause different company means copyright issue, and it being a live service means there's no important choices either. But I thought it was still cool that there's a game with similarities to them by the same writer and music composer that constantly gets updated even now, lol XD
Such a shame, never heard about radical dreamers until watching, thanks for the knowledge! ^^
Also another shame about being the last what the hell, but the knowledge will always be here and always help those who yearn to learn about the beautiful past of the best and brightest rpgs =)
A remaster of Cross would make Square significant money, as is the only thing I could see them do with this series now unless they really put the right energy forward and make a true Trigger sequel. For me it would need to be done in the same art style to feel like it should. The music is my favorite of any game ever. That said, it has always blown my mind that with such a huge following and amazing fandom that there hasn't been anything since Cross other than fan creations.
Well, Square Enix did make a game nearly identical with Chrono Trigger which is I Am Setsuna. The storytelling and gameplay gave me Chrono Trigger vibes.
@@darkfyraproductions7958 whoah, I never heard of that. I gotta try it.
I started playing Chrono Trigger with the FF chronicles version back in 2002. I would love to see a direct sequel to this game.
There's something intriguing about this case. Following the chaotic release of Chrono Trigger on Steam, a lot of efforts have been officialy made to make the version less terrible and more acceptable. Except to keep a clean image, why would Square Enix bother to all that trouble ?
Thanks for the video, sad this is the last video of this series. See ya later Erick!
Trigger was such a legendary game that a sequel is nearly impossible to make a true sequel for it. Even the little add on in the DS version was heavily scrutinized.
Perhaps you could do an article on people who have taken SNES games and rewritten the entire story, often graphics, and even often music - into their own creation. There is for instance:
"Chrono Trigger - Flames Of Eternity." Which is radically an entirely unique game.
This needs to come back
Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross have, in my opinion, the best musical scores of not only that era, but of this generation as well. Game developers, to me, seem to only care about how games look nowadays, not how they feel. Yes, game worlds can immerse a player and wow them, but without a good musical score to go with it, it feels empty, emotionless.
Also, to me, Chrono Cross has the absolute best opening cutscene and music. The flute combined with the violin gets me so excited.
If/when Crono is introduced in Smash Bros., maybe Square Enix will wake up and give us the sequels to Chrono Trigger and Valkyrie Profile that we want, need and deserve
Thank you for. The history lesson on my favorite game
First of all excellent vid. I think what rly happened apart form what you said in the video is that Chrono trigger was too good for itself and very well wrapped up storywise games like these are too good for themselves i mean if they wanted a direct sequel they would really have to outdo their previous selves and that alone would be very hard when you create smth this special put in the mix new projects maybe some personal conflict the creators had and its not hard for a gem of a series like chrono to be forgotten. Indeed its a game that has everything and despite its age showing compared to todays rpgs (basically for me its timeless but) i would say to whoever is reading this that its a huge loss for them as an rpg player if they havent got their hands on it yet. Truly a loss for the rpg pantheon the sequel to chrono trigger as we d expect it will never come to be but at least we experienced trigger and cross both masterpieces and with lots of replay value. One phrase GET THEM!
Aww, I loved the what the hell happened to series of vids you have done. Next video idea. What the hell happened to what the hell happened videos.
Great video man new fan :D
I played Chrono Trigger on PSP from the psone classics on psn.
me too! :D
I'm one of those people that believes that something shouldn't last forever. Clock in, do your thing, and clock out.
Chrono Trigger is a masterpiece, but other than a remake, I don't see the series itself going anywhere anytime soon.
Wow, never knew about all that extra stuff like Radical Dreamers (God, that explains a lot lol) and Chrono Break, which sounds kinda frikkin awesome if I do say so myself.... Thanks, E!
Sometimes it's best to have no other sequals.. it doesn't capture the magic sometimes. Look what they with chrono cross.... level cap in each chapter. Let the player decide if they want to grind and level up. Taking away that part was just horrible. A RPG game is also about gaining power by leveling up. If we want challenge we won't level up much at least it's our choice. We had to play their way. Well it's what it is. The only good thing is Chrono Trigger the SNES version.. Well each his own
yeah... no, you can still farm equipment that will help a lot in battle if you want, besides i think is good that the game make you experiment with the gameplay to beat it, it let you appreciate more the mechanics and promote you to create better strategies than spend hours and hours of mindless grinding, but, i guess as you say each to his own
I couldn't care less for a second Chrono Trigger really. Cross was an awesome way to tell another perspective of that universe, and also, I really liked the way they tied all together. Very poetical. That is a nice way to make an story have a very special place in the hearts of their fans. If they have something with value and relevant through a sequel, that's great. But seeing the result of this timeless masterpiece by releasing a sort of spinoff... Sequel, spinoff, whatever. I just hope that we get something more of this universe and its point of view, no matter what it is.
Great video. I would love a remaster for Chrono Cross. That would make me happy.
Congrats on 21K! I understand it may be hard to do the what the hell happened series. I enjoyed them, but I understand that you need to walk away from a series.
Erm.... Xenogears was originally pitched as a possible Final Fantasy VII, but was dismissed as being "too dark" for a FF plotline (which is odd given how dark FFVII turned out being).
While it is true that for a VERY short time, Xenogears was planned to be "Chrono 2", that was a very short thing (just a month or two), and didn't even last through the process of assembling the development team. Takahashi made it clear very early on that he wanted to create his own world for the project.
Dope content man keep it up
Also they need to remaster grandia 1 and 2 and 3 and yeah I know about the HD remaster on the switch for grandia 1 and 2 I want them released on the PlayStation and the Xbox
I remember borrowing CT from a friend in high school. I 3njoy3dmit, but it didnt captivate me like Secret of Mana did or FF3. In fact, Legend of Mana on the PS1 is my favorite game (spritework, gameplay, stories, music, customizing things).... i just dont understand how CT is still considered better. Thats like saying Super Metroid is the best exploration game when Syphony of the Nightt exists. I dont even have to name the game because people know SotN is Castlevania, which is still considered by most (including me) the best CV ever.
Do you guys think that square should sell off some of their IPs? They have so many forgotten gems that with the right studio could sell well today.
We need this on the switch
Lmfao good luck with that!!!
thx erick for this great video!
what is the songs name at 2:50?
eyy they just added the osts to both games on spotify
Honestly I’m not asking for a sequel, I think what most of what the fans want is a remake or at the very least to see ANY chrono character have a cameo in another game.
I never was so early lol. Uploaded just a minute a go. Thank you for this cool series
This is worth watching, in relation to Chrono Break:
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Which makes me think that despite not being able to put together the amazing dream team that worked on Trigger/Cross, it is still possible for fans to carry on the torch---if only both Enix and Nintendo had that bad habit to shoot down any project instead of taking the Sonic Mania's approach: HIRE the fans.
With that said, even if they don't make a sequel or remaster I am happy with it, both Trigger and Cross will be eternal mile stones c: especially Cross has such tight battle system, AMAZING soundtrack and really pretty graphics ^^
tbh Radical Dreamers is a pretty good vn, it has way more interactivity than you usual vn, besides of being pretty focused on its story and no too long to get bored, asides of its great music/sfx that creates an immersive ambient
everyone wants to see chrono trigger with amazing graphics like dqxi
Great video as always erick. Now that I've watched this, Im going to start .hack//gu now lol, heard that it's a great trilogy so yeah. :)
Damn. Whens the sequel to the what the hell happened to series coming?
In a few weeks :)
The aggravating thing is that square enix has PLENTY of talent to make a worthy successor, but as you NEARLY pointed out; Japanese developers typically do not make sequels or remake without the original developers.i think it’s a very short sighted approach personally as the best western example of the exact OPPOSITE approach is god of war. The same director has only been on two titles and the teams changed up every single time other than the one mentioned including directors.
Another Eden on Android is amazing game and for me have a soul of Chrono series. Also made by creators of CT.
1:40 I still cannot get over the (perhaps petty?) inaccuracy in the game’s own cover art 😂
I have 2 questions for you.
1. Did you know a rapper named Hodgy did a song using a chrono trigger melody called Maxell tapes?
2. Have you done any videos about my favorite JRPG, "Valkyrie Profile"?
I made a mistake on the title of the song. It's called "Memorex CDs" it uses Chrono Trigger's memories of green melody as a sample
I think there was a recent quote from a Square Enix employee about the Chrono series not selling well hence no sequel.. It was around the time of the Steam PC port. I think that's just their cheap marketing trick to get people to keep purchasing the product though..in this case anyway
what a dumb statement from them....SquareEnix or whatever new brand of they are not....are incompetent to make a sequel as good as CC. I saw how good is Zelda : Breath of the Wild.....simple...they cant make something as good as Zelda with CC name. Not selling well my ass....1,5 million copies isnt a low number.
There is no such thing as a direct sequel for time travel themes. Chrono Trigger was it's own sequel, as it had multiple "sequels" as alternate endings via time travel. Chrono Cross is what we will ever get, because it's all there can be. The same enemy endlessly using time travel to present itself as the threat. And even if they create a new threat, it would just use time travel to cross paths with alternate timeline Lavos' and it will just be the same thing over and over, and over, and over, and....get it? Chrono Cross was Chrono Trigger. Same bosses from alternate timelines, and same final boss.
To me, the obvious path to rebooting this series starts with a remake of the original. Let a new team get their feet wet with remaking it, so they can become familiar with what it's all about. Then they can either remake Chrono Cross, or start making new games in the series.
Speaking of Chrono, what made Cross your favorite game of all time? 'cause i'm really looking forward to play it as i really liked Trigger
Also remastered Legend of Dragoon Wild Arms and exogears
Chrono 20 years is a short jump the series transcends time constraint.
The Chrono Franchise will always hold a high rank in my eyes
I'm dying to get my hands on the DS version but I just don't have the money.
I never liked Chrono Trigger that much. But Chrono Cross is one of my most beloved rpgs from PS1.
I mean, technically, Chrono Cross ends with you destroying the multiverse and rebooting it to a universe that looks like ours, so there's that.
It surely is in my top 3 on the SNES, aswell on every other platform
Great video, Erick. I'm not into Chrono Trigger but I liked learning about it and its sequel. I wish this wasn't the final What the Hell to video. This has been a great series.
I wish Square would port Chrono Cross. I played that game first and have fonder memories of it than the original Trigger.
If you have a ps3 you can download it.
Without a doubt, Chrono Cross is my most favorite PS1 jrpg of all time!
Chrono Trigger sequels are the xeno series because xenogears at the start was Chrono Trigger 2. So play xeno if you want Chrono games.
also i could imagine square making the main characters all characters emos dressed in all black so... yeah lets not want to see that kay... KAY
There's a sequel going on for Brigandine and Vagrant Story.
Chrono Cross BEST RPG in PS 1!!! The Graphics of this game is almost PS 2 level!!! The Gameplay and Battle System is also very interesting and fresh!
The Story even though kinda confusing, I still think it has it own charm.
Rommel James Cabatay I think what makes it so confusing to most is that they miss the fact that the words in cross are a mish-mash of all the what if scenarios caused by the events of Chrono Trigger. Had that been made more clear I think people would not find it so confusing
Bring Chrono Trigger to the Switch
a friend gave me chrono cross as a gift a long long time ago altho i never owned a playstation.. i still have the game but ive never played it, i played chrono trigger a lot tho.. should i play chrono cross, is it that good?..
awesome video, would be cool if you had mention the chrono trigger resurrection project that got cease and desist by square enix
Chrono Cross is an awesome game in it's own right, definitely worth a playthrough and the game has a rather unique plot twist midway through that I won't spoil for you. CC has good optional bosses and is a significant graphical upgrade and uses CGI instead of the more cartoonish look of Trigger's cut scenes.
The battle system is timing based for successful attacks which may or may not be your cup of tea but overall I'd say definitely play it if you like CT as long as you don't expect a tied in sequel you'll enjoy it.
@@Furytear cool thx mate, yeah i think i will like the battle system, gameplay is the most important aspect for me most of the time, i will also look up to its story and music..
We need remasters of both Chrono Trigger and Chrono cross on PlayStation 4 and Xbox are PlayStation 5 and Xbox Scarlett
Omg please no I'm done seeing some of my favorite games of all time being dragged through the mud for a fast dollar some kind of Port of Chrono cross would be apreciated since the only memes of playing it anymore for me would be emulation
Well, I will miss these What the Hell happened videos. Are you gonna make them a playlist? I agree with you. Chrono Cross was a great game, but originally disappointing for me due to the reasons you stated. Both games had an amazing OST, and graphics for their respective times. Too bad Square/Enix is basically leaving it dead. The game can basically write itself. Magus as the main protagonist searching for Schala.
dont worry im sure a chrono mobile game action spin off will come one day
With no Sakaguchi...there is no Chrono sequel....that sucks!
Nooooo. Its all overrrrr!!!!
Chrono break my heart
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Chrono trigger never really appealed to me until the release of chrono cross. I’m hoping they remaster chrono cross or make a new sequel on switch and PS4 or Xbox one
Great series.
I just wanna see a Switch port of Cross.
Keep on dreaming!
What the hell happened to Starfy?
thought Valkyrie Profile 2 was your favorite rpg
did you ever do a what the hell episode on the Parasite Eve series
Parasite eve based on novel right ? The novel is done at parasite eve 2. The third game called the third birthday isnt parasite eve sequel.
@@the13thjoker first game is a sequel to the novel and Parasite Eve 2 is a sequel to the event of 1, after 2 square lost the rights to Parasite Eve somewhere but Aya, Kyle, Meada and Eve are Squares original characters so they put them in a new IP called The 3rd Birthday, ive been obsessed with this series for years just wanted to see more videos on the series
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I think Square is just afraid of ruining the legacy of a masterpiece, its not like Chrono went anywhere it's always getting ported and rereleased on new systems and consoles. The game is pretty self contained I mean sure fans want more but what else is there for them to do exactly?
SPOILER:
Also, one big issue is Chrono Cross kinda fucked up Chrono and co, like the main heroes essentially died once their kingdom got taken over, the girl inventor got assassinated by the panther dude and even Robo got disassembled into parts so where do they go from there? Finally, Chrono Cross essentially ends the entire world as well cuz the chick and the MC end up to the present day still looking for each other.
There's just no logical progression for the world anymore, the best Square can do is maybe remake Chrono Trigger the same way they are doing to FF7. With the success of FF7 remake there is def a chance of that happening.
I'm already with "saudade" of WTHHT... :( ...
I'm over the fact that we wo t be getting chrono trigger 64 for now
However, the Dragon Quest franchise is still going.