Some comments: -picture around 8:30 is of Russian soldiers standing infront of a mass-grave of presumably armenians. -picture around 9:30 is of Bulgarian units standing infront of the corpses of muslim civilians. -picture around 10:00 are turkish refugees. -picture around 10:20 is of turks using a demolished armenian church for auctions. Idk why anyone would do that, but whatever. Song at the end is from: ua-cam.com/video/VTbjYzj24L0/v-deo.html It is about leaving Rumeli behind, but I found the tone very fitting, which is why I wanted to include it in the end. Lastly a few final words about the genocide topic: I have no issues pointing at the various atrocities (or genocide if you want to) committed by the muslim side towards various orthodox sides. I am not denying this, nor is the turkish government denying it (on the offical foreign ministry page they are speaking about a great tragedy, but deliberatly avoid using words such as genocide or atrocities, but for all sides). So how does this fit with my first video? My first video is about the government involvement and the conclusion I am presenting is that the tragedy of 1915 and onwards is not a government conducted operation, but an operation done by civilians or rogue governors/soldiers. I still stand by that. This neither invalidates the tragedy the armenian people went through, nor does it invalidate the stories/pov of the armenian side. Hence, it fits into both narratives and the topic (at least for me) is done with that. However, the shear amount of atrocities and genocides (you can also label it just a "tragedy" for all I care) of the christian side towards the muslim side is a topic, that is often straight up denied and talk down, which is why I want to emphasize again that this topic has to be discussed as a whole and not selectively.
Some comments:
-picture around 8:30 is of Russian soldiers standing infront of a mass-grave of presumably armenians.
-picture around 9:30 is of Bulgarian units standing infront of the corpses of muslim civilians.
-picture around 10:00 are turkish refugees.
-picture around 10:20 is of turks using a demolished armenian church for auctions. Idk why anyone would do that, but whatever.
Song at the end is from:
ua-cam.com/video/VTbjYzj24L0/v-deo.html
It is about leaving Rumeli behind, but I found the tone very fitting, which is why I wanted to include it in the end.
Lastly a few final words about the genocide topic:
I have no issues pointing at the various atrocities (or genocide if you want to) committed by the muslim side towards various orthodox sides. I am not denying this, nor is the turkish government denying it (on the offical foreign ministry page they are speaking about a great tragedy, but deliberatly avoid using words such as genocide or atrocities, but for all sides). So how does this fit with my first video? My first video is about the government involvement and the conclusion I am presenting is that the tragedy of 1915 and onwards is not a government conducted operation, but an operation done by civilians or rogue governors/soldiers. I still stand by that. This neither invalidates the tragedy the armenian people went through, nor does it invalidate the stories/pov of the armenian side. Hence, it fits into both narratives and the topic (at least for me) is done with that.
However, the shear amount of atrocities and genocides (you can also label it just a "tragedy" for all I care) of the christian side towards the muslim side is a topic, that is often straight up denied and talk down, which is why I want to emphasize again that this topic has to be discussed as a whole and not selectively.