I'm now nearly a master of fat anatomy because I noticed *NO ONE COVERED FAT* and skin's role in how we look. It's kind of bizarre. I can only think of one good book by Morpho and a few Anatomy For Sculptors images that even talk about face fat pads and butt fat pads in grown up detail.
Yes they are definitely not as talked about as they should be. They effect the forms of the face far more than the facial muscles (unless the muscles are flexed in an expression).
I think it's due to how art anatomy formed. Fat decomposes first, so Ie it was easy to get hold of skull for reference, but soft and squishy parts, not so much.
@@PLKinka This is likely true, but many of the old masters were insanely good at muscle and the like. And could use live models. And many pre-historic European artworks from southern and northern European, and east to west as well were based on plump women. Focusing on breast, butt and stomach fat. Which they seemed to find very appealing as it comes up over and over again. I'm going to go out on a limb and say there's something else going on there that may have to do with newer beauty standards or something of the like and perhaps "class" having an influence over what we choose to even learn. On top of it being harder perhaps to get a model for fat than a skull.
Ears! and chin/neck shadowing. Ears are so individual and fascinating and the setting out the relationship between the ears and the jawline and the neck and their respective shadows are eluding me at the moment.
Great suggestion! You may like this video. ua-cam.com/video/TvM6zGvCWJ4/v-deo.htmlsi=35TB1h3CTPgGXRD5 it’s for sculptors but has a lot of info for all artists.
This is so amazingly helpful!!! I hope you include some female face fat pad diagrams in your female ebook. Thanks for sharing your talent and knowledge with us! ❤
Christmas it's early this year! So many fantastic videos 🤩 I'll buy the male version at the end of the month and the female one as soon as it launched 💪 Thank you Andrew. You are such an inspiration to all of us 🙏💪Shout out to your triceps 😅 they were making a cameo on this one for sure 😅
@@AndrewJosephKeith by the way I want to thank you for the “ modest “ body art book . My husband is very sensitive to complete nudity so I’m able to still study , and keep him happy. I don’t know why he’s that way , he’s a beautiful man , I drew him while he was asleep one night , he hasn’t seen it yet . But I’ll show him one day . Again thanks 😎
Very helpful information very clear and easy to 'digest'! Thanks for sharing. As per the suggestion requested I would say: -the back. Mainly in the scapula area, both lean and fat, I find confusing as it changes a lot with all the movement. -the forearm. it is also a bit confusing with the rotation and all the shapes changing from posture to posture.
I wish I'd had your insights when I was doing life drawing 40 years ago. My professor kept pushing me not to just do outlines of the figure but to visually draw the muscle masses and the bony prominences - it took me about a year and a half to understand what he was talking about. But pointing out the fat pads makes all the difference! I knew the bony prominences of the cheekbone and jawline but I couldn't figure the soft bumps in between those and the septum area. Now it makes sense! I had also been a surgical scrub nurse prior, so I knew anatomy but hadn't put these bits together until your excellent video - actually the video of the 5 visual rhythms got me started - like turning on a light bulb! 😮😊 Thank you sir! 😏🩻📖✏️ Looking forward to your ebooks!
Hey thanks! Glad you found it helpful. Yes it’s definitely difficult to convey visual information through dialogue and instruction which is why I like these types of visuals.
More awesome straight talk: I took your figure sculpting course at Proko. Thanks! It was brass tacks wonderful!! I recommend it to all. A course on sculpting forearms( +\- hands and arms) in action positions would rock my world! Even if it’s limited to only 2 poses: 1) bent elbow arm supinated with forward bent wrist and claw hand, and 2) straight arm with hyper-pronated forearm, with back bent wrist and wide extended fingers. These 2 positions would be instructive by accentuating tendons of flexor anatomy of the arm and forearm and hand in the first pose , and anatomy of extensor muscles and tendons / traveling muscle and tendons (BRLS, ECRL) in the second pose. Sculpting both of these positions covers both ends of the functional anatomical spectrum, as well as repositioning the traveling muscles to the two most extreme positions. I would totally take that course, especially if you could provide instructions on how to create that specific armature for each pose in order to add on muscle groups instructionally, if possible. Since most figurative sculpture shows the hands the face sometimes the wrist and forearm, even if the rest of the body is clothed, , this difficult region is sort of the missing piece.
Hey great suggestion. I’ll see if I can include something along those lines in the upcoming hand sculpting course I’m working on. No guarantees but I will try to include it if there’s time. Thanks again!
This knowledge upped my portraits in a Hugh way. This together with the Reilley method, which to me Seems to fit well with accounting for fat pads. Try the book Form of head and neck (anatomy for Sculptors), has plenty of dat pad diagrams too!
Any plans to make your books available as print on demand from Amazon? Just found your channel. Great content. I draw with pencil and ink, but your sculpture background is so helpful. Thanks AJK!
I have looked into it but it requires quite a bit of formatting and little profit margin. I may still do it possibly combining the make and female figure ebooks.
Not only is he incredibly intelligent an amazing artist what is quite the beautiful work of art himself those arms I mean wow you must be in the gym 24/7 I bet that really helps with sculpting and using your hands
I'm now nearly a master of fat anatomy because I noticed *NO ONE COVERED FAT* and skin's role in how we look. It's kind of bizarre.
I can only think of one good book by Morpho and a few Anatomy For Sculptors images that even talk about face fat pads and butt fat pads in grown up detail.
Yes they are definitely not as talked about as they should be. They effect the forms of the face far more than the facial muscles (unless the muscles are flexed in an expression).
I think it's due to how art anatomy formed. Fat decomposes first, so Ie it was easy to get hold of skull for reference, but soft and squishy parts, not so much.
@@PLKinka This is likely true, but many of the old masters were insanely good at muscle and the like. And could use live models. And many pre-historic European artworks from southern and northern European, and east to west as well were based on plump women. Focusing on breast, butt and stomach fat. Which they seemed to find very appealing as it comes up over and over again.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say there's something else going on there that may have to do with newer beauty standards or something of the like and perhaps "class" having an influence over what we choose to even learn. On top of it being harder perhaps to get a model for fat than a skull.
Ears! and chin/neck shadowing. Ears are so individual and fascinating and the setting out the relationship between the ears and the jawline and the neck and their respective shadows are eluding me at the moment.
Great suggestion! You may like this video. ua-cam.com/video/TvM6zGvCWJ4/v-deo.htmlsi=35TB1h3CTPgGXRD5 it’s for sculptors but has a lot of info for all artists.
Amazing. I'm a struggling self taught portrait artist and I've never seen this information anywhere. Thanks. This is so helpful.
Yeah it's definitely not talked about enough and hopefully this will help portrait artists see these useful features in the future.
This is so amazingly helpful!!! I hope you include some female face fat pad diagrams in your female ebook. Thanks for sharing your talent and knowledge with us! ❤
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful. There will definitely be some diagrams of these in the female ebook.
wow, this kind of videos do be rare. berry awesome
Great information for identifying what we are looking at. This really helps! Thanks.
Thanks! Yes it was definitely eye opening when I saw these for the first time.
Extremely helpful! I've been having a hard time with the ear
Really love this kind of on point guidance videos
Thanks!
Wow thanks!
Christmas it's early this year! So many fantastic videos 🤩 I'll buy the male version at the end of the month and the female one as soon as it launched 💪 Thank you Andrew. You are such an inspiration to all of us 🙏💪Shout out to your triceps 😅 they were making a cameo on this one for sure 😅
😂 thanks!
Hey glad I found you. I just got your male ebook , I’ll go over it this weekend as I’m working now . I’m excited! Thanks
Hey thanks! There’s also the female one that I recently finished. I hope you find it useful!
@@AndrewJosephKeith I saw that and yep picking it up too👍
@@AndrewJosephKeith by the way I want to thank you for the “ modest “ body art book . My husband is very sensitive to complete nudity so I’m able to still study , and keep him happy. I don’t know why he’s that way , he’s a beautiful man , I drew him while he was asleep one night , he hasn’t seen it yet . But I’ll show him one day . Again thanks 😎
Very helpful information very clear and easy to 'digest'! Thanks for sharing.
As per the suggestion requested I would say:
-the back. Mainly in the scapula area, both lean and fat, I find confusing as it changes a lot with all the movement.
-the forearm. it is also a bit confusing with the rotation and all the shapes changing from posture to posture.
Great lesson.
I wish I'd had your insights when I was doing life drawing 40 years ago. My professor kept pushing me not to just do outlines of the figure but to visually draw the muscle masses and the bony prominences - it took me about a year and a half to understand what he was talking about. But pointing out the fat pads makes all the difference! I knew the bony prominences of the cheekbone and jawline but I couldn't figure the soft bumps in between those and the septum area. Now it makes sense! I had also been a surgical scrub nurse prior, so I knew anatomy but hadn't put these bits together until your excellent video - actually the video of the 5 visual rhythms got me started - like turning on a light bulb! 😮😊 Thank you sir! 😏🩻📖✏️ Looking forward to your ebooks!
Hey thanks! Glad you found it helpful. Yes it’s definitely difficult to convey visual information through dialogue and instruction which is why I like these types of visuals.
More awesome straight talk: I took your figure sculpting course at Proko. Thanks! It was brass tacks wonderful!! I recommend it to all.
A course on sculpting forearms( +\- hands and arms) in action positions would rock my world! Even if it’s limited to only 2 poses: 1) bent elbow arm supinated with forward bent wrist and claw hand, and 2) straight arm with hyper-pronated forearm, with back bent wrist and wide extended fingers. These 2 positions would be instructive by accentuating tendons of flexor anatomy of the arm and forearm and hand in the first pose , and anatomy of extensor muscles and tendons / traveling muscle and tendons (BRLS, ECRL) in the second pose. Sculpting both of these positions covers both ends of the functional anatomical spectrum, as well as repositioning the traveling muscles to the two most extreme positions. I would totally take that course, especially if you could provide instructions on how to create that specific armature for each pose in order to add on muscle groups instructionally, if possible. Since most figurative sculpture shows the hands the face sometimes the wrist and forearm, even if the rest of the body is clothed, , this difficult region is sort of the missing piece.
Hey great suggestion. I’ll see if I can include something along those lines in the upcoming hand sculpting course I’m working on. No guarantees but I will try to include it if there’s time. Thanks again!
This knowledge upped my portraits in a Hugh way. This together with the Reilley method, which to me Seems to fit well with accounting for fat pads. Try the book Form of head and neck (anatomy for Sculptors), has plenty of dat pad diagrams too!
*fat pad
thank you so much for this! very informative
You’re welcome! Hopefully people find it useful.
Thank you so much for this! 👌🏽
You’re welcome! Glad you found it useful
Any plans to make your books available as print on demand from Amazon? Just found your channel. Great content. I draw with pencil and ink, but your sculpture background is so helpful. Thanks AJK!
I have looked into it but it requires quite a bit of formatting and little profit margin. I may still do it possibly combining the make and female figure ebooks.
Not only is he incredibly intelligent an amazing artist what is quite the beautiful work of art himself those arms I mean wow you must be in the gym 24/7 I bet that really helps with sculpting and using your hands
😂 I sculpt clay AND my body. 💪
Thank you so much for this video!! 👍
Gran información para el artista...muchas gracias 🎉 desde Callao Perú...por favor más información respecto al rostro 👍
Yeah - great information - thanks man
No problem!
Amazing video, content and explanation. You hero! Many thanks
Thanks!
Do you have one for color zones?
Central forehead fat pad is the name of my Egg Punk band
These vids are very cool. Thanks for doing them
Awesome!
Jeffrey R Holland!? Awesome 👍👍👍
Haha had to throw him in because he’s definitely got impressive jowls.
I really struggling when I try to sculpt jaw line
Ah ha these are the "pieces" from Loomis "Fun with a pencil" thanks.
bro can you teach me sculpting
Yes. www.proko.com/course/figure-sculpting-fundamentals/overview?af=d0900ec7
I always thought they were muscles and not fat pads. lol
Yeah the muscles don’t quite follow the surface forms as much as these fat pads though they do in some places like around the nodes of the mouth.
Awesome🩷 Maybe also videos of fat pads throughout the body