I am looking forward the the 4L versions. Kegland said they expected to start rolling those out around the first of 2023. For me, the 4L size will be great for kegging 1 gallon batches or for taking along beer to a event. My big question is lifespan. If you have to replace them every few years, then the cost savings can quickly disappear. I do love this 8L size though. I have several of the 10L Torpedo kegs and love doing either small batches or split batches. Thanks for the review!
I agree totally. Ive got similar but far less protective 5L PET kegs that are at least 7 years old and are still going strong after much use. I often use these for test batches. The 4L from KL will replace them
I’m in Canada and when they were first previewed I expressed interest to a homebrew shop I’m friendly with and they ordered some in. Got my three last week. Two will be dedicated for beer but the other one is for carbonated water. These are narrow enough that it can fit on my fridge door alongside a co2 tank.
After doing some reading i get the impression that i could use a spunding valve with these for fermenting. Would love to try the shake&brew concept from the DrHans-channel with these.
I just bought 4 with a tapping head along with an extra body and silicon elbow since I have many 1881 universal disconnects. This size allows me to fit an extra 3 of these with 1 corny and an all rounder into my keezer. These are a perfect size for me to pressure transfer to when I want to brew and need my pressure fermentor/unitank without wasting the volume of CO2 to move to a corny. It took me seconds to see the utility of these once I discovered them and ordered that day.
I also pressure transfer. I will relish the fact that I can see it filling up. Something I can't do with corner kegs. However, my Beersmith recipes usually come out with almost the exact volume. We will see...
I havent made a beer in over a year, due to work schedule. I picked two of these up for 30$ each 😂 and thinking of getting two more. I think they will do great to carbonate my wife's prosecco and mead that has been sitting for over a year in carboy 😊 Have 6 carboys of wine and Flanders red and brett beer thay i made back in 2021 that i havent had time to bottle/keg. 😂 How quickly time flies!!!!
I've just bought one to try out. I would be really interested in a 5 to 10 litre version that's shorter and wider so it fits easily into an unmodified household refrigerator.
Hi, this looks really great. I have not invested in any keg system yet, I only have a 5 Gallon pressure barrel to serve real ales but nothing on the pressurrised side of things to serve lagers, and other highly carbonated styles. My question is: what equipment do I need to serve the beer from the beer line? And same question to pressure CO2 in it?
@@DavidHeathHomebrew Thank you! Budget question aside, would you recommend the 5L MiniKeg Party Kit over the 8L Oxebar? (both from Kegland as I'm sure you know)
These are absolutely game changing kegs and I’ve been after some for quite a while now but they are impossible to get in Ireland. They are available in Kegland’s Aliexpress store but they charge €198.08 delivery! Now I know that Kegland does this to protect retailers which is perfectly fine but perhaps they should reconsider for those of us who live in countries that have poor Kegland distribution. Of course we could buy them from mainland Europe but the shipping cost kills us every time….
@@ArfurDaly I contacted them for some other Kegland products and they said that they would order them but never did. They have very few Kegland items and I don't see them expanding the range...
Looks like a great option for budget kegging, something I can get behind! Would you happen to know where to get these outside of Australia? I have looked at Keglands official retailers in Europe, but haven't found one that carries these yet.
I'm hanging for the 4L version, most kits and a lot of recipes aim for 23L, 19 in the keg and the rest in a 4L keg I can sit in the fridge? yes please!!
This looks fantastic. Waiting for it to come to India! Hopefully soon. Only question I had when using it in the vertical mode, when the amount of beer reduces, will it become too top-heavy (resulting in it falling / becoming unstable) seeing that the body of the bottle itself is very light, and the tapping head and the gas / liquid lines will not have enough weight to counterbalance? Thank you.
Thanks for the video, David! I run through all the comments and still I've just one question: can I force carbonate my beer in this Keg? Or It's mandatory to referment it just like if I bottled it?
I just bought two of them - They would be ideal for lagering beer for a couple of weeks in my kegerator. I use a Kegland Series X kegerator, and I am fairly sure that I could fit 9 of them inside (rotated as needed over time). I normally make 2.5-gallon batches, as I can't lift a full fermenter for a 5-gallon batch. I have adjusted my Beersmith batch size in a test profile to 1.9 gallons - we will see how the new (smaller) batches work out. FWIW, I brew every Saturday (rain or shine) indoors on a countertop...
Hi, im suffering with the PRV leaking. I switched one out for the PRV pin from a fermzilla and this works fine. Ive seen comments about PTFE tape. Would this need to be food grade and just wrapped around the pin from the PRV? Would food grade silicon lube help as an alternative? Many thanks
Great video! I recently picked up one of these and it worked great for the 1 gallon dry hopped cider I made. My only feedback is that for beer I typically brew 3 gallon(12L) batches so this might be a bit small. I would really like if they made these in 12L. I think my plan is going to be to carbonate it a standard keg with a carb-stone lid, transfer to the Oxebar and then bottle remaining beer.
How much luck have people had serving it laying down in the regular fridge? It tends to roll all over the fridge unless you make little feet / doorstops for them. I also felt I needed to remove the pressure release valve and replace it with just a soda bottle cap as that can leak when the top is filled since it is on its side.
Question: can you fill one with beer presurise and put a normal cap on for storing, than when the previous kegg is empty replace that one with this one after inserting the hose etc. Or is it better to store it as a set with that hose and cupling set already in it..?
You will need to add further c02 pressure usually for pressure transfer. There are no issues around storage with a cap, fill to the top. Personally I bought more tapping heads so that there is less fuss and you can easily then carbonate using co2.
I have a few of these and have had them in use for a month or so. I've observed very slow gas leaks when hand torqued. You can get a socket on them, but I'm worried about damaging the tapping head. The plastic on plastic seal clearly isn't good enough.
Folks I have a question... Scenario is this... I brew 23L. I have 3 Oxebar gegs and ONE tapping head with 3 spare caps i cold crash and decant from a pressurised fermenter into the 3 Oxebar kegs. can I just seal with the 3 bottle caps and when I want to dispense open, insert tapping assembly, repressurise with gas and serve ?
If you fill them to the brim and then cap then you should be ok for shorter periods but ultimately if I am filling then I would have a tapping head on each for oxygen purging to maximise the beers life.
I use mine constantly and have not had leaks. If you can figure out where the leak is then you can solve this easily enough or simply cover all areas. PTFE tape is also very cheap and yet useful 🍻🍻🍻
I have an oxebar keg and the issues i'm seeing is that the keg doesn't do a great job at holding pressure. even when all the fittings are securely tightened and checked with star san for leaks. Not sure if CO2 if diffusing out through the plastic or the disconnects. Curious if you've come across this issue and i'm not sure Id be happy serving from this keg if its slowly losing CO2, tank would be gone quickly. at least would be good for bottling vessel
Sure this is a great product but it's very difficult top have kegland product in europe. Brexit has closed many distributors to us, I hope one day we will have someone who sell all kegland product in Europe. Please reply if you read this message and know european distributor ;)
Its not so bad, it does depend on where you are though. It seems you are in England, so try Angel Homebrew and Brew, tap, keg. Both are easy to find via a google search by name.
If these could be sold with a cheap regulator for disposable CO2 cartridges, this could be a fun way to give a gallon or two of beer to a friend so they can enjoy your beer on-tap in their own fridge. Or for bringing to events. The regulator could be set from the factory to a reasonable serving pressure, removing adjustability to keep costs down. I currently use a 2.5gal Torpedo keg for events, but filling it requires constant attention to avoid getting liquid in my spunding valve, and because it is opaque, I have to use a scale. These are transparent!
@@DavidHeathHomebrew That was my suspicion, too, since the nylon should act as a binding layer. But I'd like to some industry data. We could use a dozen of these if they can be proven to be free of microplastic.
A great product, but I've had 4 separate PRV caps (2 with initial purchase and 2 replacements) that slowly leak, even as low as 5psi. Anyone else experience leaky PRV caps?
The handle is not easy to use because it is not big enough. When cleaning the keg you need to make sure that is does not suck a vacuum when during or the keg will be destroyed!
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Great Video. Thanks so much for doing a review for us!
Cheers guys, thanks for the great gear 🍻🍻
Finally got my hands on these bad boys. I had 4 turn up, I've used 2 already, they are awesome! I would recommend to anyone
Thanks for this. I've seen these on various websites and I'm curious. I'd be excited to see a 12L size.
12L would be cool. 4L is next 🍻🍻🍻
Ordered these from Australia. They sit in my chest freezer just fine. Great lightweight kegs.
Great to hear 🍻🍻🍻
I am looking forward the the 4L versions. Kegland said they expected to start rolling those out around the first of 2023. For me, the 4L size will be great for kegging 1 gallon batches or for taking along beer to a event. My big question is lifespan. If you have to replace them every few years, then the cost savings can quickly disappear. I do love this 8L size though. I have several of the 10L Torpedo kegs and love doing either small batches or split batches. Thanks for the review!
I agree totally. Ive got similar but far less protective 5L PET kegs that are at least 7 years old and are still going strong after much use. I often use these for test batches. The 4L from KL will replace them
I would love to see a 6L size as my brew batch size tends to be a bit more than 5L. Can you see any downside to kegging a 5L batch into an 8L keg?
You will use a bit more gas, thats it really.
Finally! The perfect Xmas gift for my buddies. Please come to Canada.
Yes, nice idea. I know they are in the US, so hopefully Canada is close.
I’m in Canada and when they were first previewed I expressed interest to a homebrew shop I’m friendly with and they ordered some in. Got my three last week. Two will be dedicated for beer but the other one is for carbonated water. These are narrow enough that it can fit on my fridge door alongside a co2 tank.
Great 🍻🍻🍻
After doing some reading i get the impression that i could use a spunding valve with these for fermenting. Would love to try the shake&brew concept from the DrHans-channel with these.
Yes, I cannot see why not!
I just bought 4 with a tapping head along with an extra body and silicon elbow since I have many 1881 universal disconnects. This size allows me to fit an extra 3 of these with 1 corny and an all rounder into my keezer. These are a perfect size for me to pressure transfer to when I want to brew and need my pressure fermentor/unitank without wasting the volume of CO2 to move to a corny. It took me seconds to see the utility of these once I discovered them and ordered that day.
Cheers John, great to hear 🍻🍻
I also pressure transfer. I will relish the fact that I can see it filling up. Something I can't do with corner kegs. However, my Beersmith recipes usually come out with almost the exact volume. We will see...
Yes, the see through nature is useful for sure.
I havent made a beer in over a year, due to work schedule. I picked two of these up for 30$ each 😂 and thinking of getting two more. I think they will do great to carbonate my wife's prosecco and mead that has been sitting for over a year in carboy 😊
Have 6 carboys of wine and Flanders red and brett beer thay i made back in 2021 that i havent had time to bottle/keg. 😂 How quickly time flies!!!!
Yes, these work for a wide range of beverages.
I've just bought one to try out. I would be really interested in a 5 to 10 litre version that's shorter and wider so it fits easily into an unmodified household refrigerator.
Cheers Marcus 🍻🍻🍻
Hi, this looks really great. I have not invested in any keg system yet, I only have a 5 Gallon pressure barrel to serve real ales but nothing on the pressurrised side of things to serve lagers, and other highly carbonated styles. My question is: what equipment do I need to serve the beer from the beer line? And same question to pressure CO2 in it?
Hi Lionel, you will need a beer line with bull lock and a picnic tap or better. Also a co2 line with ball lock plus a regulator and co2.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew Thank you! Budget question aside, would you recommend the 5L MiniKeg Party Kit over the 8L Oxebar? (both from Kegland as I'm sure you know)
Thank you, Mr. Heath! As a Norway-based brewer too, may I ask where you got a hold of these?
These will be releasing in Norway very very soon. I got mine from the manufacturer ahead of release.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew Thank you, looking forward to it!
Cheers 🍻🍻🍻
These are absolutely game changing kegs and I’ve been after some for quite a while now but they are impossible to get in Ireland. They are available in Kegland’s Aliexpress store but they charge €198.08 delivery! Now I know that Kegland does this to protect retailers which is perfectly fine but perhaps they should reconsider for those of us who live in countries that have poor Kegland distribution. Of course we could buy them from mainland Europe but the shipping cost kills us every time….
They sure are. Should be in England shortly. Either Beer,tap keg or Angel Homebrew will have them first.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew Brexit + Duty + Shipping makes it not worth it. But maybe I could pick a couple up if I visit the UK in the future.
That is sad to hear
geterbrewed in Antrim are a Kegland dealer, might be worth enquiring there.
@@ArfurDaly I contacted them for some other Kegland products and they said that they would order them but never did. They have very few Kegland items and I don't see them expanding the range...
I only ever brew 1 gallon batches, so it is music to my ears that a decent and affordable keg option may soon be accessible for 4 litres.
Awesome 🍻🍻 Cheers 🍻🍻
I could use several of these. This looks to be a much more cost-effective solution for serving small batches than traditional stainless kegs.
Much much cheaper yes.
Looks like a great option for budget kegging, something I can get behind! Would you happen to know where to get these outside of Australia? I have looked at Keglands official retailers in Europe, but haven't found one that carries these yet.
They are literally around the corner now. Some have them already, more next week and beyond.
I'm hanging for the 4L version, most kits and a lot of recipes aim for 23L, 19 in the keg and the rest in a 4L keg I can sit in the fridge? yes please!!
Sounds good :)
@@DavidHeathHomebrew I now have 4 x 4L oxebar kegs, they are awesome! I'm planning on getting their 19L version in Feb when it comes out too
@NoMusiciansInMusicAnymore They sure are, I am testing these myself currently 🍻🍻😎
I wish I could use a floating dip tube.
Yes, that would be nice for sure 🍻🍻🍻
This looks fantastic. Waiting for it to come to India! Hopefully soon. Only question I had when using it in the vertical mode, when the amount of beer reduces, will it become too top-heavy (resulting in it falling / becoming unstable) seeing that the body of the bottle itself is very light, and the tapping head and the gas / liquid lines will not have enough weight to counterbalance? Thank you.
Great, thanks. These are very stabile until you are close to the finish but will not fall over on their own.
Thanks for the video, David!
I run through all the comments and still I've just one question:
can I force carbonate my beer in this Keg? Or It's mandatory to referment it just like if I bottled it?
Hi, no problem. Yes, you sure can 🍻🍻🍻
Thanks!
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I just bought two of them - They would be ideal for lagering beer for a couple of weeks in my kegerator. I use a Kegland Series X kegerator, and I am fairly sure that I could fit 9 of them inside (rotated as needed over time). I normally make 2.5-gallon batches, as I can't lift a full fermenter for a 5-gallon batch. I have adjusted my Beersmith batch size in a test profile to 1.9 gallons - we will see how the new (smaller) batches work out. FWIW, I brew every Saturday (rain or shine) indoors on a countertop...
Great to hear Will. Lots of uses for sure. Enjoy 🍻🍻🍻
thank you, love your help.
Cheers 🍻🍻🍻
Hi, im suffering with the PRV leaking. I switched one out for the PRV pin from a fermzilla and this works fine. Ive seen comments about PTFE tape. Would this need to be food grade and just wrapped around the pin from the PRV? Would food grade silicon lube help as an alternative? Many thanks
Yes, there was a bad batch of the PRV that are part of the tapping head. Switching it out for a new one will fix it 🍻🍻
Great video! I recently picked up one of these and it worked great for the 1 gallon dry hopped cider I made. My only feedback is that for beer I typically brew 3 gallon(12L) batches so this might be a bit small. I would really like if they made these in 12L. I think my plan is going to be to carbonate it a standard keg with a carb-stone lid, transfer to the Oxebar and then bottle remaining beer.
Great to hear Michael. The 4L is coming, one of each has your 12 :)
ha! Considering it!
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How much luck have people had serving it laying down in the regular fridge? It tends to roll all over the fridge unless you make little feet / doorstops for them. I also felt I needed to remove the pressure release valve and replace it with just a soda bottle cap as that can leak when the top is filled since it is on its side.
Yes, you will need to wedge it 🍻🍻
How about 23L & 19L versions? With the 4L version coming out, you'd be fully covered for single batches!
Could be down the road. Right now its the 8L and 4L
Definitely will give these a go when the local stores in Holland will pick them up
Try Unibrew, I believe they will be the first with stock.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew Not yet but I will keep en eye on them! Thanks
Cheers 🍻🍻🍻
Question: can you fill one with beer presurise and put a normal cap on for storing, than when the previous kegg is empty replace that one with this one after inserting the hose etc. Or is it better to store it as a set with that hose and cupling set already in it..?
You will need to add further c02 pressure usually for pressure transfer. There are no issues around storage with a cap, fill to the top. Personally I bought more tapping heads so that there is less fuss and you can easily then carbonate using co2.
Thanks, that is some interesting gear.
Cheers John 🍻🍻
I have a few of these and have had them in use for a month or so. I've observed very slow gas leaks when hand torqued. You can get a socket on them, but I'm worried about damaging the tapping head. The plastic on plastic seal clearly isn't good enough.
I would suggest getting that tapping head checked where you bought it. Ive not had any issues personally.
These will be great for travel
For sure 🍻🍻🍻
great video
Thank you, much appreciated :) 🍻🍻
these kegs are a game changer-due to price point - cant wait for smaller ones to come out so they fit more easily in fridges & chilli bins.
Sure are 🍻🍻🍻 Cheers Tim
It will blow up like the rest of the kegland garbage
Really struggling to get my 3 to hold pressure and not leak co2. Have tried loose cap tight cap and in-between any ideas?
You should talk to the store where you bought them. Try changing the caps would be my first suggestion
Folks I have a question... Scenario is this... I brew 23L. I have 3 Oxebar gegs and ONE tapping head with 3 spare caps i cold crash and decant from a pressurised fermenter into the 3 Oxebar kegs. can I just seal with the 3 bottle caps and when I want to dispense open, insert tapping assembly, repressurise with gas and serve ?
If you fill them to the brim and then cap then you should be ok for shorter periods but ultimately if I am filling then I would have a tapping head on each for oxygen purging to maximise the beers life.
i have 3 of them. All leaking gas very slowly. The PRVs are faulty and not easy to seal caps every time. great product but the cap is headache.
I use mine constantly and have not had leaks. If you can figure out where the leak is then you can solve this easily enough or simply cover all areas. PTFE tape is also very cheap and yet useful 🍻🍻🍻
Ferment small 1-2L batches in them as test runs before doing a full batch?
Sure or more. The 4L would be useful too
I have an oxebar keg and the issues i'm seeing is that the keg doesn't do a great job at holding pressure. even when all the fittings are securely tightened and checked with star san for leaks. Not sure if CO2 if diffusing out through the plastic or the disconnects. Curious if you've come across this issue and i'm not sure Id be happy serving from this keg if its slowly losing CO2, tank would be gone quickly. at least would be good for bottling vessel
Hi Dan, then it could be that yours is faulty, as this isnt the normal experience. I suggest you reach out to your retailer for support 🍻🍻
12 litres would seem a good volume. This is the minimum size I can run on my Grainfather and I use this for experimental beer batches
12 would be nice, thanks for sharing 🍻🍻🍻
Yes to a 4L size
For sure 🍻🍻🍻
Hi David! Are these already widely available in Europe?
And if so where?
They are being released across Europe right now. You will see them in stores from as early as this week.
Ask your local store first, some countries will see these faster than others as always.
Sure this is a great product but it's very difficult top have kegland product in europe. Brexit has closed many distributors to us, I hope one day we will have someone who sell all kegland product in Europe. Please reply if you read this message and know european distributor ;)
Its not so bad, it does depend on where you are though. It seems you are in England, so try Angel Homebrew and Brew, tap, keg. Both are easy to find via a google search by name.
Keg is ok but tap part is nightmare. Everytime I screw it the beer tube disconnects and it wont work.
I suggest fitting it whilst the ball lock is screwed in, this is how ive set up all mine without any problems.
If these could be sold with a cheap regulator for disposable CO2 cartridges, this could be a fun way to give a gallon or two of beer to a friend so they can enjoy your beer on-tap in their own fridge. Or for bringing to events.
The regulator could be set from the factory to a reasonable serving pressure, removing adjustability to keep costs down.
I currently use a 2.5gal Torpedo keg for events, but filling it requires constant attention to avoid getting liquid in my spunding valve, and because it is opaque, I have to use a scale. These are transparent!
Take a look at Keglands Core mini 360 🍻🍻🍻
if you're giving them the beer the least they could do is pay for their own dispensing
Agreed!
Do these allow microplastics to leech into the liquid?
As I understand it, no they do not, due to the materials used.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew That was my suspicion, too, since the nylon should act as a binding layer. But I'd like to some industry data. We could use a dozen of these if they can be proven to be free of microplastic.
You could contact Kegland directly by email for that.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew I have confirmed independently that they leach microplastics.
@newunderthesun7353 Im very sure that Kegland would disagree on that
A great product, but I've had 4 separate PRV caps (2 with initial purchase and 2 replacements) that slowly leak, even as low as 5psi. Anyone else experience leaky PRV caps?
I have heard some say this, so its not unheard of.
The handle is not easy to use because it is not big enough. When cleaning the keg you need to make sure that is does not suck a vacuum when during or the keg will be destroyed!
You must have very big hands. Yes, you do need to not pour out too fast when cleaning but this is easy enough I feel.
It's a nice economical idea, but I wonder about the lifespan. Reuse of PET is advised against, so I'm also worried about the possible health hazards.
I think the alcohol is the health hazard
I suggest you contact Kegland directly about that, I am sure they will put your mind at rest.
Where can i buy in europe?
This is not an easy one to follow because the stock moves out very quickly. I suggest a general google search in your country and surrounding nations.
And are these in the UK yet?!
I am not sure. Check with both Angel Homebrew and Brew, tap , Keg. They are the most likely first stockists.
Unfortunately not yet
I suggest emailing them for an ETA. They are likely very close.
I don’t think they’re anywhere yet except Australia
That is changing very very soon though. US and Europe
Why not use the 9.45L Soda kegs?
Not something that is available worldwide, I am not familiar with these personally.
hope they arive to norway soon
They already did but they seemed to sell out the same day everywhere. Hopefully back soon.
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Cheers 🍻🍻🍻
Still can't buy these in the UK
As soon as they come into stock they sell out. I suggest reservation.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew I can't see where they are even listed for sale in the UK
Try Brewtapkeg or Angel Homebrew.
Neither have them listed on their websites. Not even as coming soon or an ETA
Send them an email 🍻🍻