As an 09'er, I'm embarrassed to say that I only realized today that your rank isn't your value as a human being, or something to be ashamed about. It's just a means of having you fight other people that are around your level, until you learn how to deal with the BS that players of that level (including yourself) usually do. I know that sounds obvious, but I always felt ashamed of being low rank and would just give up or never play ranked/online at all to avoid ever having to bear the shame of being low ranked lol. After spending 70+ hours in the game according to Steam (WT mode and some occasional rooms with friends), I finally found the courage to do my placements and got Iron 5. But for some reason, I feel...good about it? Because now I understand that the matches I'll have are the ones I'm supposed to have. The lessons I need to learn are much more fundamental and less abstract at this level, and at the same time I don't have to feel guilty about wasting a far better player's time. Now that I've found that realization, I feel like Ryu finally shaking off the satsui lol. I can finally, actually learn fighting games "for real" now 🤣 Sick music choice with the Tekken Tag Tournament ending OST! Thanks for the vids as always Andy
Congrats on your choice! I noticed the more you worry about your rank the more you lose and also the less you enjoy the game. Just focus on improving and having fun and the rank will go up naturally.
You're not correct about drive rush first button being negative, it is often plus. DR basically adds frame advantage regardless of hit or block. So if you're gonna contest after blocking you really shouldn't do it on the first button, the next attacks will have normal frame data, though.
@@BIGHEADjr51 The buttons most character use go into DR combos, those are often plus on block on DR. As in, most of the time. This even includes DR command normals that a re overhead, specially the ones that are safe outside of DR.
started off as iron (oof) now 100 points away from silver, i feel tilt though working on my mental game, i feel pressure but still learning the fundamentals, heres hoping i can at least become decent playing Kimberly.
@@ismaeljrp1 well to answer the question, the only fighters I’ve taken semi serious was smash ultimate, which I didn’t really have a roadmap, going to sf6 and it being my first traditional fighters ended up in platinum before the release of Rashid, as Kimberly, ended up transitioning over to tekken 8 and the experience and mentality I got from SF6 translated well, now I’m in Fujin.
@@Qrowz thanks for the response. I only played casually older traditional fighters SF3, Tekken 5. And it’s been like 12 years since I’ve really played them. Was trying to get an idea for acclimation to sf6 as I’m going to start it.
I've started from the bottom. Rookie 3. It's been a steep hill learning hitbox AND classic at the same time, but I'm plat 3 now. These vids are what i need.
If Ken is throwing raw Dragonlash to get in and start pressure, Manon can use 3HK to beat it and swap sides (or trade with it if your timing is off). The button also beats (or trades with) a lot of other airborn-at-ground-level moves, such as Ken's Tatsumaki Senpukyaku and Marisa's Phalanx. I'm new to FG, but it feels like people may be sleeping on the utility of this admittedly awkward command normal.
I love your channel because seeing you being close to my skill level (just made it to Platinum 2) having the same struggles is really entertaining and insightful. I‘m also still baffled about some of the one trick ponies in Platinum. I still lose to more of them then I should (lol) but some are so blatantly one dimensional that I‘m losing confidence that me being at that rank does really mean anything. Maybe it means I really also belong there cause I‘m a scrub… as you hinted towards 😂😂😂
Unfortunately, no matter the ranks, the gimmicks never stop. The flowcharts get a tiny bit better, but the one tricks never stop doing it. It's part of the ranked experience
I'm at Gold 2 or 3 with all of my mains and I'm just losing the drive to push through because it takes so loooong. Sitting over 50% win rate, so I'm not struggling, but legit one rank in gold will take an entire play session of several hours. Thinking about how there's no win-streak bonus in Platinum and up just fills me with dread.
I kept pushing and am working my way into Gold 5. I would probably be Platinum already, but I take time off between sessions. I started to incorporate Drive Rush more into my gameplan and have seen a lot of success with that.
You can jab Ken out of Dragon Lash Kick and get a Forced Knockdown punish (big damage) not that easy, but possible. Gratz on Diamond. I got there today too with Edmond.
First SF game I ever played especially online and made my way from Rookie to Silver 3. Lol all our roads are different but progress is progress. Shooting for Platinum now
You are playing Manon, there is almost never a reason to drive rush in Neutral or use it in combos, since her best dmg option is just pulling people in and then throw em.
Just yesterday I learned a few oki setups for Manon. For after medium tatsu (balerina kick) and after hit grab. After tatsu you can raw rush into 5HP for meaty, and it ain't punishable by DI. You can block or DI back though HP ain't special cancelable. Rush 5HP links into 5LK. Can take it from there to loop the pressure. Or raw rush into grab, which does lose to wake up jab. For hit grab can raw rush with 2MP for meatie, other part is essentially same. Funnily enough, raw rush on oki can mess up opponent's wake up invincible input. Momochi explained it in depth, I just didn't quite understand the mechanics.
@@azn6k Raw as in not cancel drive rush. Drive rush the moment you get up after landing the balerina kick version. And immediately 5HP. You barely recover in time to block or DI back their wake up impact. Be careful though. Doing DI too early gives you the second hit of HP target combo and you get blown up. Also, my bad, light version hits low and you're right on top of them. I'll edit my first comment.
Too much truth in this video. I’m a low diamond high plat with 1 character and plat with 3 others all with over 250 matches each. I noticed that rotating characters greatly helped me understand the game mechanics better. For example i use Juri, you will be hard pressed not to learn and use drive rush. With Manon, I get to practice command grab distance and timing. With Ryu, he helped me hone in on counters and close/mid spacing. Practicing the other three characters helped me become more rounded with my main JP but in the end, I’m still trying to break my character habits and form better setups/reversals against opponents gimmicks
I started to main Jaime because I wanted to punish myself because I couldn’t master cammy and I don’t have sagat to pull back up my feet like in the past. Having fun with the worst character and boding platinums as a iron rank 😂
I picked beginner to start with. I mean, i had played some sf v before. But i was not a highly skilled player. Was like gold, i think. But i thought, i dont want to rank myself too high and then get screwed over and over again. So i finally started at iron. Even though i won almost all my placement games. I completely wiped the floor with my enemies. So i rushed up, do to win gamestreaks to gold, where i finally lost a game. In just a few days, i was platinum 1. That's where i landed. I am plat 2 now, almost plat 3, but i have to grind really hard in plat. What i wanted to say is, just go lower rather than to high and get demotivated. Sooner or later, you will be placed where you belong
Something I've learned after getting Guile to low Plat is that I don't like playing as Guile and switched to Ken (lol). What's funny is that I entered high silver with Ken and have just been using Ken's one gimmick, the jinrai kicks. I washed all the players in silver and I'm in mid gold now and have now moved away from using that because people kinda figured out what to do. I'm just taking it slow now because I want to practice and get better and not really care about rank too much. There are specific situations I want to get better at rather than beating my opponents. I played SFV a lot but was only as good as mid gold, ranks in this game feel different and don't seem to directly translate. I think ranks in the lower area are going to be crazy all over the place because of the win streak bonuses. I also think the real game begins after you enter Platinum, because everyone is on the same playing field in terms of points and the grind becomes real. Random note: NGL I want capcom to buff Ken so I can stomp on people, not because he's bad or anything but because I like broken characters 😂. Make jinrai plus on block plz, thx.
oh, so scrub Juri's who play from fullscreen aren't as rare as I thought, huh. those that I met don't driverush though, they just try to DP you all the time. but the 2 gimmicks are kinda similar to me:D
I got to plat and thought i was stuck, suddenly in a week i got to PLAT 5, after a while your brain starts to see the patterns. Another factor is one thing i have noticed.. I play on XBOX, when i fight PC players most of them Counter Drive Impact almost every time and perfect parry is much more common. Not in XBOX, I suspect lots of people are cheating and get stuck in PLAT. I changed to XBOX players only and started winning more.
@@GrowthMindets yurr when they ask what your experience with Street Fighter is. Beginner, intermediate etc. I was confused at first too but then I remembered that
rank in this game's very inflated, u always win more LP than u lose. I've played complete garbage players who has no business being in diamond, yolo random supers, blanka ball spam and all of that.
I can’t decide if I should take my deejay to ranked yet, I chose intermediate because I was only super silver in sfv which I barely played, got put in gold 5 with ryu and beat many gold, a few plat and what I think was a legit diamond 😂, I’ve been obsessing over this game and trying to understand fighting games on every level so maybe in just two weeks im genuinely much better now idk?
As someone who had the same rank as you in SFV, and is now fighting my way through gold, yeah I do think SF5 silver is tougher that SF6 silver for sure.
@@Korinengamecorp problem with sfv was it was full of smurfs, i literally got to super silver in the last two weeks before sf6 after not playing it for nearly a year, i could never take that game seriously
Silver Ken [Modern] NOBODY FUCKIN' USES SWEEPS IN SILVER. I WIN SO MANY GAMES WITH (mostly) ONE MOVE IT IS NOT FAIR. I apologize for the caps but I can not stress that enough.
been climbing my manon since the game came out almost in diamond myself ur vids and idom always give me helpful tips keep up the great content !
I just got to Plat, I can't believe it!
As an 09'er, I'm embarrassed to say that I only realized today that your rank isn't your value as a human being, or something to be ashamed about. It's just a means of having you fight other people that are around your level, until you learn how to deal with the BS that players of that level (including yourself) usually do. I know that sounds obvious, but I always felt ashamed of being low rank and would just give up or never play ranked/online at all to avoid ever having to bear the shame of being low ranked lol.
After spending 70+ hours in the game according to Steam (WT mode and some occasional rooms with friends), I finally found the courage to do my placements and got Iron 5. But for some reason, I feel...good about it? Because now I understand that the matches I'll have are the ones I'm supposed to have. The lessons I need to learn are much more fundamental and less abstract at this level, and at the same time I don't have to feel guilty about wasting a far better player's time.
Now that I've found that realization, I feel like Ryu finally shaking off the satsui lol. I can finally, actually learn fighting games "for real" now 🤣
Sick music choice with the Tekken Tag Tournament ending OST! Thanks for the vids as always Andy
Congrats on your choice! I noticed the more you worry about your rank the more you lose and also the less you enjoy the game. Just focus on improving and having fun and the rank will go up naturally.
I can agree completely with this!!!
You're not correct about drive rush first button being negative, it is often plus. DR basically adds frame advantage regardless of hit or block. So if you're gonna contest after blocking you really shouldn't do it on the first button, the next attacks will have normal frame data, though.
ah ok
Well u said the word “often” So I mean he’s right still just not often lol
You’re often-ly wrong
@@BIGHEADjr51 The buttons most character use go into DR combos, those are often plus on block on DR. As in, most of the time. This even includes DR command normals that a re overhead, specially the ones that are safe outside of DR.
Yep! DR gives 4frames for the first move. For example Juris OH is -3 on block but if u DR into OH its +1
Just want to say as someone new to Street fighter this has been very helpful and motivational. Keep it up!
started off as iron (oof) now 100 points away from silver, i feel tilt though working on my mental game, i feel pressure but still learning the fundamentals, heres hoping i can at least become decent playing Kimberly.
Update: now finally gold after 7 days.
@@Qrowzdid you start iron cause of lack of experience or have you actually been playing fg for a while?
@@ismaeljrp1 well to answer the question, the only fighters I’ve taken semi serious was smash ultimate, which I didn’t really have a roadmap, going to sf6 and it being my first traditional fighters ended up in platinum before the release of Rashid, as Kimberly, ended up transitioning over to tekken 8 and the experience and mentality I got from SF6 translated well, now I’m in Fujin.
@@Qrowz thanks for the response. I only played casually older traditional fighters SF3, Tekken 5. And it’s been like 12 years since I’ve really played them. Was trying to get an idea for acclimation to sf6 as I’m going to start it.
Bro you’re videos have made my experience on SF6 so much better this is my first SF game, keep up your hard work
I've started from the bottom. Rookie 3. It's been a steep hill learning hitbox AND classic at the same time, but I'm plat 3 now. These vids are what i need.
congrats on getting there man i also realized your channel has a Perfect Blue pfp thats like my favorite anime movie of all time
I just hit 100 hours and I’m sitting in Diamond 4. Looking forward to continuing the grind!
If u reach Diamond one can u fall back into Platinum??
In 9 hrs ranked I went from silver to gold 4 (I think I was silver 3?) - videos like this has helped a lot
If Ken is throwing raw Dragonlash to get in and start pressure, Manon can use 3HK to beat it and swap sides (or trade with it if your timing is off).
The button also beats (or trades with) a lot of other airborn-at-ground-level moves, such as Ken's Tatsumaki Senpukyaku and Marisa's Phalanx.
I'm new to FG, but it feels like people may be sleeping on the utility of this admittedly awkward command normal.
It's an underutilized button from her.
As a ken main raw Dragonlash is risky. DI can usually punish it for a free combo and sometimes anti air can too.
I love your channel because seeing you being close to my skill level (just made it to Platinum 2) having the same struggles is really entertaining and insightful. I‘m also still baffled about some of the one trick ponies in Platinum. I still lose to more of them then I should (lol) but some are so blatantly one dimensional that I‘m losing confidence that me being at that rank does really mean anything. Maybe it means I really also belong there cause I‘m a scrub… as you hinted towards 😂😂😂
Unfortunately, no matter the ranks, the gimmicks never stop.
The flowcharts get a tiny bit better, but the one tricks never stop doing it.
It's part of the ranked experience
This was a good video.
Also, consider eq-ing and compressing your mic audio. You have a decent voice.
I've been dealing with dragonlash consistently with either reacting with DI, or doing preemptive neutral jumps in neutral.
I'm at Gold 2 or 3 with all of my mains and I'm just losing the drive to push through because it takes so loooong. Sitting over 50% win rate, so I'm not struggling, but legit one rank in gold will take an entire play session of several hours.
Thinking about how there's no win-streak bonus in Platinum and up just fills me with dread.
I kept pushing and am working my way into Gold 5. I would probably be Platinum already, but I take time off between sessions. I started to incorporate Drive Rush more into my gameplan and have seen a lot of success with that.
@@thefractalcactus wow. Your at gold 5 with no drive rush. Your not even using the game systems. Like playing COD and not using sprint.
You can jab Ken out of Dragon Lash Kick and get a Forced Knockdown punish (big damage) not that easy, but possible.
Gratz on Diamond. I got there today too with Edmond.
Gonna test It later, tried the hit grab. But tou need to be on point to react
Congrats
First SF game I ever played especially online and made my way from Rookie to Silver 3. Lol all our roads are different but progress is progress. Shooting for Platinum now
You are playing Manon, there is almost never a reason to drive rush in Neutral or use it in combos, since her best dmg option is just pulling people in and then throw em.
Man, i've been ground thrown out of hooligan as cammy. This game is wild
I wish her hooligan was better
Love your videos and relaxed demeanor
stuck on plat 1. gotta work it
How do you get the Frame counting for moves in matches?
Just yesterday I learned a few oki setups for Manon. For after medium tatsu (balerina kick) and after hit grab.
After tatsu you can raw rush into 5HP for meaty, and it ain't punishable by DI. You can block or DI back though HP ain't special cancelable. Rush 5HP links into 5LK. Can take it from there to loop the pressure. Or raw rush into grab, which does lose to wake up jab.
For hit grab can raw rush with 2MP for meatie, other part is essentially same.
Funnily enough, raw rush on oki can mess up opponent's wake up invincible input. Momochi explained it in depth, I just didn't quite understand the mechanics.
What do you mean by Raw Rush ? doing a dash straight after light tatsu and then press 5HP? or straight away going for 5HP?
@@azn6k Raw as in not cancel drive rush.
Drive rush the moment you get up after landing the balerina kick version. And immediately 5HP. You barely recover in time to block or DI back their wake up impact.
Be careful though. Doing DI too early gives you the second hit of HP target combo and you get blown up.
Also, my bad, light version hits low and you're right on top of them. I'll edit my first comment.
how do you get those numbers?
love this series
Are you playing any other games at the moment? or mainly focusing on sf6 at the moment?
Too much truth in this video.
I’m a low diamond high plat with 1 character and plat with 3 others all with over 250 matches each.
I noticed that rotating characters greatly helped me understand the game mechanics better. For example i use Juri, you will be hard pressed not to learn and use drive rush. With Manon, I get to practice command grab distance and timing. With Ryu, he helped me hone in on counters and close/mid spacing.
Practicing the other three characters helped me become more rounded with my main JP but in the end, I’m still trying to break my character habits and form better setups/reversals against opponents gimmicks
Do more of these
This game is so frustrating. I always choke in matches. Hard stuck in Gold 5. I know, I know “git gud”
I started to main Jaime because I wanted to punish myself because I couldn’t master cammy and I don’t have sagat to pull back up my feet like in the past. Having fun with the worst character and boding platinums as a iron rank 😂
I picked beginner to start with. I mean, i had played some sf v before. But i was not a highly skilled player. Was like gold, i think. But i thought, i dont want to rank myself too high and then get screwed over and over again. So i finally started at iron. Even though i won almost all my placement games. I completely wiped the floor with my enemies. So i rushed up, do to win gamestreaks to gold, where i finally lost a game. In just a few days, i was platinum 1. That's where i landed. I am plat 2 now, almost plat 3, but i have to grind really hard in plat. What i wanted to say is, just go lower rather than to high and get demotivated. Sooner or later, you will be placed where you belong
30 hours and I still haven’t chosen a main… I need help
Who do you like so far?
play who u like aesthetically and feel like fits u
Something I've learned after getting Guile to low Plat is that I don't like playing as Guile and switched to Ken (lol). What's funny is that I entered high silver with Ken and have just been using Ken's one gimmick, the jinrai kicks. I washed all the players in silver and I'm in mid gold now and have now moved away from using that because people kinda figured out what to do. I'm just taking it slow now because I want to practice and get better and not really care about rank too much. There are specific situations I want to get better at rather than beating my opponents. I played SFV a lot but was only as good as mid gold, ranks in this game feel different and don't seem to directly translate. I think ranks in the lower area are going to be crazy all over the place because of the win streak bonuses. I also think the real game begins after you enter Platinum, because everyone is on the same playing field in terms of points and the grind becomes real.
Random note: NGL I want capcom to buff Ken so I can stomp on people, not because he's bad or anything but because I like broken characters 😂. Make jinrai plus on block plz, thx.
i haven't played a single game online yet still playing with world tour and playing with my lil bro who is better than be at fighting games
oh, so scrub Juri's who play from fullscreen aren't as rare as I thought, huh. those that I met don't driverush though, they just try to DP you all the time. but the 2 gimmicks are kinda similar to me:D
I got to plat and thought i was stuck, suddenly in a week i got to PLAT 5, after a while your brain starts to see the patterns. Another factor is one thing i have noticed.. I play on XBOX, when i fight PC players most of them Counter Drive Impact almost every time and perfect parry is much more common. Not in XBOX, I suspect lots of people are cheating and get stuck in PLAT. I changed to XBOX players only and started winning more.
Your rank doesnt matter until 500 games. You get to choose your rank in this game.
What do you mean?
@@GrowthMindets The first question they ask you picks your rank.
@@GrowthMindets yurr when they ask what your experience with Street Fighter is. Beginner, intermediate etc. I was confused at first too but then I remembered that
@@lckfan3696 oh yeah. I picked beginner even tho I have experience . Probably why I was placed so low
Gimmicks do not belong in fighting games- so we do sumthn about it ASAP
rank in this game's very inflated, u always win more LP than u lose. I've played complete garbage players who has no business being in diamond, yolo random supers, blanka ball spam and all of that.
I can’t decide if I should take my deejay to ranked yet, I chose intermediate because I was only super silver in sfv which I barely played, got put in gold 5 with ryu and beat many gold, a few plat and what I think was a legit diamond 😂, I’ve been obsessing over this game and trying to understand fighting games on every level so maybe in just two weeks im genuinely much better now idk?
you won't play a diamond unless you're in mid/high plat
As someone who had the same rank as you in SFV, and is now fighting my way through gold, yeah I do think SF5 silver is tougher that SF6 silver for sure.
@@pingu8015 in casuals i fought a few diamonds
@@Korinengamecorp problem with sfv was it was full of smurfs, i literally got to super silver in the last two weeks before sf6 after not playing it for nearly a year, i could never take that game seriously
@@Korinengamecorp so you just went straight to ranked instead of trying to learn as much as possible?
Noti gang
Silver Ken [Modern]
NOBODY FUCKIN' USES SWEEPS IN SILVER. I WIN SO MANY GAMES WITH (mostly) ONE MOVE IT IS NOT FAIR.
I apologize for the caps but I can not stress that enough.