Just want to extend a huge THANK YOU for those of you who watched my AHS breakdowns this season. Hope you'll stick around I plan to do a bunch of other shows and movies! RIP Bertie 🔪
Brooke's survival was my only problem. We didn't see her getting rescued so I genuinely believed her soul was saved by satan and that's why she kept her youth, but at least Emma Roberts finally survived a season.
@just chill She leads a normal life that WE know of, that SHE TOLD Bobby and Donna. For all we know, she's an ordinary woman, 'the girl next door' killing people and just hasn't been caught. I really think she sold her soul to Satan because she knew she could never get revenge on Margaret and five years on death row changed her. I never really believed her character was that 'good two shoes' and had a hidden dark layer underneath.
I absolutely loved this episode and this season, but this doesn’t feel like the ending to me, nothing was explained, it was just like “well this is how they’re doing, bye”. Definitely looking forward for your version of ending!
Steph anie I think when certain seasons of a show seem long doesn’t seem too good, but when it feels short it always has me asking for the next episode impatiently!
Yeah I left wanting to see an actual camp scenario not just 5 episodes of them running away from things during the night & they mentioned the festival so much that it should’ve happened. It seemed lazy to me for them to mention events that didn’t end up happening
The fact that Lily Rabe’s character went from being a cold-blooded killer, who hated her son, to being mommy and grandmommy dearest is just one example of how patched together this season’s storyline was 🤣 Also, wasn’t she the reason there was a curse? So if she found happiness, why are all the ghosts still stuck? It made no sense.
Lauren Weems I understand why she felt at peace so suddenly, she spent so long as a ghost looking for her dead son, hating her living son and everyone she feels is to be blamed for Bobby’s death. But Ben “found” bobby bringing him back to her. Bobby is all she wanted. But yeah i agree If she found peace and her hatred and the blood she spilled caused the curse shouldn’t the curse be lifted now that she found her bobby. Would have made more scenes to have her being reunited with bobby being one of the last scenes ending the curse releasing everyone from purgatory
She isn't exactly the reason why all the souls are trapped here. She indeed started the killings but the souls are not bound to the place because of her only. The countless killings did curse the place if we consider the other seasons with ghosts. But yeah they should have done something with the ending. I would have loved a crossover with the witch from Roanoke for example.
@imagine liking Death Grips unironically i honestly wasnt expecting the ninth ep to be the finale i was actually shocked when i realised that season nine is already over, last episode felt too rushed to me
Funny how last season ppl said it was too long n certain episodes weren't needed, & this season it was shortened and its still static. #becarefulwatuask4🤔?
Yeah, maybe the LAST episode would have gone better if they had MORE episodes to start with. Who does 9 episodes for a whole entire viewing season???.....Oh....AHS does.
This all started because the counselors didn't protect Bobby, but then as ghosts they worked hard to protect Bobby #2, so Lavinia should forgive them right? Maybe they can leave now if they want?
So the EMTs didnt recognize Brooke even though she was the most infamous serial killer of that time who happened to be at the sight of her murders? The ghosts are suddenly able to use a payphone? Og bobby died as a kid but returned as an adult swamp monster?
When the ghost all kill the Night Stalker.. That reminds me of Freak Show when they pay back murder for Peep and when the ghost surround Margaret reminds me of Roanake when the Butcher Comes.
it ended bit too abruptly for me, the eight episode got me so fired up and made me feel like there was atleast 2 more episodes coming, but i turned out that it was just one
while I loved this season, i feel like its ahs to half ass the finale everytime lately. I feel like im always let down during the finale, even though its not got level of crap, its still not completely satisfying. But maybe they do that to revisit in a later season. still this is possibly my third or fourth favorite season.
@Planet Claire Has Big Hair I agree, the story of younger Bobby is quite weird and disappointing (although the camp golden star aesthetic was the only good part of that flashback for me). I do however want to see more of Mr Jingles' son, also named Bobby, because he could be fleshed out more, and honestly, Finn is gorgeous.
When it comes to Jingles reappearing, I think they explained it in The lady in white episode. His mom said that, in 1970, she « felt » something special when Jingles was around. She just knew her own flesh was there. It’s easy, from there, to understand why Jingles felt that his own flesh was at Camp Redwood AND in danger.
It still blows my mind that everyone loves this season. I love the 80’s theme but overall this season was a mess. AHS has turned ridiculous. I miss the bone chilling horror of “Asylum”
Right, everyone loves this season but the plot holes are everywhere and it built up to absolutely nothing. No connects even to other seasons other then the night stalker and they even messed that up.
The story just isn't enough. No one has a full story.. Mr. Jingles sorta. But that was hardly satisfying. The happy ending is B's because his mom really took advantage of him to get her Bobby back. Did it really help ehh don't know he could have fought and died still ghosted after or killed Ramirez and actually survive. All the murders early on and who is the killer...turns out.almost everyone.. was what I thought silly intro fun. I really started to believe the film in film theory only to explain why they went so wild without real plot content. It is fun if you literally don't care for any mystery and just like the looks and classic murders.
Asylum wouldve been one of my favorites if it werent for those dumb ass aliens and the only reason I still watch this show is to how tf they can possibly fit into all of this...like when they die can there be alien ghost? Can Satan possess them as well? So many questions 😂
In my opinion, this finale episode should have been set in 2009, twenty years after 1989. Bobby would be around the right age to want to find answers about his father. Richard Ramirez could then have been "missing" for twenty years, instead of thirty. Due to his constant resurrections, he's never technically dead, so he still ages, so he'd now be played by the actor from Hotel. Maybe we could have a montage from 1989 to 2009, with Zach Villa gradually turning into Anthony Ruivivar. While Chef Bertie and Xavier are on watch duty, they get a little steamy (oh, he does know what to do with it now he's got it), allowing Richard Ramirez time to escape from the campgrounds. Meanwhile, Bobby is being chased by Margaret Booth, before being rescued by Mr. Jingles, who tells him to leave. They embrace, a proper father and son bonding moment, before Margaret is resurrected and "murders" Jingles. Bobby manages to escape as all the ghosts band together to attack Margaret. As he leaves the campgrounds (and thus the threshold), he looks back, seeing his father, grandmother, and uncle, all looking back at him with pride. As he goes to leave, he suddenly spits up blood -- he's been stabbed in the back by Richard Ramirez. Bobby tries to crawl back towards the campgrounds, to be with his family, while all they can do is watch on helplessly. Ramirez just finds this whole act amusing, he taunts Jingles that "No one beats the Devil.", Jingles swears to kill him but Ramirez reminds him that he can't cross the threshold to do it. Bobby manages to get near the gate of the camp, his fingers interlocking with his fathers, but before Jingles can pull him into the campgrounds Ramirez stabs Bobby in the head, killing him instantly. Ramirez's victory is short-lived, however, as the blue/red lights of the local police shine behind him. Ramirez is arrested and returned to his cell where he'll eventually die of cancer. As the police car, containing Ramirez drives away from the camp, we see all the ghosts watching him leave, mournful for the loss of Bobby. However since Bobby managed to get his fingers over the threshold of the camp, he technically died in Camp Redwood, allowing him to reunite with his family. A bitter-sweet ending for the season.
DeercWerdna damn you shouldve be one of the writers 😭,I was honestly expecting his son to die somehow. Because the ending felt too light hearted for american horror story. Maybe that’s just me but I legitimately thought there would be more of a struggle.
@@deercwerdna1746 Agreed...they could have shown the whole thing of Ricky trying to call on satan and satan not responding or even him exclaiming out loud "No! You can't do this! After everything I've done for you, you cannot abandon me now!"
didn't margret become a ghost at redwood because she died a second before they threw her into the chopper? that's what i thought she said when she explained how she became a ghost
My problem with AHS as a whole is that the buildup for each season is never satisfied by the ending. It's one of the reasons I stopped caring about the show as much tbh, and I see they haven't changed things
Good call. It’s only gotten worse! It’s a far far cry from Asylum and Murder House. They are phoning it in and besides John Carroll Lynch and Lily Rabe, the acting isn’t good either.
akkoyu123 I think some of the acting is good don’t get me wrong (I love Finn Wittrock, Cody Fern, and especially Dylan MCDermott) But some of the “new” actors don’t measure up. Especially when compared to the incomparable Jessica Lange and ahs vets Evan Peters and Sarah Paulson
THANK YOU for opening with the OBVIOUS! I would LOVE a how it should have ended! I felt like the last episode left us as more of an epilogue feeling than a true finale!
Did anyone think Donna and Brooke's final handshake seemed weirdly suspicious? Like Donna was hiding something or knew something about Brooke that we didn't? I also didn't really believe that Donna "watched Brooke die" - she saw Brooke was on the floor, screamed and then ran. I thought she might have been saying that to cover something else up.
@Nick Ford I’m in complete agreement with you! I’ve been looking through the comments to see if anyone mentioned it! They had sex in another episode which I think created something! She woke up the min he kissed her! Notice when Trevor dies in Montana’s hand she didn’t kiss him so he just died! Then after Brooke got and he helped to the opening of the camp she fell over and he hunched over like something passed between the both of them! I have a feeling she doesn’t look old because of a specific reason!
I actually would rank it in my top 3 seasons aswell, i sometimes feel that ahs gets really stale at the end of a season, but this one kept me on the edge of my seat throughout the whole season.
Since Brooke hasn’t aged I thought it was going to be revealed Brooke was a ghost possibly without realizing it but had somehow managed to escape camp Redwood.
One of my biggest beefs is that, in episodes 7/8, it seemed strongly suggested that reuniting Lavinia and Bobby was the key to at least understanding the curse (if not breaking it, which the ghosts wanted to do). They were reunited (apparently with Jingles being an important piece of the puzzle?), and it seemed like they reached some other part of the afterlife beyond the camp and the other ghosts. As you asked, where did Jingles come from after 30 years, especially since it seemed like he went somewhere else? How did Lavinia or Bobby ultimately contribute to our understanding of the curse? We know it started with Lavinia, and that she pushed Margaret over the edge to commit the 1970 massacre. She seems "at peace" because she has Bobby, but nothing really changed. Also, Bobby wasn't a regular ghost until the last episode, and now he's apparently just like all the others. I wonder why he was kind of there in the lake as that corpse man?
How can Richard Ramirez be alive in 2019 in ahs 1984 when he died in prison in 2013 and in ahs hotel at the dinner they all knew he died in prison in 2013
Maliha Sallahuddin that's kinda the point, which made me love the season more because I was once a HUGE fan of slasher movies. Sometimes, it's not just about the complicated plot or mysteries after mysteries.
Kyle Hopkins Right? It seems bizarre that Murphy would bring back Nightstalker only to not connect him to hotel. He better have a good reason that’s revealed next season!
I feel like there should’ve been more clarification on if jingles’s mom could reverse the curse since I believe she was the one who put the curse on the camp in the first place?
I think her killing cursed the land, and Margaret and all the other killers made it worse so that even though jingles mom found peace the land was still cursed, not his mom
I definitely think that we will know more about how Brooke survived and stayed out of camp redwood in upcoming seasons, remember that Montana said it was the purgatory, if Brooke managed to make it out of there is because she maybe made a pact with the devil, also remember that Richard tried to tempt her when they were in jail, so maybe at the end she did agreed to it.
I just read something from Murphy saying that season 10 will likely be the last and he has reached out to fan favorites from the first few seasons to come back and they all said yes. You know that probably means Lily Rabe, Evan Peters Sarah Paulson, Dylan Mcdermott, Emma Thompson, Taissa Farmiga and hopefully Kathy Bates, Angela Basset, and really hopefully Jessica Lange. I also cant forget Frances Conroy who I met once during the time she was on Six Feet Under and was one of the nicest people I ever met. There's also Zachary Quinto and Denis O Hare I'd like to see. If it's the final season I could see them all coming back in one capacity or another. No clue about what season is yet though, I had personally hoped for the far future on a space ship like the movie alien. I'd say that the show has covered the full spectrum of horror movie villains just never done sci fi horror, or at at the very least we get answers about the ghost curse and all of the trapped spirits at the various settings are set free.
@KAMANTHA Q. KLYMAXX dude how many of these did you reply to? Jingles wasn't cutting off the ears dumb ass Margaret framed him and cut her own ear off, he killed like 3 people because he was convinced he was a killer by electroshock therapyand was pissed
I loved the season maybe because I was a teenager in the 80s so this was like stepping back in time for me. They nailed it on that part-the rest of it I liked but it just sort of felt rushed at the ending. It was all tied up in a nice little bow which was OK but it just felt like it was missing something- I’m not really sure what. As I’ve said 100 times before the real Billy Idol on here would’ve been awesome. After all we got to see Stevie Nicks so Billy Idol would’ve been the cherry on the Sundae. It was definitely good, it just left me wanting something else. I am in agreement that you said you loved the Campiness of it. That’s what some people are missing here. If you saw these movies that’s what they were. They were scary but they were mostly pure camp. The Friday the 13th, the nightmare on Elm Street’s etc. etc. This show looks exactly like one of those movies. Maybe that’s also why it was so close to my heart. ❤️ Best kill-Margaret in the wood chipper. Very Fargo-esq.Loved it
This season is definitely going into my top 5 I loved every episode !! I can rewatch this season like asylum murder house coven and roanoake ! Hotel as well but eehhh
I agree! This was one of my favorite seasons! I loved the "campiness" to it as well, and the 80s in general. I love how much that Cody Fern looks like Andrew McCarthy. And I also agree, I wanted more closure to some of the ghosts stories! I'd be interested in a "Ghost Stories from AHS" series, with backstories on the ghosts, at least from season 9. All in all, great season. :)
I like the fact that none of the ghosts had an ending to their stories because closure's not for the dead. Closure is for the living. Jonas didn't even get closure or any answers to his questions. I was expecting the authorities to interrupt the ghost mob and recapture Ramirez but that didn't happen.
So glad I found this channel... while I realized it wasn’t for everybody, it got me watching for the first time, since Freakshow. This episode aside from a couple of things, actually makes sense and you should have a reverence for 80s slashers, at least for me to really appreciate this season. While some of the red herrings were so blatantly obvious, I figured that was the point of it. While Richards “fate” , the longing for the ghosts to find a way out of Redwood and how Jonas was able to leave Camp Redwood every time are minor plot holes that will baffle me for awhile, they are still in line with the slasher genre. Not everything made sense (to this day I wonder what happened to Paul from Friday the 13th pt 2) 😂😂😂 The music was used perfectly and the ending actually threw me and I’m ok with it. I don’t think it took away from the story and it was still a way to be different if you have the actors to pull it off. Lily Rabe, John Lynch and Billie Lourd were amazing! The rest of the cast was great as well. ❤️ Margaret and glad she will spend eternity at Camp Hellhole succumbing to never ending death for decades to come.😂 If I had one complaint, I wish we had more Bertie. However Thanxs to Ahs1984, I will never forget their take on Strip Pictionary...😂😂😂😊🔪👍🏻😱😳🏃🏻🏃🏻♀️ and I’m glad that Emma was the final girl, finally....
i feel like in terms of seasons that can handle another season i think this season can be explored so much more with like the reasoning behind why they are all there and things like that. i hope this is revisited in later seasons
In my opinion this season was flawless, I liked every character. I saw Mr.jingles as the main character, he had such an amazing character development. The gore was there, it made me laugh every episode, and the music was superb because of course it was the 80s. Also I would say the intro is the best one so far, just everything about this season was fantastic and had a good ending. Just sad I didn’t see Billy Idol as a guest appearance damn 😂
So. Many. Missed opportunities.. 1). They could’ve brought Dylan McDermott back as a young Bloody Face Jr and this could’ve been the start of his serial killer journey... 2). Brooke’s ending was so fuckin stupid. I would’ve much preferred there being a bigger plot twist, and someone we least expected was the one sending Bobby money. Or at the very least it would’ve been badass if Brooke FINALLY accepted Satan’s offer and that’s why she survived. It would’ve also been a WAY better way to explain why she still looks 20 at age 50-60 instead of throwing in that she married a dermatologist... I don’t care how good a dermatologist he is, no 60 year old woman is gonna look 20 😂 3). Since it was Halloween night, the scene where Ray takes Brooke to the entrance after she got shot and then passed out just outside Camp could’ve been the PERFECT way for Ray to discover the ghosts can leave camp and rejoin the living for one night, and it would’ve given the other ghosts a happy ending.. especially Montana since she constantly talks about how she feels like she’s missing so much of the outside world. The scene was set up PERFECTLY to do this. Especially when Brooke fainted, it would’ve been epic for Ray to freak out because he loved her and ran out of the camp grounds to take her to the hospital.. but nope. It also would’ve given Jingles, Bobby, other Bobby, and Grandma a chance to be a family again at least for one night a year. 4). Satan was a pretty big part of this season, and since it takes place in, and just outside of LA, they could’ve shown Ramirez and Mr. Jingles visit the church of Satan or something when they left Camp Redwood. Or at the very least make some kind of reference to the satanists plotting the birth of the antichrist in the future. Ugh. This season had so much potential and for a while it was very quickly becoming my favorite season.. and then this bullshit happened... not only that, but what the fuck happened to Ramirez? Last time we saw him, the ghosts were holding him back so he couldn’t get Bobby... and they literally have a 24/7 watch on him so they can kill him again when he comes back each time.... so are they just stuck doing that for the rest of eternity? If so, how the fuck was Ramirez able to visit Hotel in season 5? Lol. And Bobby knows Ramirez wants him dead and has the literal devil in him..but Bobby is now completely unbothered and is just like “oh well 🤷🏼♂️ I got to see my dead dad, uncle, & grandma.. I don’t mind there’s an immortal satanic lunatic serial killer who’s main goal is to slowly torture and kill me heh” ...and clearly the whole Ghost Watch is flawed.. Ramirez was able to escape once, and has all of eternity to do it again. Just seems stupid. Like I said.. SO MANY MISSED OPPORTUNITIES and plot holes.
I feel like they fucked up by not simply aging brooke appropriately and breaking the fourth wall by telling us she has a dermatologist husband and that's why she looks so young and it gave everyone the wrong impression so every second comment is "DiD bRoOkE sElL hER sOuL tO sAtAn?!" which I don't think was their intention in the end lol
I loved this season and episode. I also LOVE your breakdowns. My theory on why Mr. Jingles just showed up was pretty much explained by his mom. Remember she said she just felt a force or a pull and she knew it was her son just not the one she wanted. That's what I think happened there. Jingles Sr felt the presence of his son and was drawn to him. I think because of his guilt he remained hidden until Margaret threatened his life. He said he wouldn't let her kill his son. Anyway just my take and I hope you do a "how it SHOULD have ended"
My biggest problem is that in all over seasons with murdered spirits tied to the place of their death, they've always been able to leave the property on Halloween, yet these guys are stuck at Camp Redwood... and Margaret planned a massacre on Halloween during the festival? Just felt off to me on that part. I'll admit that hearing Mike + the Mechanics 'In the Living Years' at the end had me crying, but then that song always makes me misty eyed.
Loved this season! (Especially mimicking the campiness of 80’s flicks!) In my top 3 for sure! (Actually, probably my second favorite behind “Hotel”, with “Asylum” a VERY close third!) Sure, there are always a few questions left, & no season is perfect, but hey, VERY few shows are. Honestly, as a HUGE 80’s horror fan, this was the season I’ve been waiting for now, 8 long years. And I liked the nice ending, which is also kind of reminiscent of the 80’s movies they were mimicking. Gotta say, one of my favorite moments (& there were LOTS!) was the homage to the original Friday the 13th, with Benji being pulled out of the boat & into the water. Loved it, and was pretty sure it was coming sooner or later...lol. This season was clearly a love letter to 80’s culture, specifically slasher movies. And they BRILLIANTLY used 80’s music to add to the story! My only somewhat big complaint was it should have been at LEAST 10 episodes, so they could have explained things better, & had more of what happened during & immediately after the festival. And I was REALLY disappointed we didn’t get to at least see a few more performers, like the Go-Go’s, Rick Springfield & of course Billy Idol! (Wouldn’t Evan Peters have made a fantastic Billy?!) I didn’t need to see them perform, just make an appearance. Overall, I’d give this season a 9/10, & it would have gotten a 10 if they had of added another episode or two, explaining better the lingering questions. And I was expecting a cameo (one scene maybe) with Sarah Paulson playing her reporter persona, Lana Winters, maybe as a reporter doing a story on the massacre. Side note: As far as Brooke looking so good at roughly 50, have you seen some celebs at 50+? With a bit of money, a LOT of Botox & plastic surgery, it could be easy! Also, IRL Leslie Grossman is 48, (looks 30-33 at best) Sarah Paulson is 44, Lily Rabe is 37, & the gorgeous Angela Basset is 61! Yes, SIXTY ONE! So, could Brooke look 30 at age 50? You betcha! lol
-Margaret said she died before her head hit the woodchipper, but it seems weird to have that line in addition to a shot of the wind blatantly blowing her puree back into the camp. -So how did Ramirez make it to March's dinner if he's stuck in Redwood? On the subject of throwaway lines, a simple "But one night a year he just disappears, we're not sure how or why" would have been fine. -Lavinia being redeemed but the Redwood still being a purgatory seems odd, but on the other hand, it is the sight of multiple murders and massacres. It's reasonable that Lavinia started the curse, and all the other deaths cemented the curse beyond Lavinia's actions.
I miss it already. This season is definitely in my top 5 and was too short. Mr. Jingles was on the bottom of the lake that Margaret claimed was bottomless. I think his family hung out there away from the others until he felt the presence his son, like Lavinia (spelling?), felt the presence hers even though she couldn't find him (Bobby) till her other son (Mr. Jingles) died too.
You gotta understand from they way the shoot the scenes to the storytelling it’s all in the likeness of the 80s which came with holes in plots and lack in back stories or giving us a understanding in general, cause now it messes with us to want to know and we use to talk about what we didn’t know from a movie or show we watched it’s genius really
I do have to agree with you about Brooke's ending, it was pretty weak. Her story just kinda... wiffed out. Same with Ramirez, like... it's funny that he's doomed to just be killed over and over again by the ghosts of Camp Redwood, but that's not really an ending. But I did like Mr. Jingles saving Bobby and Bobby getting to see his whole family, and the ghosts' redemption.
Margaret was able to res because she still died on the property. She died when her head went into contact w the blades of the chipper. She even said it herself. I believe the ghosts can be seen by who they want to be seen by. They discussed that earlier in the season. I believe it was when jingles was looking for his mother. Potentially jingles didn't want to be seen. He was in the closest place to a heaven he was gonna get. Finally being reunited with his brother and a mother who is actually showing him love and affection. He had no need or want to show himself to anyone until his son was in danger. I think Margaret was lying about jingles location. Just trying to drop his guard so she could get her revenge, but then jingles shows up out of nowhere to save him. Really good season though. My favorite by far. However the ending was rushed and i would have liked to have seen it go a few more episodes.
Just want to extend a huge THANK YOU for those of you who watched my AHS breakdowns this season. Hope you'll stick around I plan to do a bunch of other shows and movies! RIP Bertie 🔪
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This season finale had a more sentimental and heartwarming feeling at the end of the episode than most other seasons.
@KAMANTHA Q. KLYMAXX Most horror movies end with the main characters escaping and making it out, maybe with a jumpscare at the end.
Agreed, a “happy ending” to an ahs season, whatever that’s worth.
I think it was on purpose based on the “false sentiment of happy endings” we see on many horror films. I think things are not what they seem
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Brooke's survival was my only problem. We didn't see her getting rescued so I genuinely believed her soul was saved by satan and that's why she kept her youth, but at least Emma Roberts finally survived a season.
She didn't keep her youth. I assume it was just difficult for the make up team to make her look like a 50 year old woman lol
JJ Jones but they made Sarah Paulson age in season 2 as Lana Winters
She had really good fillers...lol
@just chill She leads a normal life that WE know of, that SHE TOLD Bobby and Donna. For all we know, she's an ordinary woman, 'the girl next door' killing people and just hasn't been caught. I really think she sold her soul to Satan because she knew she could never get revenge on Margaret and five years on death row changed her. I never really believed her character was that 'good two shoes' and had a hidden dark layer underneath.
They also didn’t explain how Brooke would’ve known about Mr. Jingles son in Alaska.
I absolutely loved this episode and this season, but this doesn’t feel like the ending to me, nothing was explained, it was just like “well this is how they’re doing, bye”. Definitely looking forward for your version of ending!
Still a better ending than the last 4 seasons! 😂😂
I feel like they did this on purpose, now we are gonna look forward to the next season hoping for answers because the season was great
@@joijiparra Noooooooo! Cult wasn't bad
I really liked Apocalypse and 1984...
Roanoake and Cult NOT AT ALL. Loved all the other seasons
I mean were any 80s slasher movies explained at the end??
seemed like a really short season or is it just me?
Steph anie I think when certain seasons of a show seem long doesn’t seem too good, but when it feels short it always has me asking for the next episode impatiently!
It was due to the setting if Camp Redwood. The seasoned revolved around the camp. It made the season seem small if any.
@arno victor You ever been enclosed for a short duration of time? Minutes feel like hours.
It was short only 9 episodes instead of the usual 12 or 13.
It's better.
It used to drag a bit before.
Margaret: Let’s talk about this! Tell me what you want!
Xavier: Your Head on a stick.
He seriously had some of the funniest lines in the season 🤣🤣🤣
Maeve Carroll him and gus 😂😂😂😂
I loved Margaret ....makes you laugh even dying.
Xavier is my favorite this season😂😂 tbh Margaret was funny too
lol I thought so too... Xavier was funny..
"You want me to breathe?! I have breathed the fire of a thousand white hot suns!!!"
Older Brooke was laughable, they could have used glasses and a different wig to make her look older.
runee197 Yes they didn’t age Brook she’s meant to be in her 50s but looks like she did when she was in 1980s
At first I thought she was a ghost that got out somehow lol
runee197 agreed but her husband was a dermatologist and she hinted at some plastic surgery
pretty sure satan is involved
Not sure why they didn't. The makeup artists did a great job on Donna. They could have done the same with Brook.
Good season but was disappointed the blood bath with all the 80’s bands didn’t happen.
The budget ran out. So they had to skip the band. In fact they had to skip alot of things.
Jenni Jones... source??
I saw a flock of seagulls tonight in Sydney... I'm glad they were not massacred at redwood
@@luhed AHS....or should I say a lack of it....i.e. 9 eps.
Yeah I left wanting to see an actual camp scenario not just 5 episodes of them running away from things during the night & they mentioned the festival so much that it should’ve happened. It seemed lazy to me for them to mention events that didn’t end up happening
The fact that Lily Rabe’s character went from being a cold-blooded killer, who hated her son, to being mommy and grandmommy dearest is just one example of how patched together this season’s storyline was 🤣 Also, wasn’t she the reason there was a curse? So if she found happiness, why are all the ghosts still stuck? It made no sense.
Lauren Weems I understand why she felt at peace so suddenly, she spent so long as a ghost looking for her dead son, hating her living son and everyone she feels is to be blamed for Bobby’s death.
But Ben “found” bobby bringing him back to her.
Bobby is all she wanted.
But yeah i agree If she found peace and her hatred and the blood she spilled caused the curse shouldn’t the curse be lifted now that she found her bobby. Would have made more scenes to have her being reunited with bobby being one of the last scenes ending the curse releasing everyone from purgatory
She isn't exactly the reason why all the souls are trapped here. She indeed started the killings but the souls are not bound to the place because of her only. The countless killings did curse the place if we consider the other seasons with ghosts. But yeah they should have done something with the ending. I would have loved a crossover with the witch from Roanoke for example.
Good points all. She DID seem the happiest and she WAS the main reason for the curse!
yea this season was good but had alot of plot holes and unanswered questions
@@leese.23 aliens your welcome
I don't dislike this season but by watching it I never got this classic AHS feeling
Leviko agreed
exactly it just felt like a different show but with some of the same characters
Mr Jingles and Brooke found happiness and peace, Thats all that matters in my book.
I agree a 100% with you.
@@Terrorvenue awwee me too ...but ray and brooke😭
I felt that the last episode was rushed.
Misty Goodwin Corley “tell your kids about the ghosts of the 80s” lol
@imagine liking Death Grips unironically i honestly wasnt expecting the ninth ep to be the finale i was actually shocked when i realised that season nine is already over, last episode felt too rushed to me
Funny how last season ppl said it was too long n certain episodes weren't needed, & this season it was shortened and its still static. #becarefulwatuask4🤔?
Yeah, maybe the LAST episode would have gone better if they had MORE episodes to start with. Who does 9 episodes for a whole entire viewing season???.....Oh....AHS does.
@@jennijones1532 There are more and more shows only doing 8
The porn director died at the camp by Mr. Jingles why didn’t we see him reappear any?
And the police officer
And the real nurse Rita.
Dave Austin yeah there was so many plot holes this whole series can’t wait to pick up the Blu-ray set when out loved the soundtrack throughout
I think it's because all those characters are irrelevant. Many other people died here and didn't appear later.
Montana said there is 40 Ghosts on the property most of which we didnt see lol
brooke’s ending really wasn’t the best, but what can we expect the writers never give emma’s characters good endings
This all started because the counselors didn't protect Bobby, but then as ghosts they worked hard to protect Bobby #2, so Lavinia should forgive them right? Maybe they can leave now if they want?
Christy Bruno right? What about her part Margaret making her psychotic ?
Aliens exist think THINK stupid
Good point but it was like they were saying they form their own little community so who knows where were they don’t want to go
Cassie Nicole Yea I felt like everyone just kind of brushed over the part where Jingles’s mom started the curse
Still never got anything of how his back healed and I thought it would end with brook sold her soul lol
So the EMTs didnt recognize Brooke even though she was the most infamous serial killer of that time who happened to be at the sight of her murders? The ghosts are suddenly able to use a payphone? Og bobby died as a kid but returned as an adult swamp monster?
Lady Diana they can’t leave. No one said they couldn’t use the phone.
TRIPPLE SIGHT333 who hurt you?
@@Sam-kr1mu who hurt you?
@@imposterblockade1826 it is not that serious
@@MaRyaYTOfficial are you mentally ok?
When the ghost all kill the Night Stalker.. That reminds me of Freak Show when they pay back murder for Peep and when the ghost surround Margaret reminds me of Roanake when the Butcher Comes.
Also in coven when they kill the axe man in the past
Mr. Jingles was my fav character.. totally fatherly type to all
I dug it, but yeah that final episode was ehh.
The final episode was amazing 😂
it ended bit too abruptly for me, the eight episode got me so fired up and made me feel like there was atleast 2 more episodes coming, but i turned out that it was just one
Ash W. I really hope your not serious. It sucked.
while I loved this season, i feel like its ahs to half ass the finale everytime lately. I feel like im always let down during the finale, even though its not got level of crap, its still not completely satisfying. But maybe they do that to revisit in a later season. still this is possibly my third or fourth favorite season.
exactly how i felt, the ending left me feeling cheated and was so sudden
Actually Margaret said she died 1 second before!
Another amazingly built-up season aaaaaand then they can't land.
(P.S. I hope we get to see more of older Bobby.)
@Planet Claire Has Big Hair I agree, the story of younger Bobby is quite weird and disappointing (although the camp golden star aesthetic was the only good part of that flashback for me). I do however want to see more of Mr Jingles' son, also named Bobby, because he could be fleshed out more, and honestly, Finn is gorgeous.
When it comes to Jingles reappearing, I think they explained it in The lady in white episode. His mom said that, in 1970, she « felt » something special when Jingles was around. She just knew her own flesh was there. It’s easy, from there, to understand why Jingles felt that his own flesh was at Camp Redwood AND in danger.
Great to see your review of this finale episode of ahs 1984 the whole season was 80s rad like Montana said to jingles son the 80s will never die.
"I think that's illegal but whatever I'm here for it" - fans watching the Night Stalker commit any crime
I have a feeling Richard Ramirez is gonna come back since he's the only one who can technically escape redwood
It still blows my mind that everyone loves this season. I love the 80’s theme but overall this season was a mess. AHS has turned ridiculous. I miss the bone chilling horror of “Asylum”
Murder House, Asylum and Coven. Top 3. In that order. Everything started getting worse and worse later
Right, everyone loves this season but the plot holes are everywhere and it built up to absolutely nothing. No connects even to other seasons other then the night stalker and they even messed that up.
The story just isn't enough. No one has a full story.. Mr. Jingles sorta. But that was hardly satisfying. The happy ending is B's because his mom really took advantage of him to get her Bobby back. Did it really help ehh don't know he could have fought and died still ghosted after or killed Ramirez and actually survive. All the murders early on and who is the killer...turns out.almost everyone.. was what I thought silly intro fun. I really started to believe the film in film theory only to explain why they went so wild without real plot content. It is fun if you literally don't care for any mystery and just like the looks and classic murders.
Asylum was a mess itself, look at the plot holes in that one. Murder House and Coven are still the best
Asylum wouldve been one of my favorites if it werent for those dumb ass aliens and the only reason I still watch this show is to how tf they can possibly fit into all of this...like when they die can there be alien ghost? Can Satan possess them as well? So many questions 😂
Why didn‘t they just chain Richard up and lock him in a box underground so he can never escape.
maybe bc the writers didnt write that in their scripts
ArcticVulpix didn’t you see the scene where Ramirez gets his hands untied by Papa Satan?
Pull Marie Laveau and lock him up
17 People liked this without understanding he has satan on his side.... *facepalm*
Like Jason !
In my opinion, this finale episode should have been set in 2009, twenty years after 1989. Bobby would be around the right age to want to find answers about his father. Richard Ramirez could then have been "missing" for twenty years, instead of thirty. Due to his constant resurrections, he's never technically dead, so he still ages, so he'd now be played by the actor from Hotel. Maybe we could have a montage from 1989 to 2009, with Zach Villa gradually turning into Anthony Ruivivar. While Chef Bertie and Xavier are on watch duty, they get a little steamy (oh, he does know what to do with it now he's got it), allowing Richard Ramirez time to escape from the campgrounds.
Meanwhile, Bobby is being chased by Margaret Booth, before being rescued by Mr. Jingles, who tells him to leave. They embrace, a proper father and son bonding moment, before Margaret is resurrected and "murders" Jingles. Bobby manages to escape as all the ghosts band together to attack Margaret. As he leaves the campgrounds (and thus the threshold), he looks back, seeing his father, grandmother, and uncle, all looking back at him with pride. As he goes to leave, he suddenly spits up blood -- he's been stabbed in the back by Richard Ramirez. Bobby tries to crawl back towards the campgrounds, to be with his family, while all they can do is watch on helplessly. Ramirez just finds this whole act amusing, he taunts Jingles that "No one beats the Devil.", Jingles swears to kill him but Ramirez reminds him that he can't cross the threshold to do it. Bobby manages to get near the gate of the camp, his fingers interlocking with his fathers, but before Jingles can pull him into the campgrounds Ramirez stabs Bobby in the head, killing him instantly. Ramirez's victory is short-lived, however, as the blue/red lights of the local police shine behind him. Ramirez is arrested and returned to his cell where he'll eventually die of cancer. As the police car, containing Ramirez drives away from the camp, we see all the ghosts watching him leave, mournful for the loss of Bobby. However since Bobby managed to get his fingers over the threshold of the camp, he technically died in Camp Redwood, allowing him to reunite with his family. A bitter-sweet ending for the season.
DeercWerdna damn you shouldve be one of the writers 😭,I was honestly expecting his son to die somehow. Because the ending felt too light hearted for american horror story. Maybe that’s just me but I legitimately thought there would be more of a struggle.
@Shadowmire Yep. That was my thinking too. Satan would have abandoned Ramirez, he's got a bigger fish to fry.
I'm sold! A good ending indeed.
@@deercwerdna1746 Agreed...they could have shown the whole thing of Ricky trying to call on satan and satan not responding or even him exclaiming out loud "No! You can't do this! After everything I've done for you, you cannot abandon me now!"
WHY CANT YOU BE A WRITER FOR THE SHOW HOLY SHIT
Oh my god! My meme in the opener! Thank you so much for crediting me!
You must have missed when Margaret explains that she actually died a millisecond before the head went in the chipper....
@LokiTetch either way, that's what she SAID, go back and watch again... lol
@LokiTetch i,don't remember for sure, but I THINK she said "SHE READ SOMEWHERE" AND "UP TO 30 SECONDS".... If so.....
@@garyzimmerman62 and she's a ghost from 1984 lol so you know she read that shit in a crappy magazine not online like today lol
@LokiTetch they're not fucking ghosts of brain surgeons htf would they know honestly
didn't margret become a ghost at redwood because she died a second before they threw her into the chopper? that's what i thought she said when she explained how she became a ghost
You are correct
Well, this last episode just proved that Season 2 will always be the best.
finally an intellectual
No because...aliens
Murder house will always be the best
BRUH COVEN THE BEST
okay but the line 80s will never die gave me a huge smile
I definitely loved this season. Sorry it is over. I wonder what next years theme is gonna be. URBAN LEGENDS? MAYBE?
Dwain Madison way to short just started rewatching AHS Freakshow so long each episode and season
Its gonna be isolation on an island
My problem with AHS as a whole is that the buildup for each season is never satisfied by the ending. It's one of the reasons I stopped caring about the show as much tbh, and I see they haven't changed things
Good call. It’s only gotten worse! It’s a far far cry from Asylum and Murder House. They are phoning it in and besides John Carroll Lynch and Lily Rabe, the acting isn’t good either.
Roller Girl wow, i didn't get that seeing as the murder house stories character (Lily rabe) played a very similar part but ok.
@@ckotcher1 honestly I disagree, esp for the AHS vets, I think the acting is pretty good. It's just overshadowed by poor pacing/writing toward the end
akkoyu123 I think some of the acting is good don’t get me wrong (I love Finn Wittrock, Cody Fern, and especially Dylan MCDermott) But some of the “new” actors don’t measure up. Especially when compared to the incomparable Jessica Lange and ahs vets Evan Peters and Sarah Paulson
@@ckotcher1 agreed! So glad I'm not the only one lol
Please PLEASE do a "How It Should Have Ended" video for 1984 like you did for Apocalypse! I'd love to see what you would have done.
THANK YOU for opening with the OBVIOUS! I would LOVE a how it should have ended! I felt like the last episode left us as more of an epilogue feeling than a true finale!
The start of this video blew my mind! I never realized that from The Hotel season! Thanks for that haha
Did anyone think Donna and Brooke's final handshake seemed weirdly suspicious? Like Donna was hiding something or knew something about Brooke that we didn't? I also didn't really believe that Donna "watched Brooke die" - she saw Brooke was on the floor, screamed and then ran. I thought she might have been saying that to cover something else up.
I agree that handshake between them looked kinda sketchy I would really love to see brook or Donna in future seasons
Aubrey S. Was strange when black guy kissed her weird sound and she was resurrected hmmm
Nick Ford Ray found Brooke and carried her out to the edge of the camp where she got help from an unknown person, he didn’t resurrect her
@Nick Ford I’m in complete agreement with you! I’ve been looking through the comments to see if anyone mentioned it! They had sex in another episode which I think created something! She woke up the min he kissed her! Notice when Trevor dies in Montana’s hand she didn’t kiss him so he just died! Then after Brooke got and he helped to the opening of the camp she fell over and he hunched over like something passed between the both of them! I have a feeling she doesn’t look old because of a specific reason!
I actually would rank it in my top 3 seasons aswell, i sometimes feel that ahs gets really stale at the end of a season, but this one kept me on the edge of my seat throughout the whole season.
I was very disappointed in this season, but especially this last episode.
Finn was smokin this episode. Great addition to the finale. Those eyes...
The first season and this one are my fav seasons
Since Brooke hasn’t aged I thought it was going to be revealed Brooke was a ghost possibly without realizing it but had somehow managed to escape camp
Redwood.
Please do a how it should have ended for 1984
One of my biggest beefs is that, in episodes 7/8, it seemed strongly suggested that reuniting Lavinia and Bobby was the key to at least understanding the curse (if not breaking it, which the ghosts wanted to do). They were reunited (apparently with Jingles being an important piece of the puzzle?), and it seemed like they reached some other part of the afterlife beyond the camp and the other ghosts. As you asked, where did Jingles come from after 30 years, especially since it seemed like he went somewhere else? How did Lavinia or Bobby ultimately contribute to our understanding of the curse? We know it started with Lavinia, and that she pushed Margaret over the edge to commit the 1970 massacre. She seems "at peace" because she has Bobby, but nothing really changed. Also, Bobby wasn't a regular ghost until the last episode, and now he's apparently just like all the others. I wonder why he was kind of there in the lake as that corpse man?
How can Richard Ramirez be alive in 2019 in ahs 1984 when he died in prison in 2013 and in ahs hotel at the dinner they all knew he died in prison in 2013
They changed the main timeline at the end of Apocalypse is the best I can think of.
Ya I was thinking that too when Landon got ran over. Guess Satan didn’t wanna revive him like he revived Ramírez 100 times lol
In total honesty, I think AHS hasn't had a single 'great' finale since Murder House
They always seem forced or rushed
9 episodes was way too little I feel like they could still keep going 😭
my the only one here that started crying when living year started to play
This season was literally written by a third grader. Brooke kept surviving how stupid. Donna was the only character I loved
Maliha Sallahuddin you kinda missed the point. It's all about calling back to the 80's slasher movies where the virgin survives no matter what
@@AaronTroy19 I know, I know but still 😭 so many attacks it was ridiculous
Xan Chi but Brooke isnt a virgin. She did it with Ray
@@Sam-kr1mu Ray was a ghost so technically Brooke was still a virgin.
Maliha Sallahuddin that's kinda the point, which made me love the season more because I was once a HUGE fan of slasher movies. Sometimes, it's not just about the complicated plot or mysteries after mysteries.
This is my favorite season, everything was amazing from the 80’s timing to the entertaining plot!
I was shocked that there were no tie-ins this season, not even with Ricky Ramirez from Hotel. It seems like many missed opportunities
Kyle Hopkins Right? It seems bizarre that Murphy would bring back Nightstalker only to not connect him to hotel. He better have a good reason that’s revealed next season!
I feel like there should’ve been more clarification on if jingles’s mom could reverse the curse since I believe she was the one who put the curse on the camp in the first place?
I think her killing cursed the land, and Margaret and all the other killers made it worse so that even though jingles mom found peace the land was still cursed, not his mom
I definitely think that we will know more about how Brooke survived and stayed out of camp redwood in upcoming seasons, remember that Montana said it was the purgatory, if Brooke managed to make it out of there is because she maybe made a pact with the devil, also remember that Richard tried to tempt her when they were in jail, so maybe at the end she did agreed to it.
I don't know why, but I love the screenshort at 10:47. It looks really cool
Can't agree it being a great season. Everyone has there own opinion. Felt like the hotel season, but in a camp.
I just read something from Murphy saying that season 10 will likely be the last and he has reached out to fan favorites from the first few seasons to come back and they all said yes. You know that probably means Lily Rabe, Evan Peters Sarah Paulson, Dylan Mcdermott, Emma Thompson, Taissa Farmiga and hopefully Kathy Bates, Angela Basset, and really hopefully Jessica Lange. I also cant forget Frances Conroy who I met once during the time she was on Six Feet Under and was one of the nicest people I ever met. There's also Zachary Quinto and Denis O Hare I'd like to see. If it's the final season I could see them all coming back in one capacity or another. No clue about what season is yet though, I had personally hoped for the far future on a space ship like the movie alien. I'd say that the show has covered the full spectrum of horror movie villains just never done sci fi horror, or at at the very least we get answers about the ghost curse and all of the trapped spirits at the various settings are set free.
Who killed Jonas?
Why is the ghosts still there if Bobby Jingles and their mom is in peace😒?
@Planet Claire Has Big Hair who hurt you? Calm down
... if you don't know enough Jonas is did you even watch the show???
@KAMANTHA Q. KLYMAXX dude how many of these did you reply to? Jingles wasn't cutting off the ears dumb ass Margaret framed him and cut her own ear off, he killed like 3 people because he was convinced he was a killer by electroshock therapyand was pissed
the last song got me in the feels ❤ living years. loved this season.
Damn Emma Roberts was so gorgeous in this season. That smile and that stare
I loved the season maybe because I was a teenager in the 80s so this was like stepping back in time for me. They nailed it on that part-the rest of it I liked but it just sort of felt rushed at the ending. It was all tied up in a nice little bow which was OK but it just felt like it was missing something- I’m not really sure what. As I’ve said 100 times before the real Billy Idol on here would’ve been awesome. After all we got to see Stevie Nicks so Billy Idol would’ve been the cherry on the Sundae. It was definitely good, it just left me wanting something else.
I am in agreement that you said you loved the Campiness of it. That’s what some people are missing here. If you saw these movies that’s what they were. They were scary but they were mostly pure camp. The Friday the 13th, the nightmare on Elm Street’s etc. etc. This show looks exactly like one of those movies. Maybe that’s also why it was so close to my heart. ❤️
Best kill-Margaret in the wood chipper. Very Fargo-esq.Loved it
I was just waiting to get to hear eyes without a face by billy idol, so it was the biggest let down ever
This season is definitely going into my top 5 I loved every episode !! I can rewatch this season like asylum murder house coven and roanoake ! Hotel as well but eehhh
I think because of the Finale of Apocalypse I believe the timeline changed that's why Ramirez is now at redwood
Maybe but it wasn't well established
That isn't how time travel works
Except they did not go back that far.
@@refinnej5302 they went to 2012 when Michael got hit by the 4×4 . And Richard Ramirez ghost got there 2013 .
@@bimbowithadegree420 true
I felt like they rushed the ending and added a lot to the story without us knowing what the characters are going to do
I agree! This was one of my favorite seasons! I loved the "campiness" to it as well, and the 80s in general. I love how much that Cody Fern looks like Andrew McCarthy. And I also agree, I wanted more closure to some of the ghosts stories! I'd be interested in a "Ghost Stories from AHS" series, with backstories on the ghosts, at least from season 9. All in all, great season. :)
I called this kind of plots the D&D syndrome.
But is true, the 80s will live forever, my brother say it was a great decade to be a young kid!
"Fire Festiv---I mean, Camp Redwood Festival." XD Love it.
This is litterally one id my favorite seasons, it was so goood
I like the fact that none of the ghosts had an ending to their stories because closure's not for the dead. Closure is for the living. Jonas didn't even get closure or any answers to his questions. I was expecting the authorities to interrupt the ghost mob and recapture Ramirez but that didn't happen.
Season 8: ending way too unsatisfactory
Season 9: ending way too satisfactory
I love this season !! Love the ending !!
This season is definitely going to be the best to binge. One of the biggest problem I had with the finale was the Ramirez inconsistency
So glad I found this channel... while I realized it wasn’t for everybody, it got me watching for the first time, since Freakshow. This episode aside from a couple of things, actually makes sense and you should have a reverence for 80s slashers, at least for me to really appreciate this season. While some of the red herrings were so blatantly obvious, I figured that was the point of it. While Richards “fate” , the longing for the ghosts to find a way out of Redwood and how Jonas was able to leave Camp Redwood every time are minor plot holes that will baffle me for awhile, they are still in line with the slasher genre. Not everything made sense (to this day I wonder what happened to Paul from Friday the 13th pt 2) 😂😂😂 The music was used perfectly and the ending actually threw me and I’m ok with it. I don’t think it took away from the story and it was still a way to be different if you have the actors to pull it off. Lily Rabe, John Lynch and Billie Lourd were amazing! The rest of the cast was great as well. ❤️ Margaret and glad she will spend eternity at Camp Hellhole succumbing to never ending death for decades to come.😂 If I had one complaint, I wish we had more Bertie. However Thanxs to Ahs1984, I will never forget their take on Strip Pictionary...😂😂😂😊🔪👍🏻😱😳🏃🏻🏃🏻♀️ and I’m glad that Emma was the final girl, finally....
1984 is my favorite season and this is a very satisfying finale.
I feel that the same idea that jingles mom could feel jingles back at the camp that it’s the same feeling of when Bobby came back
One of the best seasons ❤️
The ending had so many flaws that it really undermined and undid all the fun I had leading up to it.
I'm so happy Emma Roberts didn't get killed this season😁😁😁😁😁
i feel like in terms of seasons that can handle another season i think this season can be explored so much more with like the reasoning behind why they are all there and things like that. i hope this is revisited in later seasons
What a relief after season 7 and 8
In my opinion this season was flawless, I liked every character. I saw Mr.jingles as the main character, he had such an amazing character development. The gore was there, it made me laugh every episode, and the music was superb because of course it was the 80s. Also I would say the intro is the best one so far, just everything about this season was fantastic and had a good ending. Just sad I didn’t see Billy Idol as a guest appearance damn 😂
So. Many. Missed opportunities..
1). They could’ve brought Dylan McDermott back as a young Bloody Face Jr and this could’ve been the start of his serial killer journey...
2). Brooke’s ending was so fuckin stupid. I would’ve much preferred there being a bigger plot twist, and someone we least expected was the one sending Bobby money. Or at the very least it would’ve been badass if Brooke FINALLY accepted Satan’s offer and that’s why she survived. It would’ve also been a WAY better way to explain why she still looks 20 at age 50-60 instead of throwing in that she married a dermatologist... I don’t care how good a dermatologist he is, no 60 year old woman is gonna look 20 😂
3). Since it was Halloween night, the scene where Ray takes Brooke to the entrance after she got shot and then passed out just outside Camp could’ve been the PERFECT way for Ray to discover the ghosts can leave camp and rejoin the living for one night, and it would’ve given the other ghosts a happy ending.. especially Montana since she constantly talks about how she feels like she’s missing so much of the outside world. The scene was set up PERFECTLY to do this. Especially when Brooke fainted, it would’ve been epic for Ray to freak out because he loved her and ran out of the camp grounds to take her to the hospital.. but nope. It also would’ve given Jingles, Bobby, other Bobby, and Grandma a chance to be a family again at least for one night a year.
4). Satan was a pretty big part of this season, and since it takes place in, and just outside of LA, they could’ve shown Ramirez and Mr. Jingles visit the church of Satan or something when they left Camp Redwood. Or at the very least make some kind of reference to the satanists plotting the birth of the antichrist in the future.
Ugh. This season had so much potential and for a while it was very quickly becoming my favorite season.. and then this bullshit happened... not only that, but what the fuck happened to Ramirez? Last time we saw him, the ghosts were holding him back so he couldn’t get Bobby... and they literally have a 24/7 watch on him so they can kill him again when he comes back each time.... so are they just stuck doing that for the rest of eternity? If so, how the fuck was Ramirez able to visit Hotel in season 5? Lol. And Bobby knows Ramirez wants him dead and has the literal devil in him..but Bobby is now completely unbothered and is just like “oh well 🤷🏼♂️ I got to see my dead dad, uncle, & grandma.. I don’t mind there’s an immortal satanic lunatic serial killer who’s main goal is to slowly torture and kill me heh” ...and clearly the whole Ghost Watch is flawed.. Ramirez was able to escape once, and has all of eternity to do it again. Just seems stupid.
Like I said.. SO MANY MISSED OPPORTUNITIES and plot holes.
love the 80’s
L O V E D this season!!!
I feel like they fucked up by not simply aging brooke appropriately and breaking the fourth wall by telling us she has a dermatologist husband and that's why she looks so young and it gave everyone the wrong impression so every second comment is "DiD bRoOkE sElL hER sOuL tO sAtAn?!" which I don't think was their intention in the end lol
Agreed
I loved this season and episode. I also LOVE your breakdowns. My theory on why Mr. Jingles just showed up was pretty much explained by his mom. Remember she said she just felt a force or a pull and she knew it was her son just not the one she wanted. That's what I think happened there. Jingles Sr felt the presence of his son and was drawn to him. I think because of his guilt he remained hidden until Margaret threatened his life. He said he wouldn't let her kill his son. Anyway just my take and I hope you do a "how it SHOULD have ended"
My biggest problem is that in all over seasons with murdered spirits tied to the place of their death, they've always been able to leave the property on Halloween, yet these guys are stuck at Camp Redwood... and Margaret planned a massacre on Halloween during the festival? Just felt off to me on that part. I'll admit that hearing Mike + the Mechanics 'In the Living Years' at the end had me crying, but then that song always makes me misty eyed.
AGREED! One of my favorites seasons!!! This and Murder House... 👍👍👍 They certainly could build off of this season! Part 2... yes!
On the official wiki it says that the timeline from season 1-8 is called the erased timeline. It says that on multiple characters bio.
Loved this season! (Especially mimicking the campiness of 80’s flicks!) In my top 3 for sure! (Actually, probably my second favorite behind “Hotel”, with “Asylum” a VERY close third!) Sure, there are always a few questions left, & no season is perfect, but hey, VERY few shows are. Honestly, as a HUGE 80’s horror fan, this was the season I’ve been waiting for now, 8 long years. And I liked the nice ending, which is also kind of reminiscent of the 80’s movies they were mimicking. Gotta say, one of my favorite moments (& there were LOTS!) was the homage to the original Friday the 13th, with Benji being pulled out of the boat & into the water. Loved it, and was pretty sure it was coming sooner or later...lol. This season was clearly a love letter to 80’s culture, specifically slasher movies. And they BRILLIANTLY used 80’s music to add to the story! My only somewhat big complaint was it should have been at LEAST 10 episodes, so they could have explained things better, & had more of what happened during & immediately after the festival. And I was REALLY disappointed we didn’t get to at least see a few more performers, like the Go-Go’s, Rick Springfield & of course Billy Idol! (Wouldn’t Evan Peters have made a fantastic Billy?!) I didn’t need to see them perform, just make an appearance. Overall, I’d give this season a 9/10, & it would have gotten a 10 if they had of added another episode or two, explaining better the lingering questions. And I was expecting a cameo (one scene maybe) with Sarah Paulson playing her reporter persona, Lana Winters, maybe as a reporter doing a story on the massacre.
Side note: As far as Brooke looking so good at roughly 50, have you seen some celebs at 50+? With a bit of money, a LOT of Botox & plastic surgery, it could be easy!
Also, IRL Leslie Grossman is 48, (looks 30-33 at best) Sarah Paulson is 44, Lily Rabe is 37, & the gorgeous Angela Basset is 61! Yes, SIXTY ONE! So, could Brooke look 30 at age 50? You betcha! lol
*The initial bandage scene between Brooke and Ray reminds me of the bandage scene between Janet and Rocky in "Rocky Horror Picture Show."* 🥴
Yes, PLEASE do a Alternate Ending Video!!! 😍
-Margaret said she died before her head hit the woodchipper, but it seems weird to have that line in addition to a shot of the wind blatantly blowing her puree back into the camp.
-So how did Ramirez make it to March's dinner if he's stuck in Redwood? On the subject of throwaway lines, a simple "But one night a year he just disappears, we're not sure how or why" would have been fine.
-Lavinia being redeemed but the Redwood still being a purgatory seems odd, but on the other hand, it is the sight of multiple murders and massacres. It's reasonable that Lavinia started the curse, and all the other deaths cemented the curse beyond Lavinia's actions.
I miss it already. This season is definitely in my top 5 and was too short.
Mr. Jingles was on the bottom of the lake that Margaret claimed was bottomless. I think his family hung out there away from the others until he felt the presence his son, like Lavinia (spelling?), felt the presence hers even though she couldn't find him (Bobby) till her other son (Mr. Jingles) died too.
You gotta understand from they way the shoot the scenes to the storytelling it’s all in the likeness of the 80s which came with holes in plots and lack in back stories or giving us a understanding in general, cause now it messes with us to want to know and we use to talk about what we didn’t know from a movie or show we watched it’s genius really
I do have to agree with you about Brooke's ending, it was pretty weak. Her story just kinda... wiffed out. Same with Ramirez, like... it's funny that he's doomed to just be killed over and over again by the ghosts of Camp Redwood, but that's not really an ending. But I did like Mr. Jingles saving Bobby and Bobby getting to see his whole family, and the ghosts' redemption.
Margaret was able to res because she still died on the property. She died when her head went into contact w the blades of the chipper. She even said it herself.
I believe the ghosts can be seen by who they want to be seen by. They discussed that earlier in the season. I believe it was when jingles was looking for his mother. Potentially jingles didn't want to be seen. He was in the closest place to a heaven he was gonna get. Finally being reunited with his brother and a mother who is actually showing him love and affection. He had no need or want to show himself to anyone until his son was in danger.
I think Margaret was lying about jingles location. Just trying to drop his guard so she could get her revenge, but then jingles shows up out of nowhere to save him.
Really good season though. My favorite by far. However the ending was rushed and i would have liked to have seen it go a few more episodes.