Hi Fred, still trawling through all your videos mate but they never fail to deliver, not once! Thank you so much for sharing your amazing talent for pointing 'me' and everyone else back to their true nature!
Thanks, James. BTW folks, I just got a thank-you comment from a guy who'd been struggling for FORTY-SIX years. It has disappeared on me. It'll probably show back up later, but it's a bad one to get lost.
@@FredDavisNonduality Hi Fred! I've found it for you ( ibb.co/Xbb9PKC ). Thanks for the nice videos! I'd like to ask two Qs. I understand, that there is no free will, no isolated "I". My favourite mataphor, is that we are like a whirlpool in a rapid-flowing river. As Gary Weber pointed out, there is a system in the brain (default mode network, DMN), that joins the me-my-I thoughts to our actions after the fact. As the whirlpool shouldn't think it made the choice to float left or right (it just drifted with the current), neither should we think that we have agency. I think of the body-mind as an informational pattern, that unravels like a fractal (like a Mandelbrot set). As I understand, the task would be to not identify with the ego. With this surrendering, and not attaching to outcomes, suffering can fall away. So all we are trying to do with all of these subtle inquiries is to turn off the DMN. It's said, that enlightenment is not experiential, and it doesn't really change anything, it's just the knowing of your true SELF. Once I had an experience when the DMN definitely SHUT OFF for some seconds, it was true non-dual oneness, my only word to describe it, is it was ethereal! During that, I really saw the actions of my body as a movie :). So the Q is: couldn't life experience be really different with a most of the time turned-off DMN? Because then, enlightenment CAN HAVE an experiential angle. My other Q is about Csíkszentmihályi's FLOW state. In that, we loose the sense of egoic self (e.g. during playing tennis), we become one with the activity. Am I right in my assumption, that although it's really nice, it's not enough to claim it's an enlightened mode or way of living, as it lacks the subtle background knowledge of our SELF? (So you forget your egoic self, but also forget your true SELF!) Or simply just in everyday life, does it mean to live in a legitimately enlightened way, to ALWAYS have the subtle knowledge of your SELF IN AWARENESS (not in a thought form, but in a sense form)? So never forgetting it for a minute? Sorry for being a bit too complicated, and long! (A video would be extremely nice about the topic, but of course I'd also really appreciate an answer here :). Thanks!
You do a good job of pointing to that sense of being which is hard to describe. I would describe from my experience in these words.. is that realising/recognising that what it is that sees, observes , senses the “world” and body etc. whether localised or not isn’t a personal entity but what is actually doing the seeing is “space/awareness” itself and never was personal even though I believed it for so long previously. In other words it boils down to a case of misidentity .
I like doing the backwards looking. Although it's unprovable, I like to imagine how it was prior to the sense of being. Just the unmanifested infinite voidless/void where all was just the potential of existence and pure unmanifested knowledge (laws of physics, biology, chemistry, mathematics, etc.) Then, in that moment the "sense of being" arose and the awareness "I am", unleashing itself into manifestation by way of the big bang.
Hi, Kyle! Good to hear from you. We do well to remember that the laws of physics, biology, etc., occur in the dream. Even within relativity Newtonian physics clash with subatomic physics. What's really real? What's really true? Find out What wants to know and the rest falls into place. However, there is still no personal understanding within the Understanding.
@@FredDavisNonduality "Newtonian physics clash with subatomic physics" This statement is kind of outdated, though I am curious to understand your meaning. Newtonian physics was replaced by the theory of relativity (Einstein's relativity, not the relative world you are referring to when you use the term). It is true to say that so far physicists and mathematicians have been unable to unify Einstein's relativity with the Quantum Mechanical theory. This is due to our inability to quantize gravity. It seems like a bit of a stretch to say that since we don't understand something, that it's not real. Relativity is real (your relativity), its just not true. Honestly I've had a bit of a hard time with this video because it seems to make a lot of assumptions. First and foremost that there is/was some sort of evolutionary process within that which we are. I can only speak of my direct experience here but that experience was of a very clear message that "you cannot understand this and that is ok". I'd like some further clarification on this, but I'll be talking to you Wednesday and I'm sure this will come up.
I am aware of a sense of subjectivity, what I think of as a singularity of subjectivity, "THE subject". Is that what you mean by the sense of being? Also, it still seems to be at least a subtle ofbject since there is awareness of it, and if that is the case then it is not the real subject after all, but what's beyond, or behind that is Tao...the indescribable and unknowable. or am I way off base here?
Hi Fred, still trawling through all your videos mate but they never fail to deliver, not once! Thank you so much for sharing your amazing talent for pointing 'me' and everyone else back to their true nature!
You're generous in your praise. Thanks for your support.
This is so awesome. You're so right! The "sense of being is more primal, or further back, so to speak than I AM". That's so true!
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Really Goood Fred, Thank you for this one and all the others you have laid out prio to this..James
Thank you, James. I'm glad you find this work helpful.
Thanks, James.
BTW folks, I just got a thank-you comment from a guy who'd been struggling for FORTY-SIX years. It has disappeared on me. It'll probably show back up later, but it's a bad one to get lost.
@@FredDavisNonduality Hi Fred! I've found it for you ( ibb.co/Xbb9PKC ). Thanks for the nice videos! I'd like to ask two Qs. I understand, that there is no free will, no isolated "I". My favourite mataphor, is that we are like a whirlpool in a rapid-flowing river. As Gary Weber pointed out, there is a system in the brain (default mode network, DMN), that joins the me-my-I thoughts to our actions after the fact. As the whirlpool shouldn't think it made the choice to float left or right (it just drifted with the current), neither should we think that we have agency. I think of the body-mind as an informational pattern, that unravels like a fractal (like a Mandelbrot set). As I understand, the task would be to not identify with the ego. With this surrendering, and not attaching to outcomes, suffering can fall away. So all we are trying to do with all of these subtle inquiries is to turn off the DMN. It's said, that enlightenment is not experiential, and it doesn't really change anything, it's just the knowing of your true SELF. Once I had an experience when the DMN definitely SHUT OFF for some seconds, it was true non-dual oneness, my only word to describe it, is it was ethereal! During that, I really saw the actions of my body as a movie :). So the Q is: couldn't life experience be really different with a most of the time turned-off DMN? Because then, enlightenment CAN HAVE an experiential angle. My other Q is about Csíkszentmihályi's FLOW state. In that, we loose the sense of egoic self (e.g. during playing tennis), we become one with the activity. Am I right in my assumption, that although it's really nice, it's not enough to claim it's an enlightened mode or way of living, as it lacks the subtle background knowledge of our SELF? (So you forget your egoic self, but also forget your true SELF!) Or simply just in everyday life, does it mean to live in a legitimately enlightened way, to ALWAYS have the subtle knowledge of your SELF IN AWARENESS (not in a thought form, but in a sense form)? So never forgetting it for a minute? Sorry for being a bit too complicated, and long! (A video would be extremely nice about the topic, but of course I'd also really appreciate an answer here :). Thanks!
Thankyou Fred you have hit the bullseye yet again.
Thanks!
Great peace and silence ! Tank you for this guidance!😇
You're welcome!
Great video! So, who we really are is what is beyond the sense of being?
Yes!
Come to Satsang, love.
Fred your the man! Thanks heaps for what you do. You helped me to wake up and now I'm doing videos on UA-cam also 🙏
Keep it up!
Thanks for the encouragement 👍
Thank you Fred Davis for your insight and humor 😊
Thanks, Trask!
You do a good job of pointing to that sense of being which is hard to describe. I would describe from my experience in these words.. is that realising/recognising that what it is that sees, observes , senses the “world” and body etc. whether localised or not isn’t a personal entity but what is actually doing the seeing is “space/awareness” itself and never was personal even though I believed it for so long previously. In other words it boils down to a case of misidentity .
Excellent!
Space means that is empty of objects , so calls it (Pure awareness = awarenesss without object)
it's the mix of both Space and Awareness
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Thanks a lot! You've nailed it! But it also is coming and going...
To whom?
@@FredDavisNonduality seems like nobody's home, when the thinking stops...
Thank you Fred ,is I am the senses with out verbal,Is that I am every bit of it like the space . Thank you
Hey, Neena! Yes!
I like doing the backwards looking. Although it's unprovable, I like to imagine how it was prior to the sense of being. Just the unmanifested infinite voidless/void where all was just the potential of existence and pure unmanifested knowledge (laws of physics, biology, chemistry, mathematics, etc.) Then, in that moment the "sense of being" arose and the awareness "I am", unleashing itself into manifestation by way of the big bang.
Hi, Kyle! Good to hear from you.
We do well to remember that the laws of physics, biology, etc., occur in the dream. Even within relativity Newtonian physics clash with subatomic physics. What's really real? What's really true?
Find out What wants to know and the rest falls into place. However, there is still no personal understanding within the Understanding.
@@FredDavisNonduality "Newtonian physics clash with subatomic physics" This statement is kind of outdated, though I am curious to understand your meaning. Newtonian physics was replaced by the theory of relativity (Einstein's relativity, not the relative world you are referring to when you use the term). It is true to say that so far physicists and mathematicians have been unable to unify Einstein's relativity with the Quantum Mechanical theory. This is due to our inability to quantize gravity. It seems like a bit of a stretch to say that since we don't understand something, that it's not real. Relativity is real (your relativity), its just not true.
Honestly I've had a bit of a hard time with this video because it seems to make a lot of assumptions. First and foremost that there is/was some sort of evolutionary process within that which we are. I can only speak of my direct experience here but that experience was of a very clear message that "you cannot understand this and that is ok".
I'd like some further clarification on this, but I'll be talking to you Wednesday and I'm sure this will come up.
I am aware of a sense of subjectivity, what I think of as a singularity of subjectivity, "THE subject". Is that what you mean by the sense of being? Also, it still seems to be at least a subtle ofbject since there is awareness of it, and if that is the case then it is not the real subject after all, but what's beyond, or behind that is Tao...the indescribable and unknowable. or am I way off base here?
Sounds dead-on to me!
After 46 years of endeavor, finally things are clear.. Thanks Fred
Stillness is...thankyou ❤🙏
Thank YOU, Susan♥
Thank you ^^
You're welcome 😊