Ok what I see is too much oil on that board😅 I mean you are not supposed to soak it in oil, especially when it's a newer guitar like that, I think the saddle is quite low now which might be fine, but you definitely loose some vibration transfer when playing this low on an acoustic, most people want an acoustic to feel like their electric guitar but that's just not possible and doesn't make sense🤘🏻
There is no break angle on this setup. Sanding the saddle that low might affect the guitar's intonation, bridge must be trimmed together with the saddle slot so that break angle won't be compromised.
trimming the bridge is going to do jack shit for the break angle. Unfortunately, what that guitar's gonna need on its next visit is a new saddle and a neck reset.
I have recently done this to 3 of my acoustics and they all play better than when I purchased them. I like the use of the sharpie for depth. I spend a lot of time sanding and retrying its depth so that I dont over do it.
@@DesmondL111 I saw a video about that and was thinking about doing that on mine. I've already gone as low as I can on the saddle and was thinking about sanding down the bridge, but it's not easy maintaining the curve.
Not so easy man! You must play every string at every fret to check if at full strenght picking the string doesen't whip against the fret. Any brand, metal kind and gauge of strings need different setup, and sometimes on some acoustic guitar is pratically impossible to have the perfect sound on each string, and needs to have bridge inclination modified or some frets sanded to make thoese lower.😜
MY MAN, I've been a "PRO" GTR player 4 over Decades! I've worked at Several "Music" stores & was taught how 2 String, Set up,(intonation, nut,frets, etc) I'm NOT a rookie at this!! PLEASE don't question my credentials &/or how many Guitars I own & PLAY!! NO hard feelings ur just WRONG
BOO!! I've been doing this over 4 Decades!! I own a few dozen gtr's & EVERY 1 plays better than THIS 2nd "Martin" that I've been sent!! Almost, ALL my Acoustics R cheapys! They ALL play better with 2-3 yr old strings on em..... stop
@@markkurucar216 Ha ha, the longer people do things slightly wrong, the more we believe we are doing things okay. I am a suspect too. Example? Many people never even think about what tuning we use. It is darn equal temperament, because everybody has that, and many people do not even understand what it is. When the guitar player only plays a handful of chords, and when he plays all by himself or herself, well, you might consider cutting and shifting some frets. Again, no offense, probably you BOTH know such things. Of course you got a fretless guitar, too. Just like I do. You never hear fret buzz, on a fretless guitar. Setup can be lower, and the risk of buzz is back. But okay, what do you all need these frets for, anyway? Ever thought about that? Just asking, just asking. It's a wake up call, that's all. A violin owner would kill you, if you had the guts to install frets on the violin. Why is that? Huh? Maybe it is time for changing?
So you dropped the bridge. How much tone/toned volume did it lose? Did the sound move back toward it. Did you replace the bridge or use same one. If you replaced it, is there a particular brand your prefer? (Sorry about all the questions, but that's what I need to know.
You have people who play guitar/ react to those who play guitar and those who work on guitars. My suspicion is that the neck angle is off on the guitar and is the reason why he shaved the saddle so low.
That's What's funky about ALL this!! NO. The Neck & Bridge are "STRAIGHT"? I quess I must VOID my "Lifetime" warranty & just totally redo this POS myself. Will do 😘
@@mr.k1t Do you mean twostroke oil? Or fourstroke oil? I'm just curious WHAT oil you use, and just "mineral" sounds like my blunt uncles. Do you have angry Dutch farmers as your ancestors?! They love monosyllable grunts and the tone gives away the mood. Do you have that? Mineral oil. Sounds like a death sentence. No offense, just curious. What mineral oil? Does your guitar stink, now?
I love my D28 but I have a couple LL series Japanese Yamahas that cost a third and sound just as good and feel and play better and easier. But they don’t have that intoxicating smell that the D28 has coming out of the case!
What is Krylon? You Yanks have so many weird words, I often get angry when you manage to pop up a new nonsense word. Sure I can Google this shit. Do you have any idea what chemicals you put your own finger tips in, playing?
That oil you must wipe in circles, 15 minutes after applying. Then the oil will cure, it gets solid. And that is why is does NOT get to your strings. Read the text on the bottle of linseed oil. You see if it works fine for other oil. Besides, do not apply too much oil. Too much means, well, too much. Am I really typing this? Yes, sometimes the obvious is not obvious enough. Good luck. Please try wiping out your drip of oil very franticly, dry cloth, and see how it works out. Almond oil smells great. How does Krylon smell? Like dyneema?
@voornaam3191 as an Painter, I've never found linseed oil to be durable for being touched with fingers, it can get sticky clumpy in time, hence, the need to keep redoing it. Urethane oil base clear is more resistant to salt and skin oil and doesn't clump up ever. Less maintenance.
seriously.... i have a Martin sigma... over 30 years old... looked after by a french Maître comangion Luthier... NEVER would i or he have just chopped off the strings at the mechanics like that! the string has to sound all the way to the end...
Are you suggesting that you hear a difference with trimmed strings? If it was even humanly possible to denote such a difference it wouldn’t benefit for any vibration to fizzle out through untrimmed strings. You want all vibration going through the bridge and nut. Any movement left past the nut, which is practically nil should go through the tuners.
Non appoggiare le corde sulla tavola armonica della chitarra!!! Se si graffia?? Eppure è una Martin un po' di attenzione in più ci dovrebbe essere!!! Sono piccole cose ma fanno la differenza se posso fidarmi oppure no di un liutaio! Ciao....
@@x5-acousticguitarstuff.2yes it is entirely too low. The next time instead of pitching the neck they'll just sand away at the top of the bridge so they can lower it even more. .....or perhaps saw slots into the bridge so the strings break closer to the saddle so it can go lower. I see these kinds of hack repairs all the time. Either that thing was insanely under pitched from the factory or he's expecting it to play like a Les Paul. It looks pretty new.
Hack---- wrong. All wrong, you did nothing but bugger the intonation more and destroy the break angle- no truss rod adjustment, no nut work, not fret work. I have zero respect for this at all. Not sorry.
NO PLAYA!! For 1, Why the Hell should I pay 4 ANOTHER set up? After, I've sent 1 of These "Martin's", Recieved ANOTHER IDENTICAL Guitar & it pays like ASS 2?? MARTIN SHOULD PAY!! Have U ever thought about that, GENIUS? S T F U
Oh there is NOTHING quite like a Martin. My dream guitar.
Yamaha is equally as good as Martin too
I’ve played on Yamaha and Martin and both are great
Nah have you ever played a Torres???
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Beautiful job on a beautiful guitar.
I mean it'll do, I'd just let the customer know that it'll be neck reset time next go round.
That's exactly what I was thinking lol but I guess it makes sense to get around a neck reset as long as possible since it's so involved
The guitar is too new for a neck set up. If it does need one, Martin has lost its ability to build quality guitars.
@@cargueone1971that’s like every guitar company dude
Was thinking the same thing
No it doesn't.
Ok what I see is too much oil on that board😅 I mean you are not supposed to soak it in oil, especially when it's a newer guitar like that, I think the saddle is quite low now which might be fine, but you definitely loose some vibration transfer when playing this low on an acoustic, most people want an acoustic to feel like their electric guitar but that's just not possible and doesn't make sense🤘🏻
I AGREE!! SHIT, I thought everyone was ragging MY situation? I apologize 2 ALL!!
i gotta stop reading comments...
How many quarts of oil does that fretboard hold?
youtube is reading my goddamn mind cause i thought about doing this to my acoustic earlier
Exactly! I came online to search "how to remove guitar bridge", and this vid was sitting right there at the top of my homepage.
There is no break angle on this setup. Sanding the saddle that low might affect the guitar's intonation, bridge must be trimmed together with the saddle slot so that break angle won't be compromised.
trimming the bridge is going to do jack shit for the break angle. Unfortunately, what that guitar's gonna need on its next visit is a new saddle and a neck reset.
Actually when you trim the bridge down you maintain the saddle height and break angle..Jack
I have recently done this to 3 of my acoustics and they all play better than when I purchased them. I like the use of the sharpie for depth. I spend a lot of time sanding and retrying its depth so that I dont over do it.
@@wea69420 Of course shaving down the bridge would help. Better option is to just carve slots into the bridge pin holes.
@@DesmondL111 I saw a video about that and was thinking about doing that on mine. I've already gone as low as I can on the saddle and was thinking about sanding down the bridge, but it's not easy maintaining the curve.
В удавку на колке струна. Респект!👍
Self proclaimed "set up master's" in comments...guitar worth more than their car.
Thank you.
Love my tu12 w accupitch. Pro tech here 25 years . Love watching your stuff
Just perfect
Just get a neck reset, there’s no saddle left….
Awesome 😎
You sanded down the saddle before you checked the truss rod?
Beautifulllllll
Neck reset time !
I thought at least the Allen wrench would appear at the end for a little nudge...
Maybe it’s the camera angle but that sanded bridge saddle looks mighty low.
Not so easy man! You must play every string at every fret to check if at full strenght picking the string doesen't whip against the fret. Any brand, metal kind and gauge of strings need different setup, and sometimes on some acoustic guitar is pratically impossible to have the perfect sound on each string, and needs to have bridge inclination modified or some frets sanded to make thoese lower.😜
MY MAN, I've been a "PRO" GTR player 4 over Decades!
I've worked at Several "Music" stores & was taught how 2 String, Set up,(intonation, nut,frets, etc) I'm NOT a rookie at this!! PLEASE don't question my credentials &/or how many Guitars I own & PLAY!! NO hard feelings ur just WRONG
BOO!! I've been doing this over 4 Decades!! I own a few dozen gtr's & EVERY 1 plays better than THIS 2nd "Martin" that I've been sent!! Almost, ALL my Acoustics R cheapys!
They ALL play better with 2-3 yr old strings on em..... stop
Is thoese a new word? Both these and those? Clever!
@@markkurucar216 Ha ha, the longer people do things slightly wrong, the more we believe we are doing things okay. I am a suspect too.
Example? Many people never even think about what tuning we use. It is darn equal temperament, because everybody has that, and many people do not even understand what it is. When the guitar player only plays a handful of chords, and when he plays all by himself or herself, well, you might consider cutting and shifting some frets. Again, no offense, probably you BOTH know such things. Of course you got a fretless guitar, too. Just like I do. You never hear fret buzz, on a fretless guitar. Setup can be lower, and the risk of buzz is back. But okay, what do you all need these frets for, anyway? Ever thought about that? Just asking, just asking. It's a wake up call, that's all. A violin owner would kill you, if you had the guts to install frets on the violin. Why is that? Huh? Maybe it is time for changing?
Your over thinking it
That action was a little hight but it really wasn’t terrible
could you please share the links of accessories you used
Looks pretty new, or handled with Kid gloves!?!
Either way, lovely Martin!
The best size string for a guitar 3/4
Best size string depends on the player and WHAT he plays. Why didn't you finish your HALF sentence? WHAT do you think is best size? I have no
Say goodbuy to your buffness in sound making .... Neck angle should be adjusted on acoustic guitars for low string action...
My Perfect Action and Sound 1/1.25 6/1.75 with nubone nut and tusq saddle
Slot that bridge
Perfect 🔥
Yup. Totally do-able in 50 seconds...When Superman does it at superspeed!
AMEN!! & MAY THE FORCE BE WITH "US" ALWAYS.....😷😇
So you dropped the bridge. How much tone/toned volume did it lose? Did the sound move back toward it. Did you replace the bridge or use same one. If you replaced it, is there a particular brand your prefer? (Sorry about all the questions, but that's what I need to know.
Are you concerned that the break angle on the bridge is low?
Angle is ok. It can be a little bit lower.
The angle is definitely way too low
You have people who play guitar/ react to those who play guitar and those who work on guitars. My suspicion is that the neck angle is off on the guitar and is the reason why he shaved the saddle so low.
I guess he's not. Sanding the saddle that low might affect the guitar's intonation, bridge must be trimmed so that break angle won't be compromised.
That's What's funky about ALL this!! NO. The Neck & Bridge are "STRAIGHT"? I quess I must VOID my "Lifetime" warranty & just totally redo this POS myself. Will do 😘
Full video ?
Winding the string with that knot technique is so unnecessary
what type of sandpaper should i use for the bridge saddle?
That looked like a lot you shaved off the saddle.
She did
must the nut be perfectly sized as the slot or can it be a bit thinner?
How does this affect intonation?
Que tipo de aceite le ponen al diapason para hidratarlo
What glue goes on bridges
But is it normal for the string to harden when the action is lowered?
How tall is that guitar bridge?
Should you go to truss rod first?Rather than after sanding the saddle? I’m new to this
Truss rod goes first
Yes, right.
Ah, I just sanded my saddle first 😂. But I still have 3mm at the 12 fret
What grit of sandpaper is ideal for sanding the saddle?
I used 320
What do u use to clean the fretboard and what oil did u use?
Dunlop 01 and white spirit. Mineral oil
IT'S A BRAND NEW MARTIN ACOUSTIC GUITAR!! NO
@@mr.k1t Do you mean twostroke oil? Or fourstroke oil? I'm just curious WHAT oil you use, and just "mineral" sounds like my blunt uncles. Do you have angry Dutch farmers as your ancestors?! They love monosyllable grunts and the tone gives away the mood. Do you have that? Mineral oil. Sounds like a death sentence. No offense, just curious. What mineral oil? Does your guitar stink, now?
What do you recommend for the body if it's a natural matte wood finish instead of a glossy finish?
Wax is a good choice, or if you have exposed wood, use osmo oil
Кабы все проблемы с гитарами решались так же просто
Кабы все было так просто, меня бы не угораздило стать гитарным мастером.
I did it with mine and it sounds like is buzzing a little bit
Amigo cómo bajas el puente a medida
why do all these expensive as sh*t guitars always come badly setup tho?
You would think that a $2500 guitar from Martin would be perfectly set up.
You forgot to cut the strings in half with wire cutters.
If your just playing bluegrass and country like most people do with them type
Which string u use. I mean string gauge?
12-54
Martin guitars. Can't beat em👍
I love my D28 but I have a couple LL series Japanese Yamahas that cost a third and sound just as good and feel and play better and easier. But they don’t have that intoxicating smell that the D28 has coming out of the case!
There rare some amazing Martins, and a lot of shit Martins too.
it is still very high
Not a chance on my martin
I use a clear coat of Krylon on my fret board. The oil folks put on the fret board just gets on the strings, taking the life out of them sooner.
What is Krylon? You Yanks have so many weird words, I often get angry when you manage to pop up a new nonsense word. Sure I can Google this shit. Do you have any idea what chemicals you put your own finger tips in, playing?
That oil you must wipe in circles, 15 minutes after applying. Then the oil will cure, it gets solid. And that is why is does NOT get to your strings. Read the text on the bottle of linseed oil. You see if it works fine for other oil. Besides, do not apply too much oil. Too much means, well, too much. Am I really typing this? Yes, sometimes the obvious is not obvious enough. Good luck. Please try wiping out your drip of oil very franticly, dry cloth, and see how it works out. Almond oil smells great. How does Krylon smell? Like dyneema?
@voornaam3191 as an Painter, I've never found linseed oil to be durable for being touched with fingers, it can get sticky clumpy in time, hence, the need to keep redoing it. Urethane oil base clear is more resistant to salt and skin oil and doesn't clump up ever. Less maintenance.
Krylon has a sweet odor and once cured, no smell at all.
Saddle looks WAY too low....
What do you call the end of the Guitar that looks like a long line?
Saddle
How did you know how much to sand off?
Experience)
@@mr.k1t haha, nice.
Nice setup until you need a neck reset… $$$
Martin, okay. But who is Co? There is a co-builder on the headstock. Who the F is that?
Co means company.
This guy knows guitars
If you scratch your saddle your guitar strings will vibration to much i have used this trick it's not helpful sorry but it's true 😅
Bridge saddle looks awful low.
Lower Sadler less volume. Wrong move
55 seconds
Use the adjustable truss rod to adjust that action
The truss rod is not made for adjusting action.lol
Thank you for this. What do you personally recommend for action setting on the 12th? Thank you.
Isn’t that saddle a bit too shaved away? Or is there no such thing?
This is the perfect height for this guitar, it has issues with neck angle.
It also ahouldn't just drop in like that. Press fit is optimal.
@@mr.k1t Then reset the neck.
What string guage?
12-54
what is the action now?
1.3 mm - 1.6mm
Why didn’t you play something on that?!?!?
最初と最後の、弦高を測るところを、もう少し長く止めてもらった方が嬉しい。
Wtf no it's too low
Conditioning richlite?
It was ebony
Can you make a slower version on how to knot the strings
Hmmm?
seriously.... i have a Martin sigma... over 30 years old... looked after by a french Maître comangion Luthier...
NEVER would i or he have just chopped off the strings at the mechanics like that! the string has to sound all the way to the end...
Are you suggesting that you hear a difference with trimmed strings? If it was even humanly possible to denote such a difference it wouldn’t benefit for any vibration to fizzle out through untrimmed strings. You want all vibration going through the bridge and nut. Any movement left past the nut, which is practically nil should go through the tuners.
И звука нестало
Sanding tha nut down always comes after truss rod adjustment
It’s the saddle he sanded. But I see what you mean.
@Bubba Medina you never touch the saddle until you adjust the truss rod. Period...
Bridgenut is waaaaayyy to low
I bet it buzz like a rattle snake
nope
@@mr.k1t we won't know unless there's a test
That fretboard doesn't require oil as it's made out of glasslite, not rosewood
It`s ebony
I'm certain you never tire of being incorrect
How did you know to file your saddle?
Just an experience
But now the Saddle is too low. You do not know what you're doing.
It’s fine
Ok boomer
too much string buildup on tune peg
LOL drown the board in shit. Achieve incorrect break angle. Did you recommend the neck reset?
Non appoggiare le corde sulla tavola armonica della chitarra!!! Se si graffia?? Eppure è una Martin un po' di attenzione in più ci dovrebbe essere!!! Sono piccole cose ma fanno la differenza se posso fidarmi oppure no di un liutaio! Ciao....
a plastic saddle
Bit of nonsense!
I'll just buy a taylor
Why, because getting an acoustic setup properly is so inconvenient?
NOPE!! Looking 4 an OLD "GIBSON OR GUILD"!! 🤑
Thank u but we learned nothing from this
You can watch my full video if you want to learn something.
@@mr.k1t Then I will, thank u 😊
@@mr.k1t
No,
Nothing new to show @
Sanding a saddle isn't a setup.
@@x5-acousticguitarstuff.2yes it is entirely too low. The next time instead of pitching the neck they'll just sand away at the top of the bridge so they can lower it even more. .....or perhaps saw slots into the bridge so the strings break closer to the saddle so it can go lower. I see these kinds of hack repairs all the time. Either that thing was insanely under pitched from the factory or he's expecting it to play like a Les Paul. It looks pretty new.
Hack---- wrong. All wrong, you did nothing but bugger the intonation more and destroy the break angle- no truss rod adjustment, no nut work, not fret work. I have zero respect for this at all. Not sorry.
im confused, did it come with that horrific action? Questioning Martin
Dude, Mine came with TERRIBLE action!! I own a couple dozen Guitars & this BRAND NEW MARTIN is Almost unplayable!! $1100 waste of money......😢
@@markkurucar216 that sucks man. I might end up going with Taylor if thats the case
@@markkurucar216 I have a crazy idea; Bring it to a good shop for a complete setup. I know I know, utter insanity
NO PLAYA!! For 1, Why the Hell should I pay 4 ANOTHER set up? After, I've sent 1 of These "Martin's", Recieved ANOTHER IDENTICAL Guitar & it pays like ASS 2?? MARTIN SHOULD PAY!! Have U ever thought about that, GENIUS?
S T F U
ABSOLUTELY "YES"!!
Not a setup,, you just changed strings
Realy? What about nut and truss rod adjustment. What else should have been done?
I don’t think you know what a setup is
This isn’t a set up.
It's gonna play awfully 😒😒
It’s a Martin. It will play like a dream.
Then you got the problem with intonation :D
Fammi vedere l'angolo delle corde che vanno dal traversi o ai Piroli...!?
Slot your bridge!!! Too much fretboard lube!! Your damn frets are gonna eventually pop-out!!! Wrong.wrong.wrong!!!😅
You also must be a politician as well...to mislead us in your tall tales!