The reduced tar looks like it has more to do with the fact that this seems to be a charcoal gasifier instead of a wood gasifier. Just my opinion though
I hope this message gets spread around. People often say that something is x times less of something. Think about this; if you have something a generator that burns 2 gallons of gas in a day. Now you have some real numbers to work with and just like when you were a kid growing up the rest of this becomes a math "word" problem. (Geez did I hate these. Interesting that I became a machine design design engineer where every problem is basically a word problem. I digress.) So, you now have something like 2gal / 1day = 2 gal per day; Now multiply that times your factor or percentage and you get something like 2 gal/day x 25 (your factor) = 50 gal/day. Now you started out with using only 2 gallons and the rate so we are talking about 50 gallons BUT now you are using something that is this much less than the original use so you have 2 - 50 = --48 gal. Since we started out as a consumption as a positive value this would mean that you are getting 48 gallons back {essentially you need to flip the signs for this to be easier to understand}. I WANT ONE OF THESE, IN FACT I'LL TAKE 2 !!! Hope you don't mind the gibe, it is just one of my pet peeves and LOTS of people make this mistake. Haven't actually watched the vid yet but looks interesting. I'll give you straight up one later. :)
Tar is a big problem with gasifiers because it will gum up car engines and cause failure. Most solutions use a large filter box or tank of water to remove it from the syngas, but that's tough to fit in a vehicle. Another solution is to burn at very high temperature to break down the tar into lighter hydrocarbons but that's tough to do in a car because of the fire hazard. The technical challenge is finding a way to gasify without seizing up your engine or blowing yourself up!
'Times less of something" is not good at all. Even "times more of something" is not good, because most people would believe it is the same as "times the amount of something. I think it can be better to use % sometimes Some amount more/less is OK Times an amount of something is OK Times more of something is bad Better to use % more of something Times less of something, is usually used wrong, thus really bad. Way better to use % less 25 times less than 50 50 - 50×25 = 50 - 1250 = -1200 25 times more than 2 2 + 2×25 = 52 25 times the amount of 2 2×25 = 50 If you use -1200 gal/day, that's efficient 96% less than 50 50 - 50×96% = 50 - 48 = 2 !!! Note !!! Using a negative number is gaining, while gaining a negative number would be using Whichever way one wants to calculate a number, it is important to pay attention to the wording to describe it. Otherwise there might be serious ambiguity issues, or plain mistakes.
"Times X less" drives me up the wall too. So does zero point fifteen. Its like an entire generation has taken a blow to the head and shed a couple dozen IQ points.
When you need heat, you usually need electricity too, since there is very little solar power during winter. You generate electricity and recover all waste heat.
Hello Mr. Chakraborty, this looks very interesting and it reminds me at something that's called the Drizzler Gasifier, which was developed by some dutch guy and after him some other german guys. For me the idea of permanent gasifier work and not one hopper after another seems very promising. Didn't know the Imbert type did wear so fast. Avoiding tar is important too.....
i really like my downdraft boiler made in poland. i bet you have a good gasification system. you need a regional distributor in the americas. people are just incredulous until they see it running a generator well and good. they really have a perspective similar to the regard for impossible free energy machines. the heat exchangers need that all the tar precipitating surfaces be accessible for rapid thorough cleaningi will contact my agent, zenon, about direct import so you can have a showroom dealer in the center of the contiguous states.
Combining that with SOFC fuel cell would be good idea. Sofc benefits hot syngas and air, and the efficiency can be over 60%. Sofc exhaust gas is also much hotter than from internal combustion engine.
How about starting an engine with e.g. propane and heating an airless jacketed pyrolysis reactor with exhaust fumes to 800°C and then switching the engine to pyrolysis gas?
I wana do this in canada as making a finished product to implement as a positive energy transfer with a cpl desine changes and better controles to regulate the prosses i think
NO it does not. Just wants to make money from "rich" westerners. Just doesn't understand we have the same problems they do just scraping by..... Just without the communism
So it still generates plenty of tar, but by cleverly cooling the produced gas, you make the tar condense, collect, and not reach the engine. Is that what you mean?
I would like to build a microsystem for stationary home usage(10 kWh max). Is it possible to recover heat to heat water? How can I contact you to inquire pricing?
Hello I am interested in a gasifier that can generate approximately 250-300KW electricity 460V 3PHASE AT 60hz. We have a large supply of dry woodchips from a pallet operation to run the gasifier
What made you decide to make the gasifier with way higher efficiency ??? Would you be able to make a wood stove high ninety percent efficient ??? Thanks for your time Sir.
there is more emphasis on getting rid of the resin, you can make a gas generator with an efficiency of 92%, I did not do wood stoves. I specialize only in gas generators
I can calculate the project if you want, in principle, I have already told everything in detail who was engaged in gas generators himself can do it myself
Where is the burning area ? at the base where is the grate or at the preheated air intake in top part where is conection with fuel hopper? In what part of system you start the fire?
What if you get pulled over and the cops see this in your car now you're in violation of the car's emissions standards because you're not running the car on the fuel per manufacturers recommendations. What kind of fine would that be
In California you have to register your vehicle as experimental ( limited duration ) and afterwards as a design once you have smog impact issues mitigated . Pyrolysed compressed gas is actually much easier in California because of compressed natural gas vehicles already having approved registration procedures .
Have the vehicle registered in a county that doesn't check emissions. Police don't pull people over to check if they're violating emissions standards. But if they see you're using an alternative fuel, they may give you a ticket for avoiding paying road tax, so pay your road tax online and keep the reciept in the glove box.
Do you have a link to the plans with a general explanation of the concept? There are no useful details in this video, it's essentially an advertisement.
@@fireandforge I did, there is nothing substantive there, most people who are serious about this sort of thing will discuss specifics rather than advertise their services as a contractor.
@@matthewkolar7560 True, Some of the schematics at the end gave enough information if you know what to look for. Personally I would follow Flash001's design. I bought the wood gassifiers bible and followed the war between him and that off grid guy. Glad I didn't follow the plan and did more research. Plan to build mine later this year and I don't feel like doing it twice
@@fireandforge They are woefully incomplete, especially of the critical information (the bit about the new reactor interval for recycling, it's listed in the schematic as "?")
@@matthewkolar7560 I haven't seen much info on that and wonder how much is star dust and how much is truth. Many industries still use gassification and I am sure if there was an easier way to get rid of tar it would have been done already. The process is viable just not practical, efficient and simple as LPG or Gasoline.
then it is better to make a wood pyrolyzer - pyrolysis gas 4200 kcal against generator 1100 kcal and compressed into cylinders at a pressure of 150-200 atmospheres, this will be close to natural gas 7600 kcal
@@gengaz-lagunov How do you store the gas safely? My understanding is that the hydrogen in the gas will cause embrittlement of the steel tank and weaken it.
@@terrancebecker9092 Do you...not understand electricity comes from some other source? Do you not understand that we have built internal combustion engines before that are far more robust than what is found today and thus can be repaired more often than not with homemade or locally manufactured parts? Try that with a Tesla battery or one of its 2,769 modules. Theres a reason Farmall almost went about of business- because they never sold any parts.
Cracks? Ceramic is very resistant to heat, but it doesn't do well with stress from physical forces - like driving a car over a bumpy road. And it also cracks with repeated heating/cooling cycles. Especially when temperature change is fast - what you want here when you start gassifier and want to run your engine fast. And ceramics also can take moisture from the air, which further speeds up cracks forming.
I'm having trouble contacting you on whatsapp. There's no +38 option for me here in the states. But all the same, I'd like to talk with you about gasifier design cause I have some design ideas.
@@ericmieremet The Electronics The vehicle it self is controlled by electronics . An EMP (High Frequency) destroys electronics. Rendering this useless. Low tech or no tech are the only probable solutions post EMP. Shalom
10 - 50 times less? That makes no sense. If something is less than something else it is a fraction of that thing. Not a multiple of it. it could be 50% less, or 1/3 as much etc.. but not 10 times less. Even just 1 times less than any number brings you to 0, so 10 to 50 times less tar is absolutely incorrect.
What is the meaning of 10%? It's 10/100 right? So it is also 1/10. It means it is 10 times less than 1. if it's 50 times less, then it's 1/50 = 2/100 and this is 2%
@@ogi22 Wrong. This is what im trying to explain... "1 times less than" is "100% less than".... 2 times less than means 200% less than etc etc. SO 1 times less than ( 100% less than ) any number is 0.
@@ogi22 What do you think 50 times means? it means 50 of whatever number you are miltiplying by right? so 50 times 2 is fifty lots of 2... which is 100. IF ive got 2 apples.. how many apples can you take off me? You can only take 2 apples because thats all ive got.. you can only take 100% of my apples from me cant you? and that is 1 times. You can only take what is there, you cant take away multiples of whats there can you??
@@ogi22 If i walked 1 kilometre, and you walked 1 times less than I did.. how far did you walk? what is the value of 1 times? NOW.. suppose you walked 1 times MORE than I did... how far did you walk? What was the value of 1 times now? You cant exchange multipes for fractions whenever it suits. they are completely different values. IF something is less than something else.. its value is a fraction of the larger value.. it is never a multiple of it.
Man got what you trying to do, but think you’d make more money by showing something working and give away the secrets. It’ll grow your audience and give you people to sell premade ones to, kit people and the few that build it entirely on their own will add to your viewers which will get you advertising. But…what do I know 😂 Great idea
I am putting together right now a Ford truck that has a straight 6 4.9 L. I took off the fuel injection to go carbureted Single Barrel but I want to do a gasification on it any help would be greatly appreciated as I have no idea where to start
This is hands down the best design I have seen to date…I am so grateful…yours in Solidarity…Thank you!
The reduced tar looks like it has more to do with the fact that this seems to be a charcoal gasifier instead of a wood gasifier. Just my opinion though
God speed. You are an inspiration. God bless you.
thanks
3:31 Uh... you're pouring charcoal into it. That's the tar-free secret, and the gasifier itself is actually a lot simpler too.
no
I hope this message gets spread around. People often say that something is x times less of something. Think about this; if you have something a generator that burns 2 gallons of gas in a day. Now you have some real numbers to work with and just like when you were a kid growing up the rest of this becomes a math "word" problem. (Geez did I hate these. Interesting that I became a machine design design engineer where every problem is basically a word problem. I digress.) So, you now have something like 2gal / 1day = 2 gal per day; Now multiply that times your factor or percentage and you get something like 2 gal/day x 25 (your factor) = 50 gal/day. Now you started out with using only 2 gallons and the rate so we are talking about 50 gallons BUT now you are using something that is this much less than the original use so you have 2 - 50 = --48 gal. Since we started out as a consumption as a positive value this would mean that you are getting 48 gallons back {essentially you need to flip the signs for this to be easier to understand}. I WANT ONE OF THESE, IN FACT I'LL TAKE 2 !!!
Hope you don't mind the gibe, it is just one of my pet peeves and LOTS of people make this mistake. Haven't actually watched the vid yet but looks interesting. I'll give you straight up one later. :)
Tar is a big problem with gasifiers because it will gum up car engines and cause failure. Most solutions use a large filter box or tank of water to remove it from the syngas, but that's tough to fit in a vehicle. Another solution is to burn at very high temperature to break down the tar into lighter hydrocarbons but that's tough to do in a car because of the fire hazard. The technical challenge is finding a way to gasify without seizing up your engine or blowing yourself up!
'Times less of something" is not good at all.
Even "times more of something" is not good, because most people would believe it is the same as "times the amount of something.
I think it can be better to use % sometimes
Some amount more/less is OK
Times an amount of something is OK
Times more of something is bad
Better to use % more of something
Times less of something, is usually used wrong, thus really bad.
Way better to use % less
25 times less than 50
50 - 50×25 = 50 - 1250 = -1200
25 times more than 2
2 + 2×25 = 52
25 times the amount of 2
2×25 = 50
If you use -1200 gal/day, that's efficient
96% less than 50
50 - 50×96% = 50 - 48 = 2
!!! Note !!! Using a negative number is gaining, while gaining a negative number would be using
Whichever way one wants to calculate a number, it is important to pay attention to the wording to describe it. Otherwise there might be serious ambiguity issues, or plain mistakes.
"Times X less" drives me up the wall too. So does zero point fifteen. Its like an entire generation has taken a blow to the head and shed a couple dozen IQ points.
When you need heat, you usually need electricity too, since there is very little solar power during winter. You generate electricity and recover all waste heat.
Hello Mr. Chakraborty,
this looks very interesting and it reminds me at something that's called the Drizzler Gasifier, which was developed by some dutch guy and after him some other german guys.
For me the idea of permanent gasifier work and not one hopper after another seems very promising.
Didn't know the Imbert type did wear so fast. Avoiding tar is important too.....
This is mere marketing video, convince us by exhibition
What would you charge in USD for plans to run a 10kw peak/5kw continuous system? What species of wood are using that you are getting the tar numbers?
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GEAT JOB MAN !!!!!
i really like my downdraft boiler made in poland. i bet you have a good gasification system. you need a regional distributor in the americas. people are just incredulous until they see it running a generator well and good. they really have a perspective similar to the regard for impossible free energy machines. the heat exchangers need that all the tar precipitating surfaces be accessible for rapid thorough cleaningi will contact my agent, zenon, about direct import so you can have a showroom dealer in the center of the contiguous states.
ok
Combining that with SOFC fuel cell would be good idea. Sofc benefits hot syngas and air, and the efficiency can be over 60%. Sofc exhaust gas is also much hotter than from internal combustion engine.
How about starting an engine with e.g. propane and heating an airless jacketed pyrolysis reactor with exhaust fumes to 800°C and then switching the engine to pyrolysis gas?
Correct answer
Yup ! I asked that question on another post. Even start up on stored wood gas!
Nice looking flare !
I wana do this in canada as making a finished product to implement as a positive energy transfer with a cpl desine changes and better controles to regulate the prosses i think
And this fits in a car trunk? But the drawings show it to be much larger. How do you dissipate the heat generated in the trunk?
You can compress the fuel in a tank and have the gasifier separate from the vehicle.
@@MarkC.4309 But that's not what he claims, he shows the burner in the trunk. Seems suspicious!
@@buteos8632 he put a broken washing machine in the trunk 🤣
They ran gasifiers in car trunks during WWII.
Does this reactor design essentially crack the tars? as opposed to treating them post reaction?
NO it does not. Just wants to make money from "rich" westerners. Just doesn't understand we have the same problems they do just scraping by..... Just without the communism
@@redlew012 cool story bro
@@redlew012 More like naz!sm, he's from Ukraine, not C!hna.
@@Indica902 It's obvious this is a scam dummy!
@@buteos8632 where is the scam?
what is this gasifier called
and why is it not used more
Well if he told us what it was called and used schematics with English on them, he couldn't sell his custom-designs all that well, could he?
You can charge your EV with wood!
Sounds great any plans available?
So it still generates plenty of tar, but by cleverly cooling the produced gas, you make the tar condense, collect, and not reach the engine. Is that what you mean?
yes, but smart new model by itself gives little tar
So even if this bot chanel is telling the truth they really didn't invent a new engine they just improved on the old design.
this has nothing to do with an engine @@Zane-It
Thank you thank you
I would like to build a microsystem for stationary home usage(10 kWh max). Is it possible to recover heat to heat water? How can I contact you to inquire pricing?
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@@jackal6902 oh yeah! This design is backed up by scientific papers!
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I’m sure it would be a lot easier to remove the tar and moisture with a couple cyclone separators
Hello I am interested in a gasifier that can generate approximately 250-300KW electricity 460V 3PHASE AT 60hz. We have a large supply of dry woodchips from a pallet operation to run the gasifier
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What made you decide to make the gasifier with way higher efficiency ??? Would you be able to make a wood stove high ninety percent efficient ??? Thanks for your time Sir.
there is more emphasis on getting rid of the resin, you can make a gas generator with an efficiency of 92%, I did not do wood stoves. I specialize only in gas generators
@@gengaz-lagunovHow expensive are the generators that you make Sir ??
yes in different ways - depending on what power
They make wood stoves that Recycle the gasses to decrease fuel usage
@@harryjoe860 Got you Harry. I understand fella.
Do you have a set of plans to build one? I'm getting ready to build one for my truck and shop .I'm off grid.
I can calculate the project if you want, in principle, I have already told everything in detail who was engaged in gas generators himself can do it myself
I already have built a couple. That's why I wanted to see the difference.
This is probably done by tar recirculation in Tue reactor right?
due to heat recovery and the correct height of the recovery zone
Where is the burning area ? at the base where is the grate or at the preheated air intake in top part where is conection with fuel hopper? In what part of system you start the fire?
The base
What if you get pulled over and the cops see this in your car now you're in violation of the car's emissions standards because you're not running the car on the fuel per manufacturers recommendations. What kind of fine would that be
in the United States, in my opinion, it is allowed, in our country we do not care
In California you have to register your vehicle as experimental ( limited duration ) and afterwards as a design once you have smog impact issues mitigated .
Pyrolysed compressed gas is actually much easier in California because of compressed natural gas vehicles already having approved registration procedures .
What if you used gods gift of dominion over earth genessis 1:26 ang moved across the earth in gods jurisdiction?
@@hafsalinda Interesting method. If I put gods in my gas tank, how many Miles Per God could I get?
Have the vehicle registered in a county that doesn't check emissions. Police don't pull people over to check if they're violating emissions standards. But if they see you're using an alternative fuel, they may give you a ticket for avoiding paying road tax, so pay your road tax online and keep the reciept in the glove box.
I don't like being teezed.
I'm sorry you got angry
Hello, I tried to contact you with Whatsapp but it says invalid number. Is there another way to contact you? I'm in the US. Thanks
+380661963808 here is my working whatsapp, write yours just in case
I just tried again.
@@bartonbrookhomestead5793 Just check Mr Teslonian, he's a great guy and won't scam you!
Do you have a link to the plans with a general explanation of the concept? There are no useful details in this video, it's essentially an advertisement.
You obviously did not watch to the end
@@fireandforge I did, there is nothing substantive there, most people who are serious about this sort of thing will discuss specifics rather than advertise their services as a contractor.
@@matthewkolar7560 True, Some of the schematics at the end gave enough information if you know what to look for. Personally I would follow Flash001's design. I bought the wood gassifiers bible and followed the war between him and that off grid guy. Glad I didn't follow the plan and did more research. Plan to build mine later this year and I don't feel like doing it twice
@@fireandforge They are woefully incomplete, especially of the critical information (the bit about the new reactor interval for recycling, it's listed in the schematic as "?")
@@matthewkolar7560 I haven't seen much info on that and wonder how much is star dust and how much is truth. Many industries still use gassification and I am sure if there was an easier way to get rid of tar it would have been done already. The process is viable just not practical, efficient and simple as LPG or Gasoline.
The hotter the fire the less tar you will get.
why cant tar be eliminated by bubbling thru water ?
you can, but then there will be a lot of dirty water
Activated carbon filter and oil bubbler are better...
I would like a cover of the drawings to study
Are you the teslanoian?
I would want to use compressed wood gas as fuel instead of hold the gasifier with the car
then it is better to make a wood pyrolyzer - pyrolysis gas 4200 kcal against generator 1100 kcal and compressed into cylinders at a pressure of 150-200 atmospheres, this will be close to natural gas 7600 kcal
@@gengaz-lagunov How do you store the gas safely? My understanding is that the hydrogen in the gas will cause embrittlement of the steel tank and weaken it.
@@cabwaldo I saw stored for six months, but hydrogen embrittles
Use electric vehicles! ( Tesla, etc.)
Why bother with bottled gas?
Except maybe for stationery use instead
of a power wall or other power backup.
@@terrancebecker9092 Do you...not understand electricity comes from some other source? Do you not understand that we have built internal combustion engines before that are far more robust than what is found today and thus can be repaired more often than not with homemade or locally manufactured parts? Try that with a Tesla battery or one of its 2,769 modules. Theres a reason Farmall almost went about of business- because they never sold any parts.
Charcoal.
why not make the combustors out of ceramic???
Cracks? Ceramic is very resistant to heat, but it doesn't do well with stress from physical forces - like driving a car over a bumpy road. And it also cracks with repeated heating/cooling cycles. Especially when temperature change is fast - what you want here when you start gassifier and want to run your engine fast. And ceramics also can take moisture from the air, which further speeds up cracks forming.
@@ogi22 Makes sense. All the shock of combustion / detonations would probably just instantly destroy a ceramic combustor.
@@ogi22 ceramics should always be set within a retainer such that it wont fall apart until its pebbles.
The voice is not human
But interesting video nonetheless
I'm having trouble contacting you on whatsapp. There's no +38 option for me here in the states. But all the same, I'd like to talk with you about gasifier design cause I have some design ideas.
This is all good until an EMP takes it out .
Simple is Brilliant .
what does it take out then ?
@@ericmieremet
The Electronics
The vehicle it self is controlled by electronics .
An EMP (High Frequency) destroys electronics. Rendering this useless.
Low tech or no tech are the only probable solutions post EMP.
Shalom
@@sojournsojourntraveler1203 ah I understand you talk about the ECU of the car, not the low/no E-tech of the gasifier.
Have a great day 👍
@@ericmieremet Got it
Did you say MITHUN CHAKRABARTEE??????
And absolutely no raw data with component load out. Business calls I assume? Too bad, open and sharing only if you call this number 😂
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10 - 50 times less? That makes no sense. If something is less than something else it is a fraction of that thing. Not a multiple of it. it could be 50% less, or 1/3 as much etc.. but not 10 times less. Even just 1 times less than any number brings you to 0, so 10 to 50 times less tar is absolutely incorrect.
You cannot reduce something by 10 to 50 times, you can only reduce a fraction of it.
What is the meaning of 10%?
It's 10/100 right? So it is also 1/10.
It means it is 10 times less than 1.
if it's 50 times less, then it's 1/50 = 2/100 and this is 2%
@@ogi22 Wrong. This is what im trying to explain... "1 times less than" is "100% less than".... 2 times less than means 200% less than etc etc. SO 1 times less than ( 100% less than ) any number is 0.
@@ogi22 What do you think 50 times means? it means 50 of whatever number you are miltiplying by right? so 50 times 2 is fifty lots of 2... which is 100. IF ive got 2 apples.. how many apples can you take off me? You can only take 2 apples because thats all ive got.. you can only take 100% of my apples from me cant you? and that is 1 times. You can only take what is there, you cant take away multiples of whats there can you??
@@ogi22 If i walked 1 kilometre, and you walked 1 times less than I did.. how far did you walk? what is the value of 1 times? NOW.. suppose you walked 1 times MORE than I did... how far did you walk? What was the value of 1 times now? You cant exchange multipes for fractions whenever it suits. they are completely different values. IF something is less than something else.. its value is a fraction of the larger value.. it is never a multiple of it.
And the winner is……. ?
Looks like he’s using charcoal.
Man got what you trying to do, but think you’d make more money by showing something working and give away the secrets. It’ll grow your audience and give you people to sell premade ones to, kit people and the few that build it entirely on their own will add to your viewers which will get you advertising.
But…what do I know 😂
Great idea
Way to much talking and not enough showing ... It's not a book where you need filler...
gypsy from ukraine and his inventions
Crap from under my boots, without a name or channel.
So full of crap. "enough with the words" he says, then just carries on with words.
There is no substance to this click bait video.
no, splattered all over
Talk is cheap. Show us
Whatapp
sorry? if you ask mine, it's written in the description under the video
@@gengaz-lagunov hi i have been looking into gasification to generate power and heating.
All advice would be most welcome.
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I am putting together right now a Ford truck that has a straight 6 4.9 L. I took off the fuel injection to go carbureted Single Barrel but I want to do a gasification on it any help would be greatly appreciated as I have no idea where to start