As of March 2024, this crossing will get entirely new crossing equipment by July 2024 to improve traffic and pedestrian safety at this crossing. Construction has started.
People rely on the crossings to tell them when the train is coming so obviously they will cross if it goes up you can sue the city if someone gets hit btw
It looks like the train engineer noticed the malfunction, because as soon as the gates started going back up, they blasted their horn to warn the cars. Good eye!
Very surprising. This is a good explanation on why you should stop, look and listen at all crossings, even if they have lights, gates, and bells. Although quiet zones have a big disadvantage here.
That's not a malfunction, that's an Activation failure. An extremely serious issue that must be reported to the FRA with-in 15 days. Last year in 2020 there were only 30 reported activation failures in the entire country. CWT=Constant Warning Time (AC/Audio Frequency) circuits are very reliable and seldomly fail. They are designed fail-safe so any faults in the PLC system will drop the gates. From my experience this issue would be found in the track switch. A failed insulated joint in the switch it-self or Shunt bypass/couplers issue. It resulted in the PLC losing the train for only 6-8 seconds but as you can see it caused the crossing to almost fully recover. Great video and glad the crew reported it right away and people at the crossing were looking out.
No crossing is fail safe. But a bad insulated joint, would cause a track indication (assuming it’s signal used) and they wouldn’t be running at track speed period. The problem is inside the crossing controller
@@kaseyaldrich4746 No, most problems are track circuit related and very seldomly is it an actual problem with the crossing PLC. When you have problems in the case the signal equipment will almost never recover unless you jump the crossing. You have many different frequencies and DC signals (power) sent through the rails. Shunt couplers and such can cause some very intermittent issues. Yes if a failure of an insulated joint happens it'll drop all block signals to their fail safe. A shunt coupler IE (00:56) what is in those boxes track side is another story, you can even watch the video and see the signals recover between the shunt couplers. They're not true insulated joints like back in the day. They're an insulated circuit from the rest of the neighboring crossing and signal systems. The problem you're discussing is the issue that caused the Metra Mokena 191st crossing activation failure. This issue is similar but different. Regardless in the next 20 years I believe PTC software and GPS will activate most crossing signal systems. It's already in place on HSR lines in Illinois and Michigan, and being tested on electrified corridors that cannot carry an AC/AF CWT circuit. Also I'm sure many light rail lines might use the same type concept. I'll continue to research all of this.
@@TrainmanKight been maintaining crossings for 7 years.. it’s just called a shunt. But a shunt, is not going to be causing a crossing issue that close, we design and test them to keep this from happening. If that shunt was to be failing, the crossing it is for would be having problems well before this crossing.
@@TrainmanKight PTC isn’t being designed to “control” crossings on freight lines. Atleast not yet. You would have to change all of the programming and upgrade every crossing. The only goal at this point for PTC and crossings, is for PTC to shut the train down for a crossing order. Which is going to cause even more delays
This is why you can't 100% rely on the gates. Everyone is so lucky that the engineer of 9924 blew the horn or the traffic going the opposite way would've been history.
People are just idiots nowadays. The driver in the white truck experienced a near death situation. Even if the gates went up, the lights were still flashing, the train was still approaching. That train is closer and moving faster than you think. Be safe out there, people. Never cross a railroad until the gates are up, the lights stop flashing, and the bells stop sounding.
I don't know what's more baffling. The gates rising or the people on the opposite side not looking before crossing. Did it not occur to them to ask "I wonder why these gates went down?>="
In a situation like that someone should definitely call the railroad crossing number that’s usually posted on the gate or somewhere and tell them there’s an activation problem.
Rusty rail or broken circuit. Looks like an advanced approach island circuit with motion detectors. Prone to failure if the rail joints hyperflex and snap the bond wires
I’ve one seen an issue when I was in the train and the gates were still falling by the time the train reached the intersection so the train actually had to slow down significantly
If I'm completely honest that truck driver should be ashamed of himself He or she almost got their self killed Even though the gates weren't activated the right way :( The train was still coming
Yeah this crossing activated super earlier than when it's supposed to. Usually it would activate after the train headlights come from around the corner at the speed the train was going but this time before.
I live near train tracks, so when the crossing gates lowered down completely the train that was passing my area blew the horn. So it was like the train passing my area was in the video.
1:13 that is very dangerous, what if the train hits a car or someone. This is why railroad crossings are very important. This was a very very close accident.
If I was at the other side of the crossing & I was the driver. Id would roll down my window check if that was a false time out listening the engine get loud or a horn. But in this fact… this ain’t timeout
Only an emergency like that is when the engineer would have the right to blow the horn in a quiet zone blow the horn short of men and machines cars and pedestrians fowling the crossing
No sir not true. If there is a crossing order, such as someone calls in gates down no trains, a broken gate, even as simple as a gate light being burnt out, you WILL sound Bella and whistles, even in quiet zones. Or say a maintainer places a crossing order to do work on the crossing, again, full bells and whistles.
As of March 2024, this crossing will get entirely new crossing equipment by July 2024 to improve traffic and pedestrian safety at this crossing. Construction has started.
that is good! Also nice video!
RIP old raco cantilever
That’s wild, what’s even more stupid is the fact that people were actually going to still cross
Not a crossing fail, but a Darwin test. Less dumb people on the roads the better.
They are bots
People rely on the crossings to tell them when the train is coming so obviously they will cross if it goes up you can sue the city if someone gets hit btw
I thought the same thing
The crew didn't sound their horn from the distance. That's why there was confusion.
It looks like the train engineer noticed the malfunction, because as soon as the gates started going back up, they blasted their horn to warn the cars. Good eye!
Oh wow! That was a close one, I've seen crossing that act like this too. Scary
Very surprising. This is a good explanation on why you should stop, look and listen at all crossings, even if they have lights, gates, and bells. Although quiet zones have a big disadvantage here.
That's not a malfunction, that's an Activation failure. An extremely serious issue that must be reported to the FRA with-in 15 days. Last year in 2020 there were only 30 reported activation failures in the entire country.
CWT=Constant Warning Time (AC/Audio Frequency) circuits are very reliable and seldomly fail. They are designed fail-safe so any faults in the PLC system will drop the gates. From my experience this issue would be found in the track switch. A failed insulated joint in the switch it-self or Shunt bypass/couplers issue. It resulted in the PLC losing the train for only 6-8 seconds but as you can see it caused the crossing to almost fully recover.
Great video and glad the crew reported it right away and people at the crossing were looking out.
Gm in I’m un pop
No crossing is fail safe. But a bad insulated joint, would cause a track indication (assuming it’s signal used) and they wouldn’t be running at track speed period. The problem is inside the crossing controller
@@kaseyaldrich4746 No, most problems are track circuit related and very seldomly is it an actual problem with the crossing PLC. When you have problems in the case the signal equipment will almost never recover unless you jump the crossing. You have many different frequencies and DC signals (power) sent through the rails. Shunt couplers and such can cause some very intermittent issues. Yes if a failure of an insulated joint happens it'll drop all block signals to their fail safe. A shunt coupler IE (00:56) what is in those boxes track side is another story, you can even watch the video and see the signals recover between the shunt couplers. They're not true insulated joints like back in the day. They're an insulated circuit from the rest of the neighboring crossing and signal systems. The problem you're discussing is the issue that caused the Metra Mokena 191st crossing activation failure. This issue is similar but different. Regardless in the next 20 years I believe PTC software and GPS will activate most crossing signal systems. It's already in place on HSR lines in Illinois and Michigan, and being tested on electrified corridors that cannot carry an AC/AF CWT circuit. Also I'm sure many light rail lines might use the same type concept. I'll continue to research all of this.
@@TrainmanKight been maintaining crossings for 7 years.. it’s just called a shunt. But a shunt, is not going to be causing a crossing issue that close, we design and test them to keep this from happening. If that shunt was to be failing, the crossing it is for would be having problems well before this crossing.
@@TrainmanKight PTC isn’t being designed to “control” crossings on freight lines. Atleast not yet. You would have to change all of the programming and upgrade every crossing. The only goal at this point for PTC and crossings, is for PTC to shut the train down for a crossing order. Which is going to cause even more delays
Damn! Very dangerous malfunction that could’ve turned into a big tragedy…
Only dangerous for people who are dumb enough to cross it when a big ass train is on their right
This is why you can't 100% rely on the gates. Everyone is so lucky that the engineer of 9924 blew the horn or the traffic going the opposite way would've been history.
Holly cow thank God that truck on other side didn't go all the way thru
(Update) New video of this crossing is uploaded with it functioning normally with its activation. ua-cam.com/video/Gb6N8I-KILA/v-deo.html
Holy crap, I thought that truck on the other side was about to get nailed!
Oh geez I thought that honking van was gonna try to pass the crossing 😳. That was scary to watch
Great video! Hopefully they've gotten that activation failure fixed!
People are just idiots nowadays. The driver in the white truck experienced a near death situation. Even if the gates went up, the lights were still flashing, the train was still approaching. That train is closer and moving faster than you think. Be safe out there, people. Never cross a railroad until the gates are up, the lights stop flashing, and the bells stop sounding.
I likethe fact that these are recorded in 4k bcz then I can watch them in high resolution on my tv too
"Gates going back up, should I look myself to make sure a train isn't coming? Forget that!"
Man that's crazy thankfully no one was killed.
Not really thankfully. Thinning the dumb-dumb herd.
Right 👍
Wow That’s Crazy At least nobody was killed
Dang that truck almost got smoked the other cars were honking like crazy just like the train
God bless that driver for blasting that horn. I would have freaked out and slamed that sob into emergency.
Here is how the malfunction may have happened:
The track circuit thought that the train came to a stop
Or It did not detect the train moving
or maybe it stopped detecting the train
Wow I have no words glad everybody was all right
I don't know what's more baffling. The gates rising or the people on the opposite side not looking before crossing. Did it not occur to them to ask "I wonder why these gates went down?>="
It's good that the train decided to blow the horn. If it hadn't, that truck might've ended up crossing without noticing the train.
In a situation like that someone should definitely call the railroad crossing number that’s usually posted on the gate or somewhere and tell them there’s an activation problem.
Rusty rail or broken circuit. Looks like an advanced approach island circuit with motion detectors. Prone to failure if the rail joints hyperflex and snap the bond wires
I never see that I’m glad everyone is safe and that was dangerous
WOW!!! That was a close call. too close:0
That was close!
crossing: goes to sleep
train when the horn blows: wake yo a$$ up
I’ve one seen an issue when I was in the train and the gates were still falling by the time the train reached the intersection so the train actually had to slow down significantly
Is that gate mast loose?
It looks quite dangerous for a gate mast to be loose.
That’s terrible, did you report that to the railroad?
😳 Whoa THAT'S Crazy And Scary Mind 🤯 Blown That Truck Almost Got Smoked
Damn that pickup at the other side would have chosen death if he did not stop
Angled grade crossings are the most dangerous depending on which direction the train is coming
Only if you're stupid.
wow super scary, is this a no horn crossing? I didnt hear the long-long-short-long (stop look and listen) sequence.
Yep quiet zone.
That old RACO still there or has it been replaced?
Still there.
That truck driver must've thought the train was invisible 😱
If I'm completely honest that truck driver should be ashamed of himself He or she almost got their self killed Even though the gates weren't activated the right way :( The train was still coming
1:05 Why Was The Railroad Crossing Up?
Likely a sensor malfunction at the switch caused it.
Is the crossing a no horn zone? The fact that cars were still gonna cross is just ridiculous
This is big problem. Train horn probably saved peoples life thankfully. They need to investigate this issue.
In the description, do mean after the train passed through? Btw, insane malfunction! Glad no one was hurt!
Yes. Typed this fast plus auto correct changed some of my sentences without me noticing.
Now that is scary. You think they'll make a news article or something about the video? 💀
No
Not if no one got hit
If you’re seeing the gates drop before a train, even well in advance, odds are there is a dax unit involved and that’s how its designed to work
Yeah this crossing activated super earlier than when it's supposed to. Usually it would activate after the train headlights come from around the corner at the speed the train was going but this time before.
What is a Dax unit
Too close of a call for those people to drive thru!
I live near train tracks, so when the crossing gates lowered down completely the train that was passing my area blew the horn.
So it was like the train passing my area was in the video.
That's crazy and dangerous
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1:13 that is very dangerous, what if the train hits a car or someone. This is why railroad crossings are very important. This was a very very close accident.
Great job not freaking out verbally or shaking the camera
Did you call it in?
The train crew did. Signal department was working on it all day.
Was it no train horn?
I don’t see why that truck tried to cross when that malfunction occurred
Whatever caused the malfunction I’m glad nobody got killed
And this is why I hate quiet zones
Well the engineer did blow a horn to alert drivers right away though
That white truck was almost hit!
Train Simulator: Hold my beer.
Is it just me or do Union Pacific crossing bells sound different from the other main railroads
UP used a lot of WCH E-Bells more than any railroad.
time to finally call the number on the back of that sign
LMAO. Good thing no one was killed, lol
Train simulator railroad crossings in a nutshell
Wow! That x-ing signal needs to be reported.
Yeah it was right away.
1:08-1:21 *Most replayed*
That truck goes to show how stupid some people can be at railroad crossings.
What they need to do is stop all of this no train horn zone crap i mean literally the horns will save people's lives
THIS is why you don't proceed while the light is on and gate lifting you never know!!!!
I would just sit on the barrier so it would not go up
1:13 that was close!!
If I was at the other side of the crossing & I was the driver. Id would roll down my window check if that was a false time out listening the engine get loud or a horn. But in this fact… this ain’t timeout
Oh Wow!
1:05 OH NO
Whoa the truck most hit by train
Nice video
that's not major thats serious railroad crossing failure.
1:04 gates go back up
❤❤
At 0:30 you can see a train coming down the tracks so idk if i would say that this is a crossing fail
Oh I see
Mexican gated crossings in a nutshell
And people were going to cross it.
The pickup almost got hit!!!
危っぶねぇぇ、鳴り止んだ直後に列車が！
Train dont care how ignorant people are ⚰️😁
That could’ve been fatal
Only an emergency like that is when the engineer would have the right to blow the horn in a quiet zone blow the horn short of men and machines cars and pedestrians fowling the crossing
No sir not true. If there is a crossing order, such as someone calls in gates down no trains, a broken gate, even as simple as a gate light being burnt out, you WILL sound Bella and whistles, even in quiet zones. Or say a maintainer places a crossing order to do work on the crossing, again, full bells and whistles.
@@kaseyaldrich4746 also track orders
That is not true the engineer can sound his awesome train horn in the stupid quiet zones if he want
@@kaseyaldrich4746 how is this different than what he said
@@youraveragejoe2 buddy the comment I was correcting, ain’t even posted in more.
Filipino railroad crossings be like
GODdddddddd
RxR
Wtf