I really like the nose of the A350, reminds me of a hawk. But the A330 nose is so similar to the A300, I can't decide, depends on the airlines business.
the video isn't bad however I would recommend you use some graphics to support the things you say. Footage is nice but having footage throughout the video is just not necessary. But having a neat little table helping to visualize the things you say would be great. For example listing prices and range, advantages and disadvantages of each plane. Because all I hear is numbers which makes it hard to follow the pros and cons of each aircraft. The difference between A350 and A330 is one number and once I get to the point where you name the price or range of the A330 I've already forgotten the range of the A350 or the price. It's just too much to handle if I don't want to spend the time of watching this video serveral times. Just as a hint for the future :)
Thanks for the help :) I really didn’t mean for this video to be like that and quickly realise once I listened to it again just how number based it was :) since this video I have made an effort to make it less numbery and give you more time to digest the information :-) hope you have an excellent day!
I think that the A330neo is more of a Middle of the Market sort of plane. That operates low demand long haul flights or short haul flights with high demand. The A350 is more of a Traditional long haul plane that has a long range and can carry a high number of passengers.
A330 Neo + A350 could easily operate side by side. Many airlines operate 767 + 777s, and A330s + 777s. With the A350 being a good 777 replacement, Airbus would do airlines a good combo deal to keep them away from the 787 camp. Great video, keep up the good work.
Airlines should make a 787 & A350 combo which are both best in class with superior efficiency and comfort to other aircraft, A350 is a good replacement for 777 family and 787 is a good one for the A330 family.
I think you hit the nail right on the head, it depends. The A330neo will fill the role of the 767-300ER, mid-range, 250-300 passenger routes, such as Middle East to Asia and trans-Atlantic routes. The A350 is for more long range, >300 passenger routes, such as trans-Pacific and Europe to Asia.
Its the same story as it was when both the Boeing 767-300ER and the Boeing 777 was in production at the same time. Even though they operate in what looks like the same market segment (long haul 250+ seats) they are in fact different. The 777 is better at flying those really long haul flights while the 767 is better at doing jumps across the pond (Atlantic Ocean). Yes it has the capacity to fly longer than that, but its not as good for that as the 777. Same goes for the new A330Neo. I think it will be better at doing flight across the Atlantic and the airlines doing charter like Thomas Cook or the Tui group will sure love it too. But doing really long distance flights? No, the A350 is better for that I think. Airlines will probably have a totally different view of it all, but thats my thoughts anyway...
Rydz West How come Lufthansa don't order Boeing planes anymore? Have they become biased towards Airbus (a similar thing with United Airlines only most ordering Boeing)?
Hey please can you put subtitles? I am Spanish, if you put the subtitles good I can understand, but the subtitles that generate automatically, I don't understand very good
A330-900neo for domestic and small/mid range routes (up to 9 hours flying time) with no real competitor from Boeing; and A350-900 for long-haul (8-14 hours flying time), competes with B787-10. A330-800neo for "slim and long" routes (8-14 hours) with 250-ish pax, and a competitor to B787-8. A350-1000 is a B777-300ER competitor, and intended to replace A340-600 fleets. This makes the B787-9 a truly peerless plane. It has the capacity of an A330-900neo, but with the range of an A350-900, while being priced in-between them.
The Boeing 787-9 does not have the range of the 350. It flies maximum of 14 100ish km and even at that will have limitations of payload whereas the 350 can go 15 000 up to 17600 km with full load. Still a very efficient and marvellous aircraft tho!
I belive the A350 is the more advanced plane, it is a good option for Longhaul and Ultralonghaul routes which are operated by flag ship carriers. I belive if you also have A330ceo in your fleet is an option, but the A330 neo is more suitable fore domestic short long haul routes or even medium haul on high demand routes in Asia.
Air Senegal purchased 2 A330-NEO.900 to start its mid range haul.. After reading the comments here, i rest assured we did a great bargain considering our country is the western most part of Africa on the Atlantic ocean, 6hr from Europe, 6hr from America and around 7hr from Asia...Air Senegal is the 2nd customer for the AIRBUS' newest bird after TAP Portugal, and the 1st and only in all Africa so far to operate the NEO... We purchased 2 new ATRs, prior to this, for the regional and domestic market , and counting. Things are getting better around here, and by the way, Senegal is also the launch customer worldwide for the newest military jet trainer of tcheque's WODOOCHY, with 4 new L39NG for our millitary pilot training school...Wish us good luck.!!
This is the actual difference between A330 vs A350. Domestic routes(low to mid range) vs Long haul(mid to high range) routes. not-apparently-not-domestic. If you put a A330 do long haul it will probably burn more fuel per seat than a A350 and vise versa.
By the way have you ever thought that boeing or airbus should start making new A320neoF or 737maxF because if they did that would be great because whenever i go to my local airport (Perth International) i always see old 737-300F or 737-400F which seem to be really outdated now and if thay do then they could be much more efficient and use less fuel and be easier to fly for pilots
You can talk about the 350 being the less expensive aircraft to run .. but the unit cost of the 330 neo mitigates any saving I would think. With aggressive pricing the 330neo could be a huge seller.
330neo is usefull for patching up those needed extra payload and deployment 10 hour missions which Is what low cost airlines are looking for and still has a lower operating cost advantage than the a350 and it's commonality to current a330 operators. The a350 is usefull if you have yielding passengers and you really need to deploy them on premiun routes without needing to fill up the plane like an a380 and the cabin is more spacious than the a330 as well. More relax to deploy them on long haul.
#Dj's_aviation Hey man you forgot Ethiopian airlines also own A350-900.Btw,keep on coming with good contents and hopefully you'll have much more subscribers and views.Peace from Nepal🇳🇵🇦🇺
My advice to Airbus: Never blow money on a brand-new aircraft that has more or less the same purpose as other, existing aircraft. Just reengine them. Result? Profit!
A330neo is a good fit but if an airline would want an all airbus long haul in terms of capacity I would choose A350-900 with 1000 and A330-800 if you please or just A330-900 with A350-1000 to make capacity sense.
Probably depends greatly on what the airline likes and needs :) as in qantas may want the a330neo for domestic routes within Australia and then the A350 for flights throughout Asia etc.
Food and Travel I kinda though the old a330 would be as much good for long haul as the 350, and that this new 330 would be even more. This is news to me :)
Nice one. First time in the channel and like it. Just one note, please also include some text on the video, specially when talk about numbers. Keep it up.
I feel that airbus is competing against itself....I mean with the launch of the a330 neo just after the a350 doesn't make much sense as both the aircraft's will be competing against each other....instead airbus could've continued the a350-800 and made a much smaller aircraft that of 100-150 which would be much better as they wouldn't require bombardier to have a 50% share and since Boeing has no plane in comparison at that category ...airbus would surely have been the leader. Anyways the a330 neo is still one great aircraft which is competeing with another great aircraft the a350 and both are capable of being flagship products
Ben Godenrath The engines actually have better power on the 787-10 over the -9. Otherwise Emirates wouldn't have ordered it because Tim Clarke believed it could not meet MTOW with the thrust of the -9.
At first kudos to you for making an such an interesting video! I think both variants are very different between each other, the A350-900 and -1000 are intended (especially the latter one) to compete against the very successful B777-300ER and the 777-200ER. As well as an replacement for all A340-600's, whilst the A330Neo is the in house replacement for their A330's and A340-300's as well as a direct competitor to the 787-8. In the end airlines tend to order aircrafts that suits their current fleet and I think both variants a very interesting for future orders from various carriers.
The a330 neo will maybe even kill the a350 program in my opinion. Firstly many airlines already fly the classic a330, which makes them loyal to the a330 family. Secondly the a350 program is new and untested, thus making a few airlines probably sceptical, where as the a330neo is the more advanced remake of the good ol' plane they've been already flying for many years.
The a330 neo will be competing with the 787... And to be precised it will be competing with 787-10. They almost have the same range, but the 787-10 can hold much more passengers. So again those airlines that require more capacity will go for 787-10, airlines that don't need the high capacity will go for the neo. Airbus fuselage/ underside belly is so huge that they protrude tremendously, even the 777-300er's are not that huge...
Umm..... I love your videos, but this one felt like a non-stop spew of data without any answer to the question: which is better? You give way to many ifs and buts to really be helpful. You title the video "Is A or B better," and then never answer us! Don't you mean to have a little more of an editorial opinion here? BTW I intend this as helpful criticism, don't mean to come off as just blasting at you. Looking forward to more of your videos! :)
Completely understand what you’re saying! What I meant by the last part is that airlines are really the ones who decide when it comes to aircraft etc. I try to keep it as fact based as possible without voicing my opinion too much because it can spark a massive debate if I said Airbus was better than Boeing abuse would be flung from everyone etc. I’ll adjust the title though to is the a330neo or A350 better for airliners? Thanks a lot for that mate :)
Don't change the title--it's perfect! It's a clear question that makes me want to click in. I'd love to hear you make a more clear choice though. (Like Which is the choice for the airline building a fleet more for an efficient long-term future, vs the airline looking for a cheaper stopgap "keep us flying" sort of thing.) Keep up the good work! You obviously know your stuff and do your homework. I hope you won't be afraid to be a little more opinionated in the future, as I think that's what many of us are dying to hear as you grow into your online personality. :)
I fixed it because it is probably more accurate I may do more personalised opinionated videos soon but for the moment I quite enjoying being more neutral so I don’t restrict some viewers if you know what I mean :) have a great day once again thanks for the tips bro!!
I am a big fan of the A 350 900 I think it could fill a lot of niches for capacity,distance,economy, and speed,I really looking forward to the new 777 then let’s see who wins this war?
airbus announced a MTOW increase that boosts the range of the a330 neo for the 900 will have 7000nm+ and the 800 8000nm+...the a330-800 neo is the wild card here with such a range boost and lean configuration could fly ultra long range thin routes.. the 900 better competes with the 787-9 with more capacity and 80% of the range
The -9 range is up to 8500nmi at most. Plus it is actually bigger than a330-900neo (width) so it actually typically seats more due to most 787 operators using 9 abreast. The a330-800neo production is very doubtful now because after the a330neo first flight it's only customer wants to change the order for 6 to a350-900 or 787-9
Seems kinda contradictory to make a330-200's fly domestic, they have a bigger range than the -300. As far as I know, most -200 operators use them more on international routes than domestic. If airlines want fuelefficient airplanes in with that range, the a350 seems a better option. Even though they are more expensive, they seem like a better long-term investment.
Would you do a video on way are Airlines giving up on these Big 4 engine aircraft in favor of the two engine aircraft the problem I see with this is as air travel increases every year there's going to be an incentive to get big airplanes like the A380 for example which can hold up to 800 passengers and I really wish the airlines would invest in the 747 Dash 8 that's just my opinion. There is another reason why I think they do this as well if you go on the UA-camr Windover production he mentioned something that's interesting airline to giving up on the Hub to Hub travel in favor of the point-to-point travel meaning less connecting flights for example an A380 have to travel Hub to Hub and you get there you have to connect to a different flight to get to your destination I think that's why airlines are giving up on these big planes.
Both planes were made for different purposes. A330neo came out a bit too late (made to compete with the Dreamliner) and the Dreamliner is by far ahead. But a330 is a med-long haul plane while the a350 a long haul flight aircraft. Same with the 777 which is a super twin jet made for extremely long haul flights. So the a330 will make profit for airlines that want them. Same with The a350. Gr8 vid!
TAP Air Portugal, the launch customer of the A330neo had orders for the A350 that they swapped for the A330neo. As you mention in the video TAP Air Portugal already has a big fleet of A330 therefore they went for continuity.
Hey Dj! I just want to know what your opinion on the Boeing 727's that are still in service are. :D Do you agree with a number of 727's being charter aircraft or do you think they should all be retired?
Hey man! I would love for them to remain personally as charter aircraft as they look superb! Unfortunately, I've never seen one before so If I could see one before they retire I'd be very happy :) What are your thoughts?
I think the ones that are still around will stick for quite a long time. In North America there are still a number of 727's that are used for private flights, mostly from commercial operators retiring the specific 727-100's from their fleets in the early 90s. As you can imagine now, 722's have also mostly been retired and picked up for private use. Also, a notable example of a 727 that visits my area from time to time is a modified 727-200F that is used for people to experience zero gravity environments. I didn't mention any cargo carriers since that'd be a given, I think. But overall I don't think the 727 will go extinct anytime soon :)
I think some airlines like Qatar, Etihad would go for both A330neo and A350XWB but airlines like qantas would use A330neo and airlines like malaysia airlines would use A350XWB But like you said it all comes down to what the airline wants and what routes there going to use it on, and if need cheaper or better planes
A350 is Way Better! I don't like A330Neo because 777X is WAY better. Emirates is the largest operator of Widebody planes and will Operate 777X and A350 but No A330Neo.
There's some explanation about this with material expanding en contracting due to temperature differences... Their main function however is making airbusses look more 'airbussy'
Awesome video! I could see the a330 neo pick up with some smaller airlines that serve long distant routes, like Edelweiss, Level, Air Transat, etc. that are looking for newer aircraft.
A350 is made to compete B787. Where A330 neo is made to Advanced the technology of A330. Although 787 have more range than A330neo but can fly more than A330.It can fly distance easily like from Doha to New York. I like both.
Loving this series! I think the A330-900neo is a great alternative basically for all current A330 operators that don't need the A359's range and capacity. The future of the A330-800neo doesn’t look as bright though. It is too much airplane for transatlantic ops and many airlines that need a range similar to -800neo's have already ordered 787s & A350s.
cannibalisining each other..too close in size..sure ,range differences ,many using a350 on inter asian routes ..dreamliner ,quickly becoming preferred choice..over a330n..
I think the A350 is the best for long haul flights out of the 2 A350s. Great facts and points for both of the aircraft. I think that the A330Neo is a great Aircraft, and both pose as a major addition to Aviation. I’ll keep it quick. Great video, keep it up!
Can we compare it? A330 neo is a competition for 787-8 and 787-9, A350 is a competition for 787-10 and 777-8. Many airline will operate both 787 and 777X. Delta both A330neo and A350. Most airlines will stick to single type - like only A350-900 or only 787-9.
No aircraft can match a330 for comfortability in Economy. Simply because it is standard 2-4-2 seating, rather than the ridiculous 3-3-3 seating on 787 which is about 16cm wider...
The reason why Airlines you said "stay loyal" is not because they love the airplane. It is actually a logical choice to make. It decreases the cost of training pilots as well as employees with working a certain type of plane. It also decreases the human error as well as time. Time is money after all. For example A330, it would be a logical choice to opt for the A350 or A330neo. Since it will replace the current existing routes of the old A330(what im saying is range will not be a problem). As well as capacity isn't a problem, plus the A350 they say has "airbus commonality" in the cockpit so it is easy to learn. There will always be empty seats and it won't be guaranteed for an Airplane to fill up all the time.(Hence this is why they schedule the flights cautiously, for example the frequent amount of flights per week(talking about roundtrips as well.) It is to ensure that the plane isn't losing money(saves fuel costs). When they say that a plane that isn't flying is losing money, thats not true since you have to consider the fact about how many passengers as well as fuel and maintenance costs. It also decreases the wear rate of the plane(saving maintenance costs. However this isn't always the case)
No joke here but in truth the answer is BOTH depending on the route. To understand why you have to look at the history of the A350's development and several other factors, namely ETOPS, advanced engine developments, the issue over hub/spoke operation and direct point to point flights and the increasing use of (lighter) composite materials in airframes. Firstly, ETOPS is now so well advanced that SOME twin engined aircraft can fly for up to 6 hours under ETOPS i.e. over water before needing a diversion airport for emergencies.That means that MOST routes can be flown ETOPS. Secondly, modern engines may be around 15% more fuel efficient than their predecessors due to a number of technical advances. Thirdly the change in operations to increased point to point direct flights increases the need for medium high capacity long haul aircraft. Lastly, it needs a new plane design to make best use of composites. Long ago, Airbus were approached with an interest in a new aircraft of A330 class with enhanced range. They initially offered a new A330 version but it wasn't widely liked. Eventually they were persuaded to make the A350, a totally new aircraft. Designed for long haul with medium to largish capacity it looks to be a winner. Airbus didn't forget the A330 though and, borrowing some 5% of parts designed for both the A380 and A350, plus more efficient engines they were able to create the A330neo at a bargain price, about 25% less than the 'equivalent' A350 but with more limited range. So the A330neo will attract medium haul operators and the A350XWB, longer haul operators. Take your pick. Airbus really pulled a rabbit out of the hat here. Together with their now majority interest in the Bombardier C-series programme, they have a really attractive product line. Now consider the remaining quad jets that are selling slowly, the A380 and the B747-8.
Airlines should make a 787 & A350 combo which are both best in class with superior efficiency and comfort to other aircraft, A350 is a good replacement for 777 family and 787 is a good one for the A330 family.
Do you know about the differences of the cabins? Will the 330neo also have better pressure, humidity, windows like the 350? Would be awesome if you know :D
had to watch the video 4 times to understand numbers! can you use graphics when u are talking in number, for the rest, it's an awesome video! really enjoyed it.......good job bro! A330 looks beautiful than the A350! but i always have an issue with airbus aircraft, except the A330,on the design of their Nose gear placement! they look misplaced and wired to me!
Well, Hawaiian’s order of the 330neo is recently up to question being the viable option for them. They’re now wanting to expand to Europe from HNL and OGG so if they wanted to go with that option, the 350 would be the proper choice.
I just dont like the word “neo”. Look at boeing, they use Max and X. Even Apple borrows their name. iPhone xs Max sounds much better than iPhone xs neo. (Just comparison)
Unfortunately, the A330neo is more expensive than the 787, maybe that's a reason why customers are their 787's faster and why the A330neo is slowly getting into the market.
For long haul, airlines should order A350.
For medium haul, airlines should order A330neo.
For short haul, airlines should order A320neo.
Good idea!!
ThomasNovLoh Curiously, Hawaii Airlines uses the a330 from Nyc to Honolulu Hi non stop. A sizable long haul.
a321*
Airbus > Boeing
@@tibianus123 or a319*
As a passenger, it's the A330NEO hands down...the 2-4-2 cabin configuration is much more friendly than the 3-3-3 of the A350.
The A350 is quite possibly the most beautiful aircraft I have ever seen....
It's a stunner!
Air New Zealand are currently deciding whether to buy the A350 or the B777X - fingers crossed for the A350.
Concorde...
Fran Gipane pfff, no the a350 wings are wayyy better!
787 & a350??? Get some glasses.... Most beautiful aircraft ever made is Concorde!
Both are good but idk.......A350 looks more modern.
Thanks man, I think they both look good :)
I really like the nose of the A350, reminds me of a hawk. But the A330 nose is so similar to the A300, I can't decide, depends on the airlines business.
It's like comparing SpaceX's Falcon rocket family to the Antares family. You know which one is the more modern one.
It does look more fit and less fat.
the video isn't bad however I would recommend you use some graphics to support the things you say. Footage is nice but having footage throughout the video is just not necessary.
But having a neat little table helping to visualize the things you say would be great. For example listing prices and range, advantages and disadvantages of each plane.
Because all I hear is numbers which makes it hard to follow the pros and cons of each aircraft. The difference between A350 and A330 is one number and once I get to the point where you name the price or range of the A330 I've already forgotten the range of the A350 or the price.
It's just too much to handle if I don't want to spend the time of watching this video serveral times.
Just as a hint for the future :)
Thanks for the help :) I really didn’t mean for this video to be like that and quickly realise once I listened to it again just how number based it was :) since this video I have made an effort to make it less numbery and give you more time to digest the information :-) hope you have an excellent day!
I think that the A330neo is more of a Middle of the Market sort of plane. That operates low demand long haul flights or short haul flights with high demand. The A350 is more of a Traditional long haul plane that has a long range and can carry a high number of passengers.
Middle market is a perfect way to describe it! Thanks for watching
Meanwhile 320neo goes for short haul?
If they did the a350-800 they would be almost completely ripping off Boeing
787-8 ,9 and 10
A350-800, 900 and 1000
They’d also risk losing out on the a330neo which was the main reason the A350-800 was dropped :)
The A350 is a very comfortable and great airplane. I would not be surprised if more airlines around the world orders many A350s.
A330 Neo + A350 could easily operate side by side.
Many airlines operate 767 + 777s, and A330s + 777s. With the A350 being a good 777 replacement, Airbus would do airlines a good combo deal to keep them away from the 787 camp.
Great video, keep up the good work.
Indeed it could! Thanks for watching :)
Airlines should make a 787 & A350 combo which are both best in class with superior efficiency and comfort to other aircraft, A350 is a good replacement for 777 family and 787 is a good one for the A330 family.
I think you hit the nail right on the head, it depends. The A330neo will fill the role of the 767-300ER, mid-range, 250-300 passenger routes, such as Middle East to Asia and trans-Atlantic routes. The A350 is for more long range, >300 passenger routes, such as trans-Pacific and Europe to Asia.
Thank you so much man! It really depends on the routes airliners are looking at operating.
Ibirdball the Middle East is in asia
When I say Asia I mean more like China, Japan, India, Philippines, Indonesia, etc.
when you say asia, you mean east asia
Its the same story as it was when both the Boeing 767-300ER and the Boeing 777 was in production at the same time. Even though they operate in what looks like the same market segment (long haul 250+ seats) they are in fact different. The 777 is better at flying those really long haul flights while the 767 is better at doing jumps across the pond (Atlantic Ocean). Yes it has the capacity to fly longer than that, but its not as good for that as the 777.
Same goes for the new A330Neo. I think it will be better at doing flight across the Atlantic and the airlines doing charter like Thomas Cook or the Tui group will sure love it too. But doing really long distance flights? No, the A350 is better for that I think.
Airlines will probably have a totally different view of it all, but thats my thoughts anyway...
I work for Lufthansa which highly sponsors the a319neo a320neo a321neo and Lufthansa loves the a330's and a340's the neo will be awesome for them :3
That's so cool! The A330neo is a great aircraft!
Rydz West How come Lufthansa don't order Boeing planes anymore? Have they become biased towards Airbus (a similar thing with United Airlines only most ordering Boeing)?
Hey please can you put subtitles? I am Spanish, if you put the subtitles good I can understand, but the subtitles that generate automatically, I don't understand very good
I think you made a little mistake , the a350-1000 is longer that the a350-900
Oops sorry! I thought I mentioned that.
Your at 23,000 subs know
A330-900neo for domestic and small/mid range routes (up to 9 hours flying time) with no real competitor from Boeing; and A350-900 for long-haul (8-14 hours flying time), competes with B787-10. A330-800neo for "slim and long" routes (8-14 hours) with 250-ish pax, and a competitor to B787-8. A350-1000 is a B777-300ER competitor, and intended to replace A340-600 fleets. This makes the B787-9 a truly peerless plane. It has the capacity of an A330-900neo, but with the range of an A350-900, while being priced in-between them.
Absolutely spot on!
The Boeing 787-9 does not have the range of the 350. It flies maximum of 14 100ish km and even at that will have limitations of payload whereas the 350 can go 15 000 up to 17600 km with full load. Still a very efficient and marvellous aircraft tho!
Tough question... out of these two, I'm leaning towards the A350, but otherwise... I have no comment. =P
I think it greatly depends on the airline but I love the 350!
I'm unsure because I've always been more of a Boeing person, so choosing out of two Airbus aircraft is a hard choice to make. =P
ASJE Aviation HQ I like Boeing too :)
But not more or less than Airbus :)
I belive the A350 is the more advanced plane, it is a good option for Longhaul and Ultralonghaul routes which are operated by flag ship carriers.
I belive if you also have A330ceo in your fleet is an option, but the A330 neo is more suitable fore domestic short long haul routes or even medium haul on high demand routes in Asia.
Its fantastic! I think it really varies on the routes as the A330neo is more targeted at shorter routes.
Air Senegal purchased 2 A330-NEO.900 to start its mid range haul.. After reading the comments here, i rest assured we did a great bargain considering our country is the western most part of Africa on the Atlantic ocean, 6hr from Europe, 6hr from America and around 7hr from Asia...Air Senegal is the 2nd customer for the AIRBUS' newest bird after TAP Portugal, and the 1st and only in all Africa so far to operate the NEO...
We purchased 2 new ATRs, prior to this, for the regional and domestic market , and counting.
Things are getting better around here, and by the way, Senegal is also the launch customer worldwide for the newest military jet trainer of tcheque's WODOOCHY, with 4 new L39NG for our millitary pilot training school...Wish us good luck.!!
This is the actual difference between A330 vs A350. Domestic routes(low to mid range) vs Long haul(mid to high range) routes. not-apparently-not-domestic. If you put a A330 do long haul it will probably burn more fuel per seat than a A350 and vise versa.
By the way have you ever thought that boeing or airbus should start making new A320neoF or 737maxF because if they did that would be great because whenever i go to my local airport (Perth International) i always see old 737-300F or 737-400F which seem to be really outdated now and if thay do then they could be much more efficient and use less fuel and be easier to fly for pilots
I like A350 but A330neo is the best one
Fair enough buddy!
You can talk about the 350 being the less expensive aircraft to run .. but the unit cost of the 330 neo mitigates any saving I would think. With aggressive pricing the 330neo could be a huge seller.
330neo is usefull for patching up those needed extra payload and deployment 10 hour missions which Is what low cost airlines are looking for and still has a lower operating cost advantage than the a350 and it's commonality to current a330 operators.
The a350 is usefull if you have yielding passengers and you really need to deploy them on premiun routes without needing to fill up the plane like an a380 and the cabin is more spacious than the a330 as well. More relax to deploy them on long haul.
#Dj's_aviation Hey man you forgot Ethiopian airlines also own A350-900.Btw,keep on coming with good contents and hopefully you'll have much more subscribers and views.Peace from Nepal🇳🇵🇦🇺
Hey mate, I know Ethiopian have the A350 but I wasn't going to mention every carrier that had it xD Thanks a lot!
Why will airlines buy A350 because a380 price is just 98 million above a350 1000
Honestly the a330neo is going to come in and sell more than the a350
Maybe!
JJW AntiguaAviation Hard to say, the 350 is pretty cool.
airasia just ordered 100 a330neo worth of 30 billions dollar
The A330 has already made it's name. The A350 is so quiet and smooth but for some reason I feel more comfortable on an A330
My advice to Airbus: Never blow money on a brand-new aircraft that has more or less the same purpose as other, existing aircraft. Just reengine them. Result?
Profit!
Airbus ≥ Boeing
Depends on the model but mostly it’s an Airbus win.
A330neo is a good fit but if an airline would want an all airbus long haul in terms of capacity I would choose A350-900 with 1000 and A330-800 if you please or just A330-900 with A350-1000 to make capacity sense.
Long haul suits the A350 more as you mentioned etc with maybe an A330-900 for more shorter routes that are popular.
Not the opposite but anyway great video
Finnair have A350 too.
Yep I know :) But I wasn't going to mention every single carrier that had the A350 that's all. Just the ones with the most orders.
I Like both airplanes. I think the A330 neo looks better but I think the A350 is cooler
I think both of them
Probably depends greatly on what the airline likes and needs :) as in qantas may want the a330neo for domestic routes within Australia and then the A350 for flights throughout Asia etc.
Dj's Aviation Wow, cool. I hope they will have a330 daily domestic route to Adelaide
A350 is better
The A350 is a stunning aircraft!
As for medium haul routes, A330neo is more suitable.
ThomasNovLoh True but for the long haul routes like SIN-CGD the A350 would be better
Food and Travel I kinda though the old a330 would be as much good for long haul as the 350, and that this new 330 would be even more.
This is news to me :)
Food and Travel for whom?! You do realize they are for different uses, do you?
You forgot Lufthansa, they are also operating A350
Nice one. First time in the channel and like it.
Just one note, please also include some text on the video, specially when talk about numbers. Keep it up.
Thanks a lot :) I realized after recording their was far too many numbers haha. None of my other videos will be like that :-) Thanks though!
Both aircrafts looks quite similar , I'm not sure which one is better 🤔
I think both serve their purpose fantastically!
It depends on the range. For long haul flights, A350 is better.
I feel that airbus is competing against itself....I mean with the launch of the a330 neo just after the a350 doesn't make much sense as both the aircraft's will be competing against each other....instead airbus could've continued the a350-800 and made a much smaller aircraft that of 100-150 which would be much better as they wouldn't require bombardier to have a 50% share and since Boeing has no plane in comparison at that category ...airbus would surely have been the leader.
Anyways the a330 neo is still one great aircraft which is competeing with another great aircraft the a350 and both are capable of being flagship products
Spandan Das i think its not yet time for the A350-800 because B797 is not even out.after 320 neo,321 neo, they needed also the A330 neo.
I See the A350 come in to Brisbane everyday and it is a very good looking aircraft !
Great video! Video suggestion: why did the Airbus A318 fail and what happened! Cheers -Robi
Random Robi maybe too small and not fits economic of scale
Thank you so much! I think Nice guy is spot on!
A330 engine is not powerful compared to a350
A350-1000 has more powerful engines that the -900
but 787-9 and -10 have same engines.
That's awesome!
Ben Godenrath The engines actually have better power on the 787-10 over the -9. Otherwise Emirates wouldn't have ordered it because Tim Clarke believed it could not meet MTOW with the thrust of the -9.
Cathay Pacific ordering a350 is the right choice. Cathay Dragon should probably order a330neo for replacing their old a330s.
I think you are spot on! The Cathay Dragon airline would suit the A330neo's over the A350's in my eyes.
no, CX will swap their A330 ceo to KA 1st
At first kudos to you for making an such an interesting video! I think both variants are very different between each other, the A350-900 and -1000 are intended (especially the latter one) to compete against the very successful B777-300ER and the 777-200ER. As well as an replacement for all A340-600's, whilst the A330Neo is the in house replacement for their A330's and A340-300's as well as a direct competitor to the 787-8. In the end airlines tend to order aircrafts that suits their current fleet and I think both variants a very interesting for future orders from various carriers.
Thank you my friend! I think they all complement each other and serve their purposes well. With them being both very different to be honest.
Ask Delta
A330neo
Cool!
The a330 neo will maybe even kill the a350 program in my opinion. Firstly many airlines already fly the classic a330, which makes them loyal to the a330 family. Secondly the a350 program is new and untested, thus making a few airlines probably sceptical, where as the a330neo is the more advanced remake of the good ol' plane they've been already flying for many years.
Maybe! The A350 is still going strong. Maybe airlines will order both like Delta
i like the A350 better
Fair enough!
Stick to the A330 neo
Sweet!
I vote for a330 neo
The a330 neo will be competing with the 787... And to be precised it will be competing with 787-10. They almost have the same range, but the 787-10 can hold much more passengers. So again those airlines that require more capacity will go for 787-10, airlines that don't need the high capacity will go for the neo. Airbus fuselage/ underside belly is so huge that they protrude tremendously, even the 777-300er's are not that huge...
I wouldn't have thought the 787-10 but that's certainly an interesting comparison for sure.
Umm..... I love your videos, but this one felt like a non-stop spew of data without any answer to the question: which is better? You give way to many ifs and buts to really be helpful. You title the video "Is A or B better," and then never answer us! Don't you mean to have a little more of an editorial opinion here? BTW I intend this as helpful criticism, don't mean to come off as just blasting at you. Looking forward to more of your videos! :)
Completely understand what you’re saying! What I meant by the last part is that airlines are really the ones who decide when it comes to aircraft etc. I try to keep it as fact based as possible without voicing my opinion too much because it can spark a massive debate if I said Airbus was better than Boeing abuse would be flung from everyone etc. I’ll adjust the title though to is the a330neo or A350 better for airliners? Thanks a lot for that mate :)
Don't change the title--it's perfect! It's a clear question that makes me want to click in. I'd love to hear you make a more clear choice though. (Like Which is the choice for the airline building a fleet more for an efficient long-term future, vs the airline looking for a cheaper stopgap "keep us flying" sort of thing.) Keep up the good work! You obviously know your stuff and do your homework. I hope you won't be afraid to be a little more opinionated in the future, as I think that's what many of us are dying to hear as you grow into your online personality. :)
I fixed it because it is probably more accurate I may do more personalised opinionated videos soon but for the moment I quite enjoying being more neutral so I don’t restrict some viewers if you know what I mean :) have a great day once again thanks for the tips bro!!
I totally hear you man. Don't mean to sound like I'm trying to tell you what to do. Just keep em coming, my friend! :)
Not at all my friend :)
I am a big fan of the A 350 900 I think it could fill a lot of niches for capacity,distance,economy, and speed,I really looking forward to the new 777 then let’s see who wins this war?
Indeed, I love the new 777x, hoping QF order that!
Would a 757x work out?
I’m going to make a video on that soon :)
airbus announced a MTOW increase that boosts the range of the a330 neo for the 900 will have 7000nm+ and the 800 8000nm+...the a330-800 neo is the wild card here with such a range boost and lean configuration could fly ultra long range thin routes.. the 900 better competes with the 787-9 with more capacity and 80% of the range
The -9 range is up to 8500nmi at most. Plus it is actually bigger than a330-900neo (width) so it actually typically seats more due to most 787 operators using 9 abreast. The a330-800neo production is very doubtful now because after the a330neo first flight it's only customer wants to change the order for 6 to a350-900 or 787-9
Seems kinda contradictory to make a330-200's fly domestic, they have a bigger range than the -300. As far as I know, most -200 operators use them more on international routes than domestic. If airlines want fuelefficient airplanes in with that range, the a350 seems a better option. Even though they are more expensive, they seem like a better long-term investment.
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Amazing Video mate! Really well made! I‘ve a new video, too! Would be happy when you watch it :)
Cheers mate :-)
Would you do a video on way are Airlines giving up on these Big 4 engine aircraft in favor of the two engine aircraft the problem I see with this is as air travel increases every year there's going to be an incentive to get big airplanes like the A380 for example which can hold up to 800 passengers and I really wish the airlines would invest in the 747 Dash 8 that's just my opinion.
There is another reason why I think they do this as well if you go on the UA-camr Windover production he mentioned something that's interesting airline to giving up on the Hub to Hub travel in favor of the point-to-point travel meaning less connecting flights for example an A380 have to travel Hub to Hub and you get there you have to connect to a different flight to get to your destination I think that's why airlines are giving up on these big planes.
With some research I certainly could :) Thanks for the suggestion!
I like the A330-800NEO
I don't blame you :)
Here comes Thai again! MY FAVOURITE AIRLINE
Yaya!
Their cabins are somehow cheesy or corny with that color.its reminds me of a cake with artificial food coloring.
what garuda a350
Both planes were made for different purposes. A330neo came out a bit too late (made to compete with the Dreamliner) and the Dreamliner is by far ahead. But a330 is a med-long haul plane while the a350 a long haul flight aircraft. Same with the 777 which is a super twin jet made for extremely long haul flights. So the a330 will make profit for airlines that want them. Same with The a350. Gr8 vid!
Indeed! This was asked by 6 people on a previous video which was why I made it btw :)
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TAP Air Portugal, the launch customer of the A330neo had orders for the A350 that they swapped for the A330neo. As you mention in the video TAP Air Portugal already has a big fleet of A330 therefore they went for continuity.
Still none the wiser, although A350 may have potential for a larger three class variants on some routes, a 1100 model if you will.
They have talked about a -1100 aircraft :)
Hey Dj! I just want to know what your opinion on the Boeing 727's that are still in service are. :D Do you agree with a number of 727's being charter aircraft or do you think they should all be retired?
Hey man! I would love for them to remain personally as charter aircraft as they look superb! Unfortunately, I've never seen one before so If I could see one before they retire I'd be very happy :) What are your thoughts?
The last one used by donald trump
I think the ones that are still around will stick for quite a long time. In North America there are still a number of 727's that are used for private flights, mostly from commercial operators retiring the specific 727-100's from their fleets in the early 90s. As you can imagine now, 722's have also mostly been retired and picked up for private use. Also, a notable example of a 727 that visits my area from time to time is a modified 727-200F that is used for people to experience zero gravity environments. I didn't mention any cargo carriers since that'd be a given, I think. But overall I don't think the 727 will go extinct anytime soon :)
Or perhaps the Bombardier C300 for the Aussie domestic market, i hear its a wonderful plane, just ask Air Baltic, they love it!
I'd love that to be honest!
i say the a330neo to a350 800 buti pick a350900 and 1000 to a33o neo
I think it really depends :)
Oh ya Malaysia airlines airbus a350
Yep I know :) But I wasn't going to mention every single carrier that had the A350 that's all. Just the ones with the most orders.
Nice video
Thanks Tony!!
A330-900neo I think is better.
Malaysia airlines just got its a350 bro
Yes they did :)
I think some airlines like Qatar, Etihad would go for both A330neo and A350XWB but airlines like qantas would use A330neo and airlines like malaysia airlines would use A350XWB
But like you said it all comes down to what the airline wants and what routes there going to use it on, and if need cheaper or better planes
Qatar has the A350 and Etihad the 787 so I’m really not too sure if they will go for the a330neo
A350 is Way Better! I don't like A330Neo because 777X is WAY better. Emirates is the largest operator of Widebody planes and will Operate 777X and A350 but No A330Neo.
I hope Qantas or BA order some 350-900ulr for LHR-SYD direct.
Qantas need to order them :)
Is the range of the A359ULR long enough?
Yes- 9,700nm for a 9,100nm flight
Good comparisons but you should have put some tables with figures to be more "visually visible"
What's with the black paint around the cockpit windows!! It looks nice on the A350 but not on the A330neo.
Great video!!
Maybe it's to try and make the aircraft look even more futuristic. who knows? Thanks for watching!
There's some explanation about this with material expanding en contracting due to temperature differences... Their main function however is making airbusses look more 'airbussy'
What is it!? The new fad with aircraft - painting cockpit window frames black just to look more attractive!?
You forgot Ethiopian AIrlines. It operates A350-900s about five of them right now, the number may grow to 25 aircrafts in the coming few years.
Awesome video! I could see the a330 neo pick up with some smaller airlines that serve long distant routes, like Edelweiss, Level, Air Transat, etc. that are looking for newer aircraft.
Thanks so much! Indeed those airlines would fit it perfectly!
.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Your editing and perhaps "cinematography" is Oscar-worthy
Nice huge like
Thanks bro!!
Why is the a350 called the “xtra wide body”? There’s a lot more planes that have a wider body
No clue!
because it was planned as an improvement for the A330 and then re-designed and fitted with a wider fuselage than the A330
A350 is the second most beautiful commercial aircraft in the world!!!
2nd only to the CONCORDE
In my country, the national aviation - Vietnam Airlines has 10 Airbus A350-900 XWB aircrafts and 11 Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner aircrafts.
A350 is made to compete B787. Where A330 neo is made to Advanced the technology of A330. Although 787 have more range than A330neo but can fly more than A330.It can fly distance easily like from Doha to New York. I like both.
Loving this series! I think the A330-900neo is a great alternative basically for all current A330 operators that don't need the A359's range and capacity. The future of the A330-800neo doesn’t look as bright though. It is too much airplane for transatlantic ops and many airlines that need a range similar to -800neo's have already ordered 787s & A350s.
I love how fast your channel is growing! I had not known that the A350-800 had been cancelled.
Thanks mate! It sure has been. I guess it was so the A330neo could flourish.
cannibalisining each other..too close in size..sure ,range differences ,many using a350 on inter asian routes ..dreamliner ,quickly becoming preferred choice..over a330n..
I think the A350 is the best for long haul flights out of the 2 A350s. Great facts and points for both of the aircraft. I think that the A330Neo is a great Aircraft, and both pose as a major addition to Aviation. I’ll keep it quick. Great video, keep it up!
I agree! However, the a330 is a fantastic option for domestic flights that might require a larger capacity :) thanks for watching again!!
Can we compare it? A330 neo is a competition for 787-8 and 787-9, A350 is a competition for 787-10 and 777-8. Many airline will operate both 787 and 777X. Delta both A330neo and A350. Most airlines will stick to single type - like only A350-900 or only 787-9.
No aircraft can match a330 for comfortability in Economy. Simply because it is standard 2-4-2 seating, rather than the ridiculous 3-3-3 seating on 787 which is about 16cm wider...
The reason why Airlines you said "stay loyal" is not because they love the airplane. It is actually a logical choice to make. It decreases the cost of training pilots as well as employees with working a certain type of plane. It also decreases the human error as well as time. Time is money after all. For example A330, it would be a logical choice to opt for the A350 or A330neo. Since it will replace the current existing routes of the old A330(what im saying is range will not be a problem). As well as capacity isn't a problem, plus the A350 they say has "airbus commonality" in the cockpit so it is easy to learn. There will always be empty seats and it won't be guaranteed for an Airplane to fill up all the time.(Hence this is why they schedule the flights cautiously, for example the frequent amount of flights per week(talking about roundtrips as well.) It is to ensure that the plane isn't losing money(saves fuel costs). When they say that a plane that isn't flying is losing money, thats not true since you have to consider the fact about how many passengers as well as fuel and maintenance costs. It also decreases the wear rate of the plane(saving maintenance costs. However this isn't always the case)
No joke here but in truth the answer is BOTH depending on the route. To understand why you have to look at the history of the A350's development and several other factors, namely ETOPS, advanced engine developments, the issue over hub/spoke operation and direct point to point flights and the increasing use of (lighter) composite materials in airframes. Firstly, ETOPS is now so well advanced that SOME twin engined aircraft can fly for up to 6 hours under ETOPS i.e. over water before needing a diversion airport for emergencies.That means that MOST routes can be flown ETOPS. Secondly, modern engines may be around 15% more fuel efficient than their predecessors due to a number of technical advances. Thirdly the change in operations to increased point to point direct flights increases the need for medium high capacity long haul aircraft. Lastly, it needs a new plane design to make best use of composites. Long ago, Airbus were approached with an interest in a new aircraft of A330 class with enhanced range. They initially offered a new A330 version but it wasn't widely liked. Eventually they were persuaded to make the A350, a totally new aircraft. Designed for long haul with medium to largish capacity it looks to be a winner. Airbus didn't forget the A330 though and, borrowing some 5% of parts designed for both the A380 and A350, plus more efficient engines they were able to create the A330neo at a bargain price, about 25% less than the 'equivalent' A350 but with more limited range. So the A330neo will attract medium haul operators and the A350XWB, longer haul operators. Take your pick. Airbus really pulled a rabbit out of the hat here. Together with their now majority interest in the Bombardier C-series programme, they have a really attractive product line. Now consider the remaining quad jets that are selling slowly, the A380 and the B747-8.
Airlines should make a 787 & A350 combo which are both best in class with superior efficiency and comfort to other aircraft, A350 is a good replacement for 777 family and 787 is a good one for the A330 family.
Do you know about the differences of the cabins? Will the 330neo also have better pressure, humidity, windows like the 350?
Would be awesome if you know :D
had to watch the video 4 times to understand numbers! can you use graphics when u are talking in number, for the rest, it's an awesome video! really enjoyed it.......good job bro! A330 looks beautiful than the A350! but i always have an issue with airbus aircraft, except the A330,on the design of their Nose gear placement! they look misplaced and wired to me!
A330NEO would be better replacement for airlines with current A330 as it would save crew transfer training costs. Unit costs would also be lower.
Well, Hawaiian’s order of the 330neo is recently up to question being the viable option for them. They’re now wanting to expand to Europe from HNL and OGG so if they wanted to go with that option, the 350 would be the proper choice.
I just dont like the word “neo”. Look at boeing, they use Max and X. Even Apple borrows their name. iPhone xs Max sounds much better than iPhone xs neo. (Just comparison)
Unfortunately, the A330neo is more expensive than the 787, maybe that's a reason why customers are their 787's faster and why the A330neo is slowly getting into the market.