@@jamiebury1807 last time I went clubbing some nutter half my size with the typical prison tattoos was getting in my face just because I asked him what time the club shut. I thought to myself fuck this can’t be bothered anymore don’t want to end up in the morgue or doing time in prison for defending myself. Nice pub and sone food does me good now
@@uvanator2809 the worse nights was when I would go out into the town centre on fight nights, remember all the chaos and everyone fighting in the street the night AJ beat Wladmir at Wembley.
Yeah because government dont earn nothing from illegally imported drugs but they are all pedos who went to epstein island and hang round with prince andrew
Because the judges don't want their upper class friends to get big sentences if they get caught, and to normalise pedophilia by lowering its perceived severity by giving trivial sentences...
Josh was coked up, giving it large, flexing, & almost challenging the attacker (I blame it on the cocaine) But, he didn’t deserve to be knifed & killed by such a cowardly bastard, he was twice the size, & he pulled a knife, Doormen were useless, they should have spotted Josh’s aggressive body language & spoke to both men, maybe asked josh to leave ( he would be alive today if he was gently put out) Doormen never saw what was about to happen, never saw it happen, & never stopped the guy as he left, useless (I worked on the doors for nearly two decades) & we stopped most situations before they could start, because we spotted it early..
Can you please tell me why bouncers are so unattractive? I don't want my doormen to be repulsive looking I want hunky bodybuilders not bald permabulkers
@@jjr1728 customers would call me George Clooney when they came in because they said I looked like him, that was many years ago, now I look more like Phillip Scholfield!🤦♂️😆
The scumbag had two kids and a Mrs!!. What an absolute wrong-un. He'll never know why he done this, and it'll be a constant battle for the next 26 years in prison. Facts
@@dazzaMusicmate,,there loads of people that move in this environment. But the guy Shane was towering over Josh, had no need to slash him. He could have done him with his hands. Or was he too much of a coward.
He comes from a crime family. Like Stephen Lawrence’s killers, these kind of people were raised with no conscience. He did a tattoo to cover one of his kids names. Utter psychopath
Drove past the bar the night it happened and saw all the commotion & women crying outside, couldn’t have been long after as no police had arrived yet but I could tell something bad had gone down.
Speeding tickets are handed out by traffic police, who are not involved in tracking down murderers. TV licence fines which involve the police (very few) are handled by uniformed constables, again not involved in tracking down murderers. There are specialist squads for tracking down murderers so do some research before you post nonsense comments.
Traffic police hand out speeding tickets, they do not investigate murders. Uniformed constables sometimes assist in enforcing TV licence fines, they do not investigate murders. There are dedicated branches of the police that do investigate murders but do not deal with speeding fines or TV licence fines. Hope that clears up your rather confused ideas of how the police work.
@@mick3765 the police don't work mick,there utterly pointless, it's terrible, and if a fire arms officer dare draw his weapon there's a good chance he ends up in prison, it police management that stopped working,not the guys on the ground, but it HAS to change.
what a ridiculous comment. Do you really expect all 150 000 UK police officers to stop doing their jobs while this man is caught. There are different branches within the police, Traffic police are not going to investigate a murder case you pleb
I live just around the corner from this bar. It's a quiet suburb. Nothing ever happens around here. So this was just so strange. Thoughts with Josh and his family
You'd be surprised how much gang activity and knife crime there is in places like eastcote and pinner, there's been at least 3 murders i can remember in pinner in the last couple of years.
The Met police are infiltrated by all these gansters. Its been the case for 30 years. Steven Lawrence's killers father had moles in the investigation that's how they got away, despite the police being told by many people who did it om the very same day.
I remember watching the full original video & the victim did look like he was giving it the large one staring and posturing towards the table where O'Brien was sitting (This isn't really shown here)... The vast majority of the time it'd just be a scrap or words & that'd be that but he got incredibly unlucky to come across a truly nasty bastard.
Yeah, saw that too. He should have kept himself to himself to be honest. You don’t know who you’re messing with out there so try not to mess with anyone.
Can't really see where he was looking/staring, but if someone gets it in their head that someone is staring at them, the obviously thrive on it an carry a knife for such situations. Definitely wasn't the first time he has thought someone was looking at him. The lad who got killed did look like he was flexing up, but anyone with a brain cell could see he was not doing this internationally, or confrontationaly, but a bully/rat would seize this opportunity to be a rat/bully
Have to agree with you m8....the stance....the glass in hand...the swaying....and most importantly the staring...would have got a similar reaction in almost any pub/club in the country....however, I'm absolutely not condoning this or any other two-bob spineless wanker dealing with type of scenario with a knife....mindless, senseless and ultimately tragic and my heart goes out to his family and friends and I hope the dickhead finds a spine in his prison cell and takes responsibility for what he's done...
Love this channel but you left a few things out. The guys father is a drug dealer to and had a problem with Shane. His son was at the bar and kept giving Shane dirty looks so he went and spoke to him as you can see. His intention was to cut his face but the guy moved back and got his neck. As much as the family pretended they wasn’t drug dealers they’re and they are involved in crime
Ain't saying that you are wrong, but why didn't the guy use this as a defence in court then? Or did the creator mess that part up as well? Apparently he said he never even meant to cut the guy which is just ridiculous,,, I don't get why he didn't just say that he meant to cut him, then he could have possibly got done for manslaughter
Let’s have some real facts on this matter. 1 , this whole case was portrayed as a gangster and a normal working lad. Well he wasn’t a normal working lad. Before Josh’s fb page was altered or taken down on advice. He was openly talking about. How well he’d done selling crack/cocaine. And that he left home with an 8ball and moved onto boxes. But the media or detectives didn’t want public to see that. , he was also a horrible violent coke sniffing bully , dislike by many. Even know that doesn’t warrant what happened to him , but if you keep poking a at people week in week out. One day your meet your match , having seen the whole footage personally there wasn’t one incident all night in that bar and everyone seemed like having a good time until Josh walked in and started being the aggressor , and even spitting in Shane’s direction and goading , and staring him down menacingly throughout. , and I re affirm again. I don’t condone what happened. , what the media never report too was Josh’s dad a prolific violent armed robber. Who has served a long time behind bars, also let me confirm. This also wasn’t about drugs. This was simply someone looking for trouble. And someone over reacting. And misjudging. And no doubt. Both highly intoxicated. Shane was never gonna get a fair trial after all the media attention , also what’s never been reported or mentioned much is ,the reason Shane skipped the country was through death threats. And even death threats to he’s children and people threatening he’s children and posting what school they went too., and had to move house. As advised by the detectives. , don’t tell you all this do they. ??? And let’s have this right too. I know Shane’s and he’s family well , there good decent quiet hard working people , fact ! , i grew up with em on same estate. , there no winners here just 2 losing familys. Mothers lost sons. Sisters lost brother brothers lost brothers. Also the man is serving he’s time , why the fuck they keep putting shitty wrong / exaggerated information. And one sided. Also ya can’t walk rnd like a bad boy and claim one status. Then run to the po po , and go all the other way. And try be all law abiding citizen, where the fuck this docu maker get his info and how he even allowed to put this shit up. Get your fucking facts straight. ,
Thank you for the context, over the years I’ve heard bits and pieces through friends of friends of friends, so to speak. I always knew there was more to this that was not being shown. Nevertheless it is a sad situation, totally agree with everything you said
I ran into a buddy at a bar and tagged with em and one of his acquaintances kept asking if I had his back all night. After a few bars he gets into it with a guy, I freeze for a sec then walk over and was.like fk it and pushed him and tried to scare him off... Dude comes back with 3 other big dudes and.my 'friends' were nowhere... They backed.me.dlwn I remember getting one hit In and dropped the dude who brought his friends. I instantly got knocked out. I heard I was kicked in the head and all kinds of crap. I woke up minutes later in a pile of blood. Went back 2 bed woke up in balance. Went back 2 bed and finally woke up in hospital. B careful who you kick it with you never know what kind of shit people can get you into.
I used to roll with some guys 10 years ago, and it was the same thing. They said they have my back but didn't. I helped these lads on many occasions, but when it was me they were nowhere to be seen. tom Bowker had my back though, gotta say
The victim did look like he thought he was all hard and tough. If you see the original video. He was eyeballing the table punching his palms. puffing out his chest. He was looking for trouble and unfortunately for him trouble found him in a big way. Don't start trouble with someone you don't know. You don't know who they are, what they are into and what they are capable of. This guy was in to some heavy shit and having some little turd thinking he was hard, he had to sort him out. What he done was way over the top and tragic.
Can’t understand why he stabbed that young man. Alcohol really brings the worst out of some folks. RIP to Josh Hanson and peace to his family. What a senseless murder.
This is a lesson for when you go out, if you end up in an altercation your best just leaving you have no idea who you are dealing with, to be fair though its almost impossible to see this coming, the murderer at the least was a drugs dealer but more likely an underworld enforcer or hitman with the contacts he had and how he commited that so callously.
I used to work in a club and my boss, who was in his 40’s took his wife out for her birthday, he wasn’t in anyway shape or form about that life, but he stepped on someone’s foot by accident while dancing with his wife, the guy glassed him and scarred his face and neck for life. It’s awful what can happen just for no reason.
The drinking culture here is excessive. People often go out with the intention of getting as drunk as physically possible without dying from organ failure. Often the drinking starts before you've even left your home and people are drunk before they've even got to the club/pub. Cocaine also gets thrown in the mix to make things worse. Alot of young lads go out already deciding their going to start a drunken fight tonight. It's always been this way
My late grandad used to say going out after 8 o'clock pm is just drama I used think no that's just crap now days U can not trust any one u can be out minding your business and you can be killed just no words to say
@@cheshardlow5832 Pay attention to detail please. The crimes you mention were done by his friend Joseph Peel who allegedly helped him escape. He was caught with 30phones not 13. If you watch back the video again at 12:30, you’ll see that the recap of the previous convicts overlapped with the photos of the Dutch pilots and made it seem like the pilots were convicted for the cocaine and phones. The Dutch pilots were actually convicted in the Netherlands for the separate crime of importing cocaine. I found this in an article in the Telegraph. Any conviction for their role in helping O’Brien escape is unclear and this is what I was asking before you stuck your nose on.
Never understand the mentality of young blokes like this. I used to see fights growing up in town but takes a certain sort of person to want a fight after a few beers. Multiple lives ruined through sheer arrogance and stupidity. 😪
Josh stood in the same spot most of the night staring at O'Brien giving it the biggun. Murder is never justified but you don't just go up to a crocodile and pet it like it was a puppy
So true , was out a couple of weeks ago in Camden Town in the early hours . Haven’t seen that time out and about for years . Got into all sorts of trouble outside the station after my phone died and couldn’t get home . Never again .
Why does he do all of this boxing training if he uses a knife when he fights? Nobody goes to a bar/club with a knife useless they have bad intentions. If he was meant to be some kind of criminal why was he fronting up to fight in a bar? I thought with guys like that, it's only about the business and not drawing legal attention to themselves. Where was the security? I thought that a licensed premises open after 11pm had to have security?
“The relentless pursuit by the British authorities had paid dividends” Erm. Really? He was only found because he told you where he was 😂 British authorities couldn’t catch a cold, as evidenced by this video.
@@ocgtvofficial you probably should have clarified that in the video since a majority of those that watched it, didn't pick up on that imaginary thought.
The reason if you can call it that was Josh Hanson's body language. Standing there arms out flexing whilst looking over at O'brien's table the whole time. O'brien and his ego would have taken that as an insult and a challenge. And his anger overcame.him snd he had the SK in his pocket already. So sad. Wrong person to be glaring at. No justification. But just my view of how and why it went down. RIP Josh Hanson.
There's more to it than people think I know for a fact Shane wouldn't of done anything unless he felt intimidated or threatened you can see that josh is high as a kite and trying to make himself look like his something his not don't get me wrong it's a sad loss and a soul was taken things could of been done a lot different
Do you know Shane O'Brien or know of him? Straight up question. Remember reading about him at the time and the press described him as being known as a "quiet man" from a normal working class family [The Times]. He must have been connected somehow to the criminal fraternity to some extent. Was he from a traveller background?
@mcorco516 you can tell his a travler, also many are connected, hence he manage to get a plane from biggin hill is the give away what ordinary criminal can do that??
If he did not do a runner, went away then came and handed himself in the following day he would not of gotten a life sentience. I don't think he wanted to murder him just scar him badly. For the way the man was standing facing him with his shoudlers back. This shoudl not of happened and is very tragic to say the least. A moment of madness has cost two lives. Think before you make this kind of impulsive decision people.
He handed himself in because snickers died he couldn’t even be at the funeral then handed himself in shortly later. RIP snickers even though he was abit of a twat. Also met josh mum and sister in Paddington handing out leaflets I’m glad they got justice
Snickers died in 2016 he handed himself in in 2019 , also you obviously didn’t know snickers mate cos he defo wasn’t a twat , and 💯 didn’t die of an overdose. Fact !
The victim was being hostile you can see him flaring his lats out and standing with his hands in front showing he is welcoming a fight working the door for 25 years 100% the victim was being hostile with his body language doesn't mean he deserved to die but you shouldn't give it the bigun to people you don't know you never know what there capable of
He went out that night looking to kill, what a coward. He had everything planned to flee so its clear he had been thinking about doing something like this for some time. Again, absolute bloody coward
This wasn't actually a normal punter v a gangster - the normal punter was the gangster and the so-called gangster is an Irish traveller (gypsy). There was an old saying about not worrying about proper fighters but staying away from the crazies and the Irish. You will never beat a mad man or a Paddy.
Why was he carrying a knife? Nothing to do with him being Irish, he was from London. You wannabe online gangsters love these evil people and always justify what they do.
I've watched crime documentaries produced by both British and US channels and much prefer the British versions. The US ones tend to put more emphasis on sensationalism and playing on the emotions of relatives; whereas the British ones put the emphasis where it belongs - dealing with the facts and not padding out the programme with extraneous details.
The young kids old man is the infamous bank robber Sean Bradish , a lot of youngsters think the old mans rep makes them invincible , obviously not the case in this instance
Good piece, but youre missing a big part if this story in my opinion. I would never blame the victim, but at 15:15, there is no doubt he was using aggressive bidy language. There is also no mention that his father is a seroous criminal, Sean Bradish. So the implication that this was just an innocent kid in the wrong place, doesnt seem accurate to me.... Again, no disrespect to anyone, RIP to the victim, juat think the investigatelive journalism here fell short.
There always has to be another story behind crimes like this. The guy who killed him is a scumbag but the whole thing must have it’s roots in some kind of criminal rivalry.
I remember this case well the guy thar got killed did himself no favors he walked into that bar and started giving it Johnny big bollocks not saying he deserved too die of course he didn't but you've got too have the intelligence that there's always going too be someone who's a bit mental tooled up and more than ready London is a very dangerous city.
On other documentaries they analise and focus on josh behavior and body language. Clearly antagonizing shane. Apparently josh father had a beef with shane. Not justifying of course but too often victims are painted as angels and and often is not the case
you see how criminals have private jets etc, in the old days only engineers etc could afford it, now a tiktoker earns 10000 times more than the average doctor. A doctor who spent over 7 years rigorously studying books etc. what a shame, no wonder pharmaceuticals push drugs to make money, it would be better if people got paid based on their jobs, but what do i know? women should be overpaid even if they do nothing, professors of useless courses like gender fluidly need millions in their bank account etc. so dont blame nhs blame our society. we become backwards.
Detective Noel mcgugh is absolutely useless at his job. He had been investigating two seperate high profile murders around a similar time, this one and one of a young lad in Hounslow who was murdered over drugs. On both cases he had to rely on the suspect or a whistleblower handing themselves in otherwise the investigation had gone cold the police were on the verge of giving up hope. Technically mchugh and the police were unable to catch either culprit which is very worrying considering they are murderers on the loose and our police are incapable and out of their depth. Joke of a country 🤦♂️
The met raced their engineer across london under blue lights, because attmpts were being made to destroy it... Destroy what ? Ive listened to thst segment about half a dozen times, i still cant make out what the hell is being said.
Maybe the bar didn’t want to be shut down or it was gangster run The police expect the owners to give access to footage yet they’ll use it against them
Hitting someone with a blade like that is a pure act of cowardice
this has gotta be racist
Spot on
@@frankiesum1173 breathing air is rayyycist these days 😂
And evil
Nothing good ever happens out on the town after midnight. Words to live by.
That's very true. It's when you should be at your most alert even if you are drunk. Stay away from confrontations.
Alcohol is legal and cannabis isn't, what a backward country UK is.
@@shaun2463 You look so cool with your hat backwards!
@@shaun2463 No worries kid
Hat forward shaun,
Stop trying to turn back the clock you over the hill now and its time to start acting like an adult
As famous ted mosby quote says "When it's after 2:00 a.m., just go to sleep because the decisions you make after 2:00 a.m. are the wrong decisions."
@bfromthea7663 agreed
I would say after 23:00 now this day's
9pm these days 🤣🤣🤣
@@krilla6036 pretty much yeah
Couldn't just use his fists....what a cowardly scumbag !! Poor guy, poor family.....
Stopped going clubbing when I was 28/29 so many head cases out there, booze and psychos just don’t mix.
Funny that's around the same time I stopped too. Ethanol and nutters don't mix yet so true
@@jamiebury1807 last time I went clubbing some nutter half my size with the typical prison tattoos was getting in my face just because I asked him what time the club shut. I thought to myself fuck this can’t be bothered anymore don’t want to end up in the morgue or doing time in prison for defending myself. Nice pub and sone food does me good now
Same here, no more clubs for me. Everyone is itchy out there
@@uvanator2809 the worse nights was when I would go out into the town centre on fight nights, remember all the chaos and everyone fighting in the street the night AJ beat Wladmir at Wembley.
Plus cocaine.
What piece of shit takes a knife into town on a night out.
Unfortunately a lot and it’s only gonna get worse
here in the states it is like that with guns if people know the security they bring guns in. guns/knives and alcohol its a recipe for disaster
A coward 💯
a professional criminal.
A professional criminal who was probably contracted to do this
18 years in jail for being a pilot flying drugs, yet the guy recently convicted of raping a 12 year old gets community service 🤡
Yeah because government dont earn nothing from illegally imported drugs but they are all pedos who went to epstein island and hang round with prince andrew
The sentences for sexual crimes are such a joke
Because the judges don't want their upper class friends to get big sentences if they get caught, and to normalise pedophilia by lowering its perceived severity by giving trivial sentences...
Indeed. I call it the injustice system.
Sick it's f...ed
A friend of mine was a police officer attending that night. He said they all needed new boots as there was so much blood on the floor. Very sad
Josh was coked up, giving it large, flexing, & almost challenging the attacker (I blame it on the cocaine)
But, he didn’t deserve to be knifed & killed by such a cowardly bastard, he was twice the size, & he pulled a knife,
Doormen were useless, they should have spotted Josh’s aggressive body language & spoke to both men, maybe asked josh to leave ( he would be alive today if he was gently put out)
Doormen never saw what was about to happen, never saw it happen, & never stopped the guy as he left, useless
(I worked on the doors for nearly two decades) & we stopped most situations before they could start, because we spotted it early..
Can you please tell me why bouncers are so unattractive? I don't want my doormen to be repulsive looking I want hunky bodybuilders not bald permabulkers
@@jjr1728 customers would call me George Clooney when they came in because they said I looked like him, that was many years ago, now I look more like Phillip Scholfield!🤦♂️😆
josh was more than just coked up josh was a coke dealer and this has deeper ties than just a random attack. the re bar was a known coke spot
Fortunately it isn't a job requirement for a bouncer to look attractive you absolute tool@@jjr1728
You’re so full of shit, it all happened so quickly, bouncers aren’t superhero’s, there’s so much going on at any one moment.
For a small following channel this is some very good editing and commentary. Wish you all the best in building this channel
Thank you very much for your kind feedback!
RIP to the young man who passed.
🙏
Thousands of such killers roaming the streets of the UK
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You're one of them given the reason
@@tkkumarr silly accusation and unfounded presumption. Your education level must be extremely low
BS
@@artful1967 uneducated person, don' t you read the British newspapers to see the daily random steeet muggings, stabbings etc?
The scumbag had two kids and a Mrs!!. What an absolute wrong-un. He'll never know why he done this, and it'll be a constant battle for the next 26 years in prison. Facts
It’s gang gang living mate … comes with it .. all these guys got kids and mrs
He clearly has no conscience I know a lot of people that are like that but not murderers.
@@dazzaMusicmate,,there loads of people that move in this environment. But the guy Shane was towering over Josh, had no need to slash him. He could have done him with his hands. Or was he too much of a coward.
@@fareemvenosa3774 that’s why I said he doesn’t have a conscience which means he’s didn’t have a sense of what’s right and what’s wrong.
He comes from a crime family. Like Stephen Lawrence’s killers, these kind of people were raised with no conscience. He did a tattoo to cover one of his kids names. Utter psychopath
Drove past the bar the night it happened and saw all the commotion & women crying outside, couldn’t have been long after as no police had arrived yet but I could tell something bad had gone down.
We have a witness here!!!! He just had to tell us he drove past it!!!!!
Cool story bro
Cool story bro
@@hhassan1217he's giving us a feel of the night and what he saw, being someone who was around the area at the time. Don't be silly
@@hhassan1217 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A bigger fish was out to get him. Im sure thats why he handed himself in for protection. Pure Evil.
Being in prison is the complete opposite of protection from the bigger fish you idoit
More like running out of funds
You're harder to find on the run. If a bigger fish is after you, hiding in prison isn't protection. A lot hits are done in prison.
@@mitchand9exactly people dont know about that life style worst they go for your family and kids so everyone goes on the run
@@mitchand9Hiding in prison is protection if you do your bird on numbers (protection wing) with all the nonces
Can’t say the police tracked him down. He handed himself in.
And..?
@@Rosco-P.Coldchain the title of the video….
@@humphrey4976 most end up abroad untouched
He didn't hand himself in, he said he was going to and they located him before he got to hand himself in.
@@hearmenow909He made it easy for them
Just found your channel, really well put together! Great video 👏
He basically handed himself in while police handed out speeding tickets,an enforced TV licence fines.
Speeding tickets are handed out by traffic police, who are not involved in tracking down murderers. TV licence fines which involve the police (very few) are handled by uniformed constables, again not involved in tracking down murderers. There are specialist squads for tracking down murderers so do some research before you post nonsense comments.
And protecting protesters 😂
Traffic police hand out speeding tickets, they do not investigate murders. Uniformed constables sometimes assist in enforcing TV licence fines, they do not investigate murders. There are dedicated branches of the police that do investigate murders but do not deal with speeding fines or TV licence fines. Hope that clears up your rather confused ideas of how the police work.
@@mick3765 the police don't work mick,there utterly pointless, it's terrible, and if a fire arms officer dare draw his weapon there's a good chance he ends up in prison, it police management that stopped working,not the guys on the ground, but it HAS to change.
what a ridiculous comment. Do you really expect all 150 000 UK police officers to stop doing their jobs while this man is caught. There are different branches within the police, Traffic police are not going to investigate a murder case you pleb
I only saw a video about this about 2 months ago and I'm so glad to see an update that this animal has finally been caught.
Always be aware of your surroundings and unknown people who out of the blue approach you.
Especially if you're stood there flexing your muscles, coked up and basically fronting someone offering them out.
What a coward
I live just around the corner from this bar. It's a quiet suburb. Nothing ever happens around here. So this was just so strange. Thoughts with Josh and his family
Rich folk is it?
@@hhassan1217 Eastcote and Pinner are nice, Northolt a bit rougher. Fairly unremarkable suburbia
Nothing is strange when a psychopath walks in. It’s a cat amongst pigeons type of scenario.
You'd be surprised how much gang activity and knife crime there is in places like eastcote and pinner, there's been at least 3 murders i can remember in pinner in the last couple of years.
@@niceguy6152lol a cat doesn't need a weapon. This guy is piss weak.
I love how the dirty police take credit for arresting him when he rang up to give himself in complete useless cowards
The Met police are infiltrated by all these gansters. Its been the case for 30 years. Steven Lawrence's killers father had moles in the investigation that's how they got away, despite the police being told by many people who did it om the very same day.
I remember watching the full original video & the victim did look like he was giving it the large one staring and posturing towards the table where O'Brien was sitting (This isn't really shown here)... The vast majority of the time it'd just be a scrap or words & that'd be that but he got incredibly unlucky to come across a truly nasty bastard.
Yeah, saw that too. He should have kept himself to himself to be honest. You don’t know who you’re messing with out there so try not to mess with anyone.
Can't really see where he was looking/staring, but if someone gets it in their head that someone is staring at them, the obviously thrive on it an carry a knife for such situations. Definitely wasn't the first time he has thought someone was looking at him. The lad who got killed did look like he was flexing up, but anyone with a brain cell could see he was not doing this internationally, or confrontationaly, but a bully/rat would seize this opportunity to be a rat/bully
O Brien is a coke addict look how big his left nostril is compared to the right. He was probably high and paranoid.
Have to agree with you m8....the stance....the glass in hand...the swaying....and most importantly the staring...would have got a similar reaction in almost any pub/club in the country....however, I'm absolutely not condoning this or any other two-bob spineless wanker dealing with type of scenario with a knife....mindless, senseless and ultimately tragic and my heart goes out to his family and friends and I hope the dickhead finds a spine in his prison cell and takes responsibility for what he's done...
Who takes a Stanley to a night club I take condoms
Whoever fights with a knife is a coward
Mental case, some people just do not give a fuck and will throw their entire life away and someone elses for 0 reason
Love this channel but you left a few things out. The guys father is a drug dealer to and had a problem with Shane. His son was at the bar and kept giving Shane dirty looks so he went and spoke to him as you can see. His intention was to cut his face but the guy moved back and got his neck. As much as the family pretended they wasn’t drug dealers they’re and they are involved in crime
Finally, someone said it. Thank you
Ain't saying that you are wrong, but why didn't the guy use this as a defence in court then? Or did the creator mess that part up as well?
Apparently he said he never even meant to cut the guy which is just ridiculous,,, I don't get why he didn't just say that he meant to cut him, then he could have possibly got done for manslaughter
That’s no excuse
@@AkiraGuitar777 I’m not Shane. You’re asking me questions like I was the judge.
@@qt5445 never said it was one 😂
What a waste of life because of one coward.
not gna lie , the dude who died didn’t. do
himself
any favours
Let’s have some real facts on this matter. 1 , this whole case was portrayed as a gangster and a normal working lad. Well he wasn’t a normal working lad. Before Josh’s fb page was altered or taken down on advice. He was openly talking about. How well he’d done selling crack/cocaine. And that he left home with an 8ball and moved onto boxes. But the media or detectives didn’t want public to see that. , he was also a horrible violent coke sniffing bully , dislike by many. Even know that doesn’t warrant what happened to him , but if you keep poking a at people week in week out. One day your meet your match , having seen the whole footage personally there wasn’t one incident all night in that bar and everyone seemed like having a good time until Josh walked in and started being the aggressor , and even spitting in Shane’s direction and goading , and staring him down menacingly throughout. , and I re affirm again. I don’t condone what happened. , what the media never report too was Josh’s dad a prolific violent armed robber. Who has served a long time behind bars, also let me confirm. This also wasn’t about drugs. This was simply someone looking for trouble. And someone over reacting. And misjudging. And no doubt. Both highly intoxicated. Shane was never gonna get a fair trial after all the media attention , also what’s never been reported or mentioned much is ,the reason Shane skipped the country was through death threats. And even death threats to he’s children and people threatening he’s children and posting what school they went too., and had to move house. As advised by the detectives. , don’t tell you all this do they. ??? And let’s have this right too. I know Shane’s and he’s family well , there good decent quiet hard working people , fact ! , i grew up with em on same estate. , there no winners here just 2 losing familys. Mothers lost sons. Sisters lost brother brothers lost brothers. Also the man is serving he’s time , why the fuck they keep putting shitty wrong / exaggerated information. And one sided. Also ya can’t walk rnd like a bad boy and claim one status. Then run to the po po , and go all the other way. And try be all law abiding citizen, where the fuck this docu maker get his info and how he even allowed to put this shit up. Get your fucking facts straight. ,
Thank you for the context, over the years I’ve heard bits and pieces through friends of friends of friends, so to speak. I always knew there was more to this that was not being shown. Nevertheless it is a sad situation, totally agree with everything you said
Absolute 🧢
His children. Not “he’s” children.
Free Shane o brien didn't deserve the sentence he got absolute liberty
Thank you finally a decent answer 🙏
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I ran into a buddy at a bar and tagged with em and one of his acquaintances kept asking if I had his back all night. After a few bars he gets into it with a guy, I freeze for a sec then walk over and was.like fk it and pushed him and tried to scare him off... Dude comes back with 3 other big dudes and.my 'friends' were nowhere... They backed.me.dlwn I remember getting one hit In and dropped the dude who brought his friends. I instantly got knocked out. I heard I was kicked in the head and all kinds of crap. I woke up minutes later in a pile of blood. Went back 2 bed woke up in balance. Went back 2 bed and finally woke up in hospital. B careful who you kick it with you never know what kind of shit people can get you into.
You sound like an idiot judging by what you did. Maybe folk shouldn't 'kick it' with you.
White folks get drunk and start trouble
If someone asks you if you have their back before anything has even happened
Run
Do not get involved in other people's business that can end up bad, sorry for calling you simple
I used to roll with some guys 10 years ago, and it was the same thing. They said they have my back but didn't. I helped these lads on many occasions, but when it was me they were nowhere to be seen. tom Bowker had my back though, gotta say
The victim did look like he thought he was all hard and tough. If you see the original video. He was eyeballing the table punching his palms. puffing out his chest. He was looking for trouble and unfortunately for him trouble found him in a big way. Don't start trouble with someone you don't know. You don't know who they are, what they are into and what they are capable of. This guy was in to some heavy shit and having some little turd thinking he was hard, he had to sort him out. What he done was way over the top and tragic.
I agree i also dont think the fella meant to kill him he just wasnt having any of his shit and made his mind up he was slashing him for his aggro
Josh’s dad is Sean brandish just done 18 years himself
Sean Bradish,is that true?
Surely they haven't released him?
Second name is bradish mate,i come from the same area.stonebridge👍
@@bonesbones4780 What's old Vincent up to these days?
@@StefanMedici He's into property whatever that means.😊
Can’t understand why he stabbed that young man. Alcohol really brings the worst out of some folks. RIP to Josh Hanson and peace to his family. What a senseless murder.
Kenneth Noye couldn't even blame the grog.
@@brinjoness3386Watch it you.
Just a coward
@@brinjoness3386 pardon
The victim’s family are drug dealers, he was doing a lot talking before he got slashed, not stabbed.
So this guy was obviously loaded and well connected but he fucks it all up by cowardly killing someone over nothing. Genius
He would be doing a long sentence for something else if it wasn't this. Look at all his associates. Some people are just born for prison.
Loaded and well connected in the criminal underworld. He’s probably put in some work somewhere and got some good will and good pay.
This is a lesson for when you go out, if you end up in an altercation your best just leaving you have no idea who you are dealing with, to be fair though its almost impossible to see this coming, the murderer at the least was a drugs dealer but more likely an underworld enforcer or hitman with the contacts he had and how he commited that so callously.
I used to work in a club and my boss, who was in his 40’s took his wife out for her birthday, he wasn’t in anyway shape or form about that life, but he stepped on someone’s foot by accident while dancing with his wife, the guy glassed him and scarred his face and neck for life. It’s awful what can happen just for no reason.
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Why are pubs in the uk so violent I’ve seen a lot of fights and glass being smashed everywhere. I’m from the USA and I want to know why?
The drinking culture here is excessive. People often go out with the intention of getting as drunk as physically possible without dying from organ failure. Often the drinking starts before you've even left your home and people are drunk before they've even got to the club/pub. Cocaine also gets thrown in the mix to make things worse. Alot of young lads go out already deciding their going to start a drunken fight tonight. It's always been this way
UK is deceptive in this kind of culture, sorry to say 😊
They hide behind the excessive “please” and “Thank you”. Fake polite society. What you see is not what you get
To be fair,the cops didn't do much. He told them he wanted to hand himself in and wanted to be found.
Living on the run gets very tedious and depressing after a while.
@@felixjones9198 felix got a shit tonne of experience on the run being depressed
My late grandad used to say going out after 8 o'clock pm is just drama I used think no that's just crap now days U can not trust any one u can be out minding your business and you can be killed just no words to say
What is that junction at 3:57 ....??
You'll need a geoguessr champion for that
Ealing Broadway, where M@S is
Wasn't the victims dad a known bank robber
Yes, and Josh was a coke dealer who was off his tit's that night giving it the big un to the wrong person
Really enjoyed this presentation. Sad for the victim, but glad that justice prevailed.
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What a coward he's much taller ,bigger and the guy is stood with his hands in his pockets with zero aggression
The pilots got a hefty sentence! Was the full 18 yeas all for helping Shane escape?
That was for a separate offence (smuggling into UK)
@@ocgtvofficial Smuggling what? Please add some context because the way you briefly inserted it into the video didn’t really follow the storyline
@user-lx1lu8qr7e It just mentioned their sentence. It didn’t clarify the relation to this case hence the question. You could just clarify.
@@dre22 bro didn't you listen to anything. Smuggling 100kg of coke and heroin aswell as 13 encrypted phones
@@cheshardlow5832 Pay attention to detail please. The crimes you mention were done by his friend Joseph Peel who allegedly helped him escape. He was caught with 30phones not 13.
If you watch back the video again at 12:30, you’ll see that the recap of the previous convicts overlapped with the photos of the Dutch pilots and made it seem like the pilots were convicted for the cocaine and phones. The Dutch pilots were actually convicted in the Netherlands for the separate crime of importing cocaine. I found this in an article in the Telegraph. Any conviction for their role in helping O’Brien escape is unclear and this is what I was asking before you stuck your nose on.
Great reporting/ journalism.. did not know of this one. Very interesting.. Ego got the better of him.Mug.
Thanks for the comment. It is a tragic story and so perplexing as to why it happened!
@@ocgtvofficial your welcome.. keep It up.. great content.. very articulate.
"The relentless pursuit from the British authorities???". The man handed himself in 😂. The UK police is a joke!
Never understand the mentality of young blokes like this. I used to see fights growing up in town but takes a certain sort of person to want a fight after a few beers. Multiple lives ruined through sheer arrogance and stupidity. 😪
More to this story I think.
Josh stood in the same spot most of the night staring at O'Brien giving it the biggun. Murder is never justified but you don't just go up to a crocodile and pet it like it was a puppy
So true , was out a couple of weeks ago in Camden Town in the early hours . Haven’t seen that time out and about for years . Got into all sorts of trouble outside the station after my phone died and couldn’t get home . Never again .
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Why does he do all of this boxing training if he uses a knife when he fights?
Nobody goes to a bar/club with a knife useless they have bad intentions.
If he was meant to be some kind of criminal why was he fronting up to fight in a bar? I thought with guys like that, it's only about the business and not drawing legal attention to themselves.
Where was the security? I thought that a licensed premises open after 11pm had to have security?
“The relentless pursuit by the British authorities had paid dividends”
Erm. Really?
He was only found because he told you where he was 😂 British authorities couldn’t catch a cold, as evidenced by this video.
It was more in relation to the public campaign around him meant that he was probably too much of a 'hot commodity' for people to protect longer term.
@@ocgtvofficialwell done you did well with this video
@@ocgtvofficial he run out of money
He wasn't even in Britain
@@ocgtvofficial you probably should have clarified that in the video since a majority of those that watched it, didn't pick up on that imaginary thought.
Great video as always 😊
Thank you 🤗
The reason if you can call it that was Josh Hanson's body language. Standing there arms out flexing whilst looking over at O'brien's table the whole time. O'brien and his ego would have taken that as an insult and a challenge. And his anger overcame.him snd he had the SK in his pocket already. So sad. Wrong person to be glaring at. No justification. But just my view of how and why it went down. RIP Josh Hanson.
There's more to it than people think I know for a fact Shane wouldn't of done anything unless he felt intimidated or threatened you can see that josh is high as a kite and trying to make himself look like his something his not don't get me wrong it's a sad loss and a soul was taken things could of been done a lot different
You sound highly intelligent
Both was coked up, both felt threatened, but josh met a dangerous travler that night and didn't give 2 bobs
Do you know Shane O'Brien or know of him? Straight up question. Remember reading about him at the time and the press described him as being known as a "quiet man" from a normal working class family [The Times]. He must have been connected somehow to the criminal fraternity to some extent. Was he from a traveller background?
@mcorco516 you can tell his a travler, also many are connected, hence he manage to get a plane from biggin hill is the give away what ordinary criminal can do that??
How is 26 years a life sentence. Life should mean life surely
25 years is a life sentence, that's what it means. what you're thinking of is called a whole life order.
He was given a life sentence, but he has to serve at least 26 years before he can be considered for parole. That's what I read online anyway.
The re bar is in Eastcote not Hillingdon. Just saying
Yeah and camber sands is Est Sussex not Kent
Eastcote is in the borough of hillingdon same shit
Eastcote is in the borough of Hillingdon
Brilliant channel this, well done.
Thanks Mike! Love your work! :D
Suck out@@ocgtvofficial
Great channel. Always comes up with great content.
I have the impression that the two pilots who flew him out got about 17 years too much. It is unclear if they knew who he was.
So many inaccuracies in this film
Like what? I would actually like to know.
Lost for words on this one, but 26 long years behind bars sounds about right.
They never caught him, he gave himself up, they just made it look like they caught him…no
If he did not do a runner, went away then came and handed himself in the following day he would not of gotten a life sentience. I don't think he wanted to murder him just scar him badly. For the way the man was standing facing him with his shoudlers back.
This shoudl not of happened and is very tragic to say the least. A moment of madness has cost two lives.
Think before you make this kind of impulsive decision people.
He handed himself in because snickers died he couldn’t even be at the funeral then handed himself in shortly later. RIP snickers even though he was abit of a twat. Also met josh mum and sister in Paddington handing out leaflets I’m glad they got justice
What happened to snickers?
@@BA-be5vm Drug overdose
Snickers died in 2016 he handed himself in in 2019 , also you obviously didn’t know snickers mate cos he defo wasn’t a twat , and 💯 didn’t die of an overdose. Fact !
@@VossLDNwhat about twix and flake, they still alive mate?
@@AC-LING666 i don't know who that is ask your mum mate
why did Josh go and stand in front the killer squaring up?
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Thank you Willie!
The victim was being hostile you can see him flaring his lats out and standing with his hands in front showing he is welcoming a fight working the door for 25 years 100% the victim was being hostile with his body language doesn't mean he deserved to die but you shouldn't give it the bigun to people you don't know you never know what there capable of
Wow look how many murderers there are just from that estate
Like who??
Great quality video, never knew about this, thanks. Subbed
Awesome, thank you!
This is why we need to bring back capital punishment
Is this your voice or a generated one? Very cool
THE DEVIL IS A LIAR AND A MURDERER 😢
He went out that night looking to kill, what a coward. He had everything planned to flee so its clear he had been thinking about doing something like this for some time. Again, absolute bloody coward
This wasn't actually a normal punter v a gangster - the normal punter was the gangster and the so-called gangster is an Irish traveller (gypsy). There was an old saying about not worrying about proper fighters but staying away from the crazies and the Irish. You will never beat a mad man or a Paddy.
Why was he carrying a knife? Nothing to do with him being Irish, he was from London. You wannabe online gangsters love these evil people and always justify what they do.
@@pt17171 Did ye aye?
I don’t think O’Brien is a traveller though defo connected. Top boys in Ireland aren’t travellers btw though they work with them.
I've watched crime documentaries produced by both British and US channels and much prefer the British versions. The US ones tend to put more emphasis on sensationalism and playing on the emotions of relatives; whereas the British ones put the emphasis where it belongs - dealing with the facts and not padding out the programme with extraneous details.
He was being abusive and posturing towards O’brien. Turned out nasty.
You should also jail those with him on the night who helped him escape, and those who arranged his private jet out the country.
The guy at the bar was giving it large. Guess he picked the wrong one to mess with. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
How do you know this? Also it's still a life lost even if true.
The young kids old man is the infamous bank robber Sean Bradish , a lot of youngsters think the old mans rep makes them invincible , obviously not the case in this instance
How can you be jobless and on the run for 3 years. How did he obtain the funds??? That is really odd.
You can’t be serious
Selling drugs.
So naive
Funny looking propeller plane 🤔
Good piece, but youre missing a big part if this story in my opinion. I would never blame the victim, but at 15:15, there is no doubt he was using aggressive bidy language. There is also no mention that his father is a seroous criminal, Sean Bradish. So the implication that this was just an innocent kid in the wrong place, doesnt seem accurate to me.... Again, no disrespect to anyone, RIP to the victim, juat think the investigatelive journalism here fell short.
There always has to be another story behind crimes like this. The guy who killed him is a scumbag but the whole thing must have it’s roots in some kind of criminal rivalry.
I remember this case well the guy thar got killed did himself no favors he walked into that bar and started giving it Johnny big bollocks not saying he deserved too die of course he didn't but you've got too have the intelligence that there's always going too be someone who's a bit mental tooled up and more than ready London is a very dangerous city.
On other documentaries they analise and focus on josh behavior and body language. Clearly antagonizing shane. Apparently josh father had a beef with shane. Not justifying of course but too often victims are painted as angels and and often is not the case
He should have got 30 years and over for that.
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@@ocgtvofficialthank you for not using one of those idiot AI voiceovers
Refreshing to have a real commentary
you see how criminals have private jets etc, in the old days only engineers etc could afford it, now a tiktoker earns 10000 times more than the average doctor. A doctor who spent over 7 years rigorously studying books etc. what a shame, no wonder pharmaceuticals push drugs to make money, it would be better if people got paid based on their jobs, but what do i know? women should be overpaid even if they do nothing, professors of useless courses like gender fluidly need millions in their bank account etc. so dont blame nhs blame our society. we become backwards.
Word
This guy was always going to kill someone and probably lived a live of taking whatever he wanted and never accepting no.
This dude was connected
Anyone know what prison O’Brien is serving his sentence in?
Shane O’Brien. Just a naughty bastard.
He's just a fool who is now serving a life sentence.
26 years of listening to his cell-mate wanking at night, all for his fragile ego.
@@hearmenow909 serving life or free he’s still a naughty bastard.
Detective Noel mcgugh is absolutely useless at his job. He had been investigating two seperate high profile murders around a similar time, this one and one of a young lad in Hounslow who was murdered over drugs. On both cases he had to rely on the suspect or a whistleblower handing themselves in otherwise the investigation had gone cold the police were on the verge of giving up hope. Technically mchugh and the police were unable to catch either culprit which is very worrying considering they are murderers on the loose and our police are incapable and out of their depth. Joke of a country 🤦♂️
26 years because of the body language, that's a new fool
Venue was Eastcote not Hillingdon
Eastcote is in Hillingdon borough.
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Lol
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Poor young man, what horrible crime. Hope his family have found some peace.
Great story. Thanks
So the only reason he was caught is because he handed himself in. Everything else was police incompetence.
The met raced their engineer across london under blue lights, because attmpts were being made to destroy it...
Destroy what ?
Ive listened to thst segment about half a dozen times, i still cant make out what the hell is being said.
The CCTV footage.
I didn’t get that either, surely the site was secured by the police
Maybe the bar didn’t want to be shut down or it was gangster run
The police expect the owners to give access to footage yet they’ll use it against them