a friend gave me a +1 to an early screening, and it was genuinely great. the villains were the best part by far, ray stevenson is magnificent. feels like a mix of rebels and what the sequels should have been
@@iNabberI can’t say I love Andor but I personally didn’t understand the hate it received, the prison break scene was one of the most moving things I had ever seen it legit gave me goosebumps
@@a_agadir3964andor was by far the best show they’ve released yet. It was phenomenal on its story telling, yes there was a few “ filler “ episodes but it made sense in the end. Kenobi was what I was most excited for And I just felt like they didn’t give it enough thought…
@@bleeziiKenobi was okay, just a lot of wasted potential when you have him and Vader in the same show and Reva takes up most of the villian screen time
If anything, I'm more afraid that they'll do Grand Admiral Thrawn a hell of a dirty in the Ahsoka show. He's supposed to be a brilliant strategist who was steps ahead of his opponents, highly intelligent, and intimidating, and I feel like they're gonna turn him into a buffoon which I really hope not.
Im excited. In really looking forward to Asoka. But to be honest, I'm also VERY guarded too. Far to o many recent failures for me not to be nervous. If this fails, it's the nail in the coffin for me as far as Disney is concerned. I'll get my SW fix through the gaming world from that point forward.
Going to be hilarious when Luke isn't in here (thanks to Kathleen) and this will just be a twat appropriation of his story. Can't wait for all the copium!
I know a guy who went to see the first two episodes at an event here in Denmark yesterday. He liked them. And he's not a fan of Disney Star Wars in general. Here's hoping 🤞 This is literally the last chance I'm going to give Star Wars.
The plot of Ahsoka / Mandoverse should’ve been the sequel trilogy. It’s the only piece of media where the OG’s are being respected, it has built it’s own great characters and it celebrates all of star wars eras.
I love the brainstorming u guys were doing with the Filoni movie, but none of that will ever happen. As great as those ideas are, it is a pipe dream. I'll say it again, Dave Filoni is not the GOD u are making him out to be. He doesn't have complete control of Star Wars. I do believe that he could've been the next George Lucas (regarding carrying on the brand) but he has corporate overlords he must report to. And he has to do their bidding. Also, Dave is beholden to a company that is beholden to shareholders. George was not. So, George could do whatever he wanted. Sometimes to the detriment of the brand as well. I am 47 years old. I remember seeing the prequels in the theater. They were not well recieved. Period. The ONLY reason people even care about the prequels now is because Disney has screwed up things so badly. Before 2015-2019, the majority of people hated the prequels. Especially the first 2 movies. Also, to ur point about Dave being handed the reins fully, this is also not true. Again, see my above comments regarding shareholders and higher ups he has to report to. If u think for one single minute he will be left alone to do as he wishes, u are mistaken. And, WHY ISN'T DAVE DIRECTING EVERY EPISODE OF AHSOKA? U can throw out all the reasons in the world, but we've seen many shows run by one director. If he truly wanted this series to be the best of the best given the current state of Disney Star Wars, he should WANT to control this environment from beginning to end. George was able to hand off the reins of directing to others because he had made a successful product. And in George's own words, he could have still been credited as a director because he was on the set, over the shoulders of Kirschner and Marquand constantly. It's a wonder he didn't "muck things up" during the OT's final 2 movies. Remember he said during an interview where he was asked about coming in and helping with the things Disney was going to make after he sold the company. He LITERALLY said, "I would just muck things up". I WISH I had u guys' enthusiasm for Ahsoka. I WILL watch it because I am a Star Wars fan, but I am expecting the worst and hoping it is at least lore friendly and mildly entertaining. Unfortunately, from the trailers alone, it seems it will be a "force is female, corporate noted to death, EU rip off" of a show.
Unity reminds me of a really cool book called Steelheart. About an event that gave normal people Superpowers and they eventually take over Earth and break up cities into zones controlled by different Superpowered people and there's a human resistance called Reckoners. It's a cool book if you like The Boys, and post apocalyptic stuff.
Idk if this has been stated or not, but what if when Ezra goes into the WBW he pulls an Ahsoka from another timeline, a very similar one but another one nonetheless, that timeline without Ahsoka is the timeline in which the sequels happen and the one in which we have the saved Ahsoka is the one in which the sequels don't happen.
@@rob-artfarmingnz6138 yea sadly, but maybe if they just handed Dave everything Star Wars, or almost everything, it could be a very nice dream that he would just throw everything in that timeline that he (and George) would consider not good Star Wars, Kenobi would be in that timeline without Ahsoka, Mandalorian season 3, BOBF, the Sequels, Andor etc., basically that timeline could just be the thrash compactor of everything Dave and George would consider not Star Wars enough, it would be the perfect way really, the timeline with the OT, Prequels, Clone Wars, Rebels, Bad Batch, TOTJ , Mandalorian Seasons 1 & 2 would be the timeline with Ahsoka and it would be the canon one.
George did collaborate a lot with the people around him. I feel like Josh keeps ignoring this or simply doesn't know. J.W. Rinzler's books (and even the ones from Paul Duncan) express such and a lot of the prequels' documentaries showcase exactly that. Doug Chang & the rest of the gang wouldn't have come up with those incredible designs if GL weren't willing to collaborate and let others come up with ideas so that they could refine them continuously and even inform a LOT of story decisions. Filmmaking is always a collaborative process. Anyways, great conversation and MTFBWY both!
What if after the point her and Vader sense each other in rebels, she goes to tattoine to search for answers. There she finds obi wan (ewan cameo). Then she learns about Luke and has followed what he has done during the OT. That’s how she knows about him in mando season 2.
At this point my expectations are so low that I’ll probably enjoy the shit out of this show even if it is mediocre cause Disney has set the bar so unbelievably low.
I've been watching and reading Star Wars since I was 8. Im 54 now. Both these guys overthink Star Wars way too much. Just sit back and enjoy it, carry on once you've watched it.
You time being a fan dosnt make you the Arbiter of facts about Star wars , just sitting back and watch it first is what rheybwant , at some point a stand has to be made and pekole stip watching disney wars for them to get the message
@@mccleandazza4618 Rebels, Bad Batch, Tales of The Jedi, Some of The Clone Wars seasons, Visions was decent, Rogue One, Andor, and Mando. All under Disney, all of these being pretty good, some being some of the best Star Wars projects since the original trilogy. When you ignore everything good, there's only bad left.
I could see them having very little of Luke, if they Thrawn is not defeated. This makes the most sense to me. How could it be Ashoka’s show if Luke is in it too prominently? If there’s a movie later where is there to help defeat Thrawn that would be great.
You guys Manifest way 2 much Negative energy especially Josh all he's done is throw out Negative energy for 3 hours he's always negative about anything Star Wars fact is no matter what happens with the show I'm very excited Kenobi could have been better but I loved the show either the fight was EPIC...Good or Bad REAL star wars fans are Fans for life so lets not throw out negative energy for no reason could be the best show yet..definitely gonna be here for the watch party excited & ready
@@rw3452 Brother its my opinion I guarantee their gonna end up hating this series..watch..and as to me being negative that's your opinion that & i respect that in return..the least thing I am brother is a negative person I love Star Wars with the good & the bad every one has their opinions but 3 hours of manifesting bad energy is another story brother
He had virtually nothing to do with resistance, but I will say the Martez sisters arc in TCW season 7 was TRASH, that’s the only time Filoni really blew it IMO.
@@mccleandazza4618Wow four episodes in clone wars. Big deal. The episodes were more to show what happened with ahsoka and show the disillusion with the Jedi
What if the scene in the trailer with Ashoka and Sabine fighting Baylen and Shin, it’s really Ashoka and Luke fighting them and they digitally added Sabine. It’s a long shot but that would be sweet
As someone who pops into your channel every once in awhile I will just say I have no interest in this show. I will watch it ofc since it’s Star Wars, but have low expectations due to how bad I’ve been burned lately from Disney’s idea of SW. I did happen to see the preview thing where all of the top dogs working on it including Rosario were hyping it up and it got me going I won’t lie. Just a warning to other viewers, if you keep your expectations low it will be hard to be disappointed.
I have a feeling that the Tie Defender will return in the new Ahoska serie. The reason is with the return of Thrawn he may want to bring back the program for his fleet?
So they're banking everything on snips. Thing is everything's all about annoying BS girlboss I'm kind of glad Kanan is already dead. That way we won't have to see him be humiliated
Blows my mind too, Andor is an incredible show in every way. I'm betting that the same fans that are doom and gloom about every new Star Wars project will be the same way with whatever comes after Ahsoka, no matter if it sucks or is amazing.
It's because Andor was nothing like any other star wars we've ever gotten. Disney cant deliver the star wars that the entire fan base was created on so Andor came along and was just totally different after years of begging for lore heavy content. If Disney was doing the basics right and Boba, Mando, and kenobi were the home runs they should've been then people would've been more open to new ideas like Andor.
@@RogerRoger15 I get it. But as a fan of Lucas' Star Wars more than Disney, I found myself loving Andor. Maybe it's different for them, since they live Star Wars 24/7, but I find it hard to believe they could dislike it so much. Almost like the reason is there is no lightsaber wielding Jedi. I mean Star Wars Theory was complaining there weren't enough cameos in Andor, and was hoping Palpatine would show up. I just think they're too stuck in the past.
It doesn't matter if it's a good show or not, it's still a tv show that is under the star wars name. Movies have a rewatching factor much more then tv shows. I rather watch revenge of the Sith over Andor anytime
can you have guests on the show that are subscribed to the channel? (is there a way for you to vet they aren't crazy before they come on to do it effectively?)
Sadly a few of my friends have gave up on star wars after Mando S3 . Ive told them to gibe ahsoka a chance but at the moment they said they will not be watching it. There loss i guess
You guys just reminded me, it was origionally DOOKU who led the jedi against the mandalorians in the comic book that was included with star wars bounty hunter the game! Dooku knows of Fett and Montross, with Vosa being the bounty.
Thank you to you and Josh for this stream as it made me smile while I'm in hospital I have Pneumonia & pluracy so feel like death and with my oxygen mask on sound like Darth Vader 😂 you guys have made my 2wks in here easier thank you
We shouldn't go into this to analytical, im sure its gonna be good , some people want to much,, it seems if even goerge himself made a new show people might bash on it,, the force is with dave
Ahhhh there's the forever optimist disney relys on , that no matter how many times you get burned ,the next time you put your hand in the fire it won't hurt 😂 Deluded
@@mccleandazza4618 just saying, don't nit pick the small stuff, if something is Terrible then it's Terrible, but some people go looking for faults,, and even love to find them
It's always strange to me the criticism Rian Johnson gets for trying to make something original. To be fair he wasn't some guy at the time, he'd already directed looper and Brick and several episodes of breaking bad, and was thought to be one of the most promising up and coming directors around. It makes all the sense in the world to give him a project like that, it's just that his vision didn't gel with the star wars fandom, but overwhelmingly as a movie almost all critics agreed it was very well made/written
Ahsoka and Atla are my favorite western animation and Ill have biased faith in both their futures in the next few years. Animation is and always will be a spectrum of variation of exaggeration to the live action counterpart.
Kinda wild to not be super hyped for Star Wars. I'm still obviously watching as soon as it drops, but not feeling as excited as the prequel days or even The Force Awakens. Hopefully Filoni brings that hype back! He's the one guy I think can do it!
I know where you come from, but Filoni is no saver. Same was said about Favreau and suddenly he was taken out of this “saver talk” after Mandalorian 3, but Filoni also produced that show and we all know where that headed. How long you need Ahsoka to save SW and kinda create confusion about her on Original SW. He is still a Kathleen Kennedy employee.
One show/a few cool moments CANNOT redeem what Disney did to Star Wars and George Lucas. If this show ends up "bringing everyone back" to Disney then "You are truly lost!"
@@VoteSaxon99 this show will suck ass lol. It's rumored Anakin will appear in ep. 5, and he'll probably appear for a min as a flashback and that's all 😂.
People saying this is the most important show. I have to say - both Obi Wan and Boba were the important shows, and they were complete disasters. Star wars was dead the moment Lucas sold it. Most people don't care about Ahsoka as a character. Many people didn't even know who she was because the clone wars was watched by young kids.
Honestly, I have lost interest in these streams. Not because of you guys. I think you are both great and I have been a loyal fan of Nerd Theory and your fan fics etc, since the very beginning. But let me give you some advice, both for your mental health and the future of your channels. Do not rely on Disney Star Wars anymore. Try pivoting towards fan-made stories. If a bread has just one spot of mold the whole thing has to be thrown out. As long as a giant corporation directs the fate of Star Wars I do not believe we can get truly good stories. We have been hopeful for crumbs for way too long. Ever since the failure of Episode VIII our expectations have lowered gradually until this moment when we just want one good scene, or a cohesive storyline. Star Wars is 99% the main storyline of the Skywalker lineage and that is in the sewers in terms of story quality. So, How about we try focusing on fan made fiction? And how about we start creating our own stories? I think the best of Star Wars is way behind us, I think we cannot stop the force-fed movie machine that is Disney from making rushed, shallow stories. Let us take 3 years to write something new. In 3 years we could write a better trilogy together. In fact, I have already begun with an outline. But I know I am early. The game I have written which might get picked up by Warner Brothers Games is 5 years away from release at least, so I cannot present any credentials. I understand if you don't care about this, or if you don't read it, but mark my words, we are our only hope. The fans are the only ones who can save Star Wars.
At the end of the day, Andor ended up being better than Ashoka. Having experience matters - Filoni definitely has a ways to go before he can pull off the pacing and character development stuff like a Tony Gilroy can achieve.
I think I’m gonna watch the first two episodes on my own and not join the watch party. I want my opinion to be unbiased much as I respect Theory’s opinions.
@@deadlyart02 or the next ...or the next ..or the next..etc etc etc And people keep viewing cos itll always be the next one will be the one they get right
God no . I like that I can watch theory enjoy the show during the watch party without all the complaining and critiquing from josh …im down to hear his issues after just not mid show that would blow my sh*t
in no world would any big name corporation support grift farming content to promote their products It would I actually make me want to see it less if the payed someone like Jermey to go see it. Tis why I support you and Josh over people like them.
Think about how much better the Kenobi show would be simply with proper good music. Theres a couple good tunes in it but my god it was awful overall. Im.not even talking Bout the writing lol how could they do so bad on music
@@DeaDdYk3 what's there to be positive about ? And that's a genuine question by the way . Its not him just being negative for the sake of it is it , the franchise is broken , pretty much beyond repair and the hack filoni isn't going to save it with 1 show as it all leads to the abomination that is the sequels . I don't find the negative people any more annoying than the over the top people that praise everything that comes out
@@mccleandazza4618 bro wtf you ain’t a Star Wars fan at all. I’m excited just to see a live action fight with Ashoka, there’s many thing in the preview that satisfies me as a Star Wars fan. Sabine becoming a Jedi or something is crazy to me. Also the gray Jedi or whatever is my favorite. There’s a lot to talk about in Star Wars. I do hate the sequels but Dave and Jon still have my head up for hopes
I watched it last night... brilliant! but I do worry for those that haven't watched rebels, they do well to try to explain rebels without a whole recap as such. But all the negative reactions I've seen are from those who haven't watched rebels.
a friend gave me a +1 to an early screening, and it was genuinely great. the villains were the best part by far, ray stevenson is magnificent. feels like a mix of rebels and what the sequels should have been
what r your opinions on controversial star wars shows like kenobi, boba, mando
s3, andor!
@@a_agadir3964love andor, mando s3 disappointed me, can't stand kenobi, book of boba is okay
@@iNabberI can’t say I love Andor but I personally didn’t understand the hate it received, the prison break scene was one of the most moving things I had ever seen it legit gave me goosebumps
@@a_agadir3964andor was by far the best show they’ve released yet. It was phenomenal on its story telling, yes there was a few “ filler “ episodes but it made sense in the end. Kenobi was what I was most excited for
And I just felt like they didn’t give it enough thought…
@@bleeziiKenobi was okay, just a lot of wasted potential when you have him and Vader in the same show and Reva takes up most of the villian screen time
If anything, I'm more afraid that they'll do Grand Admiral Thrawn a hell of a dirty in the Ahsoka show. He's supposed to be a brilliant strategist who was steps ahead of his opponents, highly intelligent, and intimidating, and I feel like they're gonna turn him into a buffoon which I really hope not.
Or if we’ve been excited for his return this whole time only for him to come back for just a couple episodes on this show.
@@CenturianEagle Well that's how he was in Rebels and it worked out.
@@BonsaiBlacksmith but he was in rebels for awhile
Man shut the eff up watch the show then voice your fears
@@mattcarvalho4280lol what
Ahsoka in the end of Clone Wars was completely captivating and it pulled me in!!
I’m hoping for those same feels!!! 🤞🏼
when you come onto the stream 1 minute after it ended 🤣😭
Same😭💀
same 😭
Haha
Yea I went in 2hrs in 😅
Now you are sounding like a separatist.
Im excited. In really looking forward to Asoka. But to be honest, I'm also VERY guarded too. Far to o many recent failures for me not to be nervous. If this fails, it's the nail in the coffin for me as far as Disney is concerned. I'll get my SW fix through the gaming world from that point forward.
I really miss this duo ❤
So glad that Thrawn is going to make the last stand for the entire franchise.. he gotta win this one ..
Thrawn and Anakin.
thrawn never loses
@@mattirwin140Unless he’s up against Luke
Going to be hilarious when Luke isn't in here (thanks to Kathleen) and this will just be a twat appropriation of his story. Can't wait for all the copium!
tales of the jedi was the only thing I liked compared to the latest content for kenobi, mandalorian and book of boba
I love Andor guys.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
This definitely feels like the last chance for Star Wars.
its gonna be terrible like obiwan
@@Brianuwu622big difference between Dave writing and some random who didn’t even watch the prequels writing Obi Wan..Obi wan writer is a joke
@@Brianuwu622 That's what I'm afraid of.
No it doesn’t ppl need to stop being dramatic for views
Everyone will say its the last chance til the next project comes out and we all go on watch it, grow up and stop being a baby about it.
I wish the would do a series about Vader between him turning Sith and A New Hope.
I know a guy who went to see the first two episodes at an event here in Denmark yesterday. He liked them. And he's not a fan of Disney Star Wars in general. Here's hoping 🤞 This is literally the last chance I'm going to give Star Wars.
I’m cautiously optimistic about this show. If it sucks I’m sticking with the books and comics and Legends material
Yeah, yeah, that's what you all said after before the last disaster and we ended up with Jack Black with a fattie pretending to act.
Yah. The great thing about a book is that you can picture in your mind how it should be.
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS
The plot of Ahsoka / Mandoverse should’ve been the sequel trilogy. It’s the only piece of media where the OG’s are being respected, it has built it’s own great characters and it celebrates all of star wars eras.
I love the brainstorming u guys were doing with the Filoni movie, but none of that will ever happen. As great as those ideas are, it is a pipe dream. I'll say it again, Dave Filoni is not the GOD u are making him out to be. He doesn't have complete control of Star Wars. I do believe that he could've been the next George Lucas (regarding carrying on the brand) but he has corporate overlords he must report to. And he has to do their bidding. Also, Dave is beholden to a company that is beholden to shareholders. George was not. So, George could do whatever he wanted. Sometimes to the detriment of the brand as well.
I am 47 years old. I remember seeing the prequels in the theater. They were not well recieved. Period. The ONLY reason people even care about the prequels now is because Disney has screwed up things so badly. Before 2015-2019, the majority of people hated the prequels. Especially the first 2 movies.
Also, to ur point about Dave being handed the reins fully, this is also not true. Again, see my above comments regarding shareholders and higher ups he has to report to. If u think for one single minute he will be left alone to do as he wishes, u are mistaken. And, WHY ISN'T DAVE DIRECTING EVERY EPISODE OF AHSOKA? U can throw out all the reasons in the world, but we've seen many shows run by one director. If he truly wanted this series to be the best of the best given the current state of Disney Star Wars, he should WANT to control this environment from beginning to end. George was able to hand off the reins of directing to others because he had made a successful product. And in George's own words, he could have still been credited as a director because he was on the set, over the shoulders of Kirschner and Marquand constantly. It's a wonder he didn't "muck things up" during the OT's final 2 movies. Remember he said during an interview where he was asked about coming in and helping with the things Disney was going to make after he sold the company. He LITERALLY said, "I would just muck things up".
I WISH I had u guys' enthusiasm for Ahsoka. I WILL watch it because I am a Star Wars fan, but I am expecting the worst and hoping it is at least lore friendly and mildly entertaining. Unfortunately, from the trailers alone, it seems it will be a "force is female, corporate noted to death, EU rip off" of a show.
Bruh, get help.
@@George-um2vche’s not wrong it’s ok tho enjoy product consume enjoy next product like the tasteless sheep you are 🤣
Josh I love that comic trailer yeh...
Some one get Kathy Kennedy to do one of those buzz feed Star Wars quizzes 😂
That would be career suicide.
How does SWT not get access to early releases for Ahsoka and SW material??? Crazy!
Because he does nothing but trash the new content. Right or wrong.
Temper your expectations boys. Possibility that a big focus of this shows plot will be Sabine and shin falling in love for lgbtq representation.
Stupid UA-cam system gear ⚙️. Made me accidentally flag this video.😡. I said I didn’t want to flag the video. Wanted to increase the res on the video.
Unity reminds me of a really cool book called Steelheart. About an event that gave normal people Superpowers and they eventually take over Earth and break up cities into zones controlled by different Superpowered people and there's a human resistance called Reckoners. It's a cool book if you like The Boys, and post apocalyptic stuff.
I loved Andor, but Rebels season 3 and 4 was amazing. I’m hoping that will carry over to this show.
Andor was trash
Josh called it… the constant let downs…… 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
Man so many people are hoping this is a good show. Whereas im just over it altogether, its a shame but SW is no longer something that gets me excited.
Idk if this has been stated or not, but what if when Ezra goes into the WBW he pulls an Ahsoka from another timeline, a very similar one but another one nonetheless, that timeline without Ahsoka is the timeline in which the sequels happen and the one in which we have the saved Ahsoka is the one in which the sequels don't happen.
Wow that's beautiful... But Disney wouldn't do it.
@@rob-artfarmingnz6138 yea sadly, but maybe if they just handed Dave everything Star Wars, or almost everything, it could be a very nice dream that he would just throw everything in that timeline that he (and George) would consider not good Star Wars, Kenobi would be in that timeline without Ahsoka, Mandalorian season 3, BOBF, the Sequels, Andor etc., basically that timeline could just be the thrash compactor of everything Dave and George would consider not Star Wars enough, it would be the perfect way really, the timeline with the OT, Prequels, Clone Wars, Rebels, Bad Batch, TOTJ , Mandalorian Seasons 1 & 2 would be the timeline with Ahsoka and it would be the canon one.
George did collaborate a lot with the people around him. I feel like Josh keeps ignoring this or simply doesn't know. J.W. Rinzler's books (and even the ones from Paul Duncan) express such and a lot of the prequels' documentaries showcase exactly that. Doug Chang & the rest of the gang wouldn't have come up with those incredible designs if GL weren't willing to collaborate and let others come up with ideas so that they could refine them continuously and even inform a LOT of story decisions. Filmmaking is always a collaborative process.
Anyways, great conversation and MTFBWY both!
What if after the point her and Vader sense each other in rebels, she goes to tattoine to search for answers. There she finds obi wan (ewan cameo). Then she learns about Luke and has followed what he has done during the OT. That’s how she knows about him in mando season 2.
At this point my expectations are so low that I’ll probably enjoy the shit out of this show even if it is mediocre cause Disney has set the bar so unbelievably low.
Supposed to come out nice and early too!!
I've been watching and reading Star Wars since I was 8. Im 54 now. Both these guys overthink Star Wars way too much. Just sit back and enjoy it, carry on once you've watched it.
You time being a fan dosnt make you the Arbiter of facts about Star wars , just sitting back and watch it first is what rheybwant , at some point a stand has to be made and pekole stip watching disney wars for them to get the message
@@mccleandazza4618 Rebels, Bad Batch, Tales of The Jedi, Some of The Clone Wars seasons, Visions was decent, Rogue One, Andor, and Mando. All under Disney, all of these being pretty good, some being some of the best Star Wars projects since the original trilogy.
When you ignore everything good, there's only bad left.
I could see them having very little of Luke, if they Thrawn is not defeated. This makes the most sense to me. How could it be Ashoka’s show if Luke is in it too prominently? If there’s a movie later where is there to help defeat Thrawn that would be great.
You guys Manifest way 2 much Negative energy especially Josh all he's done is throw out Negative energy for 3 hours he's always negative about anything Star Wars fact is no matter what happens with the show I'm very excited Kenobi could have been better but I loved the show either the fight was EPIC...Good or Bad REAL star wars fans are Fans for life so lets not throw out negative energy for no reason could be the best show yet..definitely gonna be here for the watch party excited & ready
It’s not negative. You just see it that way. You might even say you are being negative.
@@rw3452 Brother its my opinion I guarantee their gonna end up hating this series..watch..and as to me being negative that's your opinion that & i respect that in return..the least thing I am brother is a negative person I love Star Wars with the good & the bad every one has their opinions but 3 hours of manifesting bad energy is another story brother
@@4kvintagesports768 Watch Joshs Review of the first 2 episodes. He actually likes them. ;)
@@mrj1299 I seen that brother..thats what im saying tho give the show a chance the first 2 episodes felt good had a real Star Wars vibe to em..
Boba Fett is the only show that ever made me hate a character i loved.
None of that happened. Boba died in the sarlacc pit
The authenticity is why I love these, merch looks fire too
Honestly at this point I just don't care anymore. It it sucks I won't even be surprised.
4:03 "Everything Filoni makes is like George Lucas is still there"
You must've forgot about Star Wars Resistance
The first 4 episodes of clone wars season 7 was dog 💩too
He had virtually nothing to do with resistance, but I will say the Martez sisters arc in TCW season 7 was TRASH, that’s the only time Filoni really blew it IMO.
Well I mean he’s not wrong, for every good thing George Lucas did there was a lot of crap as well. So Dave is just keeping that tradition alive.
@@George-um2vc Well he's credited as the creator of it... bad look for him
@@mccleandazza4618Wow four episodes in clone wars. Big deal. The episodes were more to show what happened with ahsoka and show the disillusion with the Jedi
Andor was great!! 🤷🏽♂️
What if the scene in the trailer with Ashoka and Sabine fighting Baylen and Shin, it’s really Ashoka and Luke fighting them and they digitally added Sabine. It’s a long shot but that would be sweet
I’m really excited for ahoska, if they screw up I swear I’ve given up for Star Wars.
I've already given up after Mando S3.
why are you here then?
@@liamphibiawhy are you here then? Seriously just to hate?
@@maryam_7867yeah good question.
I’m way too excited for this show!!
As someone who pops into your channel every once in awhile I will just say I have no interest in this show. I will watch it ofc since it’s Star Wars, but have low expectations due to how bad I’ve been burned lately from Disney’s idea of SW. I did happen to see the preview thing where all of the top dogs working on it including Rosario were hyping it up and it got me going I won’t lie. Just a warning to other viewers, if you keep your expectations low it will be hard to be disappointed.
What’s the name of joshes channel ?
The Den of Nerds
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The Den of Nerds Live (great Streams almost daily)
I have a feeling that the Tie Defender will return in the new Ahoska serie. The reason is with the return of Thrawn he may want to bring back the program for his fleet?
So they're banking everything on snips. Thing is everything's all about annoying BS girlboss I'm kind of glad Kanan is already dead. That way we won't have to see him be humiliated
Can’t wait for the stream tomorrow and Ashoka. 🎉
Rewatching after last night's news I'm going to miss this so much
Imagine having Luke, Ahsoka and Ezra as a team.
And after that? Sequels 👎
@@kolaranze yeah, that really messed up the franchise.
What happens if Asoka is great? She would be a diamond ring flushed down the toilet trying to make gold from sewage.
Exactly
Question for the new merch, do they run big? Small? Thinking about getting a large, but I'm normally a medium.
I thought it was tonight 🤦🏼♀️
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Jesus loves you guys so much
The fact that these two didnt really like Andor just blows my mind. I truly think nothing really will satisfy these types of fans.
Blows my mind too, Andor is an incredible show in every way. I'm betting that the same fans that are doom and gloom about every new Star Wars project will be the same way with whatever comes after Ahsoka, no matter if it sucks or is amazing.
It's because Andor was nothing like any other star wars we've ever gotten. Disney cant deliver the star wars that the entire fan base was created on so Andor came along and was just totally different after years of begging for lore heavy content. If Disney was doing the basics right and Boba, Mando, and kenobi were the home runs they should've been then people would've been more open to new ideas like Andor.
@@RogerRoger15 I get it. But as a fan of Lucas' Star Wars more than Disney, I found myself loving Andor. Maybe it's different for them, since they live Star Wars 24/7, but I find it hard to believe they could dislike it so much. Almost like the reason is there is no lightsaber wielding Jedi. I mean Star Wars Theory was complaining there weren't enough cameos in Andor, and was hoping Palpatine would show up. I just think they're too stuck in the past.
@@KingEdwardMMVIIIbro you clearly haven’t seen his real opinions you are a classic brain dead chatter with no context
It doesn't matter if it's a good show or not, it's still a tv show that is under the star wars name.
Movies have a rewatching factor much more then tv shows. I rather watch revenge of the Sith over Andor anytime
can you have guests on the show that are subscribed to the channel? (is there a way for you to vet they aren't crazy before they come on to do it effectively?)
This episode makes u realize just how young ahsoka was to
I don't see how people hate on Andor. I think it is in the top 5 Star Wars movies/shows ever made. It isn't even debatable.
Sadly a few of my friends have gave up on star wars after Mando S3 . Ive told them to gibe ahsoka a chance but at the moment they said they will not be watching it. There loss i guess
They might miss out on one good show, but overall they made the right choice, the fans didn’t want to leave, but LF drove them out, it is what it is.
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Who is the mandalorian and who are they fighting??
You guys just reminded me, it was origionally DOOKU who led the jedi against the mandalorians in the comic book that was included with star wars bounty hunter the game! Dooku knows of Fett and Montross, with Vosa being the bounty.
Thank you to you and Josh for this stream as it made me smile while I'm in hospital I have Pneumonia & pluracy so feel like death and with my oxygen mask on sound like Darth Vader 😂 you guys have made my 2wks in here easier thank you
Hope you get well soon!
@@LageUA-cam thank you 😊
Comic looks dope!
Grabbed the pullover, stoked to get it!
I've got hope for Ahsoka
Need Josh back bro! I missing nerd theory so much.
"What do you think kk smells like?" Lies covered in deceit
How did they get Elon to play Thrawn in Ahsoka?
I said the same thing a few days ago! Looks exactly like Elon musk right??
We shouldn't go into this to analytical, im sure its gonna be good , some people want to much,, it seems if even goerge himself made a new show people might bash on it,, the force is with dave
Ahhhh there's the forever optimist disney relys on , that no matter how many times you get burned ,the next time you put your hand in the fire it won't hurt 😂
Deluded
@@mccleandazza4618 just saying, don't nit pick the small stuff, if something is Terrible then it's Terrible, but some people go looking for faults,, and even love to find them
@@eethkoth4872 good for rhem rhey don't have to look very hard then ....the franchise is broken and there is no repairing it
Ça serait intéressant dans les derniers épisodes d'Ahsoka que l'on la voie rejoindre Manda et Grogu.
Hoping for a great show.
It's always strange to me the criticism Rian Johnson gets for trying to make something original. To be fair he wasn't some guy at the time, he'd already directed looper and Brick and several episodes of breaking bad, and was thought to be one of the most promising up and coming directors around. It makes all the sense in the world to give him a project like that, it's just that his vision didn't gel with the star wars fandom, but overwhelmingly as a movie almost all critics agreed it was very well made/written
Probably the coolest jacket I’ve ever seen! I’d love to get one but rn I’m a brokie! 😢
I just wanna see Luke do some of the crazy stuff he does in legends. Starkiller level stuff
Ahsoka and Atla are my favorite western animation and Ill have biased faith in both their futures in the next few years.
Animation is and always will be a spectrum of variation of exaggeration to the live action counterpart.
Kinda wild to not be super hyped for Star Wars. I'm still obviously watching as soon as it drops, but not feeling as excited as the prequel days or even The Force Awakens. Hopefully Filoni brings that hype back! He's the one guy I think can do it!
I know where you come from, but Filoni is no saver. Same was said about Favreau and suddenly he was taken out of this “saver talk” after Mandalorian 3, but Filoni also produced that show and we all know where that headed. How long you need Ahsoka to save SW and kinda create confusion about her on Original SW. He is still a Kathleen Kennedy employee.
It's amazing how we all were just yesterday 👊💀🍻🚬
One show/a few cool moments CANNOT redeem what Disney did to Star Wars and George Lucas. If this show ends up "bringing everyone back" to Disney then "You are truly lost!"
It's simple; if the shows title begins with "A", it will be good 👍🏻
Andor was a snooze fest
Wait till Theory finds out Disney didn’t even make Toy Story… Pixar is just another company they purchased lol.
Idky, but I feel like the opening scene of the show is gonna open with young ahsoka and anakin, just theorizing
No we know it doesn’t from the early screenings, keep your expectations in check coz it ain’t happening, but maybe later in the season.
@@George-um2vc did anyone you know who went and watched the premiere early say that?
@@usernotfound342yes, there's no Anakin in the first 2 episodes
@@VoteSaxon99 this show will suck ass lol. It's rumored Anakin will appear in ep. 5, and he'll probably appear for a min as a flashback and that's all 😂.
@@usernotfound342 We're also gonna see yet another character survive a lightsaber to the stomach
Can't wait to see the Rebel Moon trailer 👀
People saying this is the most important show. I have to say - both Obi Wan and Boba were the important shows, and they were complete disasters. Star wars was dead the moment Lucas sold it.
Most people don't care about Ahsoka as a character. Many people didn't even know who she was because the clone wars was watched by young kids.
Just because someone likes something you don’t doesn’t make them a shill🤣
Everybody is so excited of going into Ahsoka, so was Luke💀
Honestly, I have lost interest in these streams. Not because of you guys. I think you are both great and I have been a loyal fan of Nerd Theory and your fan fics etc, since the very beginning. But let me give you some advice, both for your mental health and the future of your channels. Do not rely on Disney Star Wars anymore. Try pivoting towards fan-made stories. If a bread has just one spot of mold the whole thing has to be thrown out. As long as a giant corporation directs the fate of Star Wars I do not believe we can get truly good stories. We have been hopeful for crumbs for way too long. Ever since the failure of Episode VIII our expectations have lowered gradually until this moment when we just want one good scene, or a cohesive storyline. Star Wars is 99% the main storyline of the Skywalker lineage and that is in the sewers in terms of story quality. So, How about we try focusing on fan made fiction? And how about we start creating our own stories? I think the best of Star Wars is way behind us, I think we cannot stop the force-fed movie machine that is Disney from making rushed, shallow stories. Let us take 3 years to write something new. In 3 years we could write a better trilogy together. In fact, I have already begun with an outline. But I know I am early. The game I have written which might get picked up by Warner Brothers Games is 5 years away from release at least, so I cannot present any credentials. I understand if you don't care about this, or if you don't read it, but mark my words, we are our only hope. The fans are the only ones who can save Star Wars.
At the end of the day, Andor ended up being better than Ashoka. Having experience matters - Filoni definitely has a ways to go before he can pull off the pacing and character development stuff like a Tony Gilroy can achieve.
I think I’m gonna watch the first two episodes on my own and not join the watch party. I want my opinion to be unbiased much as I respect Theory’s opinions.
Only for EEUU, in Europe looks like we dont pay the same and have to wait to the wedsnesday and get all spoiled. Gonna watch it on online websites.
That's a 99% chance that they will show how a ahsoka and Luke met
Luke won't be anywhere near this , Kennedy wants him buried
Luke won’t be in this show, just a feeling, Anakin in some capacity yes, but not Luke, hope I’m wrong though, Luke is the goat.
No you guys are wrong. Trust me, they have to show how Luke and Asoka met somehow
Somewhere and if it's not in this show it will be in another show
@@deadlyart02 or the next ...or the next ..or the next..etc etc etc
And people keep viewing cos itll always be the next one will be the one they get right
I get it your channel depends on keeping hope alive. They killed it you need to join the resistance.
You should do a watch party together now
God no . I like that I can watch theory enjoy the show during the watch party without all the complaining and critiquing from josh …im down to hear his issues after just not mid show that would blow my sh*t
@@alexandernoir277 Fair
I joined at the last second and only watched 1 second of the stream, massive L for me....
in no world would any big name corporation support grift farming content to promote their products
It would I actually make me want to see it less if the payed someone like Jermey to go see it.
Tis why I support you and Josh over people like them.
Need some panel hat love
Think about how much better the Kenobi show would be simply with proper good music. Theres a couple good tunes in it but my god it was awful overall. Im.not even talking Bout the writing lol how could they do so bad on music
I watched it last night and all I'm saying... Look very closely to who is listed in the voice audio credits!!!!
Ayo???
@@PrinceoftheDeadd Sam witwer, idk who or when or if it’s just a small thing, but what if it’s not
As much as I like Josh, he always has the worst reason on why he doesn’t like a show
Always hella negative it’s exhausting
He said the shows were 💩 ..he was right
@@mccleandazza4618 I like joshes opinion don’t get me wrong I agree with him some of the time but he’s so negative all the time
@@DeaDdYk3 what's there to be positive about ? And that's a genuine question by the way .
Its not him just being negative for the sake of it is it , the franchise is broken , pretty much beyond repair and the hack filoni isn't going to save it with 1 show as it all leads to the abomination that is the sequels .
I don't find the negative people any more annoying than the over the top people that praise everything that comes out
@@mccleandazza4618 bro wtf you ain’t a Star Wars fan at all. I’m excited just to see a live action fight with Ashoka, there’s many thing in the preview that satisfies me as a Star Wars fan. Sabine becoming a Jedi or something is crazy to me. Also the gray Jedi or whatever is my favorite. There’s a lot to talk about in Star Wars. I do hate the sequels but Dave and Jon still have my head up for hopes
Hyped for this show
I watched it last night... brilliant! but I do worry for those that haven't watched rebels, they do well to try to explain rebels without a whole recap as such. But all the negative reactions I've seen are from those who haven't watched rebels.