Dumawall Wall Tile Installation Basics || Groutless Tile How To
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- Опубліковано 20 бер 2020
- I love this product because it is 100% waterproof, there is no wait time for grout to cure before use, and you don't have to worry about cleaning grout after the fact! I'm not endorsed by Dumawall but I am very pleased with how easy it is to use their product. If this is your first time tiling, this is a great product because you don't need to buy special tools. This video shows you pretty much everything you need to know to have a successful first tile job.
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Really should tank/seal the wall before applying any tile though. If your sealant fails in just one spot then you’ll have a failed wall behind and may not know it for years. A tub and water proof paint and tape costs only about 60 bucks.
I have a mobile home on some land and I'll be renovating the bath area. I plan on using this system. Thanks for the video!
Great info I have to bathrooms I want to try this on. The price is great as well
We are working on tiling our tub/shower this week! Very different type of tiles/product but we appreciate the inspiration and encouragement.
Julia Captain what product are you using??!
@@SpiritofaHandyman tiles we got at the ReStore 2 years ago... and the cheapest thin set available at the store, naturally. We had mold and had to replace almost everything.
@@juliacaptain9124 I would LOVE to see the before and after pictures :) :)
I'm going to try this on my bathroom renovation--a tub surround. It's called Palisade now, but is the same product. This video was very helpful, thanks!
I'll be using GoBoard backer board and waterproofing that well. Then I'll do what's done with tile and use silicone in the inside corners so I won't be using their trims - I really want a sleeker look anyway. I don't think you need the inside corner trim unless you want to hide bad cuts. I'll be using Schluter jolly trim in other areas. Some of the older Dumawall pics show metal trims--so there are options.
I'll be constructing a couple of niches and creating a glass tile "waterfall" vertical accent on one side. For the outside corners of the niches and the edge of the glass tile band, I'll use a tiny Jolly trim in polished chrome (which will match my bathroom fixtures). I'm hoping to end up with a very minimal metallic line in those areas.
Because my tub is in a tiny 5' x 5' room with the toilet, I've decided to do the whole room with these tiles, up to the ceiling too. That'll also keep me from having to do an edge trim.
I've been going back and forth between using real ceramic/porcelain tiles vs these vinyl tiles, but I keep coming back to these. Large format tiles can be challenging to work with and I can cut Dumawall/Palisade tiles more easily. When I look at my tile samples at home, these look just as nice as real tiles and I won't need to rent a wet saw or buy diamond blades.
I can't wait to see how mine works out!
Can't wait to hear how it goes! That sounds like you're on a great path to a successful plan!
Great video. Sold. 🙏🏽
Two years ago I used Dumawall to do a waterproof wainscot in my garage. I really like the result and it's so easy to install. The only downside I had was that Lowe's stocked the tile, but not the trim pieces. It was like buying a car and finding out it didn't come with wheels. I managed to order the trim I needed through Amazon, and finish the project. I had enough left over, that this week I decided to use it up by doing a shower right over the top of ceramic tile.
Yes!! Very true. I had the same trouble
How did putting this product over the tile work out for you? I was wanting to do the same thing. It is a wall of those cheap white square tiles that are just a few cents.
@@lillithjones993 It worked great. It was a super easy installation, and looks 100% better than the old boring white 4" tiles. I also like that it's not so cold to the touch as tile. The only hassle was finding the trim as I said in the original post. (I found it on Amazon)
Did you add trim along the top against the celing
Thanks for the video. My only concern is the bottom of that window. The trim is higher than the tile itself which could prevent water from flowing out of the sill. I'm wondering if there's a way to even out the trim with the thickness of the tile material.
Didn't you watch the Dumawall install video? Adhere the tile, then apply thin bead of sealant along the top edge to waterproof. Seems like adding the sealer while holding the tile and then applying adhesive to the back is complicated and messy.
Just the video i was looking for! What color is that? I'm sitting in front of a sample of Frost Nickle. I'll be installing over existing tile and bullnose trim. Not sure how I'm going to do the edges as the tile sticks out about 3/4 inch from the wall. Also there is no wall on the right side of the tub. It's a shelf that can be used to sit on or put bottles/shower stuff on. So that'll be interesting. It's only temporary as a complete remodel is due in a few years.
This color is Rain Cloud.
Been looking at this product and your video explains the window pretty good.
What color tile is this
Is the rain frost you used a matte finish or glossy? I picked up just today the carrara marble to do a kitchen backsplash.
it is a matte finish
Seems like it turned out pretty well. I’m about to start mine but how did you fit the tile pieces in the back corners with the corner trim pieces already in place, or were they? Did you go from top down? Thanks
I installed the corner pieces first and then flexed the wall pieces into place. The top corners were the last to get installed and the most challenging
Great Video! You sold me on this Product!! Question for you? after cutting the flange off the first starting row on the tub surface .. what did you use to seal that connecting to the tub surface? I am assuming silicone??
I used a silicone caulk in all the corners and around the bottom where the tiles meet up against the tub.
Hey Spirit of a Handyman! Question for you ?? on the big wall of tub did you use corner trim? if so how did you install the last row?
That is the hardest part for sure! for most of the rows you can lock it in and slide it down into place in the inside corner trim. But for the very top piece it is tricky and you have to cut it just right and slip it in there
Can you put this over durarock? And if you can. Can you use red guard as well?
According to their website
How is your install holding up? Been considering Dumawall for a bathroom remodel but I'm concerned that PVC expands & contracts with temperature change. Any issues with panels buckling or separating? How is the finish holding up. I have severe hard water stains on my old fiberglass tub and I'd expect that problem to be far worse with Dumawall. As you know the decorative surface is no more than a few thousands of an inch thick - apparently sprayed on. And that finish coat is somewhat porous. As an experiment I marked a sample panel with a Sharpie felt pen and when I tried to clean it off the decorative finish came with it. Try that with a glazed ceramic tile and it cleans off easily with a bit of alcohol.
It's only been one year since install but still like new
Hey very intersting. You put so much silicon. Now i m not sur i put enough my self. Do you think it is possible To add some more on the joint directly afterward ? Like transparent one.
Yes, I think you can run a thin bead along the seam and wipe it away as you go. You'll end up with some added protection
You should use Red Guard or another waterproof coating before starting your wall covering. You should also put the silicone for the joints onto the piece that is already on the wall. Also, this stuff cuts very easily with a sharp utility knife. Just score it a few times using a straight edge and snap it off.
Exactly
Where did you get the corner piece? I don't see Lowe's sells them. Or the jtrim
We had to order them from Amazon because they weren't available at Lowes
I purchased everything except adhesive and sealant from "diydecorstore.com/product-category/wall/brands-wall/dumawall/", I found the recommended adhesive and sealant from Lowes because it is important to use fresh product, and I didn't want to count on them shipping me old stuff (shelf life is I think one year but I would use anything over 6 months).
Anyway, the diydecorstore is a great site and you will see they have everything you need and every color available and they will ship you free samples (you pay shipping). They offer a 5 pack of trim (much cheaper that way) but I didn't need 5 pieces of the same trim. The girl I ordered from said no problem and I got 3 corners and 2 j channels for the kit price.
I don't mean to be so long winded, but I only wanted to have to do this job once, do it right, and get the best color tile, and that website was the only place I could find the selection, the samples, and the trim in one place. We had 6 different samples taped to the wall a week before we made a decision. It turned out better than me or the wife could have ever imagined. Good luck.
@@bogieman101 That's fantastic! Thanks for the detailed review for DIYDecorstore.com We will have to check them out
How did you install the window sill piece at an angle?
I think I just put a leftover thin piece of dumawall along the edge of the window and used that to create the 1/4" slope for the tile
Hi I installed this material for my new shower but I did not managed to seal the plates together with silicone. It's explained very small in the notice, I only understood that after.
Do you think this is a real problem ?
I think you are okay. It is an interlocking system so it should be fine. I just used silicone as a safety precaution
Hey I actually was looking for a video about the inside corners. The only other video I found calls for the L trim but then you have to order it from the manufacturer as Lowe's doesn't carry it. How did you do the corners without the L trim from manufacturer? Thanks
We order all trims through acp through in USA. We live in Canada and took 4days to receive. Here is contact
Kimberley Delsart
-ACP Solutions-
Commercial Sales Division
E-mail - kimdelsart@acpideas.com
920-886-6790 Direct Line
800-434-3750 ext. 1790 Office
800-434-3751 Fax attn: Kim
I feel like I did use the L trim in this video, so I'm not quite sure what you mean.
I used this product on another bathroom and didn't buy the manufactured trim and instead used an inside corner tile that I siliconed into place and that also had a nice look to it
@@SpiritofaHandyman what's an inside corner tile? Is that a real tile that you paired with this dumawall or what? They sell the panels at my Lowe's but no Lowe's within 2 hours has the right size trim pieces I need to go with this. Waiting to hear back from manufacturer how long it would take if I buy from them
@@sam5miy Here's where I got the inside corner that you see in this video: smile.amazon.com/s?k=dumawall+inside+corner+trim&crid=1BZN4DX0QFXJ6&sprefix=dumawall+insi%2Caps%2C152&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_13
At the other job I used a quarter round white tile that I paired with the dumawall tile.
Can you provide what shade or color pattern this particular install shows
Rain Cloud
Can you 45 degree mitre external corners on the tiles around a window reveal instead of using external corner trims
I don't think so but I haven't tried. I would think the tile would chip if you tried to cut it that thin
Thanks
I will give it a try when I start the project.if it chips I can use self adhesive trim.
I actually contacted Dumawall and they said they use trims but in principle it should work.
I will let you know how I get on.
@@owengorman9076 Excellent! Please keep us posted!
Yes you can mitre the tiles but it is very time consuming so I had to butt them as I didn’t have enough time but I managed to form a hidden cupboard behind. Couple of tiles which is cool
Does the silicone get stain, mold or turn yellow? My area has hard water and it leaves water spot like crazy on my current shower tiles. Does this one water spot resistant?
It has only been two years since we did this install but so far there haven't been any water spots or stains. This particular caulk product is supposed to be mildew resistant.
Great. Thanks for your video.
I would definitely use a notched trowel to spread the adhesive on the panels. Better adhesion and more flush and level.
How would you clean the trowel after use?
They make cheap plastic ones you can throw away afterwards. Or you can use appropriate solvent to clean. I appreciate the video and the install looks good but you need some serious improvements in your caulking abilities.
cameraman made me so seasick I couldn't watch!
How is the duma wall holding up since you installed it r u still happy with it? I bought some samples to see what color I like.
Still holding up well!
What brand of grout are you using?
That product does not use grout. It will look beautiful with a careful install (hint-don't get sealant everywhere)
Hey Handyman,
Got dumawall for our shower area. After a long process of a complete remodel of our 1940's bathroom I've arrived at the point of putting our dumawall on the shower interior. I have cement board and slightly uneven surfaces where the boards meet due to quickset.
Wondering.. will the generous application of power grab mitigate the deviation of the wall and still be mostly flat to the naked eye?
I would want the subsurface to be as level as possible so that if/when someone pushes on the tiles they don't buckle inward. The answer to your question is that it would probably work, but I don't think it would be worth the risk. Go ahead and skim coat the wall to make everything smooth and even.
Hey brother how much did the tile cost? My bathroom looks to be about the same size. Did you get them from Lowe’s?
These came from Lowes and I want to say they were $75/box and I used 4 or 5 boxes.
I don't know if you bought them or not. Be aware getting the trim pieces is a little tricky through Lowes. Easier to get trim on Amazon.
I don't see the required tempered glass etching in the corner of the window. I guess it could be at the top of the pane but that is rare.
Can you explain what you mean?
@@SpiritofaHandyman It just may be the angle near the end of the video. Any window that is within 5 feet of the tub floor must be made of tempered / safety glass. Those all have an etched "bug" or symbol in the corner of each piece of glass. Now that I look again, that window may be more than 5 feet above the tub floor but that is something you would need to confirm.
Steve Stanczyk that’s good to know! This window was more than 5’ off the height of the tub floor
Hello Please what's the reference of the color please ? 👍
I believe This was Rain Cloud
Why didn't you just put a bead on the tile on the wall? Alot less mess. Plus those corner pieces are a waste of time. Plus really expensive.
Exactly my thoughts but how would you do an outside corner with just caulk
Really disagree with you there. I used the Dumawall as a tub shower surround and the inside corners really improve the water resistance, and if you have a wall that is not plumb as mine was (1970 tile job) it greatly helps with not having to make exact custom cuts with each piece. I still tried to get as close as I could.
Where the tile stopped on each outside edge, I though about not using the j trim and just caulking, but the tile is not the same color throughout and it would have taken an unsightly thick caulk bead to cover it. The J trim looked professionally finished and will never need any more attention (recaulk). Where the tile stopped on the top (6 ft above the edge of the tub) I did not use the trim as I thought it would look bulky, and it also turned out great.
"Choosen" 😐 Soooo... this is just a temporary product and you just remove it and reinstall when the silicone lets go? Silicone has to be reaplied in environments like this and if just squishing some on top was good enough you could just install regular tile like that... which you cant. This seems like it might be good for a trailer or a temp solution until your real shower wall material is available.
knoeiwerk
Some good tips...
But the person handling the camerawas JERKY and it was diostracting!
Wonderfully informative video but, my dude, please invest in a tripod.
I wanted to watch. Please use a tripod. Made me motion-sick. Sorry.
is the camera person drunk?
Cameraman seems drunk.🤣🤘
whos working the camera ....im sea sick
Unwatchable.
I dont want to be hard on people but I really can't believe a grown-up needs to be told to hold the hold the camera still. Barely watchable with all the unnecessary movement. Common sense is so uncommon that the term itself is a contradiction
LOL, I had my 5 year old holding the camera since my hands had to be used on the tile. I'll use a tripod next time
Bad camera man to much shaking
looked like a good product BUT MAN the video is NOT good seasick roller coaster effect is not conducive to your instructional video.
Get a tripod!!
THE WORST FILMING EVER!