Ranking the Grass Starter Pokemon Weakest to Strongest

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  • @AD-tj4jc
    @AD-tj4jc 10 місяців тому +319

    No UNIVERSE were decidueye and mega sceptile are worse than MEGANIUM.

    • @TheDragonstorm1993
      @TheDragonstorm1993 10 місяців тому +8

      At least Decidueye is (both) Decidueye

    • @thatcockatielguy1680
      @thatcockatielguy1680 10 місяців тому +14

      Meganium should be 1st

    • @zekohuehue
      @zekohuehue 10 місяців тому +44

      @@thatcockatielguy1680 From the bottom

    • @xx1nfamousjjxx531
      @xx1nfamousjjxx531 10 місяців тому +3

      Facts bro

    • @rampage0092
      @rampage0092 10 місяців тому +29

      💯💯💯 Mystic was coping hard the moment Meganium wasn’t last

  • @valiantchris6456
    @valiantchris6456 10 місяців тому +105

    Meganium not placed at rock bottom?
    I'm surprised!

    • @oilerfan871
      @oilerfan871 10 місяців тому +12

      I think this is the person who made a video ranking the starter trios years ago and put the mono type/no special form Johto starters in first.

    • @Sakurasan2023
      @Sakurasan2023 10 місяців тому

      Same

  • @oliverorchard6774
    @oliverorchard6774 10 місяців тому +76

    Meganium being higher than both Decidueyes and Sceptile doesn't make sense at all. I like Meganium a lot, but it is the worst starter of all time.

    • @KFG-gg41451
      @KFG-gg41451 10 місяців тому +3

      Decidueye is awful as well. He is built like a Gen 3 Pokémon. Slow, fragile, mixed attackers. And unlike those Gen 3 Pokémon like Crawdaunt and Shiftry who got some ultra good buffs in later gens, decidueye never had anything.

    • @BreakTheIce222
      @BreakTheIce222 9 місяців тому +10

      @@KFG-gg41451 Decidueye is better because it has 2 immunities, so it can pivot into such moves easily and force switches or setup. This is better because they have the same weaknesses, same number of resists, but Meganium has no immunities. Decidueye is also better for the games it was in because it could trap wild pokes with its signature moving, making catching escape-prone pokes possible. It also has useful moves in U-Turn, Sucker Punch, & Roost (which isn't affected by weather).

    • @GreyLeo
      @GreyLeo 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@@KFG-gg41451 Meganium beats Decidueye 1v1 it just sits on it and isn't much that Decidueye can do

    • @CL361
      @CL361 7 місяців тому

      @@GreyLeo
      Um, In pretty sure SD Decidueye can kill Meganium pretty easly.

    • @CL361
      @CL361 7 місяців тому

      @@KFG-gg41451
      Decidueye actually is pretty solid in low-tiers.
      Meganium doesn't have even that. Meganium is so bad that this gen Smogon didn't even botter to make any strategy for it.

  • @delphinelavendermorgan4627
    @delphinelavendermorgan4627 10 місяців тому +24

    Meganium gave me a pleasant surprise when it didn’t came at last. I’m proud of my little dinosaur flower, in all honesty I thought it would not even be in the video for a second. Made my day already. I’m also proud of Mewscarada for getting as far as it got.

    • @ariesstorm9577
      @ariesstorm9577 10 місяців тому +4

      Honestly Feraligatr may be my favourite Johto starter but I had fun doing a run through with Meganium when I first got Heart Gold. You just got to pick your team to accommodate green Littlefoot. I’d probably go as far as to say it’s one of my favourite grass starters.

    • @IndiraDevi-tq2wq
      @IndiraDevi-tq2wq 9 місяців тому +3

      Dont believe his rankings to be perfect lol. Meganium is 30000% worse than decidyue.

    • @delphinelavendermorgan4627
      @delphinelavendermorgan4627 9 місяців тому +1

      @@IndiraDevi-tq2wq Happy to hear different opinions 😀

    • @ethancostellostudent1698
      @ethancostellostudent1698 9 місяців тому +3

      He took his opinion back in the water one🫢

    • @delphinelavendermorgan4627
      @delphinelavendermorgan4627 9 місяців тому

      @@ethancostellostudent1698 I know

  • @zamaskowany12
    @zamaskowany12 10 місяців тому +51

    Mega Sceptile should have it's attack swapped and get the contrary ability

  • @SlowForest
    @SlowForest 10 місяців тому +45

    Oof. Hisuian and Alolan Decidueye are two of my favorite pokemon of all time 💀

    • @somewhatstrangemogeko9494
      @somewhatstrangemogeko9494 10 місяців тому +3

      Same...

    • @0AZ07
      @0AZ07 10 місяців тому +3

      Same bro

    • @TheJaJe.
      @TheJaJe. 10 місяців тому

      They’re dog water bruh

    • @SlowForest
      @SlowForest 9 місяців тому +2

      @@TheJaJe. actually they're owl grass smh

    • @ZippiestRhyme21
      @ZippiestRhyme21 4 місяці тому

      Agreed and even though they're my favorite, I can't deny how bad they are. F's in chat for my boi Rowlet.

  • @naeshaunedwards7731
    @naeshaunedwards7731 10 місяців тому +24

    I need Sceptile to get a huge buff NOW, and I don’t mean just by having the tera gimmick, but things to help it without even needing that. Sceptile needs its stats reworked, a better movepool, better ability, and if it were up to me, I’d even give it the dragon typing so it can learn draco meteor 😭

    • @mardshima2070
      @mardshima2070 10 місяців тому +11

      Sceptile needs to have its Atk and S.Atk got swapped, and then have its hidden ability changed into Sharpness or Technician. Sceptile's S.Atk works on gen3 because all Grass, Dragon, and Dark moves are special. But as physical-special split happened now it has mismatched stats and movepool. It also makes Sceptile practically loses its signature move, Leaf Blade.

    • @TundraRage
      @TundraRage 9 місяців тому

      ​@mardshima2070 Unfortunately the reason why sceptile had been UUBL was because it could never break through steels to crunch being resisted then.

    • @rishabhanand7204
      @rishabhanand7204 5 місяців тому

      Bro sceptile is still fine. Other grass starters like meganium or serperior are the ones that need to be buffed xD Also I agree. Since Blaziken and swampert have a secondary typing, it feels weird that sceptile is pure grass. Though tbh Torchic is my favourite gen3 starter so... Idk I haven't played with sceptile much.

  • @spectrefriends3097
    @spectrefriends3097 9 місяців тому +8

    Meowscarada's speed, flower trick and ability is good

  • @rampage0092
    @rampage0092 10 місяців тому +32

    Gonna be real with you Mystic, that you didn’t put Meganium last is nothing short of cope.

  • @thehollow33
    @thehollow33 10 місяців тому +16

    Lets be real.. we all know Swampert will be number 1 for the water starters

    • @GeneralSecura
      @GeneralSecura 10 місяців тому +3

      Greninja, Hisuian Samurott and Quaquaval are solid contenders though.

    • @Alastordadeer
      @Alastordadeer 9 місяців тому

      @@GeneralSecuraash gren solos for sure

    • @dethtroy2185
      @dethtroy2185 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Alastordadeer maybe if battle bond wasn't nerfed...

    • @gioanysgonzalez3396
      @gioanysgonzalez3396 9 місяців тому

      I appreciate you respecting my boy but Swampert is not as good as it used to be and with Greninja and Hisuian Samurott pretty much be competitive staples, it’s kind of not even a contest who’s better. I can see it in the top 3 or 4 but other than that not really number one.

    • @Alastordadeer
      @Alastordadeer 9 місяців тому

      @@gioanysgonzalez3396 Yeah but quax is a menace too though, it’s basically a better krookodile with slightly more attack, a better typing in water cause even though ground is in my top 4 or 5 favourite typings. Water is the better type in quite a number of ways. And a water type flame charge in aqua step to help moxie sweeping. The top 5 is probably.
      1: Greninja
      2: H-samurott
      3: Quaxquavel
      4: Swampert (including mega, it only has 1 weakness in grass and with swift swim and bulk up, will beat pretty much any physical attacker one on one in rain.)
      5: Is between intelleon and blastoise (including mega.) Especially since blastoise gets shell smash and intelleon is the fastest starter polemon that isn’t grass type and has the highest special attack stat out of any base starter pokemon i believe.

  • @0AZ07
    @0AZ07 10 місяців тому +12

    Decidueye being my favourite pokemon 😢😅

    • @LordNovaPrime1
      @LordNovaPrime1 10 місяців тому +1

      Mine as well

    • @turboshazed7370
      @turboshazed7370 10 місяців тому +4

      Decidueye, Incineroar and Primarina are amazing starters. My favorite line of 3 honestly. Primarina being my favorite.

    • @TheRynator14
      @TheRynator14 7 місяців тому

      It's the 2nd worst in terms of battle, but Meganium should be bottom. This guy is just coping

  • @TheGrimiore
    @TheGrimiore 10 місяців тому +11

    Honestly I feel Bulbasaur is the best starter for gen 1, as first three gyms are easily handle by Bulbasaur,

  • @Kittynelson4
    @Kittynelson4 10 місяців тому +7

    Serpior-Meowskarada-Rillaboom my three favs in that order

  • @gioanysgonzalez3396
    @gioanysgonzalez3396 10 місяців тому +15

    I’m sorry but the Meganium part is a FREAKIN LIE! Yeah Decidueye and Sceptile aren’t that good but They at least have respectable placement in their competitive caree while Meganium was not only struggling in its PU tier but it was on the verge of untiered for 3 GENERATIONS in row! Other than that I agree with the rest of the list.

    • @turboshazed7370
      @turboshazed7370 10 місяців тому +6

      I kinda have to agree yeah... Tho I wish Meganium was good.

    • @rike971
      @rike971 10 місяців тому +2

      Also Meganium in Smogon tiers is outclassed by many Bulky Grass types like Roselia, Tangela, Ferroseed, Quiladin(thx Eviolite and other tools) or Vileplume

    • @Cyanidebeans
      @Cyanidebeans 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@rike971Heck, False Swipe Gaming even said Eviolite Bayleef may be better than Meganium

  • @nintendolife25
    @nintendolife25 10 місяців тому +16

    I’m still having a hard time in believing Meganium is better than Decidueye and Sceptile. XD

    • @AlphaOutlaw
      @AlphaOutlaw 10 місяців тому +10

      Which is fair since it simply isn't

    • @KnightRaymund
      @KnightRaymund 10 місяців тому +4

      because it's not, he's wrong

  • @alolanchampion
    @alolanchampion 9 місяців тому +3

    They should buff Meganium by changing her hidden ability to either Triage or Prankster. Giving her Priority to heal, or give priority to Prankster Aromatherapy

  • @gavinaaric
    @gavinaaric 10 місяців тому +5

    Sceptile Needs a rework so badly changing it Attack and special attack would fix it

  • @RayRay06122
    @RayRay06122 10 місяців тому +6

    Honestly, leaf storm and contrary, for Serperior was good enough for me.

  • @insaneadem5014
    @insaneadem5014 10 місяців тому +6

    I disagree with sceptiles placement. He was always a good mon on my team lol.

  • @bacd-nn2lg
    @bacd-nn2lg 10 місяців тому +3

    I knew that Meowscarada will have some really crazy fandom from the very beginning (it started from people posting kiss videos in picnic mode).🤣

  • @TOXICGAMING-2003
    @TOXICGAMING-2003 10 місяців тому +3

    In radical red sceptile has technician. With bullets seed. And dual chop

  • @kai_3788
    @kai_3788 10 місяців тому +2

    If you just swapped Decidueye’s special defense and speed stats you’d already be doing it a huge favor.

  • @marcus-2777
    @marcus-2777 10 місяців тому +3

    how doesn’t mega sceptile hit hard enough 💀💀💀

  • @oilerfan871
    @oilerfan871 10 місяців тому +6

    Meganium being mono grass and it's terrible move pool and stats should make it an automatic last place

  • @sarlife
    @sarlife 9 місяців тому +1

    Missed opportunity to type "what makes serperior superior".

  • @TheDragonstorm1993
    @TheDragonstorm1993 10 місяців тому +4

    9:45 it got the same results Charizard gotten

  • @SteamyNachos77
    @SteamyNachos77 10 місяців тому +6

    The meganium lobbying needs to stop. It’s objectively the worst starter to ever exist

  • @mellowmoonlight9771
    @mellowmoonlight9771 10 місяців тому +5

    The Johto lover strikes again with gaslighting himself that Meganium is not the worst starter in existence.

    • @MysticUmbreon
      @MysticUmbreon  9 місяців тому

    • @tdasmal3622
      @tdasmal3622 9 місяців тому

      @@MysticUmbreonI’m making a canonical team for each canonical main protagonist of the games and I was wondering for hgss (using that because I don’t have crystal) what’s the best movesets for Gold/Ethan’s Ambipom and Umbreon

  • @the-angel-of-light-gardevoir8
    @the-angel-of-light-gardevoir8 10 місяців тому +2

    Wow… Decidueye is slower than FREAKING *GARDEVOIR* WHO IS INFAMOUS FOR BEING TOO SLOW

  • @turboshazed7370
    @turboshazed7370 10 місяців тому +12

    My favorite ones are both Decidueyes, Rillaboom and Serperior.

  • @zephyrreels7464
    @zephyrreels7464 9 місяців тому +2

    Rare Mysticumbreon L. Ur telling me meganium is better than sceptile and Decidueye??? Cmon man

  • @jonahdengler3858
    @jonahdengler3858 10 місяців тому +1

    No wonder Rillaboom is my Grass-type buddy.

  • @insaneadem5014
    @insaneadem5014 10 місяців тому +16

    As much as i like meganiums design, it is not better than decidueye or sceptile. Chestnaught is the worse for me, followed by meganium. Both for the same reason that you'll usually get ko'ed before you can do anything with them. I don't consider the rest of the starters bad, but I would consider sceptile to be one of the best ones just because of his speed. There've been many times in battle spot battles where i needed a grass type to land a move on something, but couldn't because they're all so slow. But sceptile is actually fast, and he has a good movepool. He's mega could go for a different ability, but it's cool in doubles if you pair him with a mon that has discharge.

    • @laxusstrauss5945
      @laxusstrauss5945 10 місяців тому +1

      chesnaught always been 2 tiers above decydueye and was banned from the tier mega sceptile was

    • @aninass
      @aninass 10 місяців тому +2

      Chesnaught is better than Meganium and Sceptile and that's a fact. There's nothing you can do about it. And as much as it hurts me, the Decidueyes too.

    • @laxusstrauss5945
      @laxusstrauss5945 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@aninass thats what i am saying

    • @aninass
      @aninass 10 місяців тому +1

      @@laxusstrauss5945 Sorry, I replied to the original commenter.

    • @insaneadem5014
      @insaneadem5014 9 місяців тому

      @@aninass only reason I think it's worse is because it's slow and it has a 4x flying weakness and i feel like flying types are everywhere

  • @dailyclipsofpokemonunite
    @dailyclipsofpokemonunite 9 місяців тому +1

    nil its weird decidueye is last place cuz he actually won a grass starter tournament

  • @michaelsevilla3697
    @michaelsevilla3697 10 місяців тому +4

    mystic doesn't want to rank meganium as the worst starter as it should be because of nostalgia

  • @Meramon27
    @Meramon27 9 місяців тому +1

    I come back to watch MysticUmbreon after a long time and the first thing I hear is Meganium is better than Decidueye and Sceptile... What the hell?

  • @definitelyadragon1644
    @definitelyadragon1644 10 місяців тому +1

    Next up, top 10 underrated rock type Pokemon.

  • @Quetzal00358
    @Quetzal00358 10 місяців тому +15

    Can't wait to see my boi Meganium placed on the low spots :(

    • @TheDragonstorm1993
      @TheDragonstorm1993 10 місяців тому +7

      Good news it's still better than both Decidueyes

  • @hassanmahmoud6495
    @hassanmahmoud6495 10 місяців тому

    Love the analysis, scratches the tickle in my brain about some of these things

  • @N7Landry
    @N7Landry 10 місяців тому +2

    Who knows what buffs the starters are gonna have

    • @N7Landry
      @N7Landry 10 місяців тому

      @@tdog1445 truth

  • @PhirenFayt
    @PhirenFayt 9 місяців тому +1

    I love meganium, I'm a Megameganium supporter... it's not better than Sceptile or decideye unfortunately

  • @leo_king94
    @leo_king94 10 місяців тому

    The Kirby music hit hard. Really cool game

  • @SagaTheFunniest
    @SagaTheFunniest 10 місяців тому +5

    There is not a single Pokémon on this list surviving a mega sceptile special attack nor is he getting outsped

  • @muddyanteater
    @muddyanteater 10 місяців тому +6

    Rillaboom for the win! Love the whole evolutionary line

    • @andytaker3073
      @andytaker3073 10 місяців тому

      Combined with Obstagoon, and both forms of Toxtricity and you got yourself the band KISS in Pokemon form

  • @galaxyrend
    @galaxyrend 10 місяців тому +1

    11:44 power trick lol

  • @AngelOfKawaii87
    @AngelOfKawaii87 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm not so into grass type pokemon,they have to much weaknesses,I mostly choose Fire or water as a starter

  • @Kos4Evr
    @Kos4Evr 3 місяці тому

    I missed the fire starters and the stephen king and prodigy jokes?

  • @rockowlgamer631
    @rockowlgamer631 10 місяців тому

    Im glad to see Meganium not at the very bottom.

  • @hypernovagamingstation
    @hypernovagamingstation 9 місяців тому +1

    I like Meganium, but even I know it sucks badly! Desidueye has use in lower tiers and items like Choice Scarf and even Weeknees Polocy do help it. It's bulky enough to survive one super effective move that's not ice type, which, in that case, just run a Yache Berry set. Decidueue is versatile, and Meganium is not. It does the same things.

  • @ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions
    @ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions 10 місяців тому +2

    11:40 *Power Trick*

  • @jeremysteinmark2845
    @jeremysteinmark2845 9 місяців тому +1

    I’m sorry but Sceptile and decidueye are absolutely better then meganium and chesnaught

  • @johnnypollack3243
    @johnnypollack3243 10 місяців тому

    Keep up the awesome work and videos love the video

  • @supersumiel
    @supersumiel 10 місяців тому +2

    The second I saw meganium wasn’t the worst, I tuned out

  • @dantebrante3784
    @dantebrante3784 8 місяців тому +1

    Professionals literally use Sceptile

    • @andrewhawley5366
      @andrewhawley5366 2 місяці тому

      Fax

    • @andrewhawley5366
      @andrewhawley5366 2 місяці тому

      An example Is Moxie Boosted is easily a top 10 competitive player of all time and he used Sceptile several times with success

    • @andrewhawley5366
      @andrewhawley5366 2 місяці тому

      And Sceptile got a buff in the Hidden Treasure Of Area Zero: Part 2: The Indigo Disk DLC

  • @tobiasgund8048
    @tobiasgund8048 10 місяців тому +2

    The fact that Meganium was in ZU back on SM already should tell you that it BY FAR is the worst grass starter.

  • @cbggaming1463
    @cbggaming1463 9 місяців тому +2

    Meganium's kit is pretty bad. I think Sceptile, as mediocre as it is, would still be better, and decidueye is definitely better. The upper half is pretty spot on though. I liked that you mentioned the OP RillaSneasler combo, since that was quite strong for some time.

  • @kingsim9288
    @kingsim9288 10 місяців тому +1

    Are you gonna make a no restriction scarlet and violet team?

  • @jitgupta3543
    @jitgupta3543 9 місяців тому

    So this comment is about grass starters and ill talk about how good or bad all grass starters are in competitive
    Venusaur- pretty good
    Meganium-Trash
    Sceptile - Bad
    Torterra-it became good with shell smash
    Serperior- Very strong with contrary leaf storm
    Chestnaught- pretty mediocre
    Decidueye- Alright
    Rilaboom- Super strong
    Decidueye H - Alright
    Meowscarada- Very good

  • @shadowdragun
    @shadowdragun 9 місяців тому +1

    Im pleasantly surprised Meganium isnt llast!
    It's still super wrong, because while ive had good meganiums they were very few and far between compared to the amount of very good sceptiles and decidueyes ive had but still, surprised!

  • @TheDragonstorm1993
    @TheDragonstorm1993 10 місяців тому +15

    Both Decidueye being ranked the worst is a instant like

  • @emilyhopemeechem4183
    @emilyhopemeechem4183 9 місяців тому

    Grass starter idea:
    Mossy cyborg Japanese chin dog
    Grass/steel
    Other sci-fi theme starters are:
    Laser Red Panda
    Fire/psychic
    Astronaut Tardigrade
    Water/bug throughout whole evolution

  • @juneroughs
    @juneroughs 10 місяців тому +2

    Not gonna finish this... seeing the decidueyes at the lowest. 🤷‍♂️

  • @dethtroy2185
    @dethtroy2185 9 місяців тому +1

    shouldn't serperior be running terra fire? Cause without it, it gets walled by Steel types completely. it knows Dragon Pulse to deal with Dragon types, and even if it becomes a fire type, leaf storm still counters the three types that are super effective to solo fire.

    • @NellvinCervantes-gt4ot
      @NellvinCervantes-gt4ot 4 місяці тому

      Walled by heatran and sap sipper Azumarill so stellar type is best for it.

  • @crawdaddy2004
    @crawdaddy2004 10 місяців тому +1

    It’s gotta be Rillaboom, right? 0:02

  • @RobGradyVO
    @RobGradyVO 10 місяців тому

    Decidueye should have been speedy special attackers

  • @LordNovaPrime1
    @LordNovaPrime1 10 місяців тому +1

    How dare you sir! Decidueye is the best!....yeah i know he sucks. Hes still my favorite though

  • @Alastordadeer
    @Alastordadeer 9 місяців тому +1

    Sceptile is the most underrated starter of all time

  • @kaos2405
    @kaos2405 8 місяців тому

    Does Dragon Dance and Swords Dance play off each other for a bigger boost or is it one or the other? I have never heard those two moves used in the same sentence or seen them together so I am wondering if there is something there.

  • @axels3188
    @axels3188 9 місяців тому +1

    I agree with most by Swap Secptile and Megamium around.

  • @Epicplayz10101
    @Epicplayz10101 9 місяців тому

    Ok good venasuar isnt at the bottom thats all i need

  • @pitbullseatkids2682
    @pitbullseatkids2682 10 місяців тому

    I am way too happy that meganium wasnt bottom lol

  • @heyguysxd
    @heyguysxd 10 місяців тому

    There is a huge gap in power between the top four and the rest.

  • @blaze0750
    @blaze0750 10 місяців тому +1

    Meganium being better than Decidueye and mega Sceptile is the worst take Mystic has ever had

  • @thebilldozer7970
    @thebilldozer7970 9 місяців тому

    Squirtle Squad 🕶

  • @dionmcintosh9554
    @dionmcintosh9554 10 місяців тому

    G-max Lapras was fantastic for me

  • @vaporterra
    @vaporterra 10 місяців тому +3

    Idc what people think, Meganium not being at the bottom for once is an absolute win for us Chikorita fans

  • @trewmartens
    @trewmartens 9 місяців тому

    Meganium is my favorite pokemon. Chikorita is best starter

  • @Tyty_Poke_Channel
    @Tyty_Poke_Channel 10 місяців тому

    Bros cooking all the good meat.
    Edit: why did I say that I'm vegetarian 💀

  • @Joao.Ramiro
    @Joao.Ramiro 10 місяців тому +1

    Its literally impossible to Meganium and Torterra being ranked higher than Sceptile and Decidueye

    • @laxusstrauss5945
      @laxusstrauss5945 10 місяців тому +2

      torterra needed a single move to out do both in singles so it makes sense for it to be better
      Agree about meganium tho

  • @nickolasellinger3353
    @nickolasellinger3353 9 місяців тому

    Meganium better get Body Press in Gen 9

  • @Silverphantom4444
    @Silverphantom4444 Місяць тому

    Meganium not last? I already knew this list was gonna be ass

  • @jitgupta3543
    @jitgupta3543 9 місяців тому

    Venusaur would be better if had sludge wave which is stronger than sludge bomb

  • @jerms4389
    @jerms4389 10 місяців тому +2

    Maybe I have a different take since I only do playthroughs and don’t play competitive, but Meganium and Serperior not being the bottom 2 and rillaboom taking the top spot over venusaur and meowscarada just don’t feel right. And sceptile deserves to be in the top half, never done me wrong on a playthrough

  • @tobiasgund8048
    @tobiasgund8048 10 місяців тому +2

    Wait, sorry, Meganium is in no world better than Decidueye. Middling speed, wasted attack stats on doing mixed, good but not good enough bulk, terrible ability, no 2nd stab

    • @juniperjahir38
      @juniperjahir38 10 місяців тому

      The way I see it Decidueye and Meganium are basically the same and I honestly see Meganium>Decidueye just because Decidueye is more frail and slow and has suckerpunch weakness

    • @tobiasgund8048
      @tobiasgund8048 10 місяців тому

      @@juniperjahir38 Decidueye has legit use in lower tiers, Meganium has none whatsoever.

    • @juniperjahir38
      @juniperjahir38 10 місяців тому

      @@tobiasgund8048 Meganium hasn’t even been available for competitive since generation 7, the pokemon might gain a buff just like Empoleon and terastalizing will certainly help it

    • @tobiasgund8048
      @tobiasgund8048 10 місяців тому +2

      @@juniperjahir38 Okay, and how exactly is that supposed to be an argument? We CAN compare Decidueye and Meganium in gen 7, and saying that it might get buffs is ridiculous, like, okay, we can definitely say it will get Tera Blast and Tera in general, but there is a lot more wrong with Meganium than a lack of coverage.

  • @rusttoyoung1912
    @rusttoyoung1912 10 місяців тому

    Now place Meganium, if it were the grass/fairy type it should be!

    • @KFG-gg41451
      @KFG-gg41451 10 місяців тому +1

      Renegade platinum has that little fella as a fairy type. I love it!

    • @rike971
      @rike971 10 місяців тому +2

      And even then, Meganium would need more than Fairy type to be good. Like an actual movepool (Give Meganium Calm Mind, Earth Power and Sleep Powder, Game Freak, what are you waiting for), a Good hidden ability (Regenerator for example would be nice), a better statspread.

  • @PokéJolt50
    @PokéJolt50 10 місяців тому +2

    I'm sorry, but there's NO WAY Meganium is better than Sceptile and the Decidueyes. If this were Radical Red or Inclement Emerald, then I can see an argument there. As is, though, Sceptile and both Decidueyes still have more to offer than Meganium does.
    Oh, and I also feel Meowscarada is better than Rillaboom. Sure, it's got priority with Grassy Glide on terrain, but take that away, and Rillaboom is kind of mid. Meowscarada has Protean and the ability to be flexible with what set you wanna run on it. Put it simply, Meowscarada can run many sets while Rillaboom can only really run one, making it incredibly precictable.

    • @spyroclone152
      @spyroclone152 9 місяців тому

      While I'd love to agree with you about Meowscarada being the best, the fact that the monke does have those two broken gimmicks will always make it remain relevant. It's the no brain, no skill, green button that can kill things. Having any form of powerful, no consequence priority will always have a place in singles and doubles. Not to mention terrain wars being the most potent battlefield tactic in modern pokémon competitive play. And while Rillaboom is predictable, you can't really do anything about it if it catches you with your pants down. It's like how it's predictable that a asteroid is about to hit you, but you can't really do much when your destruction is all but assured. Much like contrary superior, while the base pokémon is incredibly lackluster, that one broken crutch of a gimmick can sky rocket any pokémon to ridiculous status. It happened to Greninja with Battle Bond, it happened to Serperior, and its the unfortunate case here with Rillaboom. Meowscarada will always be number 1 in my heart, but unless they nerf the surge abilities and just delete grassy glide altogether, the gorilla will button mash to victory for the rest of our days unfortunately.

    • @PokéJolt50
      @PokéJolt50 9 місяців тому +1

      @@spyroclone152 Oh, well. Meowscarada is #1 in my heart, too.

  • @Akatsukileader9
    @Akatsukileader9 10 місяців тому

    Here come the Sceptile stans

  • @thetrainerknownasx
    @thetrainerknownasx 10 місяців тому

    Common monkey W

  • @kemuelMiller
    @kemuelMiller 10 місяців тому

    This I don’t think this guy thought this list through before making this video 😂

  • @iso2885
    @iso2885 10 місяців тому

    No numbering system anymore

  • @mikeburnette2190
    @mikeburnette2190 10 місяців тому +2

    I used Venusaur in GenII, and I gave it Leftovers as its held item. Its moves were Giga Drain Growth, Synthesis, and SolarBeam.
    I am also going to say it now, when we get new mechanics in the next games, Venusaur, Charizard, and Blastoise will have them.
    Mystic, I'm still going out there and calling Charizard Z for the gen VI remakes.

  • @gamingphysics2088
    @gamingphysics2088 9 місяців тому

    Its really not that bad if you know what your doing with it I love Meganium

  • @Lunakinesis
    @Lunakinesis 10 місяців тому +1

    Yeah nah, there's no universe where Meganium is better than Decidueye and Sceptile

  • @laxusstrauss5945
    @laxusstrauss5945 10 місяців тому +1

    Just sawp the decydueyes and meganium
    venusaur and serperior are above meowscarada
    And its perfect
    unlike meow venu was even considered too broken for double + being a real threat in both OU/UU
    And tera might get serperior banned this Gen

  • @SagaTheFunniest
    @SagaTheFunniest 10 місяців тому +1

    No way serperior is top 5 when it gets no good setup moves along with bad attack stats for utilizing any of its learnable moves

    • @bleh491
      @bleh491 10 місяців тому +4

      Contrary with leaf storm is one of the most terrifying sets you could ever some across.

    • @tobiasgund8048
      @tobiasgund8048 10 місяців тому +3

      It gets coil, leech seed, glare.....
      Well, and of course a 130 BP move that also acts like Nasty Plot at the same time....

    • @armandomedina2778
      @armandomedina2778 10 місяців тому +2

      Serperior cannot be any lower than UU ever because of Contrary Leafstorm

  • @officialjaved
    @officialjaved 10 місяців тому

    What is OU?

    • @TlocRevelc
      @TlocRevelc 10 місяців тому +1

      Over used meaning it's basically meta and right above it is ubers which is banned Pokemon because they're too broken

  • @dynamitesquid4279
    @dynamitesquid4279 9 місяців тому

    What about hisuian Decidueye?

  • @mathanon217
    @mathanon217 10 місяців тому +1

    Feels unfair to count forms and unique mechanics that just dont exist for most generations which just tilts things in favor of those gens starters

  • @tarotnera4516
    @tarotnera4516 10 місяців тому

    That is this like a cat. It do what it wants.

  • @Underscore_The
    @Underscore_The 10 місяців тому

    Serperior is the best out of all of these period.