Control over your dog, you think would be a common sense issue but, there's always those few that think the rules don't apply to them! Thank you Sean! 🌼
Have to confess I did once almost offend in this way. I had a rescue border terrier - abandoned by a former owner for 'worrying sheep.' So I was concerned when, exercising her off the lead (with permission) in a supposedly empty local farmer's field, a couple of sheep wandered up. Oh dear - come here, girl, please please please. Turned out she wasn't all that much interested - though it became possible the sheep and she might mutually lick each other to death. Came back at my bidding with no problem. I found out much later, from a friend of the original owner, that she'd never worried sheep in her life. That greedy owner had dumped her after trying to use her for breeding far too early in her life. Predictably, she'd never again let a male dog near her. Other than that, she was a joy. 40 years now since she passed - and I'm still tearing up...
I think what’s important to note is Sean saying that training your dog doesn’t require one to be mean to an animal. I like that. My neighbor trained his dog with fear and it hurt me so much when he would smack his dog around for making a mistake. Sean is such an incredible inspiration.
I think the term itself really hits the nail on the head: livestock *worrying.* Your dog may be having fun, but the livestock aren't, and neither is the farmer who gets worried, too.
I’m familiar to the right to roam in Sweden, but had no idea Scotland has it as well. After growing up on a small family farm I’m sadly familiar with loose packs of dogs getting to our chickens or turkeys. We had basically everything BUT sheep and goats. We had cattle, horses, ponies, a wild burro, chickens, pigs, turkeys, geese and ducks that were just pets, My mother had to “dispose” of a dog that was part of a pack that came from over the mountain in our area. Sadly she also had to put down our pet turkey, Tom, who was kind of a celebrity in our area because he would take my brother and I to and from the bus stop. After the incident my grandfather took the outdated license off the dog and found the owner, who had to pay fines and money towards the loss of the livestock. Good boy, Echo! All of them are wonderful ambassadors of the breed. Echo being my favorite because he’s identical to my Toby in build and markings.
We have a neighbor who lets his dogs run. Our other neighbor couldn't put his cattle in our pasture or one of his pastures because the loose dogs were worrying the cows and driving them into a corner. The dog owner was politely confronted and rudely told the dairyman off. We have loose dog rules where we live, but complaining formally can create problems.
That’s great information! The ‘Right-to-Roam’ rules is something different that it nice to know. I’m from the States, and have never travelled to Scotland, nor the UK, so I don’t know those things. As a watercolor artist, it would be pretty cool to visit a lovely Scottish countryside and paint it. I’d still be cautious of livestock. Where I live, there are Bull/Cow livestock farms - and one of the signs on the fence say, “The Bull can cross the field in 4 seconds. Do not enter, unless you can cross the field in 3.9 seconds.”
For your dog's safety, you should always have them on a lead. I learned my lesson. I live in a rural area and my dogs were well trained to come and heal. One of my dogs started sporadically ignoring my commands when we were walking. It took a little time to realize she was actually going deaf and was not hearing my commands. Fortunately nothing adverse happened but since realizing this, my dogs have always been on leads when we walked. It's safer for them and for the surrounding wildlife.
Our GSD was trained in sign language we mainly spoke commands as he's getting older 14yrs the signing is coming quite useful. He watches us more he's training us!
A full vid on the right to roam in Scotland would be brilliant. I may live in England, but I do get up to Scotland every other year, and will be getting a dog soon hopefully. Not that I'd ever let a dog off lead on farm land or anywhere not set aside as a dog exercise area.
I kept my lovely Yellow Lab on a lead when walking. We entered a field of sheep. They were lined up in a row along the path some way ahead. As we got closer Mazzie decided she didn't like the look of them and so turned around and started walking in the other direction. They followed. She sped up to get away. They sped up. She broke into a run. The sheep were 'baaing' and running (probably at the novelty of being 'in charge' for once). Mazzie could go a hell of a lot faster than me with her four-paw drive. I was hanging on for dear life! I eventually had to let go as I was about to end up face down in the mud. She made it back to the gate with me huffing and puffing behind her. Bless her heart. So I avoided sheep fields to save my lovely dog the trauma. 😂
@@KathrynHaugan Yes indeed. I one-hundred percent endorse Sean's video (I am a sheep farmer's daughter) but I was also laughing so much as I was being dragged along by Mazzie. I couldn't believe her reaction. 'Mazzie, it's fine, they won't hurt you.' She was having none of it! So I guess the irony is, I wasn't in control of my dog!
That is a hilarious story!! Thanks for sharing!! (And I don’t blame Mazzi! That would have been unnerving!) Do you think the sheep thought she was there to take them somewhere else?
Oh my goodness that’s a great story! What a funny turn of events. The sheep must’ve thought they were really tough that day. I bet they were really chuffed after they ‘drove’ you and Mazzie off.
Excellent video, Sean. There have been too many incidents where loose dogs have not just worried, but actually torn apart livestock. Dogs who are normally well behaved WILL go after livestock. Dogs that aren't well trained are an absolute menace. Never assume your dog won't!
I'm expecting it to get worse thanks to all the puppies people got during lockdown. Even if they're trained there was certain types of training they didn't get the chance to do young. Stuff like socialisation and obedience in larger spaces.
I would always advise anyone out walking across private farm land to keep their dogs on leash near livestock as even well trained dogs can have bad days and misbehave.
I really hope dog owners will pay attention, and do what is safe for animals and people alike. I always appreciate your videos, whether they are of your beautiful dogs running, playing, or working, or of you teaching safety. Well done.
Thank-you Sean for the clear & concise video on a very important topic. While it seems that common sense could guide one while out & about it is also clearly conveyed that laws & thus responsibilities vary within countries & areas. Always a treat to see your interactions with nature at large, your local farmland inhabitants as well as your beloved sheepdog. What a good boy! What an important reminder the danger of assumptions, especially regarding the predictability of dogs while out & about. Very interesting & important topic. Thanks again for all you & your dogs share. With respect, Lynn C in the Pacific Northwest of Washington state in the USA
As someone who walks a bit I come across a lot of people who have no control over their dogs. Then there's the classic - when the dog does something wrong, they start giving it loads of loving attention at the same time saying not to do whatever it was. (I'm not saying they should be aggressive with the dog - just that what they're doing is not going to change the animal's behaviour.)
Exactly. Reinforcing bad behaviour with love and cuddles does exactly the opposite, obviously. The thing is, even a kid knows it is wrong to praise bad behaviour.
Anyone with a dog should have them under control at all times. The distress a dog causes to livestock and wildlife is appalling. Thank you for this video. I would appreciate a video on the right to roam in Scotland. Thank you
Thank you Sean. This lesson that you are teaching is one of the hardest things to get pet owners to comprehend and practice daily. You have spoken well. 🤗❤️🌈🙏🕊️
We have the same issue with city people coming up to ranch lands since our lands frequently border national park lands. We have had not only livestock killed, maimed or harassed, but we have had children attacked and killed too. People bring their unwanted dogs and cats our here and just throw them out into the wilderness. Of course we have significantly more dangerous wildlife which generally and sadly take care of those unwanted pets, but they also pack and become dangerous.
Sorry this is happening , Camy on the sheep game channel has adressed this several times in the past year . The other problem is gates getting left open by walkers . Ive seen people not relising the countrys full of domestic and wild animals . In the states alot of ranchers have cloed off there property do to problems like this . They have wolves and cryotes.to deal with .dont need two legged problems . People need to train dogs . And you show them thankyou .
A great video, Sean! I admire your confidence in giving Echo his commands. He listens so well, checking over his shoulder to make sure he is doing what you want. And all the doggo kisses! He' s an inquisitive, and even-tempered, and smart! dog. I would be interested in more info on the right to roam. What a lovely contrast to the States.
Thank you Sean for this very insightful video. Laws are made to protect both the landowner and those using the Right to roam privilege. Respecting the law, respecting others and respecting nature is always a win/win/win situation.
Wow, I've never heard of the Right to Roam before, so this was very informative. Contrasting that with the landowner's right to shoot a dog is really sobering. The demonstration of Echo's obedience brings home the point... Even when control is impeccable, "the lead is guaranteed"!! Your talks are always so interesting, Sean. Thanks!
Thank you for the clear demonstration of your well trained dog, Echo int the lawful way to access private land and around people and animals. We have many different leash laws and even controlling your dogs' waste. But there's always some who don't adhere and also a vast amount of wild and abandoned pets both in cities and rural areas, also coyotes and some areas that have wolves. In our areas in the US, the worst problem is abandoned dogs. Often starving, hurt, and dangerous to people and pets as well as livestock. The pet rescues and animal control departments are overwhelmed. We would really appreciate more information about your laws in Scotland, as well as perhaps do you have much problem with abandoned dogs. How do you handle loose uncontrolled dogs, do you try to chase them off or catch or shoot them, and have you or your neighboring farms had to prosecute any roamers to protect your sheep or livestock and family. And what kind of land nesting birds do you have in your area? Whe have quail, pheasants, some wild ducks and geese, that may be hunted in season for food and sport within reason, but our private lands are protected by law against trespassing. It would be interesting to hear more of this and other issues you deal with. Thank you Sean and Stacy and "crew"! Love your channel!
Thanks especially for the timely reminder on behalf of wildlife as we're heading into nesting and birthing season soon. And, YES, I'd love to hear more details on Right to Roam, thanks!! Great video, thank you again ❤
What a beautiful place you live in....WOuld of given my eye teeth to have lived there,,,,Your dogs are beautiful and well trained....Remember when you wake how lucky you are to live in your world....
Sean you are a Fantastic Master at training your Dogs Discipline /Commands along with Love and Affection Beautiful Border Dogs born to have a Man/Woman by their side. 🐕 🐕
A few years ago, I was finally - in desperation - moved to report a neighbour to both local council and RSPCA. A monied guy, he'd bought one Pyreneese (huge dogs) after another, left them in a cage in his garden, then had them destroyed when they didn't emerge somehow magically fully trained! They weren't pets - they were fashion accessories. In the very last case (his 3rd dog I think) I actually trespassed his back garden - following my own wee border terrier who had been worrying me all day about ... something. That family were abroad for a week - the dog left in a cage with several trays of water and food - as though the dog was expected to ration itself. They returned to find the dog removed to a shelter, and a court warrant awaiting them. After being fined and sentenced to keep no more pets, they even had the affrontery to ask me and another concerned neighbour why we couldn't simply mind our own bloody business!
We have those types of paths where I live. Anyway I can't tell you how many fights I have seen the owners break into over the out of control dogs on the path. We have a leash law. But there are have those that don't think the rules apply to them.
Here where I live in the US, we actually have Leash Laws, and if you are off your own property, your dog, by law, has to be on a leash. There are exceptions for hunting dogs, but you cannot hunt on any public properties (like federal and state parks), so that's not really a problem. You can also have your dogs off leash if you're visiting someone and have their permission to do so. 🐾
I've very good control over my dogs(a border collie and an australian kelpie). They don't run after wildlife, etc(except when they were very young, and then never for long). Just in case I still keep them leashed in situations where we pass close to livestock, or in situations where I feel that I can't be watchful enough. It's just sad that so many dog owners aren't responsible.
And cause you train N work your dogs they think what you doing is a big game... They think it's fun N happy and preventing possible trouble... Different country different rules. Thanks Sean. Heads up to Ridgeland gear... Quality hard wearing...
my male smooth coat border collie has similar commands. for "lie down" I just say "down." I don't have a sit command, he doesn't need one b/c when I say "down" he's completely deactivated "go in" is for him to go through a fence or through some other obstacle for heel I say "walk with me" and he'll walk by my side for letting go, or for him to stop what he's doing I say "leave it" and he'll stop whatever he's doing they're the best breed. the world's smartest dog
See for example Gold Shaw Farm’s video about his “war” against hunters who absolutely refuse to leash their dogs on his property. Americans are extremely belligerent about their “rights” to do what they want, everyone else be damned. I hope the UK and Scotland keep your wonderful respectful culture!
@@sarahlongstaff5101 The thing is people in the US don't have the right to have their animals off leash on other people's private property. GSF does have the right to defend his livestock and property.
And yet he's taking tons of abuse and stalking from the hunters. It's the aggression and combative nature that really turns me off of so many of my fellow citizens. That kind of aggression just wouldn't be tolerated in most other cultures.@@pendlera2959
It used to be that way in the US. If you were respectful to the land, you could roam leaving no trace. But it changed in the 1990’s as people began suing everyone (a walker gets hurt and sues you) and damaging property.
What a shame! I have seen more British people complaining about people doing that there, too, sadly. "Take nothing but photos, leave nothing but footsteps" really isn't too hard a concept to instill in one's kids so they grow up as respectful adults.@@aj1654
In my opinion, in the UK there is an expectation that if you own a dog you will let it off-lead. I’m not a dog owner but have been a sometime dog-walker for several friend’s dogs. Only one of these (a very dog-reactive Rotti) was kept on-leash at all times. One of the other dogs in particular (a zoomy cocker spaniel) was used to running off lead during long hikes & dashing about in the bushes like a typical cocker - but I found it too stressful to walk him as he would go a long way from me and although his recall was good, it came with caveats (he would always come back immediately …IF he wasn’t chasing a squirrel or a bird, IF he hadn’t found something good to eat etc). If I was to own a dog I think I would have a greyhound that I could allow to have zoomies in an enclosed field but would then happily walk alongside me on-lead. I know much of my friend’s joy in their dogs is watching them run & playing ball with them, which would be sad to take away if they were always on-lead. I know they practise recall, but you can’t practise for every possible scenario so there will always be a slight question. Despite letting their dogs off I do believe they are responsible dog owners - they don’t walk near fields with livestock & if they did the dogs would be on-lead. Still I do think off-lead dogs can cause many issues (including when walking a dog-reactive dog!)
A recent case in Scotland, I think, a dog worried some sheep, the owner got him back and leashed. The Farmer walked up and shot the leashed dog. The Farmer’s action was upheld by the courts.
Please link to this / tell us, exactly, what specific google search to do to get proof. While there are always bad 'uns, I find it almost impossible to believe a farmer would have done this, thus I'm erring on the fake news side.
My daughter keeps her dog on a long training lead (it is quite thick and about 12-20 ft long when in fields with livestock, this allows the dog to sniff the ground but when the dog is on a short lead the dog has to walk to heel and not sniff the ground. As many people have said, you cannot ever know 100% what your dog will do. The dog gets off the lead in livestock free fields. The dog is a happy dog.
People can just walk on your property?!?!?! That's crazy. We have very strict property rights here in the US, and depending on the state, you can be jailed for walking on someone else's property, although thats very rare. Unless you have No Trespassing signs posted everywhere, its hard to prosecute trespass because someone might not have known they were on private property. If its proven that you saw the signs or where told by the owne to get off their land, its a wrap. You'll get a charge.
It's far from crazy. Of-course you shouldn't be walking in peoples gardens, fields during the growing season, or such. But that people have the right to go out hiking in nature and enjoy it is great.
Hello Sean I started watching you channel a month ago. You do a great job showing the results of the training of the dogs. Could you do a series of videos that give a detailed explanation of your training methods?
My dog's really good with other animals, except non-neutered male dogs. We live in the country, so the only thing I have to worry about is strange dogs coming into our yard, which happens. He also doesn't like men who look like his original owner, who was a drug dealer & dog fighter. He's a pit bull & a good boy, but I still watch him when he's outside of our house. ✌✌
This is so interesting! Wouldn't it be nice if, in the US, the government officials who decided to reintroduce wolf packs too close to ranches would be fined thousands of dollars (out of their own pockets) for "worrying" the ranchers' livestock?! 😂
Your back, Sean ! So the right to roam is very unique. Very interesting topic today that would be a challenge for sure. What is the cause of this, do you think ?
i've had so many dogs run at me recently...it feels like people aren't training them properly anymore...some dog walkers i observe just have no control over their dog at all...and why take your dog for a walk if you're gonna spend the whole time looking at your smart phone?!?!??? there's a lot of zombies out there dude...people just don't think anymore...take care :)
Hi Shawn. I just love your videos on UA-cam. My wife and I just recued a 1/2 Border Collie 1/2 Sheltie who is 7 months old. We do not in any way want to make him a herder as we are in the Suburban part of the USA. However, we do want him to be able to follow the commands that you stated in your video. He is always on lead as he is very, very motion sensitive. This habit has been very hard to break. We repeat with him daily the commands on all walks. Do you believe it is just a mater of time before he learns the commands. If so how long has it taken you from their first train day on average for your dogs to learn the commands? We just want him to be safe on the lead.
I think it's common sense but I think the landowners have a duty of care to help make the land rambler friendly. It's a two way street. In the UK some land owners go out of their way to make footpaths and bridleways unusable, or unwelcoming. Dog owners should keep the dog on a leash if they are not especially well trained and you know they will recall on demand
In the USA when walking dogs they have to bag up their doggie doo and take it home. Honest. In France the men so elegantly stand in front of the doggie doo when walking, so the ladies don't step in it. It's difficult to keep a straight face at times like that. Butt in France there were streets littered with....
How do you know you are not trampling delicate seedlings, or recent planting among pasture grasses? There is no similar law in Michigan USA, except riparian rights to walk along Great Lakes.
Nice video! I do have a question. What would happen if you came upon someone’s Livestock Guardian Dog? Would a dog be in danger on or off leash? Thanks!
As a collie owner , i def keep him on a lead near sheep etc Because i would never get him home He would be dropping his cv through farmers door 1 good boy eager to learn 😂
In the USA that could be trespassing. I've never heard of any right to go on other people's land. Unless it was right at the edge of the water. Beachcombing at the waters edge. We have trails and public parks for walking. But our lands are private if we own them. Sure it would be curious to compare. In US you can't really shoot someone's dog . But I'm no expert. If you were walking your dogs and another dog attacked, how can you know what is legal to do? So could be interesting. If someone's dog gets caught, who gets the puppies? Lotsa funny topics you could cover. I have still never seen you show one Cat.
I would think you need to be careful walking through a property, especially if you know nothing about it. Safer for you and the livestock. Wouldn’t want to walk into a grazing area with potential aggressive bulls or something. I’d keep my dog on a leash. Unfortunately with years of training she is a lunatic sometimes. I also hate to say, she is a border collie.
So, i grew up in the country over 1/2 century ago...if a dog got onto the property and killed or maimed our animals...you had a right to dispatch that animal. If you knew the person that owned the animal you could take them a new dog later...animals have to be controlled when not at home...
Here, in NL i can't walk my dog without a leach. I certainly can't let/send my dog to a sheep herd. Yet. 1 of them was lying on its back, walking past a 2 ha piece of land, full of sheep, with late Tarzan i diagnosed this. "Will i help?, will i send Tarzan? Would i be punished?". Thoughts flashing through my mind. It would die within 1 houer if no action.... Maybe it was there already fore 45 minutes on its back..... What do i do to save this 1, sheep, life? So i sent Tarzan. I got cursed at by a suddenly appearing farmer, threatning to call police on me. Did i do wrong?
Did you ever think you'd get this many views and followers?? Your content is so unique and gives us an insight into a lifestyle and country most of us could only wonder about. Well done, and thanks so much!!!❤❤❤
I appreciate your emphasis on it’s just easier to leash your dog. There comes a point where you have to transition from training in your yard to actually training around livestock. And I don’t think people realize how much work, how many hours it takes to get dogs to work at the level Echo performs.
Control over your dog, you think would be a common sense issue but, there's always those few that think the rules don't apply to them! Thank you Sean! 🌼
Have to confess I did once almost offend in this way. I had a rescue border terrier - abandoned by a former owner for 'worrying sheep.'
So I was concerned when, exercising her off the lead (with permission) in a supposedly empty local farmer's field, a couple of sheep wandered up. Oh dear - come here, girl, please please please.
Turned out she wasn't all that much interested - though it became possible the sheep and she might mutually lick each other to death. Came back at my bidding with no problem.
I found out much later, from a friend of the original owner, that she'd never worried sheep in her life. That greedy owner had dumped her after trying to use her for breeding far too early in her life. Predictably, she'd never again let a male dog near her. Other than that, she was a joy.
40 years now since she passed - and I'm still tearing up...
I think what’s important to note is Sean saying that training your dog doesn’t require one to be mean to an animal. I like that. My neighbor trained his dog with fear and it hurt me so much when he would smack his dog around for making a mistake. Sean is such an incredible inspiration.
I think the term itself really hits the nail on the head: livestock *worrying.* Your dog may be having fun, but the livestock aren't, and neither is the farmer who gets worried, too.
I’m familiar to the right to roam in Sweden, but had no idea Scotland has it as well.
After growing up on a small family farm I’m sadly familiar with loose packs of dogs getting to our chickens or turkeys. We had basically everything BUT sheep and goats. We had cattle, horses, ponies, a wild burro, chickens, pigs, turkeys, geese and ducks that were just pets,
My mother had to “dispose” of a dog that was part of a pack that came from over the mountain in our area. Sadly she also had to put down our pet turkey, Tom, who was kind of a celebrity in our area because he would take my brother and I to and from the bus stop.
After the incident my grandfather took the outdated license off the dog and found the owner, who had to pay fines and money towards the loss of the livestock.
Good boy, Echo! All of them are wonderful ambassadors of the breed. Echo being my favorite because he’s identical to my Toby in build and markings.
We have a neighbor who lets his dogs run. Our other neighbor couldn't put his cattle in our pasture or one of his pastures because the loose dogs were worrying the cows and driving them into a corner. The dog owner was politely confronted and rudely told the dairyman off. We have loose dog rules where we live, but complaining formally can create problems.
That’s great information! The ‘Right-to-Roam’ rules is something different that it nice to know. I’m from the States, and have never travelled to Scotland, nor the UK, so I don’t know those things. As a watercolor artist, it would be pretty cool to visit a lovely Scottish countryside and paint it. I’d still be cautious of livestock. Where I live, there are Bull/Cow livestock farms - and one of the signs on the fence say, “The Bull can cross the field in 4 seconds. Do not enter, unless you can cross the field in 3.9 seconds.”
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For your dog's safety, you should always have them on a lead. I learned my lesson. I live in a rural area and my dogs were well trained to come and heal. One of my dogs started sporadically ignoring my commands when we were walking. It took a little time to realize she was actually going deaf and was not hearing my commands. Fortunately nothing adverse happened but since realizing this, my dogs have always been on leads when we walked. It's safer for them and for the surrounding wildlife.
Our GSD was trained in sign language we mainly spoke commands as he's getting older 14yrs the signing is coming quite useful. He watches us more he's training us!
*heel* unless your dog was a doctor!
A full vid on the right to roam in Scotland would be brilliant. I may live in England, but I do get up to Scotland every other year, and will be getting a dog soon hopefully. Not that I'd ever let a dog off lead on farm land or anywhere not set aside as a dog exercise area.
I kept my lovely Yellow Lab on a lead when walking. We entered a field of sheep. They were lined up in a row along the path some way ahead. As we got closer Mazzie decided she didn't like the look of them and so turned around and started walking in the other direction. They followed. She sped up to get away. They sped up. She broke into a run. The sheep were 'baaing' and running (probably at the novelty of being 'in charge' for once).
Mazzie could go a hell of a lot faster than me with her four-paw drive. I was hanging on for dear life! I eventually had to let go as I was about to end up face down in the mud. She made it back to the gate with me huffing and puffing behind her. Bless her heart.
So I avoided sheep fields to save my lovely dog the trauma. 😂
Once in a while, I guess, it works both ways! Glad no one, sheep, dog or human, got hurt. Good lesson for all.
@@KathrynHaugan Yes indeed. I one-hundred percent endorse Sean's video (I am a sheep farmer's daughter) but I was also laughing so much as I was being dragged along by Mazzie. I couldn't believe her reaction. 'Mazzie, it's fine, they won't hurt you.' She was having none of it!
So I guess the irony is, I wasn't in control of my dog!
That is a hilarious story!! Thanks for sharing!! (And I don’t blame Mazzi! That would have been unnerving!) Do you think the sheep thought she was there to take them somewhere else?
@@julieobrien4056 Thank you. I had never thought of that!😄
Oh my goodness that’s a great story! What a funny turn of events. The sheep
must’ve thought they were really tough that day. I bet they were really chuffed after they ‘drove’ you and Mazzie off.
Excellent video, Sean. There have been too many incidents where loose dogs have not just worried, but actually torn apart livestock. Dogs who are normally well behaved WILL go after livestock. Dogs that aren't well trained are an absolute menace. Never assume your dog won't!
I'm expecting it to get worse thanks to all the puppies people got during lockdown. Even if they're trained there was certain types of training they didn't get the chance to do young. Stuff like socialisation and obedience in larger spaces.
I would always advise anyone out walking across private farm land to keep their dogs on leash near livestock as even well trained dogs can have bad days and misbehave.
I really hope dog owners will pay attention, and do what is safe for animals and people alike. I always appreciate your videos, whether they are of your beautiful dogs running, playing, or working, or of you teaching safety. Well done.
Thank-you Sean for the clear & concise video on a very important topic. While it seems that common sense could guide one while out & about it is also clearly conveyed that laws & thus responsibilities vary within countries & areas. Always a treat to see your interactions with nature at large, your local farmland inhabitants as well as your beloved sheepdog. What a good boy!
What an important reminder the danger of assumptions, especially regarding the predictability of dogs while out & about. Very interesting & important topic. Thanks again for all you & your dogs share. With respect, Lynn C in the Pacific Northwest of Washington state in the USA
Excellent video! The info about public access to private land and the right to roam was especially interesting. Much different than here in the U.S!
As someone who walks a bit I come across a lot of people who have no control over their dogs. Then there's the classic - when the dog does something wrong, they start giving it loads of loving attention at the same time saying not to do whatever it was. (I'm not saying they should be aggressive with the dog - just that what they're doing is not going to change the animal's behaviour.)
Exactly. Reinforcing bad behaviour with love and cuddles does exactly the opposite, obviously. The thing is, even a kid knows it is wrong to praise bad behaviour.
Also, Echo is the best doggo ever! So beautifully trained, so attuned to your every gesture and voice command, and so happy to move the sheep!
What a good boy Echo is. You have done such a good job with him. I look forward to all your episodes.
Anyone with a dog should have them under control at all times. The distress a dog causes to livestock and wildlife is appalling. Thank you for this video. I would appreciate a video on the right to roam in Scotland. Thank you
Thank you Sean. This lesson that you are teaching is one of the hardest things to get pet owners to comprehend and practice daily. You have spoken well. 🤗❤️🌈🙏🕊️
We have the same issue with city people coming up to ranch lands since our lands frequently border national park lands. We have had not only livestock killed, maimed or harassed, but we have had children attacked and killed too. People bring their unwanted dogs and cats our here and just throw them out into the wilderness. Of course we have significantly more dangerous wildlife which generally and sadly take care of those unwanted pets, but they also pack and become dangerous.
Sorry this is happening , Camy on the sheep game channel has adressed this several times in the past year .
The other problem is gates getting left open by walkers .
Ive seen people not relising the countrys full of domestic and wild animals .
In the states alot of ranchers have cloed off there property do to problems like this . They have wolves and cryotes.to deal with .dont need two legged problems .
People need to train dogs . And you show them thankyou .
What an interesting video. Thank you, I totally agree to what you’re saying.
Fascinating information and different from the USA. We need to adopt some of these rules/laws.
No we don’t. Just more government trying to control us.
A great video, Sean! I admire your confidence in giving Echo his commands. He listens so well, checking over his shoulder to make sure he is doing what you want. And all the doggo kisses! He' s an inquisitive, and even-tempered, and smart! dog.
I would be interested in more info on the right to roam. What a lovely contrast to the States.
Thank you Sean for this very insightful video. Laws are made to protect both the landowner and those using the Right to roam privilege. Respecting the law, respecting others and respecting nature is always a win/win/win situation.
Thank you we need responsible dog owners 👍
Wow, I've never heard of the Right to Roam before, so this was very informative. Contrasting that with the landowner's right to shoot a dog is really sobering. The demonstration of Echo's obedience brings home the point... Even when control is impeccable, "the lead is guaranteed"!! Your talks are always so interesting, Sean. Thanks!
Gracias Sean por mostrar y hablar de tus hermosos perros, tu granja y ovejas.
Muy instruido. 👏👏
Lovely and smart bordervollisar, best dogs in the world
Thank you for the clear demonstration of your well trained dog, Echo int the lawful way to access private land and around people and animals. We have many different leash laws and even controlling your dogs' waste. But there's always some who don't adhere and also a vast amount of wild and abandoned pets both in cities and rural areas, also coyotes and some areas that have wolves. In our areas in the US, the worst problem is abandoned dogs. Often starving, hurt, and dangerous to people and pets as well as livestock. The pet rescues and animal control departments are overwhelmed. We would really appreciate more information about your laws in Scotland, as well as perhaps do you have much problem with abandoned dogs. How do you handle loose uncontrolled dogs, do you try to chase them off or catch or shoot them, and have you or your neighboring farms had to prosecute any roamers to protect your sheep or livestock and family. And what kind of land nesting birds do you have in your area? Whe have quail, pheasants, some wild ducks and geese, that may be hunted in season for food and sport within reason, but our private lands are protected by law against trespassing. It would be interesting to hear more of this and other issues you deal with. Thank you Sean and Stacy and "crew"! Love your channel!
He said farmers have the right to shoot uncontrolled dogs on their land.
Morning sheepman....Michigan USA
I so appreciate a d enjoy your videos
What a beautiful and intelligent dog. Your relationship is inspiring.
Love your videos. This is an excellent reminder that keeping dogs under control is a must and non negotiable.
Thanks especially for the timely reminder on behalf of wildlife as we're heading into nesting and birthing season soon. And, YES, I'd love to hear more details on Right to Roam, thanks!! Great video, thank you again ❤
Thank you for proper dog manners!
Always!
What a beautiful place you live in....WOuld of given my eye teeth to have lived there,,,,Your dogs are beautiful and well trained....Remember when you wake how lucky you are to live in your world....
Sean you are a Fantastic Master at training your Dogs Discipline /Commands along with Love and Affection Beautiful Border Dogs born to have a Man/Woman by their side. 🐕 🐕
Wow, thank you
Glad to hear about the laws for folks livelihood..and protect their livestock and wild life. Bottom line respect.
Stunning photos.
A few years ago, I was finally - in desperation - moved to report a neighbour to both local council and RSPCA.
A monied guy, he'd bought one Pyreneese (huge dogs) after another, left them in a cage in his garden, then had them destroyed when they didn't emerge somehow magically fully trained! They weren't pets - they were fashion accessories.
In the very last case (his 3rd dog I think) I actually trespassed his back garden - following my own wee border terrier who had been worrying me all day about ... something.
That family were abroad for a week - the dog left in a cage with several trays of water and food - as though the dog was expected to ration itself.
They returned to find the dog removed to a shelter, and a court warrant awaiting them. After being fined and sentenced to keep no more pets, they even had the affrontery to ask me and another concerned neighbour why we couldn't simply mind our own bloody business!
Excellent video Sean. Thank you❤❤❤
Sean, that was great video. If I ever come to Scotland I will know what to do. Superb. Thanks.
Great job , Echo!❤
You live real life. You do real job. Its great!
Very interesting video indeed. Watching the control you have over Echo is amazing. Have a happy and safe week. Thank you.
Video well done, explained and demonstrated! 👍 😊
Wonderful informative video Sean, Cheers !!
Id love to hear more about the rules in Scotland!
We have those types of paths where I live. Anyway I can't tell you how many fights I have seen the owners break into over the out of control dogs on the path. We have a leash law. But there are have those that don't think the rules apply to them.
Right to Roam discussion VERY interesting!!
Here where I live in the US, we actually have Leash Laws, and if you are off your own property, your dog, by law, has to be on a leash. There are exceptions for hunting dogs, but you cannot hunt on any public properties (like federal and state parks), so that's not really a problem. You can also have your dogs off leash if you're visiting someone and have their permission to do so. 🐾
I've very good control over my dogs(a border collie and an australian kelpie). They don't run after wildlife, etc(except when they were very young, and then never for long). Just in case I still keep them leashed in situations where we pass close to livestock, or in situations where I feel that I can't be watchful enough. It's just sad that so many dog owners aren't responsible.
And cause you train N work your dogs they think what you doing is a big game... They think it's fun N happy and preventing possible trouble...
Different country different rules. Thanks Sean.
Heads up to Ridgeland gear...
Quality hard wearing...
Ref gates, better to leave them as you find them. I once closed a gate, but the farmer was moving sheep!
my male smooth coat border collie has similar commands. for "lie down" I just say "down." I don't have a sit command, he doesn't need one b/c when I say "down" he's completely deactivated
"go in" is for him to go through a fence or through some other obstacle
for heel I say "walk with me" and he'll walk by my side
for letting go, or for him to stop what he's doing I say "leave it" and he'll stop whatever he's doing
they're the best breed. the world's smartest dog
So different than Canadian law, real interesting. Would love to learn more
I absolutely love that the UK has these rules and follow them. What a lovely culture. This would never work in the US.
See for example Gold Shaw Farm’s video about his “war” against hunters who absolutely refuse to leash their dogs on his property. Americans are extremely belligerent about their “rights” to do what they want, everyone else be damned. I hope the UK and Scotland keep your wonderful respectful culture!
@@sarahlongstaff5101 The thing is people in the US don't have the right to have their animals off leash on other people's private property. GSF does have the right to defend his livestock and property.
And yet he's taking tons of abuse and stalking from the hunters. It's the aggression and combative nature that really turns me off of so many of my fellow citizens. That kind of aggression just wouldn't be tolerated in most other cultures.@@pendlera2959
It used to be that way in the US. If you were respectful to the land, you could roam leaving no trace. But it changed in the 1990’s as people began suing everyone (a walker gets hurt and sues you) and damaging property.
What a shame! I have seen more British people complaining about people doing that there, too, sadly. "Take nothing but photos, leave nothing but footsteps" really isn't too hard a concept to instill in one's kids so they grow up as respectful adults.@@aj1654
In my opinion, in the UK there is an expectation that if you own a dog you will let it off-lead. I’m not a dog owner but have been a sometime dog-walker for several friend’s dogs. Only one of these (a very dog-reactive Rotti) was kept on-leash at all times. One of the other dogs in particular (a zoomy cocker spaniel) was used to running off lead during long hikes & dashing about in the bushes like a typical cocker - but I found it too stressful to walk him as he would go a long way from me and although his recall was good, it came with caveats (he would always come back immediately …IF he wasn’t chasing a squirrel or a bird, IF he hadn’t found something good to eat etc). If I was to own a dog I think I would have a greyhound that I could allow to have zoomies in an enclosed field but would then happily walk alongside me on-lead. I know much of my friend’s joy in their dogs is watching them run & playing ball with them, which would be sad to take away if they were always on-lead. I know they practise recall, but you can’t practise for every possible scenario so there will always be a slight question. Despite letting their dogs off I do believe they are responsible dog owners - they don’t walk near fields with livestock & if they did the dogs would be on-lead. Still I do think off-lead dogs can cause many issues (including when walking a dog-reactive dog!)
I keep my dog on a leash at all times when off of my farm lease. I always want my dog to be safe and people , wildlife, and other livestock.
A recent case in Scotland, I think, a dog worried some sheep, the owner got him back and leashed. The Farmer walked up and shot the leashed dog. The Farmer’s action was upheld by the courts.
That’s so sad! It could have easily have been avoided. Stupid owner caused his own heartbreak.
Please link to this / tell us, exactly, what specific google search to do to get proof. While there are always bad 'uns, I find it almost impossible to believe a farmer would have done this, thus I'm erring on the fake news side.
My daughter keeps her dog on a long training lead (it is quite thick and about 12-20 ft long when in fields with livestock, this allows the dog to sniff the ground but when the dog is on a short lead the dog has to walk to heel and not sniff the ground. As many people have said, you cannot ever know 100% what your dog will do. The dog gets off the lead in livestock free fields. The dog is a happy dog.
People can just walk on your property?!?!?! That's crazy. We have very strict property rights here in the US, and depending on the state, you can be jailed for walking on someone else's property, although thats very rare. Unless you have No Trespassing signs posted everywhere, its hard to prosecute trespass because someone might not have known they were on private property. If its proven that you saw the signs or where told by the owne to get off their land, its a wrap. You'll get a charge.
It's far from crazy. Of-course you shouldn't be walking in peoples gardens, fields during the growing season, or such. But that people have the right to go out hiking in nature and enjoy it is great.
As long as they are hiking on public land...not private property.
Hello Sean
I started watching you channel a month ago.
You do a great job showing the results of the training of the dogs.
Could you do a series of videos that give a detailed explanation of your training methods?
Welcome aboard! Glad you like the videos
My dog's really good with other animals, except non-neutered male dogs. We live in the country, so the only thing I have to worry about is strange dogs coming into our yard, which happens. He also doesn't like men who look like his original owner, who was a drug dealer & dog fighter. He's a pit bull & a good boy, but I still watch him when he's outside of our house. ✌✌
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DOGS OUTTA CONTROL!! VIRAL!!❤
This is so interesting! Wouldn't it be nice if, in the US, the government officials who decided to reintroduce wolf packs too close to ranches would be fined thousands of dollars (out of their own pockets) for "worrying" the ranchers' livestock?! 😂
Your back, Sean ! So the right to roam is very unique. Very interesting topic today that would be a challenge for sure. What is the cause of this, do you think ?
If it’s locked when you approach it, lock it back when you go through. I swear some people were born in a barn…. Lol.
i've had so many dogs run at me recently...it feels like people aren't training them properly anymore...some dog walkers i observe just have no control over their dog at all...and why take your dog for a walk if you're gonna spend the whole time looking at your smart phone?!?!??? there's a lot of zombies out there dude...people just don't think anymore...take care :)
Excellent vid mate
Hi Shawn. I just love your videos on UA-cam. My wife and I just recued a 1/2 Border Collie 1/2 Sheltie who is 7 months old. We do not in any way want to make him a herder as we are in the Suburban part of the USA. However, we do want him to be able to follow the commands that you stated in your video. He is always on lead as he is very, very motion sensitive. This habit has been very hard to break. We repeat with him daily the commands on all walks. Do you believe it is just a mater of time before he learns the commands. If so how long has it taken you from their first train day on average for your dogs to learn the commands? We just want him to be safe on the lead.
The losers can be crazy. The damage to dogs is crazy.
Interested in right to roam please
I think it's common sense but I think the landowners have a duty of care to help make the land rambler friendly. It's a two way street. In the UK some land owners go out of their way to make footpaths and bridleways unusable, or unwelcoming. Dog owners should keep the dog on a leash if they are not especially well trained and you know they will recall on demand
That's a good point.
Do you use just verbal praise or treats as reward?
In the USA when walking dogs they have to bag up their doggie doo and take it home. Honest. In France the men so elegantly stand in front of the doggie doo when walking, so the ladies don't step in it. It's difficult to keep a straight face at times like that. Butt in France there were streets littered with....
How do you know you are not trampling delicate seedlings, or recent planting among pasture grasses? There is no similar law in Michigan USA, except riparian rights to walk along Great Lakes.
Interesting
Nice video! I do have a question. What would happen if you came upon someone’s Livestock Guardian Dog? Would a dog be in danger on or off leash?
Thanks!
People who let their cats outside loose, cats can also go after birds and small animals.
Would a livestock guardian dog help in keeping roaming dogs away from your sheep?
Great video. Thank you for explaining. I love how when you say lie down u sound so Australian lol .
Australian?
I have Cavachon, he looks cute & loves ppl but he’s a dog, he has strong prey drive which overrides recall. He is NEVER off lead.
As a collie owner , i def keep him on a lead near sheep etc
Because i would never get him home
He would be dropping his cv through farmers door
1 good boy eager to learn 😂
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My absolute dream is to one day have the energy to own a Border Collie..
Amazing law ! I can understand the concern of land owners !!! ❤️🦘
Do you ever use treats as praise? Seems like you never use them. Did you when you first started training them and just weaned them off it?
Is Kate an Australian Shepherd ?
How far away can your dogs hear your commands?
"Right to roam " "Not in the USA
In the USA that could be trespassing. I've never heard of any right to go on other people's land. Unless it was right at the edge of the water. Beachcombing at the waters edge. We have trails and public parks for walking. But our lands are private if we own them. Sure it would be curious to compare. In US you can't really shoot someone's dog . But I'm no expert. If you were walking your dogs and another dog attacked, how can you know what is legal to do? So could be interesting. If someone's dog gets caught, who gets the puppies? Lotsa funny topics you could cover. I have still never seen you show one Cat.
I would think you need to be careful walking through a property, especially if you know nothing about it. Safer for you and the livestock. Wouldn’t want to walk into a grazing area with potential aggressive bulls or something. I’d keep my dog on a leash. Unfortunately with years of training she is a lunatic sometimes. I also hate to say, she is a border collie.
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Does he change sides in heel because you are telling him to go to the other side ir is he just changing his mind where he wants to walk?
He likes to do zigzags 😂
Do y'all have stray dog issues?
So, i grew up in the country over 1/2 century ago...if a dog got onto the property and killed or maimed our animals...you had a right to dispatch that animal. If you knew the person that owned the animal you could take them a new dog later...animals have to be controlled when not at home...
Here, in NL i can't walk my dog without a leach. I certainly can't let/send my dog to a sheep herd. Yet.
1 of them was lying on its back, walking past a 2 ha piece of land, full of sheep, with late Tarzan i diagnosed this.
"Will i help?, will i send Tarzan? Would i be punished?".
Thoughts flashing through my mind.
It would die within 1 houer if no action.... Maybe it was there already fore 45 minutes on its back.....
What do i do to save this 1, sheep, life?
So i sent Tarzan.
I got cursed at by a suddenly appearing farmer, threatning to call police on me.
Did i do wrong?
The right to walk, roam or ramble anywhere is a privilege and it should be respected by those who are getting out with their dogs. Thank you Sean!!
That's a very UK privilege. My friend in Scotland and I have a running joke about how she comes close to getting me arrested when she visits 😅
No it's a right. Although out of controlled fogs are a menace
Dogs doh
Owners need as much training as dogs if not more. Good video.
Training might be part of it, but enforcement is another. People get away with it so much that it's normalized.
A loose untrained dog can cause havoc, especially when sheep are in lamb. Keep your dogs on leads near sheep…had a few cases here in Borders sadly
Did you ever think you'd get this many views and followers?? Your content is so unique and gives us an insight into a lifestyle and country most of us could only wonder about. Well done, and thanks so much!!!❤❤❤
I appreciate that!
I appreciate your emphasis on it’s just easier to leash your dog. There comes a point where you have to transition from training in your yard to actually training around livestock. And I don’t think people realize how much work, how many hours it takes to get dogs to work at the level Echo performs.