Canon RF 200-800 REVIEW: The ULTIMATE “Budget” Wildlife SUPER ZOOM Lens?!
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This is a Real World Review of the Canon RF 200-800mm SUPER ZOOM Lens. If you're a wildlife / nature photographer who's not going to drop 16k on a Canon RF 400 2.8 or 600 f4, this lens is for you. Yes it has a variable aperture, but NO OTHER Lens goes to 800mm like this one. This will be perfect for bird and nature photographers as well as people who are going on safari.
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Hey Jared! Long time fan, first time commenting. Thanks for all the great videos! Happy New Year 🐉🎉
what a crazy username
I liked the flamingos with the water background, beautiful effect!
I didn't like Polin the first few times I watched his videos, but he's won me over through the years. Besides being a good resource for photographers, his channel is a good example of how good UA-cam can be when it's done properly.
Thank you
True, my first impression is he's not serious. Then I realized he's actually very serious which makes his content much more professional than most reviewers out there.
Things that I like about Jared is that he gives irl reviews, some reviewers just show charts etc and those doesn’t always tell the real story . Some people think a lens is useless just because it has little worse test chart then the other although irl difference is more or less not noticeable
Yes my dogs and cats hide the first and last moments of his greetings….
yeah he is very consistent
The reason I will start to move to Canon mirrorless and the RF mount.. Put that 200-800 on the R7 and it's insane focal length.
Gotta be pretty good during the day, maybe not so much towards the evening.
Yeah, even though the light gathering ability is compromised having a nearly 1300mm equivalent field of view is crazy.
I find it difficult enough to track BIF at 850mm. Can’t imagine how difficult it will be at 1300mm.
@@imjooboy This 100% (500mm for me!)
@@user-oo7dw4qw4bnot that, the iso performance of my R7 is crazy, i shoot my brother soccer mathes, morning, noon, evening and night, the only thing i noticed is the AF struggling in low light
Been eyeing this hard. I think this is going to be my big purchase this year. I'm a birding newbie shooting on an R8.
This lens, and my R7 will be perfect for shooting the Blue Angels’ practices this season once they get back to Pensacola. From the vantage point at Fort Pickens across the bay from the Naval Air Station… I can’t wait! Thanks for the review I’ve been waiting for Jared!
This video dropped while we were at Allen's Camera picking up our 200-800!! Fro realz!! It was ment to be!
Jared, you always have the best turtorials and reviews, I always tune in to learn something new......great info and content. Thanks!
Nice review!, and love the Fridge reference!
Personally prefer the Sony or Nikon solution of using a 1.4x TC on the 200/180-600 when you really need that range. Otherwise you have a brighter lens when you dont need the insane range. Additionally, internal zoom is ideal for unpredictable or fast moving subjects
I'm yet to see an instance where you wouldn't actually be better off cropping than using the converter.
Love the podcast raw talk is the best, great discussions, always enjoy hearing your opinions
We were watching Jared with EF and FX lenses. We're still watching him with RF and Z. But the 'horizontical' never changed.. 😂
Amazing video as always..
Jared is my photo mentor. Ty for your videos
14:25 - wow! that flamingo shot is pure gold.
Thanks for the review. I would love to use this lens down here for birding and sailing photos, as I travel through the Islands of The Bahamas 🇧🇸
Liking the 'Stabilization ON/OFF' 1 option switch + clever IS
I had this lens on pre order at first. But later on realised 100-500 is the one for me since that 100-200 is so versatile. Also for me in Finland the 200-800 would cost about 2700 euros while i got the 100-500 with winter cashback for 2500. Wish we had same pricing here as you guys in NA
This thing is insane! Crazy, crazy beast
So often I go to wetland areas and the birds are on the other side to me which is inaccessible. This lens will give me the detailed shots I am looking for. Thanks for the review.
This is a great birding lens with an R10, r8, r7. This is a great scouting when going to a new location, before pulling out the big white glass. I also assume you can travel father with this over an F4. The 100 to 400 is probably the best hiking lens.
After being a loyal watcher for 14 years I am completely convinced your the best at what you do in the entire world thank you for all your help
The extreme zoom throw of this lens is similar to that on my Nikon 200-500, and is the main criticism many have of Nikon's lens. I "solved" my long throw problem by adding a inexpensive, easily attached/removed video focus throw lever on the zoom lever. Since I almost always use the lens on a tripod, this simple little gadget works well for me. Sorry, I can't give more details, as it is against UA-cam rules, but I think most people are bright enough to find one online.
Canon did a great job with the price here. I love my Sony 200-600 and the absence of a similar lens is what kept me on the sony platform. This will he a big hit for bird photographers
Thanks for the review! It's lighter than my EF 300 F2.8 (v1) lens that weighs about 6.3 lbs. I just tried it on my new R8 and the weight distribution could be better, especially when I put the 2x convertor on. The RF 200-800 might be a better choice and I'm probably going to buy it.
It makes absolute sense that the tripod mount collar is not made removable. Otherwise there will always be the bright mind who will remove it to save weight and then mount the tripod/monopod by the screw at the camera base. The RF bayonet is made to hold 2 kg lenses but the thread at the camera base will easily break under the combined weight of the camera and the lens, especially as the center of gravity is so displaced to the front and creates a leverage.
I use my 200-600mm a lot at F8, when I add a 1.4x converter it becomes 840mm F9 but I stop down to F11. I'm using the same apatures as this Canon lens without problem. Opening up to F6.3 is such a marginal benefit in low light I prefer be at F8 for increased sharpness, I only use F6.3 if I want the background slightly smoother.
That's not how the loss of "stops" work. With a 1.4x (so sqrt(2) times) teleconverter you lose a whole stop, so you get F/(8xsqrt(2)) which is roughly F/11. Stopping down one F-stop then gives you F/16.
@@LE-ht7pz When I add a teleconverter my 200-600mm goes from F6.3 to F9. My lens isn't F8, I just shoot at that because it's slightly sharper. Some people say 'stop up' for shutting the aperture but I say 'stop down', I don't mean a full stop.
@@KurtisPape Ah, sry! Sounded like you we're talking about a 600mm F/8 at the long end. :) Should have read to the end.
I recently added an R6 Mk II to my gear, and picked up the 800mm f/11. That was a good way to get that extra reach for a reasonable cost. Even after it for a short time, I've gotten nice results with it, particularly shooting the full moon a couple of weeks ago. However, I've decided that I do want a bit more versatility in a super-zoom, so I'm going to be trading the 800 in to get the 200-800. Thanks for posting!
Great video Jared.
Thanks for this review Jared! With my R7 I used to use my Sigma 150-600 Contemporary but I often lacked 100 to 200mm to take the portrait of Goldfinch or other small birds! So I bought this RF200-800! I'm super satisfied with it! It must be said that I film at 60 to 70% and in video the quality gap between the Sigma and the RF200-800 is enormous! And above all, the RF200-800 is completely silent on video! When I use my floating blind I will be able to stay 5 meters from the birds and take close-ups the further I am from them the more it suits me (so as not to disturb them)
Is the buffer really too small? A lot of people hate on it.
@@Universal_Craftsman the buffer could be better the rolling shutter could be better but for the price it's a great aps-c
@@ludowildThe buffer is larger than the buffer on the 7d Mark ii that it replaced. It's even larger if you shoot c-raw. It feels small because the camera is blasted up to 30fps. As for rolling shutter, obviously it depends on the subject, but on average with smaller flying birds it tends to affect maybe one in ten shots. Larger birds move slower, so fewer rolling shutter issues.
As an enthusiast canon shooter with a r6ii, a 24-105 f4 and 70-200 f4, this 200-800 is right in my wheel house of skill and affordability.
Interested to see how it fares in the future, and very interested to potentially get one of my own.
a simple collar over the zoom ring with a sticky up paddle will make that long zoom throw alot easier esp for wildlife on tripod
I currently have a R6Mii and a Sigma 150-600 with the RF-EF adapter. kinda want to upgrade to this to get more reach and the quality might be a bit better, but have to budget for it. do a lot of aircraft (both full scale and radio control) photography and some nature so a big zoom is real nice.
One of my favorite photos was taken at an airshow with the Sigma 150-600. It was sharp enough that I could read the name of the pilot on the side.
I would really like a side-by-side comparison of with the 100-500. Is 200-800 better than the 100-400 as far as image quality? Did you shoot this on the R3 or the 5? Thanks!! I still have the original R. I like the 30mp but am disappointed with other things. Apparently "we've" hit "our" 10 year anniversary. My son has informed me. "Mom, are you still watching him? ... "
The degrees of rotation on the zoom ring is probably fine if you just keep it at 500mm and then you can equally zoom in or out with the same amount of hand movement.
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Its a great lens to have. So versatile and having that reach is insane. I do think a more compact maybe 400-800mm up to f6.3/f7.1 would be interesting and perfect for how I shoot birds. Being able to find the bird and then quickly zoom in. Less zoom range but brighter lens and shorter throw. Its rare that I want to go wider than 400mm. Just a thought I had. I would definitly buy this 200-800mm if I didnt already have the 100-500mm. For environment shots the 70-200mm makes the most sense.
Interesting, saw your mention of the 100-500 and how you were better to crop than to use them with TC.
I did my own testing and had the same conslusion, but when I posted it everyone just assumed I was wrong and had some flaw in my testing.
And that was straight up IQ, not even taking into account the shutter speed loss, flexability, cost, and easy of packing.
Fire arms are combining ideas from photography Cannon might want to think of a Throw lever. That would be an easy attachment to make.
Justgetting back into photography but i might add this lens to my triad. I could go from 28 to 200 at F2.8 and then reach out and touch something all the way to 800 mm without breaking the bank.
Thanks Jared!
This lens is insane. At that price I don't feel bad about it either as a hobbyist.
would have preferred internal zoom and a focus limiter...and a removable collar. Wouldn't have cost that much more for these to be added to the lens...
Yes Nikon and Sony can help you with Internal Zoom @@davepastern
Thanks for the video! Even the rentals are over 30 days out. Out of stock everywhere for many months still. Attests to its popularity.
This looks like the ideal lens for air shows to me (I am often forced to severely crop my photos from the 100-400 lens with my 80D)
I just altered my EF 300 2.8 II so the click stops are removed. IMO so much better.
I have this lens, totally cool so far
that 100-500 is a beast. I do like 200-800 too. I am a Nikon tog' and gravitate to S-line. The100-400 is a sweet lent but I would like to see a 100-500 S-line too. I will be getting the 180-600 though.
I can't wait to compare it to my 600mm F11.
Finally Jered made review for 200 800. I preordered it last year. After 1 months use it, I do like this lens. It has decent sharpness and zoom (800mm) reach for squirrel and small birds with shallow depth of background. It focus fast but not the fastest. It is a little bit heavy for my noodle arm, and weight balance is a little bit weird especially when you change lens. A tiny ignorable fringing on the bright object. Weather seal is just as red ring lens, I used it in rain, snow under -2F. It has no problem. It is built by very solid material, I dropped it on the snow accidentally it still works fine.
In addition the zoom ring did feel a little bit looser after one month. And small tripod can’t handle the weight of this lens. I shoot it most time at 800mm so I didn’t zoom in and out that much frequently.
Have you used this lens with the R7? That sensor is very demanding and not every lens is capable of meeting the requirements for sharpness on it.
Nice with a real world longer review !
@@swistedfilms No, I only used it on R6. I did watch other UA-camr tested in on R7 you can watch their videos as reference. Be honest I think there should no problem if you use this lens on R7. My personally option when aperture is wide open and at minimum focus distance this lens is slightly sharper than 800 f11, 600 f11, and 100 500 + converter. Slightly less sharper than 100 500 without converter. But I highly doubt you can tell the difference until you zoom in to check the detail on your 5K screen.
Hi Jared. As a Nikon shooter, just curious to know if this Canon lens is as sharp as the Nikkor Z 180-600 f/5.6-6.3, since you reviewed both. Also, I find that if I want 900mm with the 180-600, I can always shoot in DX mode, with negligible loss in image quality. Thanks!
I just got to use one on Wednesday! I love this lens…perks of working at a big camera store!
this lens looks great. i have the 100-500 and love it for my kid's soccer games and for birds. the extra reach of this lens for birds prob not as great for soccer if lighting isnt great. thanks for the review
Im thinking about this lens, but first have to cash in my Sigma 300/2.8 and Tamron G2 150-600. Time will show if I is able to do it before I get to old. Im already an oldtimer. ;-)
love the videos Jared. (looks over at my pentax k3) another product i cant afford haha
17:41 that's the Burncat playground? (or however it was spelt) use to be a legit skate spot in Philly back in the early 2000s.., small place but alot of good bench lines were shot there., ground was crappy.., then they redid the whole park and it wasn't the same
I bought it Christmas eve in Australia for $3100, $399 off, when I bought the RF 100-400 I thought what have I done, but not with this lens felt great, little hint if you need to go 200-800 rapidly use it like a trumpet like the Tamron 150-600
Great Video! Thanks :)
I don't use the zoom ring with my Sony 100-400mm g master lens, I put it in Smooth and use the hood and little door for the filter adjustment to pull and push it to the zoom I want. I bet it works on this lens also and you will not have to worry about zooming issues
got this a few weeks ago…it’s what I’ve always wanted for wildlife photography….love it!
I would love to see a wild starship launch with that thing.
That would be insane
I like this lens so much I am considering selling my RF 100-500 and getting another 200-800. To me it is good news when people say they don’t want this lens because it is f9 at 800.
I was not expecting that price point. I may get it
with the RF 24-240 and RF 200-800 + RF 16mm pancake, you got ALL focal lengths covered in 3 relatively compact lenses
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I really wish they brought out this lens a lot sooner. I definitely would have gotten this instead of the 800 and later the 100-500.
I had a feeling, that either a 150-600 or 200-600 might come out so I got the RF100-400 as a gap lens
I have a 70-200mm and regret getting the 100-500mm now that this thing came out 🤦🏾♂
As an aircraft photographer, the background isolation doesn't matter. This is absolutely ridiculously good.
My tamron 150-600 was destroyed in an airshow by rain recently. I am absolutely going for this
What i did with the 150-600 or 50-500 is that i put my hands at the end of the lens and push/pull the end to zoom. It shouldn't be a problem for me
Thinking about this glass for the same use case. Really excited to try it out.
Yeah I am a Military photographer in Australia mainly fighters and Airshows, my mate is the F-35 display pilot back in June he broke my 80d and Tamron 150-600G1 couldn't keep up with him lol, i use this new lens no issues better then I thought even try in grainy weather 1/60 ISO 100 F25 super sharp prop blur amazing
I wasn't sure I should buy it, but if it has solid as William Perry... the. It's a yes!
Regarding a UV filter on the lens, I partially agree, especially on super-zoom lens as low-priced UV coated filters tend to diffuse light affecting sharpness at full zoom. This is like using a zoom lens behind window glass as the glass impurities WILL affect image quality. However, as a sports photographer on field sidelines, a quality UV filter will offer protection against dust, moisture, and impacts against the lens rim when not using a lens hood and is good glass protection insurance. I use a collapsible rubber lens hood instead for the best cushioning for rough handling of my cameras, like on basketball and tennis courts. On the other hand, when doing portrait or studio photography, I''ll remove the UV filter for the optimum image capture. There are pros and cons ot everything and nada is perfect. Right?
So many things are a question of tradeoffs. UV filter vs no filter. APS vs full frame. Cheeseburger vs bacon cheeseburger.
It's a complicated universe.
Agree with this as well as I work primarily in desert motorsports photography. The amount of dust that the gear get pelted with is insane and in some instances, it's protected by rocks and other flying debris.
I honestly dont know what to believe. I've watched comparison videos by a few youtubers with and without filter and the difference is pretty much non existant. Even when looking at pixel level. Nothing like shooting through a window. But many of the professional photographers say its a trap to use filters. Makes me wonder if they have also tried both or if its an unnecessary fear they have. I should do my own tests to know for sure.
I’ve seen a lot of 200-800mm videos and none have mentioned it’s use for outdoor sports. At least one con came out in this video with the high aperture and background noise. Guessing 100-500 would be better to go in this case (youth soccer)?
Currently use 70-200mm 2.8, but son is going to larger pitch soon so been looking at longer zoom range lenses.
I have one on order and can not wit to get my hands on it. I plan on shooting with my R7 so with crop accounted for it should act like a 320-1280. Also on a crop body, I will be using the sharpest part of the lens, the middle and I hope this will get me great wildlife shoots that I would otherwise not be able to capture.
I'm pretty sold on this lens after hearing from you.
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Jared- love the videos been watching over 10 years. I would recommend that you ask Canon why they cannot deliver this lens to those of us who ordered over 5 months ago and still nothing and no word. This lens is unobtanium.
I have both a Sony A74and a Canon R6M2, I'm thinking if I should buy the Canon 200-800 lens or maybe the Sony 200-600 and also buy a Konvortok 1.4, which is better..? For the best possible image quality
What are you typically shooting with these super tele?
Hi Jared, I'm a bit late to the party but I just watched this video and had a little giggle about the smooth and tight musicians . I like to introduce you to the most tight musician, multi instrumentalist, singer and producer "Louis Cole" and his song "I'm Tight". He says so himself he's tight so there you have it.
I love your channel. Keep up the good work and greetings from The Netherlands.
Hey Jared, is that the same white paint on the white R50 that's itself slightly different from the white paint on the L zoom lenses?
As always. Great review. I want one. Maybe trade in my 100-500 for this and a 70-200mm with a little extra $ of course!!
I have been using the RF 100-500 for surf video and photography. Will the RF 100-500 with a 1.4 or 2x extender perform on par or better than the RF 200-800 at the same focal lengths?
So you have to turn the zoom wheel? Is it not possible to just pull the zoom like at the EF 100-400 II? Isn't that the idea if you completely untighten the tighten ring? Pulling a zoom is so much more confortable.
In this budget i got my sigma 150-600mm and 250d and it works fine and has same reach too
Please include hair test to your reviews, if your hair get stuck inside the lens when you zoom out, does it uproot from scalp while zooming back in?
so if you were using for wildlife photography. Which lens would you choice, the RF 200-800 or the 100-500?
Under $2,000 is fantastic for a lens with this much range. Good on Canon for making it reasonable.
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Jared remember one thing when doing reviews most other reviewer forget. A lot of photographers can't afford the really high end stuff so they don't have a lot of internal focusing lenses.This is not intended for the R5 or R3 crowd it is intended for the RP or R8 crowd.
+1 on this. I have an RP with the 100-400 and something like this intrigues me for birding.
Hello I'm an amateur looking to improve my lens. Currently I have an r6 mark 2 with the rf 100-400 F5.6-8 lens. I shoot majority nature/sports. I love the detail and explanation with nature and other wildlife that you showed but would this be good as well for sports? Would you suggest getting the 200-800 or go with the 100-500? Thanks for the advice!
Go with the 200-800. With the 100-500 you'll often find you're cropping too much for small birds, if you shoot those.
@hstein27 okay great thank you! I will probably save up for the 200-800 lens sounds like it will do the nature needs and can work well enough for the sports side of photography too.
Sorry, I usually don't take raw photos, I don't have time for processing. Many megapixels are also not my favorite. It's different for lenses, I like good lenses. I'm not always in favor of sharp photos, but I like them to be richer in color and the right moment is of great importance to me. That's how I like to do it.
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The detail is like an art❤❤
This is both my least expensive and most favorite lens, it's an absolute blast to shoot with
I'm looking to upgrade from a Sigma 150-600 to the Canon 200-800. Would you feel that it's enough of an improvement to justify the jump from the $800 Sigma lens to a nearly $2,000 Canon lens?
Month late and 3 dollars short. Lots of interest in the lens when it was officially announced and released on the 14th of DEC. I was lucky to get one of the few available in my state. Great lens, seems to work better on my R6MII vs the R7. Passes the wind and snow tunnel test for sure.
What problems are you having on the R7? Is it sharp enough?
@@swistedfilmsprobably autofocus and lack of ibis related problems
AF seemed a little sluggish with birds in flight. @@swistedfilms
The Sigma 60-600 works pretty well. Granted it’s not designed for Mirrorless, but still a good lens. I often shoot it with a 1,4x tc
That’s what I thought. If you put an 1.4x tc on the sigma 150-600 you pretty much get exactly the same focal length of this lens. And in addition it’s still a brighter aperture.
@@checkarpeatIt would be a 840mm f9 with worse sharpness. But without the teleconverter it has a wider aperture
You can put a tc on this 200-800mm if you want even more reach so there really is nothing compareable in a 600mm lens. If you dont need the 800mm then the RF 100-500mm will give you better images than the sigma even with tc, with the drawback of being awkward to use.
Jared on the Canon R5 when you're using the expanding flexible spot (one center square surrounded by four smaller squares) are you using animal eye-AF with the same button or is the flexible spot just to acquire close focus and then a separate button for wide-AF/animal eye-AF? I think I tried to use animal eye-AF in a zone before and was unable to find a way to do so, I could only get eye-AF to work in wide (full coverage).
HI there -I hope my comment helps-
South African here who goes to bush often (what you call safari) and shoots a lot of wildlife in challenging conditions where the animals and background often blend.
(Kalahari/Kgalagadi) ...
If you use the wide selection (we call it Bird catcher in our house) it will often look for eye and we use it against bland backgrounds with good contrast.
However, what some of the safari photo guides and wildlife photographers do,
is set a custom menu/mode.
I have C2 set up on my R5 with everything the same, except BBF/AF button on the selection, be it single dot or zone and then I assign the * button to EYE /AF . (video link attached at bottom)
So, I use the zone to get the animal and then the eye/Af to get it perfect... and I can easily switch between the 2 depending on how the camera is behaving with the subject
reason for this is mainly Leopards and Cheetahs. LOL, if the eye is closed there are heck of a lot of dots to choose from ...especially on a Wildebeest, it often struggles to find the dark eye on dark skin... on a jackal it often grabs the back.
I missed a leopard kill with my fancy new R5 cos I was on Eye/AF and it grabbed a twig. The guy next to me with a 2nd hand 1DX mk1 nailed it cos he was on single dot...
My wife and i also limited the number of AF setting to single dot, wide zone and Eye/AF to allow us to scroll between modes faster..
Essentially , we realised after many mistakes when to use which mode...and are still learning each time, luckily we do it together ( though financially this is less ideal🤣) .
what we eventually started to realise is that the processor in the camera is NOT a supercomputer and cannot do everything we would like it to.
it all looks amazing in the promo videos and UA-cam channels ... Old fashioned skills and habits cannot be left at home.
I attach a link where a guy does it.
ua-cam.com/video/sqLQ-TzwCis/v-deo.html
for Canon setups and Bird photography, follow Jan Wegener and Simon d'Entremont as well as Pangolin Wildlife Photography ...These 3 channels are very helpful..
Any news on the horizon of Sony, Sigma, or Tamron coming up with a competitive E mount in that 200-800 range? Would love to see and E mount hit the market.
I have the sigma 150-600C, i have a weird habit of treating it like a prime, i basically pick a focal length and stick to it, which lets be honest i do wildlife so its always locked at 600mm... So a big throw doesnt throw me off at all luckily
Great review, but testing on the R3? This lens is more likely going to be purchased by someone on an enthusiast body, such as the R7. How do you feel that would change your review?
Pairs well with an r8 also
800mm in a handholdable lens is a game changer.
Great vid & review Jared. Very impressed with this lens + price point combination. This opens up *worlds* of creative opportunities for amateur and enthusiast photogs for whom this range of reach is financially unrealistic. …not to mention it looks like a hell of a lot of fun.
15:00 Biggest take away I got form this review is the MFD. My 800 F11 is close to 20 feet!
It's 10.83 feet at 800mm which is still good.
wow that's an amazing seagull at 23:54!!!
If it were an internal zoom it would always be the length of the 800mm and it would be fixed at f9. So think of it getting smaller when you zoom out rather than getting bigger when you zoom in.
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