Great presentation and a lot of good points. At Utah Desert Remote Observatories we don’t restrict selling data, it’s your data and your free to do whatever you want.
Thank you for the most informative presentation. I look forward to looking at international options. I'm putting together a remote observatory and I'm currently testing subsystems at a friends house who lives in a rural area. I am testing a Starlink and have come up with a pretty good way of getting data back quickly no very low workload. I write data to a OneDrive directory on the remote computer as I'm collecting. The data is uplinked to the OneDrive cloud automatically. It is then downloaded to my home machine using the "Keep files for off-line use" setting on the local OneDrive directory. A simple directory monitoring script then copies it to my NAS. All of a night's collection is available for processing when I wake in the morning.
Interesting presentation. I honestly had no idea about how steep some of the costs were to get a remote imaging setup going in Chile. That VAT alone...
Astrophotographers are geeks, gear junkies. A friend of mine said “wow you have an expense hoody” then he goes out and buys a new jet boat and new pickup….each to their own.
Completly incredible, this really far of what people are doingin real life 😂. It looks like a pure ego trip. For whatvpurpose at the end? Pictures? If only we where talking about science. But we're not. Just nuce pictures. That's crazy 😂 Have you tryed to do a $/Mb of produced data? I'm sure any backyard observatory is better in this ratio.
These systems cost fortune. He probably spent 100K for equipment, 25K to Chile government, 10K for shipping and 20K per year for remote observatory bill. Question is why do you need it? Just buy pictures from 5-7 remote sites; for example, buy from Russians. The same boring sheeit, which will satisfy ego. By the way, seeing in West Texas is as good as there. Maybe even better.
Because for some of us buying data isn't satisfying. We enjoy acquiring the gear, configuring it, tuning it, and having full control over it. Who cares what it costs he can clearly afford it and if it didn't bring joy to his life he clearly wouldn't do it.
@@regp5 If you enjoy it, do it from backyard. What is problem? His argument about cost efficiency is ridiculous. Garry Imm is 100 times more effective than he is. Bottom line, he doesn’t enjoy it. It is ego trip. Not acquiring gears, but buying gears. Not tuning, but paying for tuning. I agree about enjoying organizing it and can afford it.
@@anata5127 I follow him on Astrobin and read every post. I answered your question you just don't seem to like the answer. Some of us like owning and having full control over the equipment. Some of us want to image in the best skies possible. Clearly it doesn't seem worth it to you and that's fine but that doesn't mean it isn't worth it for others. Who are you to judge the way someone else pursues their passion and call it ego? Who hurt you?
@@regp5 I like your answers, I just don’t agree with it. I bet you follow him. Just don’t tell me that he has full control over equipment. Any backyard astrophotographer has more control. Now about ego. He just didn’t need to tell BS about cost efficiency. It sounded ridiculous. I brought you example, can bring zillion examples. He didn’t need to show that first insulting slide pointing “he is up here, and you are all down there”. It is farking ego. I am surprised you don’t see it.
@@anata5127 By "control" I means being the sole decider on what the telescope does and when. When a telescope is properly dialed it doesn't need to be physically touched very often at all so it makes little difference whether the scope is 50 ft away or 500 miles away. Some people like to image from their yard, some like to travel into the field, some like to images remotely. Some (like myself) do a combination of all 3. I can't fathom why the way someone chooses to engage in their hobby upsets you so much. Have fun with that.
Great presentation and a lot of good points. At Utah Desert Remote Observatories we don’t restrict selling data, it’s your data and your free to do whatever you want.
Very informative and excellent presented! Really enjoyed it.
Thank you for the most informative presentation. I look forward to looking at international options.
I'm putting together a remote observatory and I'm currently testing subsystems at a friends house who lives in a rural area. I am testing a Starlink and have come up with a pretty good way of getting data back quickly no very low workload.
I write data to a OneDrive directory on the remote computer as I'm collecting. The data is uplinked to the OneDrive cloud automatically. It is then downloaded to my home machine using the "Keep files for off-line use" setting on the local OneDrive directory. A simple directory monitoring script then copies it to my NAS. All of a night's collection is available for processing when I wake in the morning.
I do the exact same thing with Dropbox
Interesting presentation. I honestly had no idea about how steep some of the costs were to get a remote imaging setup going in Chile. That VAT alone...
Astrophotographers are geeks, gear junkies. A friend of mine said “wow you have an expense hoody” then he goes out and buys a new jet boat and new pickup….each to their own.
In the end you state that selling the gear is the best option. What if you'd like to have the gear returned?
Completly incredible, this really far of what people are doingin real life 😂.
It looks like a pure ego trip. For whatvpurpose at the end? Pictures? If only we where talking about science. But we're not. Just nuce pictures. That's crazy 😂
Have you tryed to do a $/Mb of produced data? I'm sure any backyard observatory is better in this ratio.
Actually, we're talking about frontier research.
These systems cost fortune. He probably spent 100K for equipment, 25K to Chile government, 10K for shipping and 20K per year for remote observatory bill.
Question is why do you need it? Just buy pictures from 5-7 remote sites; for example, buy from Russians. The same boring sheeit, which will satisfy ego.
By the way, seeing in West Texas is as good as there. Maybe even better.
Because for some of us buying data isn't satisfying. We enjoy acquiring the gear, configuring it, tuning it, and having full control over it. Who cares what it costs he can clearly afford it and if it didn't bring joy to his life he clearly wouldn't do it.
@@regp5 If you enjoy it, do it from backyard. What is problem? His argument about cost efficiency is ridiculous. Garry Imm is 100 times more effective than he is.
Bottom line, he doesn’t enjoy it. It is ego trip.
Not acquiring gears, but buying gears. Not tuning, but paying for tuning. I agree about enjoying organizing it and can afford it.
@@anata5127 I follow him on Astrobin and read every post. I answered your question you just don't seem to like the answer. Some of us like owning and having full control over the equipment. Some of us want to image in the best skies possible. Clearly it doesn't seem worth it to you and that's fine but that doesn't mean it isn't worth it for others. Who are you to judge the way someone else pursues their passion and call it ego? Who hurt you?
@@regp5 I like your answers, I just don’t agree with it. I bet you follow him.
Just don’t tell me that he has full control over equipment. Any backyard astrophotographer has more control.
Now about ego. He just didn’t need to tell BS about cost efficiency. It sounded ridiculous. I brought you example, can bring zillion examples. He didn’t need to show that first insulting slide pointing “he is up here, and you are all down there”.
It is farking ego. I am surprised you don’t see it.
@@anata5127 By "control" I means being the sole decider on what the telescope does and when. When a telescope is properly dialed it doesn't need to be physically touched very often at all so it makes little difference whether the scope is 50 ft away or 500 miles away. Some people like to image from their yard, some like to travel into the field, some like to images remotely. Some (like myself) do a combination of all 3. I can't fathom why the way someone chooses to engage in their hobby upsets you so much. Have fun with that.