Why does concrete reinforcement have deformations?

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  • The tandem of concrete and steel works well in resisting loads since concrete is amazing at resisting compressive loads while the steel bars are great at taking care of the tensile forces. The combination of these two constriction materials gives rise to reinforced concrete that has been a central figure in the construction of modern society. But small details around this composite material have evolved over time. For example, in the early days of concrete construction, the steel reinforcement used to be plain (undeformed). Later on, it was found out that this is not the optimal way to reinforce concrete. This video investigates and points out the effects of using deformed vs. plain rebar on the strength of the reinforced concrete beams.
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    References:
    [1] J. Maffei, "The Seismic Evaluation and Retrofitting of Bridges," University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand, 1996.
    [2] S. Brzev and J. Pao, "Shear Design of Beams and One-Way Slabs," in Reinforced Concrete A Practical Approach, Toronto, Prentice Hall, 2009, pp. 260-315.
    [3] A. P. Clark, "Bond of Concrete Reinforcing Bars," Journal of Research of the National Bureau of Standards, vol. 43, pp. 565-579, 1949.
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  • @syl20bou
    @syl20bou 11 місяців тому +48

    The stirups don't need deformations to prevent slipping because they are bent 90 deg at every corner, so no slipping possible, especially on such small lengths

    • @jacobhoffman2553
      @jacobhoffman2553 11 місяців тому +4

      nope.... ribbed for her pleasure

    • @randomcrashingfacility31
      @randomcrashingfacility31 5 місяців тому

      They are required here in Turkey.

    • @ChristianWagner888
      @ChristianWagner888 5 місяців тому +2

      Stirrups in the Philippines are always made from ribbed rebar for good reason. Usually at least 10 mm diameter. We just had multiple magnitude 7 earthquakes with no structural building collapse.

    • @TungstenCarbideProjectile
      @TungstenCarbideProjectile 2 місяці тому +1

      No they should be deformed, it's not accurate to put that in the video. If anyone uses plain bar for stirrups its purely because they are cheap

  • @tomsko863
    @tomsko863 11 місяців тому +16

    Great video. Short and to the point. Thanks for quantifying it at the end.

  • @davidparks395
    @davidparks395 11 місяців тому +7

    Stirrups are mainly used to for tying your horizontal reinforcing together to create a rigid continuous unit and are typically smaller in diameter bar than the surrounding reinforcing, in a case like you’ve shown, they could be used to gain compressive strength in a column or pier as opposed to a flexural strength ,which many bridge decks an elevated slabs are designed for. I don’t see to many smooth reinforcing in builds, but when I do they are typically smooth dowels, mostly epoxy coated, in control joints to allow for expansion and retraction of the concrete where deformed bar would grip and could cause failure in the joints from the stress of the expansions and retraction cause by weather changes.

  • @saimandebbarma
    @saimandebbarma 11 місяців тому +8

    Yup, rebar ridges matter coz they increase the bond between the concrete and the reinforcing steel, improving the overall strength and stability of the structure. ☝️👍

  • @EntropicTroponin
    @EntropicTroponin 11 місяців тому +16

    I'm more surprised someone ever thought a plain bar would be a good idea

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  11 місяців тому +6

      Yeah, it does not sound like a good idea. I wonder if maybe back then deforming the bars was adding too much to the cost. Would be interesting to hear from someone who has worked in a rebar factory.

    • @EntropicTroponin
      @EntropicTroponin 11 місяців тому +4

      @@TheEngineeringHub you are probably right. I guess the reasoning for using pain bars was: it's better than nothing and works well the times we tried it.

    • @Umski
      @Umski 11 місяців тому +2

      Same here - sounds like they just winged it on price back in the day but common sense suggests that ridges are going to help hold the concrete to the rebar - much like a screw or ridged nail 🤷‍♂️

    • @s.a.3882
      @s.a.3882 11 місяців тому

      They probably assumed the frictional force was sufficient - after all, steel pilling doesn't have deformations and they work perfectly well.

  • @sammyday3341
    @sammyday3341 11 місяців тому +4

    Excellent presentation. Thank you.

  • @wayneyadams
    @wayneyadams 11 місяців тому +19

    Stirrups are used to tie main reinforcement bars together, so they don't need the increased concrete bonding that deformations provide.

  • @anitarenic7583
    @anitarenic7583 6 місяців тому +1

    always watching these video before starting with my job as a structural engineer and it's always super interesting and so well explained :) Good job! It could be nice with some videos that are covering FEM design topic, or maybe they are already there but I somehow overlooked them😃

  • @ravshanbekmavlonov2996
    @ravshanbekmavlonov2996 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for your very helpful content.

  • @AlphatecEngineering
    @AlphatecEngineering 11 місяців тому +1

    Another great video! thanks for sharing it.

  • @arunz9241
    @arunz9241 11 місяців тому

    Excellent presentation

  • @davidhiggins3986
    @davidhiggins3986 9 місяців тому

    Stirrups do not run horizontally like the structural rebar and are there to keep the rebar in place

  • @chang.stanley
    @chang.stanley 8 місяців тому

    Why is the deformation that exact pattern? I almost always see this exact pattern and sometimes only one other similar pattern

  • @emlillthings7914
    @emlillthings7914 11 місяців тому +5

    I guess the plain bars in the stirrup, is to prevent the stirrup from gripping more than the rest, causing uneven tensions.
    But don't really know

    • @criticalmass181
      @criticalmass181 11 місяців тому

      Sounds good to me. I was thinking more along the lines of cost saving, but your theory make more sense. All in all, a stirrup is deformed by the nature of it's shape, so we may both be onto something? I'm sure there's an explanation....

    • @Promilus1984
      @Promilus1984 11 місяців тому +3

      In Poland all steel carrying construction loads should be AIII/AIIIN (deformed). So if there's actually a load across stirrup it should be from a deformed steel bar (which is a factor in some beams), plain stirrups are ok when they are not carrying much of the load and only used as a mounting frame. And even with that we're generally moving towards deformed rebars on all stirrups. Polish Norm is derivative of Euro Code so I guess it should be similar across EU countries.

    • @criticalmass181
      @criticalmass181 11 місяців тому

      @@Promilus1984 Thanks for the real answer..

  • @shihabchowdhury9348
    @shihabchowdhury9348 10 місяців тому +1

    Brother make video on wooden structures, iam studying civil engineering , it will help me to gain good knowledge.

  • @ravshanbekmavlonov2996
    @ravshanbekmavlonov2996 9 місяців тому

    billions of likes for you 👍👍👍

  • @christopherespeleta8465
    @christopherespeleta8465 11 місяців тому

    Sir what is steelman

  • @oswald2358
    @oswald2358 9 місяців тому +1

    Nice

  • @dragonsdynamite6403
    @dragonsdynamite6403 11 місяців тому

    It’s similar to roughening a cable to have better bond with PU

  • @oligoprimer
    @oligoprimer 11 місяців тому +1

    Showing strain curves in addition to stress curves would be useful

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  11 місяців тому +1

      There were non reported, only mid-point deflections

  • @weeb3277
    @weeb3277 11 місяців тому +4

    0:20 how do you retrofit a building or a bridge? maybe make a video on that?

    • @tomrogers9467
      @tomrogers9467 11 місяців тому +1

      Demolition and rebuilding.

  • @t-rex4211
    @t-rex4211 11 місяців тому

    How do they retrofit rebar in concrete?

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  11 місяців тому +1

      You won't retrofit the rebar alone, but the whole structural system. It could be adding additional members, strengthening parts of the structure, providing confinment to columns, and so on.

  • @AllAccessConstruction
    @AllAccessConstruction 11 місяців тому +1

    😂😂😂 Crazy never knew that.. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

  • @Kyntteri
    @Kyntteri 11 місяців тому +3

    For her pleasure.

  • @csehszlovakze
    @csehszlovakze 11 місяців тому +4

    is it true that rusty rebar is better?

    • @wyndwalkerranger7421
      @wyndwalkerranger7421 11 місяців тому +1

      In my concrete lab many years ago we made model beams and columns. We purposely rusted the steel wire used as reinforcement to mimic deformations.

    • @m.streicher8286
      @m.streicher8286 11 місяців тому +2

      The rust does provide a layer of protection from further oxidation

    • @emlillthings7914
      @emlillthings7914 11 місяців тому +1

      Far as I've understood it, supposedly much better grip, because it gets increased surface area, and the rust chemically binds more to the calcium (I think it was)

    • @MaxMustermann-yj1wz
      @MaxMustermann-yj1wz 11 місяців тому

      No.
      Fake news...

    • @KibitoAkuya
      @KibitoAkuya 11 місяців тому

      ​@@m.streicher8286 rust in mostly iron materials is porous, so air can still get in and worsen corrosion
      This is one of the things alloys like Stainless try to address, the chromium in the alloy oxidizes when exposed to the air, forming a film that it's nonporous increasing resistance (they're not all actually fully "stainless" like the name implies, most of the "stainless" steels used for knife making and the like are only resistant because the amounts required to make it fully stainless make them not hardenable, but things like Stainless pots and pans and the like can actually be made fully stainless since you don't need to harden them)

  • @localcrew
    @localcrew 11 місяців тому +1

    “Ribbed - for her pleasure...”

  • @joeycheng-su9tx
    @joeycheng-su9tx 11 місяців тому

    They are not deformed to achieve better bend radiuses

  • @hafeeznoormohamed1259
    @hafeeznoormohamed1259 11 місяців тому +5

    really like how your animation style has developed over time. Also enjoying this shorter format--keep em' coming!
    also about your stirrup question.. I think you already told us the answer here!
    ua-cam.com/video/KEu7KUpCX0g/v-deo.html

  • @neilgrieve6629
    @neilgrieve6629 11 місяців тому

    Why does concrete need sand and water? Why do bolts have threads? Why do vehicles have wheels? Why are construction beams not made with cardboard it's obviously cheaper? These are some other awesome videos suggestions. Great stuff keep them coming we need more content like this very useful information

    • @ellobo1326
      @ellobo1326 11 місяців тому +2

      Aren’t you clever ? What’s your engineering channel named ?

  • @JMJM75257
    @JMJM75257 11 місяців тому

    I don't have to watch the video or be an expert to deduce that they are for providing grip to anchor the bar into the concrete. If it was smooth there would be little to lock it in and would be much weaker.

  • @britzwickit
    @britzwickit 11 місяців тому +1

    "..almost tripled" 34k is not more than triple of 11k? huh

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  11 місяців тому

      True, it's more than tripled. The numbers are read off a hand-drawn chart from the 1940s, so probably give it +/-5%

  • @SJR_Media_Group
    @SJR_Media_Group 11 місяців тому +4

    Where does Fiberglass Rebar fit within this loading chart? It was my understanding that while Fiberglass and other composites may not have exact same tensile strength of steel rebar, they do not rust when exposed to water or salts. No rusting means the reinforcement will not swell resulting in early failure. Other reports will state that Fiberglass is actually stronger than steel, but strength to weight might be confusing.
    It is possible to use anti-corrosion coatings on steel rebar to prevent or delay rusting. In practical use though I have never found coatings to actually work in the field. Rebar is cut, bent, and tied together. This can cause anti-corrosion coatings to fail and is a waste of money. While Fiberglass rebar might have some additional costs associated with making 'bends' prior to delivery, it is far less expensive in long term.
    Are there technologies coming that deliver even higher performance and longevity?

    • @Aquade
      @Aquade 11 місяців тому +2

      GRFP, CRFP, and AFRP bars, which are glass carbon and aramid fiber composites, behave differently than steel bars. They can have higher yield strengths and they perform better in corrosive environments. The downside is that they can't be bent to shapes. Additionally, their anchorage to the concrete behaves differently because of how the ridges on their shell are created

    • @Aquade
      @Aquade 11 місяців тому +1

      The most promising corrosion resistance solution on the steel side is stainless. Epoxy coated bars simply do not work due to construction conditions where the coating is harmed nullifying its benefits. Galvanized bars are also becoming more widely accepted but there are issues with the hot dip coating once certain bend radii are made

    • @SJR_Media_Group
      @SJR_Media_Group 11 місяців тому

      @@Aquade Using Stainless makes perfect sense. Thanks - appreciate the feedback.

    • @SJR_Media_Group
      @SJR_Media_Group 11 місяців тому

      @@Aquade Thanks for comment.

    • @SJR_Media_Group
      @SJR_Media_Group 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Aquade I can still remember pouring concrete in the field. Sometimes we used 'chairs' to hold the rebar up off the ground. But even they can allow water to infiltrate to the rebar. Some old timers said forget chairs, they used rocks... really. Lately have seen nothing used, rebar or welded wire mesh is pulled up by workers with rakes. I have found that to be not very precise. If an engineer has spec'd reinforcement, they also spec where within concrete it must be located for optimal strength.

  • @janorazmadze9948
    @janorazmadze9948 11 місяців тому

    👍👍👍

  • @johnbauman4005
    @johnbauman4005 11 місяців тому

    RRRebars have rrridges.

  • @Edward4Plantagenet
    @Edward4Plantagenet 11 місяців тому

    Ridges & Dots matter in Condom,
    It definitely matters in Rebbar

  • @RR-gp3qy
    @RR-gp3qy 11 місяців тому

    Key

  • @dougadams9419
    @dougadams9419 11 місяців тому

    A smooth bar has nothing for the concrete to adhere to.

  • @No2AI
    @No2AI 11 місяців тому

    Friction

  • @TungstenCarbideProjectile
    @TungstenCarbideProjectile 2 місяці тому

    Stirrups must absolutely be deformed bar. This is not accurate and should be removed from the video. The only reason but to is to save money. And then you have another scoan collapse in your hands

    • @TheEngineeringHub
      @TheEngineeringHub  2 місяці тому

      That's the point of the video. Have a look at the paper listed in the references

  • @user-ij7zn2jg3o
    @user-ij7zn2jg3o Місяць тому

    Might cause concrete cancer