The flag Oversimplified is using is the official flag of the Confederate States. The controversial flag that you know of is the battle flag of the Army of Tennessee, the army under General Braxton Bragg.
Technically, the Virginia version of the Battle FLag is square...the rectangular version was used by Tennessee. I only recently found this out myself. ✌
The battle flag was chosen because the national flag, known as the Stars and Bars as depicted in Over Simplified, was often confused at a distance in the summer haze and smoke of battle with the U.S. flag due to their similarity.
The rectangular flag that everyone just thinks of as the Confederate flag is actually the Battle Flag of Tennessee. The Battle Flag of Virginia is almost the same, it is just square instead of rectangular. I only learned this recently myself.
Though of course to just throw everyone off, they end up putting that standard in the corner of the Stainless and Bloodstained Banners. They couldn't decide on any flag
Well it's more than that. The confederacy was new and so you had all sorts of proud state flags. I think the stars and bars was a virginia invention? Correct me if I'm wrong (edit: Just saw your comment about Tennessee)
Those large pieces of land were just territoies that were pretty sparcely populated at that time withe the majority being native americans and some white settlers who were just starting to come in also the big one youre looking at is actually called the dakotah territory.
The territorial system was created at the conclusion of the War of Independence, when the US also acquired the "Old" Northwest (what we now think of as the industrial Midwest or the Great Lakes region). This land was administered by the Federal Government but was available for creating new states when the population of a territory reached a certain level. Frequently the territories were subdivided into smaller territories and then upgraded to states. This process happened repeatedly as US acquired Louisiana and then the territories of the Mexican cession. It bought Florida and Alaska and they were largely unchanged in their size or their scope: similarly, it saw independent states of Texas and Hawaii annexed and also retained in size and scope (tho Texas, which is huge and populous) retains the right to subdivide itself into as many as five states. The intent was to provide more slave states and maintain the balance of votes in the Senate (which was the reason for the equality in the number of states during the period 1820 to 1850, when California was admitted without a slave state to offset its two senators).
Yes but pausing every 30th seconds is annoying af and since the girl is there she talks over the narrator and often the guy is pausing the video comment then restart it and praise again 2 seconds later again.
i wish they went back during the republican party and lincoln mention early on cause they missed an important 15 seconds talking about queen whoever....smdh
yeah..the reason the south cared so much about slavery was it was their economy...hard to get over it...yeah change slavery so the south basically has to start from scratch and whites have to work?..its jarring as a sudden change for like 70% of people
@@razkable 95% of current day America *never* owned slaves. What you mean to be outraged about is the 23% of the south that worked the fields that supplied 70% of the *entire* planets cotton.
Before a state would become a state, they were usually incorporated territories. A few like Texas and California were short lived Republics, Hawaii was a Kingdom, and Alaska was a Russian territory.
@@JamesCornwall95 well, Hawaii was a territory for about a century before it was incorporated as a state, but it was indeed a kingdom. Look up King Kamehameha I. And on the subject of territories, one topic of conversation that sometimes appears in American politics is whether the American territory of Puerto Rico should become the 51st state.
I had a US and the Pacific research class as one of my final classes before i graduated in 2020. I wrote my paper about the Hawai'i-US relations. Technically, Hawai'i is an illegal state. The US annexed the republic that was formed with the overthrow of Liliuokalani in 1893, and then it was given statehood in 1959. But the native people never got a chance to vote for self-determination (in 1893 OR 1959) which is something we like to believe in here in the US. The native Hawai'ians never voted for a republic nor to join the US in 1898 so anything after that period is illegal. But no one is going to enforce it
The primary reason that the South seceded was slavery, the primary goal of the North was the reunification of the USA, and it was the case that ending slavery helped that cause. The Civil War WAS about slavery because the war doesn't happen if the South doesn't secede over slavery.
Exactly, like I hate it when people try and say it wasn’t, it just sounds like southern propaganda at some point. More then half a million Americans died in that war and to try and twist the reasons for why many of them fought is pretty messed up.
@@Jklopoppcorn It goes both ways as well. There are people who try and claim that every soldier that fought for the Confederacy fought because they supported slavery, which is just as incorrect.
No, the issue of slavery was not a strawman in any way. It is directly what the war was entirely about. The Southern states seceded because they felt that the "institution of slavery" was under attack by the North. They stated this very clearly and in detail in their articles of secession. Slavery in the US was an economic issue. Slaves were used as a free source of labor allowing for higher production and cheaper products. This benefitted the North as you mentioned, as well as Europe. The South didn't just benefit, they had become completely dependent on it. It's true that the North was interested in keeping the union together more so than ending slavery at the start of the war, but slavery was the reason that the union was not together to begin with. It's not a separate issue. There was also a growing abolitionist movement in the North, many of whom did see slavery as both an economic and moral issue. That growing number of abolitionists were starting to elect politicians who were echoing their criticisms of slavery, which is a large part of why the South felt threatened. Your comparison to people working in Chinese factories was actually spot on. True, they aren't slaves, but they do work long hours in bad conditions for very little pay. Their government doesn't see an issue with this. Meanwhile, we all buy the products and turn a blind eye to it because we don't want the price of things to go up while also saying how morally outraged we are that people would have to work in such conditions. It's very similar.
States had laws surrounding slavery and the slave trade. The US Constitution clearly defines the powers of the Federal Government and nowhere did it say they could overrule states laws surrounding slave trade. In fact the US Constitution specifically says that states rights override the Federal Governments rights if the US Constitution doesn’t specifically regulate a certain area such as the slave trade. State laws made slavery possible. There’s a reason why oversimplified only showed two states official secession papers and only a couple of sentences that happen to mention slavery.. a lot of other states were concerned with the power of the federal government. Specifically since what they were trying to do flew straight in the face of the founding documents. This really was a battle over states rights. Sure.. some wanted to keep their slavery. Most probably did in fact. But it was a slippery slope to the states having no rights to govern themselves as our founding documents clearly said each state had a right to do. Saying it was ONLY about the slave trade really is oversimplified. Ps- according the Declaration of Independence itself, states have a right to leave.. when their government no longer represents them.. the North didn’t put Jefferson Davis on trial for fear the jury would find secession to be LEGAL ffs.. and if you read the Declaration.. it IS legal for states to leave.
@@topherd1011 states rights to what, m8? And how is outlawing slavery a "slippery slope to states having no rights to govern themselves"? Its _SLAVERY_ .
The flag you were talking about at 27:00 wasn't the national flag of the confederacy, the one shown in the video was the right one (at least for that year, they went through a lot of designs). Your thinking of the naval jack and/or the confederate battle flag. Civil War history is always interesting, I have several ancestors who fought on both sides. One of the cooler stories is my 3X great grandpa Samuel Slavens who was a part of the Andrews Raiders. They snuck into confederate territory, some 200 miles toward Atlanta Georgia and eventually got noticed, they stole a train and were chased by the confederates. They eventually got caught and 3X great gramp Sam was hanged. He was one of the first 5 or 10 people in U.S. history to get a medal of honor.
Do you recognize WV as a state or are you one of those people who think Puerto Rico is a state (which they will if congress will get their act together) onstead of WV
The “old states” were just territories. Louisiana purchase became Louisiana territory became Oregon, Dakota, Colorado, Utah territories...most names are the same, the lines just change
Also Lincoln next to a fire with a horn in from Lord of the Rings, Ride of the Rohiirim and when Gondor calls for aid with the beacons, geez you guys are British and it was written by a British
The flag he was using is the ACTUAL flag of the Confederacy. The one most people are familiar with was actually the battle flag of the Confederate army.
Sort of, the Confederate flag we all know now days was featured in the 2nd and 3rd official Confederate flag in the same way our flag has the blue square and stars in the corner
@@becca7989 "My next guess was going to be Kung-Fu Panda" is legitimately the best line in this entire video, and that includes the Oversimplified video within this reaction video. Completely out of nowhere but still an amazing answer!
Ok last comment I promise: you should definitely look up the lancashire cotton famine. Northern England was dependent on slave picked cotton, and while the blockade was on the cotton workers went on strike. The cotton factory owners held meetings supporting the confederacy, while workers held meeting for the union. Eventually organizations in the northern us organized relief ships full of food and medicine for the starving workers of Manchester, as well as a letter of thanks from Lincoln
This might connect with my own British Ancestry. My ancestors came from Kent County and became nobles due to their work in producing cloth and earned the nickname "Clothiers of Kent". I know for a fact that my 2 times great-grandpa supported the South and invested in it financially. Sadly, he spent the family fortune helping them out, he and his family had to move to America, and he died a poor man, which is sad. My great-grandpa went to work to help support the family and eventually joined the US Army. But yeah, your comment makes me wonder if this is why my ancestor was supportive of the South due to him being in the same industry as many Southern plantations were. I ought to ask my aunt more about this subject, she's the family genealogist and did research on our British ancestry.
The Civil War was always about slavery. Lincoln wanted simply to maintain the Union, but the southern states left the Union, because as they wrote themselves was because they believed in slavery and white supremacy. So, them leaving the Union was strictly about slavery.
Exactly... It became a Southern sympathizer thing since the end of the war to claim it was about States’ Rights, but they fail to mention the “States’ Right” in question was... slavery
@@coyotelong4349 interesting enough alot of confederate politicans and veterans created the kkk whom generally carry the rebel flag and would attack people basic on different races, religions, policial ideologies, create jim crow laws, and even infiltrated the federal government dont so yeah there is no excuse support the csa like so many do and the thing is the civil war was pretty much mean less sharecropping came up next basicially a legal slavery the sad truth is the union didnt win the civil war until 1960s and there still are plenty of rebels out there infiltrating the military, police and governments theyre so shameless they allied themselves with nazis
In regards to your question about what the states used to be called. Some of the big chunk of land they had used to just have names like the Louisiana Territory or Indiana Territory. And then as they continued to add in new states that's when they would create the borders and come up with names for them
@@JamesCornwall95 oh definitely. Take away the issue of slavery and we still had issues with the way we treated the natives. I know one way the government has tried to make up for that is if you’re Native American then you’ll have your tuition in university paid for. There’s probably more programs to help them but I don’t know them unfortunately
37:14 a battle not mentioned here is the battle between the confederate ironclad ship Virginia (commonly called by its former name the Merrimack), which attacked vulnerable union ships and was sent to attack Washington. It fought against the union ironclad Monitor, (sent to stop the Merrimack from reaching Washington). Before, the Merrimack only fought wooden sides battleships, which it commonly sunk. Now, for the first time, two iron clad ships would fight each other. In the end, neither ship was able to damage the other, so the battle ended in a draw (though since the Merrimack never got to Washington, I guess it’s technically a union victory). While the battle is today commonly thought of almost as a joke, it had a pretty big effect on history. In London, when the leaders of the British Royal Navy, the largest navy on earth at the time, learned of the battle between the monitor and the Merrimack, they immediately cancelled all their orders for constructing wooden sides battleships; they realized that the age of wooden war ships, which mankind had experienced for thousands of years, had finally ended. Other similar inventions from the civil war include primitive submarines (crank-powered vessels used by the confederates to ram at high speeds into the sides of union ships) and the first United States Air Force (three hot air balloons used to spy on confederate troops).
36:20 Robert E. Lee did not so much read the minds of the Union generals. Lee had been the commandant of the United States military Academy at West. Therefore he had known most of those men for 4 years and knew their strengths and weaknesses.
Regarding families watching on the hill, this also happened back when Boudica was fighting the Romans. In the stories that I found many years ago, the supply wagons and the families ended up blocking her army's escape route. I can't find the source now so that may be conjecture since it was a common practice.
The broadway musical 1776. Theres a song called molasses to rum. During an arguement about slavery they say northerners dont OWN slaves but they certainly are purveyors of them. The ships come into boston.
Oversimplified makes a couple of basic mistakes early in the video...when he talks about Jefferson's anti slavery passages in the Declaration. It was not "fear" of losing souther support for independence, it was a certainty...if the anti slavery language had not been removed, the south would not have voted in favor of the Declaration, and it would have failed. Also, the Founding Fathers were very very aware of the issue they were leaving behind for those who followed. They tried again to address the slavery again in the process of adopting the Constitution, but were only able to make small moves to ensure that it would eventually end one way or another. Sorry if I have already commented on this on one of your other videos. 🖖✌
he also fails to mention there were tens of thousands of slaves in the north..they were just not treated as poorly as those in the south and they could fight for freedom and be heard out by the law...unlike in the south where they could be lynched and no one would bat an eye for no reason...the south was far worse but there were like 9,000 slaves in a northern state at first even after the revolution ..by the start of the civil war there were close to none but still....when america began they used slaves in the north too
The South sent cotton to British factories. The amount of wealth made by the British explains their preference and near full support of the South during the war.
Yup, this war was not fought over slaves it was over federal income taxes. For that exact reason. It was about the money the south made that the northern states didn’t.
27:20 There were different Confederate flags. The one you're probably most familiar with is the stars and bars. The reason 18 to exist is that there needed to be a distinction on the battlefield between one flag and another. It's not easy to tell them apart with an abundance of gun smoke around. Colors me to contrast to make it easy to identify so that troops on each side knew where they were supposed to be so as to avoid confusion.
I don’t know if others talked about this, but 6:15 those large globular sections of the USA weren’t states yet, as to be a state you have to hit a few specific requirements. Those areas were known as territories, and would be whittled down into states as time went on and sections became more populated. As for what they were called a lot of them were given names that were new at the time, ex the Louisiana territory, but those names would eventually be given to states
Those patches of land werent given a name until they became states so basically they were nameless and only defined by what was in them. Also there was a bunch of conditions you had to meet before you became a state .
42:55 The emancipation proclamation freed the slaves only in Confederate States, not the slaves that were held in Kentucky, Maryland and places under Union control. The 13th amendment made slavery illegal. The 14th amendment gave citizenship to African Americans. The 15th amendment guaranteed African Americans the right to vote.
When you asked what the state was named at 6:06 thats just a territory that wasn't a state you were hovering over the Louisiana territory so before areas became a state they were just territories
The Virgin Robert E. Lee: Virginia is my home. The Chad Samuel Phillips Lee: "When I find the word Virginia in my commission I will join the Confederacy."
Bonus fact about the confederate flag: its X design is called a saltire, and is also present in the flags of Scotland and Northern Ireland. Most of the settlers of the mountainous regions of the south were from those places, and the ethnic slur “cracker” meaning a poor white person, is derived from the Irish expression “what’s the craic?”
@@bracejuice7955 wonder why all racial myths support the oppressor and not the oppressed, but I guess that's a question for the oppressed since us white people know we want to make things sound better for ourselves
@@theheadlesslegend I’m not trying to make anything sound better for white people, it’s just a fact that cracker comes from craic. It was originally a word that the rich plantation owners (of aristocratic English stock) used to describe the poor Irish and Scottish settlers of the more mountainous regions of the south
While yes the politicians who voted for secession obviously voted to seceded over slavery it would be ridiculous to think every single person fighting for the south was fighting for that
as a history buff, secession was 99.5% about slavery a very small amount was for other things such as a cultural divide and federal vs state powers. But I just have to mention that quickly because it wasn't 100% slavery.... just mostly
39:03 I mention this in most reactions to this video I’ve seen because I researched this incident as part of my masters thesis (and probably mention it too much). This was known as the Trent Affair, and it’s as close as the U.K. ever got to entering the war on the south’s side. Two confederate diplomats, named Mason and Slidell, evaded the union blockade to go to London and convince the government of PM Lord Palmerston to provide further aid to the confederacy (the Palmerston government was already providing the confederacy with uniforms, guns, ammunition, and even entire battleships for the confederate navy). Mason and Slidell boarded the British mail carrier RMS Trent in Havana. Though the US navy had been told to give up the search if they boarded a British ship, the USS San Jacinto, under the command of Captain Wilkes, tracked down the Trent, fired two warning shots, boarded the ship, and arrested Mason and Slidell. The news of the Trent Affair outraged the British government. Foreign Secretary Lord John Russell (already a staunch confederate sympathizer) pressured Lord Palmerston to seek a declaration of war against the USA. Palmerston sent an additional ten thousand troops to Canada and issued an ultimatum: Mason and Slidell must be released and sent to Britain or there would be war. President Lincoln disliked Mason and Slidell for being slave owners and, much to the chagrin of Secretary of State William Seward, wanted both men to be hanged. Lincoln brought the matter before his cabinet, and when all the cabinet members said they should give in to the British demands and release the diplomats, Lincoln (to Seward’s significant surprise) agreed. When Seward asked the president why he suddenly changed his mind, Lincoln replied “I found I could not construct an argument that would satisfy my own mind. This told me your ground was the correct one” (further evidence that governance is a lost American art). Mason and Slidell were released from prison and put on a British battleship, and with that, the Trent Affair was over. What I took away from this is that Lincoln was probably better than most of our current leaders, since he was able to say “I was wrong” and change his views.
Slavery was a key ingredient of European demand for fabrics (mainly cotton.) But even before the North was beginning to industrialize, the practice was fostered by the British and Spanish governments of their respective colonies.
31:15 yea that story is true that guy McClellan was very proud of himself and didn't respect Lincoln a lot. There are even time where he sent letters to his wife back home calling Pres Lincoln a "coward" who couldn't run a nation.
I live about an hour and a half's drive from Antietam. There's a pretty good ice cream parlor in the town of Sharpsburg there. Gettysburg, the most famous and decisive battle of one of the greatest crises in American history, is the exit I take when I want to get fireworks. Funny thing about Antietam, the south of the battlefield featured a bridge over Antietam Creek that Confederate sharpshooters controlled and the Union needed to take in order to get their troops onto the main battlefield. After a number of units tried and failed, eventually one went after them that recently had their alcohol taken away and once of them asked their commander "Hey, if we take the bridge, can we have our whiskey back?" Burnside responded "Yes! By God, you can have all the whiskey you want!" They took the bridge.
I still consider the Civil War to have been "about" slavery simply because the initial cause of the Secession crisis was the souths paranoia that Lincoln would end slavery, hence why he was initially so hesitant to make the purpose of the war anything more than the preservation of the union. It would corroborate the fears that pushed them tword secession in the first place.
They were like territories, so after they became actual states, they got names. And for the slavery thing, it has always been about slavery, slavery affected their economy yea, but in the end it always did a double back to slavery. Like the state declaring that slavery is a part of their identity...ouch
7:13 I think Alternate History Hub has a video on that, those kinda thought exercises are what his channel specializes in 27:04 There were multiple flags used by the CSA during the war and Oversimplified will shift to the flag in use as he covers each battle
Regarding the plans wrapped around a cigar - it wasn't General Lee himself who'd left the plans. One of his commanders had written an unauthorized duplicate for himself after a 'council of war'. He then accidentally dropped it when they had left the meeting. Exactly why no copies were authorized.
My Great Great Grandfather was a US Navy Officer during the Civil War and in his Journals writes about bringing freed slaves (he calls contraband) North during the War.
When considering the confederate battle flag think about who fought in the war. Was it the rich land / slave owning aristocrats? Or was it the poor white southern farmers with no slaves fighting off perceived northern invasion? I think for the people that fly the confederate battle flag, it has nothing to do with slavery and more a acknowledgement of a rebellious and bloody scar.
You can't make that distinction anymore than you can say German people waving the N@zi flag are just "celebrating the average German soldier in WW2". Not saying the two are equally awful or the same, but the Confederate ideology revolved around the preservation of slavery, and poor white southern farmers knew and supported this (mostly because they believed there would be a slave rebellion and extermination or subjugation of whites if slavery was abolished). You can't sanitize history by saying a symbol isn't meant to represent an awful ideology it was clearly meant to represent.
Not everyone in the north was motivated to end slavery, and not everyone in the south owned slaves (most did not) or believed in slavery. For many people the issue was the right of states to have their own laws, or to have an all powerful national government. The disagreement continues to this day.
If you want to learn a lot about the civil war, " atun shei" is a great channel that debunks a lot of pro-south myths and arguments that I've sure you heard or been told. His videos are also pretty funny as well
The confederate flag pictured in the Oversimplified vid is the national flag of the confederate states, the flag with the diagonal cross full of stars was the battle flag of the confederate. It was the one carried by the flag barers on the battlefield. Later in the 1960's it was used by Southerners as a symbol to uppose de-segragation. It is popular for many Southerners today that are of that generation, (boomers and the generation before them), and is also used by the Ku Klux Klan. Though to be fair, those twits use the American flag just as much.
The underground railroad was a very big thing in this part of NY. We have lots of old houses with the hidden rooms. John Brown was for this part of NY as well you can visit his old farm.
Texases old state name was Tejas a believe, which meant friend in Mexican mean friend or ally (Because you asked about old state names) Also Texas is the only state to have 6 flags The United States The republic of Texas Spain Mexico The Confederation And France I am also hoping oversimplified will to a video on the Texas revolution, and the Mexican American war About the confederate flag, I haven’t seen a single confederate flag flown in Texas, and recently I think Mississippi changed their flag because it had the confederate flag in it About the bloodiest battle thing, it was a percentage thing. As in how many Americans could have died at these events vs how many actually did
@@rbeck3200tb40 Yeah, Texas was derived from the Caddo (a Texan Native American tribe) word, taysha, which does mean friend. So you're close, Firestorm, but off. Tejas IS a Spanish word, but it was how the Spanish called that Caddo word. Also I do hope someday Oversimplified does cover the Texas revolution.
For the south it was very definitely about slavery. They literally said that. And i'm glad Oversimplified took the time to prove that. But the northern population would never have accepted to send their sons and fathers to die to free slaves. Had Lincoln even implied that, he would instantly have lost all support for the war and lost the Union. That's why he was so careful to make it about the Union only. Oversimplified also failed to mention that the escaped slaves who were "put to work" were of course hired and paid and their also fled families taken care of. Eventually. Was a bit messy at first
The South was told for years that the Civil War was about state’s rights because of the North’s stance on slavery. Since most Northerners didn’t oppose slavery and benefited from it, if roundaboutly. Despite the fact that slavery WAS the main cause. Also the South was quite bitter about the period after the war. Since only a third or so of southerners had slaves. The rest didn’t truly understand why they were being punished. And it created a lot of bitterness. Especially when you consider that the greater portion of Hate Crimes committed in the last twenty years have occurred in the North.
40:14 this is true. Lee wrapped his plans around cigars and gave them to messengers on horseback to deliver to his officers. One such cigar fell out of a messenger’s saddle bag while riding through a field, where it was discovered by union scouts.
The rectangular flag that everyone just thinks of as the Confederate flag is actually the Battle Flag of Tennessee. The Battle Flag of Virginia is almost the same, it is just square instead of rectangular. I only learned this recently myself. 🖖💯✌
I'm a native Tennessean lived here most of my life and I've never heard what is now called the Confederate flag or what sometimes called the stars in bars to be called a Tennessee battle flag. I know there were multiple battle flags used during the civil War different states had their own different regiments had their own. but I was always told that that particular design originated in Virginia and it was copied through other states.
I've seen this a lot and never noticed Batman in the background before. In knowing his humor it's probably cause Batman stands for 'justice' and he is the 'Dark Knight' and a dark night(dim halfmoon) brought justice for Lincoln's client. He might be a Colonel Sanders stand in but that was the fashion at the time. All that to say idk for sure so it could go either way really. But the thing with Lincoln blowing the horns of war in front of the fire is an old Greek(maybe Spartan) tradition I think?? Back in WW2 they MAY have never seen a plane before the war. They weren't that common. And ya they had balls of steel but they might not have been aware just how destructive one would be if it crashed. Airplane safety awareness has taken along to develop.
It's a free country. Flying the flag of traitors wouldn't make you super popular with your neighbors though. I'm guessing it would generally be people from the South who moved North.
To answer your question about the old state names, that area you specified was originally part of the french owned land in America, Thomas Jefferson bought the entire Middle third of the current continental us from napoleon (called the Louisiana purchase) and the whole territory was technically called Louisiana, and it was the single largest land PURCHASE in history, as well as being the best deal for a land purchase in history it cost 15 million then (roughly 3 cents per acre) which would be $393,992,920.35 today (roughly 79 cents per acre)
Regarding Lee's battle plans, there would have been multiple copies that would have been sent by horse to his many commanders. They weren't battle plans per se. They were more like marching orders, but since they detailed the movements of many units it could read like a battle plan. If you Google "special order 191" you can read what they actually said.
At 25:20 you were talking about your relatives watching the planes dogfight each other, where I live in the United States our air force will practice dogfighting over our area, and it’s actually really entertaining to watch it’s almost like a they are dancing in the sky, we also can watch them at night which can be really cool as well when you see them launch flares. Sonic booms however are quite annoying though.
The U.S. has a political system called federalism, which means that the federal government makes decisions about some matters and the state governments others. We Americans have been arguing about which should be in charge and when since our Constitution was written in 1787. There is an idea called nullification, which was popular in the South before the Civil War and is occasionally heard from to this day, despite having no legal basis. To oversimplify it, nullification means that any state can refuse to follow any federal law it disagrees with. Congress would still be able to pass laws with majority votes, but unanimous votes would be required to ensure laws would be enforced nationally. The federal government would be incapable of doing anything significant, similar to the United Nations Security Council and the veto power of the five permanent members. In hindsight, it seems to me that the southern states seceded as much from fear of what the majority northerners would have the federal government do, as they did from anger at what had already been done. The South had controlled much of the federal government in the 1850s, until they lost the presidential election of 1860. People with extreme wealth and power tend to be incapable of sharing; many have the emotional maturity of toddlers and cannot share their toys. The slave-owning aristocrats of the South could not tolerate losing anything, and so they started a war they should have known they could not win, thereby causing them to lose everything.
Actually, on the "contraband" issue, that was in some cases not in all at first, as various military commanders who came across slaves that were fleeing north during the way each had different views on what should be done. However, once there was an official policy, ALL of these slaves that fled to Union territory were then considered by the Union to be free. There were other issues of course, as there were way more of them that began coming north than the Union army was prepared for, and yes some were put to work, but many others ended up receiving aid from volunteer civilian groups as well. So, over-oversimplified on that part of it, but hey, that's the point of the video. hehe
When new land was acquired by the USA, it started as unorganized territory, then would become organized territory, then later a state, but usually the state would occupy only part of what had formerly been the territory with the same name. At the 9:08 mark in the video, the map as of 1854 is shown, with Nebraska Territory and Kansas Territory marked, and Minnesota Territory to their northeast. Parts of these had previously been parts of other territories that became states but left parts of themselves unorganized. After Minnesota and Nebraska became states, parts of their territories would become Dakota Territory, and later the states of North and South Dakota.
Lincoln was the first President from the new Republican Party. The Democratic Party prevailed in the south for another century and enforced racial segregation, and did not align very well with members of the same party in the north. In the 1960s-70s, the Republican Party took advantage of this, and took on more of an anti-black stance. So in many ways, the parties switched positions, and many southerners switched from the Democratic to the Republican Party. Party rivalry prior to Lincoln was mainly between the Democratic and Whig parties. Washington aligned with no party, but relied on his unanimous popularity.
The Flag being used in this video was the main Confederate flag flown during the short lived Confederacy. After the war (and after the post-war reconstruction period) when Jim Crow laws started to pop up (segregation), southerners decided they wanted to revitalize their “heritage” and essentially send a message to African Americans that they were in charge, not them. There were numerous flags flown in battle in the civil war, but southerners during Jim Crow opted for the Confederate Battle Flag that most people are familiar with.
The giant piece of territory you refer to around 6:00 was called Unorganized Territory. It was eventually organized prior to the war into smaller units usually named for a state that would eventually exist there. And no, for many states it was very clear that they should or should permit slavery, because their climate would dictate whether or not they could grow the cash crops needed to make slaveholding profitable.
Those large chunks were territories before they were cut up into individual states. The Confederate flag's design changed throughout the war, just like how the American flag changed throughout the Revolutionary War. If you rewatch the OverSimplified video on the American Revolutionary War, you can see the flag change.
The Confederate flag was originally the flag you were asking about at 26:53. But they changed it after a short time because it looked way too much like the American flag for their liking.
The Southern slave plantation was a continuation of the British Crown Colony system. The southern states (from Virginia down to Georgia) were originally settled in earnest as business ventures of the British Crown and nobility, specifically to grow cash crops like cotton, sugar and tobacco in great quantities for resale in Europe.
Each tower at the World Trade Center in NYC on 9/11 had thousands of people in it. Plus there were smaller buildings in the entire complex as well with hundreds of more people. About 2900 people died on 9/11 in NYC, Washington, DC and in the plane crash in Pennsylvania. I lost an uncle that day in one of the towers. The Civil War is the deadliest war in US history.
If you look at a map of the United States, you can see that for the most part as you go further west the state borders are mostly just straight lines because they were just drawing lines on a map. More eastern states had their borders formed naturally
Not sure if someone already answered this but at 6:15 that technically wasn't a state it was several different territories I don't know the names of all of them. The largest was called "the unorganized territories" if I remember correctly. They were part of America but they didn't have any people in congress and didn't have a governor. There's also some prerequisites in order to become a state.
The confederate 'Stars & Bars' flag was first created in March of 1861. It didn't appear on the battle field until November 1861 (it had to first be accepted by individual confederate states, and that took time). The south (confederates) persisted in using the U.S. flag during many of the first battles and long after the war had begun because many in the south still had a sense of ownership of a flag that had hitherto meant as much to them (as 'true' Americans) as it did ton anyone in the north. The actions depicted in the video reveals the early '3 Bar' flag that was not fully replaced by the 'Stars & Bars' confederate flag until late in 1861.
A word of advice. If you have questions about the American civil war, the last person you should trust on the topic is an American. That event still causes screaming matches at dinner tables to this day. Everyone (myself included) has a pretty strong bias one way or the other. Trying to get full truth from one of us is an exercise in futility in my opinion.
Mark 40:40. I know that finding war plans like that is a big deal. But, using tobacco stuff for storage is a common enough thing that happens. In the 1970s, when pollution was common, I used to pick up cigarette packet litter, because people would store cash and other items in them, but somehow forget that they did so, as they littered the landscape around them with their other waste. 💵
At 6:02, the areas in question were not states yet. They were territories of the U.S. They were divided into smaller pieces when they became states, and these pieces didn't all join the union at once. The slur "Uncle Tom" does come from the book Uncle Tom's Cabin. The character of Uncle Tom in the book was a house slave (i.e. he worked in the house rather than in the fields, which gave him a higher status). House slaves were commonly seen as servile, which is how the expression got its meaning. However, in the book, Uncle Tom was a rather heroic character - he refused to tell the slaveowner Simon Legree where an escaped slave had gone, for which Legree beat Uncle Tom to death. The U.S. has always had a two-party system because of our electoral processes, in which winning 51% of the vote in a state or district gives the party 100% of the representation in that state or district (this is often called "first past the post"). But the parties weren't always Democratic and Republican. From 1828 through 1854 the two parties were the Democrats and the Whigs. The Whig Party broke up over the issue of slavery, and the Republican Party arose in its place. The first Republican to run for president was John C. Frémont in 1856. He lost to Democrat James Buchanan. It was Buchanan who was president when the southern states started to secede, and while he said he was opposed to it, he also insisted he didn't have the authority to do anything about it. Others have pointed out the difference between the Confederate flag and the Battle Flag of Tennessee. As for what it means today, it's a symbol of white supremacy, not slavery per se (slavery is a dead issue). Some people who display this flag insist it's a symbol of southern heritage, but really, that's not what it means. And I'd say that today most southerners don't approve of its use. A big reason Lincoln was cautious about making the war about slavery is that he needed the support of the four slaveholding border states that hadn't seceded (Maryland, Delaware, Kentucky, and Missouri). He also needed the support of northerners who didn't believe slavery was sufficient cause to fight a war. If he'd started using black soldiers early in the war, it might have cost him so much politically that the Union would have lost. So he delayed this issue as long as he could. Lincoln was walking a tightrope between competing interests throughout the war. Politics is the art of the possible. But in the end, Lincoln not only saved the Union (which was hit original stated war aim), he also made sure that slavery was abolished. If he'd made the war about slavery from the beginning, he might have accomplished neither. The Emancipation Proclamation was an odd thing. It freed only the slaves in the rebel territories, not in the four border states I mentioned above. Lincoln's constitutional justification for this was that the slaves, as property, could be considered war collateral. Lincoln was concerned that those who had been freed would be returned to slavery when the war ended, which is why he (and many others) passed the 13th amendment to the constitution, which completely outlawed slavery.
If you notice the size of most of the middle states they were formed on the calculations of the amount of people who might move there, as the land becomes less oroductive the states were bigger.. they were interested ib fairness. There were some changes in states such as Colorado Idaho and Utah.California and Texas were short lived countries.
8:30. There are some requirements that a territory has to fulfill to become a state. One of the biggest I think is population. I think there is also a vote from the people in that territory for statehood.
The flag Oversimplified is using is the official flag of the Confederate States. The controversial flag that you know of is the battle flag of the Army of Tennessee, the army under General Braxton Bragg.
Technically, the Virginia version of the Battle FLag is square...the rectangular version was used by Tennessee. I only recently found this out myself. ✌
@@iKvetch558 Right you are!
was searching to see if anyone commented this because i was about to lmao
The battle flag was chosen because the national flag, known as the Stars and Bars as depicted in Over Simplified, was often confused at a distance in the summer haze and smoke of battle with the U.S. flag due to their similarity.
The battle flag was also used in the 2and and 3rd confederate flag though so not completely separate.
The confederate flag most people think of is the confederate battle flag, not the official flag
Yeah, the actual confederate flag looked too similar to the US flag so they created the battle flag to avoid confusion in battle.
The rectangular flag that everyone just thinks of as the Confederate flag is actually the Battle Flag of Tennessee. The Battle Flag of Virginia is almost the same, it is just square instead of rectangular. I only learned this recently myself.
Though of course to just throw everyone off, they end up putting that standard in the corner of the Stainless and Bloodstained Banners. They couldn't decide on any flag
Well it's more than that. The confederacy was new and so you had all sorts of proud state flags. I think the stars and bars was a virginia invention? Correct me if I'm wrong (edit: Just saw your comment about Tennessee)
It was greed brother.. Eli Whitney cotton gin made the demand for cotton to be reached...which the demand came from u guys and the french....
Those large pieces of land were just territoies that were pretty sparcely populated at that time withe the majority being native americans and some white settlers who were just starting to come in also the big one youre looking at is actually called the dakotah territory.
Dakota Territory was created in 1861, and then was divided in two, becoming the states of North Dakota and South Dakota, in 1889.
The territorial system was created at the conclusion of the War of Independence, when the US also acquired the "Old" Northwest (what we now think of as the industrial Midwest or the Great Lakes region). This land was administered by the Federal Government but was available for creating new states when the population of a territory reached a certain level. Frequently the territories were subdivided into smaller territories and then upgraded to states. This process happened repeatedly as US acquired Louisiana and then the territories of the Mexican cession. It bought Florida and Alaska and they were largely unchanged in their size or their scope: similarly, it saw independent states of Texas and Hawaii annexed and also retained in size and scope (tho Texas, which is huge and populous) retains the right to subdivide itself into as many as five states. The intent was to provide more slave states and maintain the balance of votes in the Senate (which was the reason for the equality in the number of states during the period 1820 to 1850, when California was admitted without a slave state to offset its two senators).
Don’t apologize for pausing. The whole point of watching these reactions is to get your input. Please pause to your heart’s content.
Exactly. If we wanted to watch the video without pausing, we would just watch the original video. It's all about your thoughts.
Yes but pausing every 30th seconds is annoying af and since the girl is there she talks over the narrator and often the guy is pausing the video comment then restart it and praise again 2 seconds later again.
i wish they went back during the republican party and lincoln mention early on cause they missed an important 15 seconds talking about queen whoever....smdh
@@garbageday587 stop watching reaction videos.
It wasn’t just the North. The southern slave states supplied 70% of the worlds cotton at that time
They were basically the oil tycoons of their day.
Where the hell was egypt??
Yep.
yeah..the reason the south cared so much about slavery was it was their economy...hard to get over it...yeah change slavery so the south basically has to start from scratch and whites have to work?..its jarring as a sudden change for like 70% of people
@@razkable 95% of current day America *never* owned slaves. What you mean to be outraged about is the 23% of the south that worked the fields that supplied 70% of the *entire* planets cotton.
Before a state would become a state, they were usually incorporated territories. A few like Texas and California were short lived Republics, Hawaii was a Kingdom, and Alaska was a Russian territory.
I didn't know that about Hawaii 😳
@@JamesCornwall95 well, Hawaii was a territory for about a century before it was incorporated as a state, but it was indeed a kingdom. Look up King Kamehameha I. And on the subject of territories, one topic of conversation that sometimes appears in American politics is whether the American territory of Puerto Rico should become the 51st state.
Hawaii is home to the nation's only Royal Palace.
I had a US and the Pacific research class as one of my final classes before i graduated in 2020. I wrote my paper about the Hawai'i-US relations.
Technically, Hawai'i is an illegal state. The US annexed the republic that was formed with the overthrow of Liliuokalani in 1893, and then it was given statehood in 1959. But the native people never got a chance to vote for self-determination (in 1893 OR 1959) which is something we like to believe in here in the US.
The native Hawai'ians never voted for a republic nor to join the US in 1898 so anything after that period is illegal. But no one is going to enforce it
Vermont was also an independent republic before becoming the 14th state.
The primary reason that the South seceded was slavery, the primary goal of the North was the reunification of the USA, and it was the case that ending slavery helped that cause. The Civil War WAS about slavery because the war doesn't happen if the South doesn't secede over slavery.
Exactly, like I hate it when people try and say it wasn’t, it just sounds like southern propaganda at some point. More then half a million Americans died in that war and to try and twist the reasons for why many of them fought is pretty messed up.
@@Jklopoppcorn It goes both ways as well. There are people who try and claim that every soldier that fought for the Confederacy fought because they supported slavery, which is just as incorrect.
@@emperorofrome692 and then you get the sanctimony of the Chronologically superior PC crowd.
@@SGlitz which is in no way as bad as being kkk-apologists.
@@Souledex Apologists for Democrats?. Yeah, that's so 2021.
30:47 they were "put to work" by the Union as regular employees, not slaves.
No, the issue of slavery was not a strawman in any way. It is directly what the war was entirely about. The Southern states seceded because they felt that the "institution of slavery" was under attack by the North. They stated this very clearly and in detail in their articles of secession. Slavery in the US was an economic issue. Slaves were used as a free source of labor allowing for higher production and cheaper products. This benefitted the North as you mentioned, as well as Europe. The South didn't just benefit, they had become completely dependent on it. It's true that the North was interested in keeping the union together more so than ending slavery at the start of the war, but slavery was the reason that the union was not together to begin with. It's not a separate issue. There was also a growing abolitionist movement in the North, many of whom did see slavery as both an economic and moral issue. That growing number of abolitionists were starting to elect politicians who were echoing their criticisms of slavery, which is a large part of why the South felt threatened.
Your comparison to people working in Chinese factories was actually spot on. True, they aren't slaves, but they do work long hours in bad conditions for very little pay. Their government doesn't see an issue with this. Meanwhile, we all buy the products and turn a blind eye to it because we don't want the price of things to go up while also saying how morally outraged we are that people would have to work in such conditions. It's very similar.
it was pure agreesion of the north against the south
@@garythornbury9793 meanwhile the South illegally seceded AND shot first at Fort Sumter lmao. Clearly the South was the aggressor
@@BobPantsSpongeSquare97 yes
States had laws surrounding slavery and the slave trade. The US Constitution clearly defines the powers of the Federal Government and nowhere did it say they could overrule states laws surrounding slave trade. In fact the US Constitution specifically says that states rights override the Federal Governments rights if the US Constitution doesn’t specifically regulate a certain area such as the slave trade. State laws made slavery possible.
There’s a reason why oversimplified only showed two states official secession papers and only a couple of sentences that happen to mention slavery.. a lot of other states were concerned with the power of the federal government. Specifically since what they were trying to do flew straight in the face of the founding documents.
This really was a battle over states rights. Sure.. some wanted to keep their slavery. Most probably did in fact. But it was a slippery slope to the states having no rights to govern themselves as our founding documents clearly said each state had a right to do. Saying it was ONLY about the slave trade really is oversimplified.
Ps- according the Declaration of Independence itself, states have a right to leave.. when their government no longer represents them.. the North didn’t put Jefferson Davis on trial for fear the jury would find secession to be LEGAL ffs.. and if you read the Declaration.. it IS legal for states to leave.
@@topherd1011 states rights to what, m8?
And how is outlawing slavery a "slippery slope to states having no rights to govern themselves"? Its _SLAVERY_ .
I can honestly say I thoroughly enjoyed this video more than the first time !
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Same, which is why I'm oddly obsessed with watching reactions to this channel. You "get it" now lol
The flag you were talking about at 27:00 wasn't the national flag of the confederacy, the one shown in the video was the right one (at least for that year, they went through a lot of designs). Your thinking of the naval jack and/or the confederate battle flag.
Civil War history is always interesting, I have several ancestors who fought on both sides. One of the cooler stories is my 3X great grandpa Samuel Slavens who was a part of the Andrews Raiders. They snuck into confederate territory, some 200 miles toward Atlanta Georgia and eventually got noticed, they stole a train and were chased by the confederates. They eventually got caught and 3X great gramp Sam was hanged. He was one of the first 5 or 10 people in U.S. history to get a medal of honor.
@@austinh953 Yeah able to digest it so much more effectively 💪🏼
Do you recognize WV as a state or are you one of those people who think Puerto Rico is a state (which they will if congress will get their act together) onstead of WV
Dude the disappointment in your face when she said “The Last Samurai” made me die of laughter
The “old states” were just territories. Louisiana purchase became Louisiana territory became Oregon, Dakota, Colorado, Utah territories...most names are the same, the lines just change
Just so you know the line is not made up for comedy in the video. The line "I didn't lose, I merely failed to win." is a direct quote from McCellen.
Also Lincoln next to a fire with a horn in from Lord of the Rings, Ride of the Rohiirim and when Gondor calls for aid with the beacons, geez you guys are British and it was written by a British
The flag he was using is the ACTUAL flag of the Confederacy. The one most people are familiar with was actually the battle flag of the Confederate army.
The battle flag of the army of Northern Virginia*
Sort of, the Confederate flag we all know now days was featured in the 2nd and 3rd official Confederate flag in the same way our flag has the blue square and stars in the corner
"The Last Samurai" I'm dead.
I tried 😂
Great movie
@@becca7989 "My next guess was going to be Kung-Fu Panda" is legitimately the best line in this entire video, and that includes the Oversimplified video within this reaction video. Completely out of nowhere but still an amazing answer!
Ok last comment I promise: you should definitely look up the lancashire cotton famine. Northern England was dependent on slave picked cotton, and while the blockade was on the cotton workers went on strike. The cotton factory owners held meetings supporting the confederacy, while workers held meeting for the union. Eventually organizations in the northern us organized relief ships full of food and medicine for the starving workers of Manchester, as well as a letter of thanks from Lincoln
This might connect with my own British Ancestry. My ancestors came from Kent County and became nobles due to their work in producing cloth and earned the nickname "Clothiers of Kent". I know for a fact that my 2 times great-grandpa supported the South and invested in it financially. Sadly, he spent the family fortune helping them out, he and his family had to move to America, and he died a poor man, which is sad. My great-grandpa went to work to help support the family and eventually joined the US Army. But yeah, your comment makes me wonder if this is why my ancestor was supportive of the South due to him being in the same industry as many Southern plantations were. I ought to ask my aunt more about this subject, she's the family genealogist and did research on our British ancestry.
The Civil War was always about slavery. Lincoln wanted simply to maintain the Union, but the southern states left the Union, because as they wrote themselves was because they believed in slavery and white supremacy. So, them leaving the Union was strictly about slavery.
Exactly... It became a Southern sympathizer thing since the end of the war to claim it was about States’ Rights, but they fail to mention the “States’ Right” in question was... slavery
@@coyotelong4349 interesting enough alot of confederate politicans and veterans created the kkk whom generally carry the rebel flag and would attack people basic on different races, religions, policial ideologies, create jim crow laws, and even infiltrated the federal government dont so yeah there is no excuse support the csa like so many do and the thing is the civil war was pretty much mean less sharecropping came up next basicially a legal slavery the sad truth is the union didnt win the civil war until 1960s and there still are plenty of rebels out there infiltrating the military, police and governments theyre so shameless they allied themselves with nazis
sorry your wrong
@@garythornbury9793 if you believe that then you should catch up on American history
@@shanewoody4232 roflmao--you need to learn it was about money
Love the banter between you guys on all your vids
Much appreciated bro 💪🏼😂
In regards to your question about what the states used to be called. Some of the big chunk of land they had used to just have names like the Louisiana Territory or Indiana Territory. And then as they continued to add in new states that's when they would create the borders and come up with names for them
Yeah I bet there was a tonne of natives aswel right
@@JamesCornwall95 oh definitely. Take away the issue of slavery and we still had issues with the way we treated the natives. I know one way the government has tried to make up for that is if you’re Native American then you’ll have your tuition in university paid for. There’s probably more programs to help them but I don’t know them unfortunately
Napoleon sold us the Louisiana Territory in 1803 for $15 million.
As a Texan I can confirm we love barging in!! Love the vids, keep it up!!👍
You just gotta love Texas 💪🏼😂
37:14 a battle not mentioned here is the battle between the confederate ironclad ship Virginia (commonly called by its former name the Merrimack), which attacked vulnerable union ships and was sent to attack Washington. It fought against the union ironclad Monitor, (sent to stop the Merrimack from reaching Washington). Before, the Merrimack only fought wooden sides battleships, which it commonly sunk. Now, for the first time, two iron clad ships would fight each other. In the end, neither ship was able to damage the other, so the battle ended in a draw (though since the Merrimack never got to Washington, I guess it’s technically a union victory). While the battle is today commonly thought of almost as a joke, it had a pretty big effect on history. In London, when the leaders of the British Royal Navy, the largest navy on earth at the time, learned of the battle between the monitor and the Merrimack, they immediately cancelled all their orders for constructing wooden sides battleships; they realized that the age of wooden war ships, which mankind had experienced for thousands of years, had finally ended.
Other similar inventions from the civil war include primitive submarines (crank-powered vessels used by the confederates to ram at high speeds into the sides of union ships) and the first United States Air Force (three hot air balloons used to spy on confederate troops).
Also primitive Zeppelins where used to survey the battlefields. thou not very useful since communications were still in the stone age.
36:20 Robert E. Lee did not so much read the minds of the Union generals. Lee had been the commandant of the United States military Academy at West. Therefore he had known most of those men for 4 years and knew their strengths and weaknesses.
She is killing me with the movie fails!!! :P Love ya guys keep up the vids! Thought about doing a series reaction like Archer?
Honestly I’m so bad at remembering movies 😂
Regarding families watching on the hill, this also happened back when Boudica was fighting the Romans. In the stories that I found many years ago, the supply wagons and the families ended up blocking her army's escape route. I can't find the source now so that may be conjecture since it was a common practice.
The broadway musical 1776. Theres a song called molasses to rum. During an arguement about slavery they say northerners dont OWN slaves but they certainly are purveyors of them. The ships come into boston.
That is the flag of the Confederates. The one you’re thinking of was a battle flag for the state of Virginia
Has no one else noticed Tom Hanks coming off the assembly line at 3:53?
Oversimplified makes a couple of basic mistakes early in the video...when he talks about Jefferson's anti slavery passages in the Declaration. It was not "fear" of losing souther support for independence, it was a certainty...if the anti slavery language had not been removed, the south would not have voted in favor of the Declaration, and it would have failed. Also, the Founding Fathers were very very aware of the issue they were leaving behind for those who followed. They tried again to address the slavery again in the process of adopting the Constitution, but were only able to make small moves to ensure that it would eventually end one way or another. Sorry if I have already commented on this on one of your other videos. 🖖✌
he also fails to mention there were tens of thousands of slaves in the north..they were just not treated as poorly as those in the south and they could fight for freedom and be heard out by the law...unlike in the south where they could be lynched and no one would bat an eye for no reason...the south was far worse but there were like 9,000 slaves in a northern state at first even after the revolution ..by the start of the civil war there were close to none but still....when america began they used slaves in the north too
The South sent cotton to British factories. The amount of wealth made by the British explains their preference and near full support of the South during the war.
Yup, this war was not fought over slaves it was over federal income taxes. For that exact reason. It was about the money the south made that the northern states didn’t.
27:20 There were different Confederate flags. The one you're probably most familiar with is the stars and bars. The reason 18 to exist is that there needed to be a distinction on the battlefield between one flag and another. It's not easy to tell them apart with an abundance of gun smoke around. Colors me to contrast to make it easy to identify so that troops on each side knew where they were supposed to be so as to avoid confusion.
I don’t know if others talked about this, but 6:15 those large globular sections of the USA weren’t states yet, as to be a state you have to hit a few specific requirements. Those areas were known as territories, and would be whittled down into states as time went on and sections became more populated. As for what they were called a lot of them were given names that were new at the time, ex the Louisiana territory, but those names would eventually be given to states
Those patches of land werent given a name until they became states so basically they were nameless and only defined by what was in them. Also there was a bunch of conditions you had to meet before you became a state .
Ahhh right I thought as much ! Thanks man !
Wrong. Those "patches" of land were called territories and indeed had names such as the Dakota Territory.
@@btube2006 yep ur right I forgot they initially just used territories to mark them
42:55 The emancipation proclamation freed the slaves only in Confederate States, not the slaves that were held in Kentucky, Maryland and places under Union control. The 13th amendment made slavery illegal. The 14th amendment gave citizenship to African Americans. The 15th amendment guaranteed African Americans the right to vote.
When you asked what the state was named at 6:06 thats just a territory that wasn't a state you were hovering over the Louisiana territory so before areas became a state they were just territories
America was never going to lose to Mexico in the Mexican-American war. America was growing giant with European emerging industrialism, Mexico wasn't.
Mexico also had terrible stability
@@beyou1813 It STILL has terrible stability.
@@filthycasual8187 what county has good stability at this time?
21:13 ik you havent seen LOTR for years, but it KILLED me hearin that 😂
"The Last Samurai!" LOL
The Virgin Robert E. Lee: Virginia is my home.
The Chad Samuel Phillips Lee: "When I find the word Virginia in my commission I will join the Confederacy."
He better have.
Bonus fact about the confederate flag: its X design is called a saltire, and is also present in the flags of Scotland and Northern Ireland. Most of the settlers of the mountainous regions of the south were from those places, and the ethnic slur “cracker” meaning a poor white person, is derived from the Irish expression “what’s the craic?”
Cracker comes from "Whip cracker" u tripping cuz both words don't even sound similar
@@theheadlesslegend nope, craic is pronounced like crack, the “whip cracker” thing is some bs from the 60’s/70’s, like so many racial myths
@@bracejuice7955 wonder why all racial myths support the oppressor and not the oppressed, but I guess that's a question for the oppressed since us white people know we want to make things sound better for ourselves
@@theheadlesslegend I’m not trying to make anything sound better for white people, it’s just a fact that cracker comes from craic. It was originally a word that the rich plantation owners (of aristocratic English stock) used to describe the poor Irish and Scottish settlers of the more mountainous regions of the south
While yes the politicians who voted for secession obviously voted to seceded over slavery it would be ridiculous to think every single person fighting for the south was fighting for that
Just like every person who voted for Trump...oh wait.... :)
@@SGlitz im sorry your so brainwashed ill.pray for you
@@dukerollo1116 gee, I was thinking very same thing about YOU. A mind is terrible thing to waste. Praying for you.
@@SGlitz this from the side that voted for a potato.
@@ryeguy7941 this spuds for you
as a history buff, secession was 99.5% about slavery a very small amount was for other things such as a cultural divide and federal vs state powers. But I just have to mention that quickly because it wasn't 100% slavery.... just mostly
State power to decide that their citizens could own slaves. It was 100% about slavery.
Thanks guys, great job, now I'm gonna watch part 2!
39:03 I mention this in most reactions to this video I’ve seen because I researched this incident as part of my masters thesis (and probably mention it too much). This was known as the Trent Affair, and it’s as close as the U.K. ever got to entering the war on the south’s side. Two confederate diplomats, named Mason and Slidell, evaded the union blockade to go to London and convince the government of PM Lord Palmerston to provide further aid to the confederacy (the Palmerston government was already providing the confederacy with uniforms, guns, ammunition, and even entire battleships for the confederate navy). Mason and Slidell boarded the British mail carrier RMS Trent in Havana. Though the US navy had been told to give up the search if they boarded a British ship, the USS San Jacinto, under the command of Captain Wilkes, tracked down the Trent, fired two warning shots, boarded the ship, and arrested Mason and Slidell.
The news of the Trent Affair outraged the British government. Foreign Secretary Lord John Russell (already a staunch confederate sympathizer) pressured Lord Palmerston to seek a declaration of war against the USA. Palmerston sent an additional ten thousand troops to Canada and issued an ultimatum: Mason and Slidell must be released and sent to Britain or there would be war.
President Lincoln disliked Mason and Slidell for being slave owners and, much to the chagrin of Secretary of State William Seward, wanted both men to be hanged. Lincoln brought the matter before his cabinet, and when all the cabinet members said they should give in to the British demands and release the diplomats, Lincoln (to Seward’s significant surprise) agreed. When Seward asked the president why he suddenly changed his mind, Lincoln replied “I found I could not construct an argument that would satisfy my own mind. This told me your ground was the correct one” (further evidence that governance is a lost American art). Mason and Slidell were released from prison and put on a British battleship, and with that, the Trent Affair was over.
What I took away from this is that Lincoln was probably better than most of our current leaders, since he was able to say “I was wrong” and change his views.
Slavery was a key ingredient of European demand for fabrics (mainly cotton.) But even before the North was beginning to industrialize, the practice was fostered by the British and Spanish governments of their respective colonies.
31:15 yea that story is true that guy McClellan was very proud of himself and didn't respect Lincoln a lot. There are even time where he sent letters to his wife back home calling Pres Lincoln a "coward" who couldn't run a nation.
I live about an hour and a half's drive from Antietam. There's a pretty good ice cream parlor in the town of Sharpsburg there. Gettysburg, the most famous and decisive battle of one of the greatest crises in American history, is the exit I take when I want to get fireworks.
Funny thing about Antietam, the south of the battlefield featured a bridge over Antietam Creek that Confederate sharpshooters controlled and the Union needed to take in order to get their troops onto the main battlefield. After a number of units tried and failed, eventually one went after them that recently had their alcohol taken away and once of them asked their commander "Hey, if we take the bridge, can we have our whiskey back?" Burnside responded "Yes! By God, you can have all the whiskey you want!" They took the bridge.
I still consider the Civil War to have been "about" slavery simply because the initial cause of the Secession crisis was the souths paranoia that Lincoln would end slavery, hence why he was initially so hesitant to make the purpose of the war anything more than the preservation of the union. It would corroborate the fears that pushed them tword secession in the first place.
She is so adorable on these vids. You guys do a great job.
Although in most maps the southern states are shown red (which is associated with the Republican party) they were actually Democratic.
Good catch there.
They were, however, conservative so the present coloration is still representative of their ideology.
5:55 This wasn't a state at the time, this was a territory. It was eventually carved up into states.
They were like territories, so after they became actual states, they got names. And for the slavery thing, it has always been about slavery, slavery affected their economy yea, but in the end it always did a double back to slavery. Like the state declaring that slavery is a part of their identity...ouch
7:13 I think Alternate History Hub has a video on that, those kinda thought exercises are what his channel specializes in
27:04 There were multiple flags used by the CSA during the war and Oversimplified will shift to the flag in use as he covers each battle
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Regarding the plans wrapped around a cigar - it wasn't General Lee himself who'd left the plans. One of his commanders had written an unauthorized duplicate for himself after a 'council of war'. He then accidentally dropped it when they had left the meeting. Exactly why no copies were authorized.
Y'all had it right the first time, it was Joe Pesci in Goodfellas
My Great Great Grandfather was a US Navy Officer during the Civil War and in his Journals writes about bringing freed slaves (he calls contraband) North during the War.
When considering the confederate battle flag think about who fought in the war.
Was it the rich land / slave owning aristocrats? Or was it the poor white southern farmers with no slaves fighting off perceived northern invasion?
I think for the people that fly the confederate battle flag, it has nothing to do with slavery and more a acknowledgement of a rebellious and bloody scar.
You can't make that distinction anymore than you can say German people waving the N@zi flag are just "celebrating the average German soldier in WW2". Not saying the two are equally awful or the same, but the Confederate ideology revolved around the preservation of slavery, and poor white southern farmers knew and supported this (mostly because they believed there would be a slave rebellion and extermination or subjugation of whites if slavery was abolished).
You can't sanitize history by saying a symbol isn't meant to represent an awful ideology it was clearly meant to represent.
Not everyone in the north was motivated to end slavery, and not everyone in the south owned slaves (most did not) or believed in slavery. For many people the issue was the right of states to have their own laws, or to have an all powerful national government. The disagreement continues to this day.
If you want to learn a lot about the civil war, " atun shei" is a great channel that debunks a lot of pro-south myths and arguments that I've sure you heard or been told. His videos are also pretty funny as well
The general Sherman one was hilarious with him pulling a gun on Johnny reb. And Johnny taking a full minute to compose himself.
The confederate flag pictured in the Oversimplified vid is the national flag of the confederate states, the flag with the diagonal cross full of stars was the battle flag of the confederate. It was the one carried by the flag barers on the battlefield. Later in the 1960's it was used by Southerners as a symbol to uppose de-segragation. It is popular for many Southerners today that are of that generation, (boomers and the generation before them), and is also used by the Ku Klux Klan. Though to be fair, those twits use the American flag just as much.
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The underground railroad was a very big thing in this part of NY. We have lots of old houses with the hidden rooms. John Brown was for this part of NY as well you can visit his old farm.
Texases old state name was Tejas a believe, which meant friend in Mexican mean friend or ally
(Because you asked about old state names)
Also Texas is the only state to have 6 flags
The United States
The republic of Texas
Spain
Mexico
The Confederation
And France
I am also hoping oversimplified will to a video on the Texas revolution, and the Mexican American war
About the confederate flag, I haven’t seen a single confederate flag flown in Texas, and recently I think Mississippi changed their flag because it had the confederate flag in it
About the bloodiest battle thing, it was a percentage thing. As in how many Americans could have died at these events vs how many actually did
tejas means "roofing tiles" in Spanish. Amigo means friend in Spanish
@@rbeck3200tb40 Yeah, Texas was derived from the Caddo (a Texan Native American tribe) word, taysha, which does mean friend. So you're close, Firestorm, but off. Tejas IS a Spanish word, but it was how the Spanish called that Caddo word.
Also I do hope someday Oversimplified does cover the Texas revolution.
Mexican isn't a language you meant Spanish.
@@Zodia195 yes, thank you for correcting me 😅
For the south it was very definitely about slavery. They literally said that. And i'm glad Oversimplified took the time to prove that. But the northern population would never have accepted to send their sons and fathers to die to free slaves. Had Lincoln even implied that, he would instantly have lost all support for the war and lost the Union. That's why he was so careful to make it about the Union only.
Oversimplified also failed to mention that the escaped slaves who were "put to work" were of course hired and paid and their also fled families taken care of. Eventually. Was a bit messy at first
The South was told for years that the Civil War was about state’s rights because of the North’s stance on slavery. Since most Northerners didn’t oppose slavery and benefited from it, if roundaboutly. Despite the fact that slavery WAS the main cause. Also the South was quite bitter about the period after the war. Since only a third or so of southerners had slaves. The rest didn’t truly understand why they were being punished. And it created a lot of bitterness. Especially when you consider that the greater portion of Hate Crimes committed in the last twenty years have occurred in the North.
This is revisionist tripe.
Maine was part of Massachusetts. West of the Mississippi river the states were settled one at a time.
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40:14 this is true. Lee wrapped his plans around cigars and gave them to messengers on horseback to deliver to his officers. One such cigar fell out of a messenger’s saddle bag while riding through a field, where it was discovered by union scouts.
The rectangular flag that everyone just thinks of as the Confederate flag is actually the Battle Flag of Tennessee. The Battle Flag of Virginia is almost the same, it is just square instead of rectangular. I only learned this recently myself. 🖖💯✌
I'm a native Tennessean lived here most of my life and I've never heard what is now called the Confederate flag or what sometimes called the stars in bars to be called a Tennessee battle flag. I know there were multiple battle flags used during the civil War different states had their own different regiments had their own. but I was always told that that particular design originated in Virginia and it was copied through other states.
@@KarenCatMom2 Indeed...the Virginia design did come first, I think...but it was square, not rectangular. 🖖✌
I've seen this a lot and never noticed Batman in the background before. In knowing his humor it's probably cause Batman stands for 'justice' and he is the 'Dark Knight' and a dark night(dim halfmoon) brought justice for Lincoln's client.
He might be a Colonel Sanders stand in but that was the fashion at the time. All that to say idk for sure so it could go either way really.
But the thing with Lincoln blowing the horns of war in front of the fire is an old Greek(maybe Spartan) tradition I think??
Back in WW2 they MAY have never seen a plane before the war. They weren't that common. And ya they had balls of steel but they might not have been aware just how destructive one would be if it crashed. Airplane safety awareness has taken along to develop.
Weird thing though, I've heard from many a Northerner that quite a few people fly the Confederate flag up there as well.
It's a free country. Flying the flag of traitors wouldn't make you super popular with your neighbors though. I'm guessing it would generally be people from the South who moved North.
To answer your question about the old state names, that area you specified was originally part of the french owned land in America, Thomas Jefferson bought the entire Middle third of the current continental us from napoleon (called the Louisiana purchase) and the whole territory was technically called Louisiana, and it was the single largest land PURCHASE in history, as well as being the best deal for a land purchase in history it cost 15 million then (roughly 3 cents per acre) which would be $393,992,920.35 today (roughly 79 cents per acre)
Regarding Lee's battle plans, there would have been multiple copies that would have been sent by horse to his many commanders. They weren't battle plans per se. They were more like marching orders, but since they detailed the movements of many units it could read like a battle plan. If you Google "special order 191" you can read what they actually said.
At 25:20 you were talking about your relatives watching the planes dogfight each other, where I live in the United States our air force will practice dogfighting over our area, and it’s actually really entertaining to watch it’s almost like a they are dancing in the sky, we also can watch them at night which can be really cool as well when you see them launch flares. Sonic booms however are quite annoying though.
Before they had tons of names because there were tons of other people's living there
area in North Central area was called the Lousiana Territory that the US bought from France in 1802. it became a handful of states later.
The U.S. has a political system called federalism, which means that the federal government makes decisions about some matters and the state governments others. We Americans have been arguing about which should be in charge and when since our Constitution was written in 1787. There is an idea called nullification, which was popular in the South before the Civil War and is occasionally heard from to this day, despite having no legal basis. To oversimplify it, nullification means that any state can refuse to follow any federal law it disagrees with. Congress would still be able to pass laws with majority votes, but unanimous votes would be required to ensure laws would be enforced nationally. The federal government would be incapable of doing anything significant, similar to the United Nations Security Council and the veto power of the five permanent members.
In hindsight, it seems to me that the southern states seceded as much from fear of what the majority northerners would have the federal government do, as they did from anger at what had already been done. The South had controlled much of the federal government in the 1850s, until they lost the presidential election of 1860. People with extreme wealth and power tend to be incapable of sharing; many have the emotional maturity of toddlers and cannot share their toys. The slave-owning aristocrats of the South could not tolerate losing anything, and so they started a war they should have known they could not win, thereby causing them to lose everything.
Mark 1:38. Aha! I never noticed the usage of, "KFC", containers before now. 😂😅
Actually, on the "contraband" issue, that was in some cases not in all at first, as various military commanders who came across slaves that were fleeing north during the way each had different views on what should be done. However, once there was an official policy, ALL of these slaves that fled to Union territory were then considered by the Union to be free. There were other issues of course, as there were way more of them that began coming north than the Union army was prepared for, and yes some were put to work, but many others ended up receiving aid from volunteer civilian groups as well. So, over-oversimplified on that part of it, but hey, that's the point of the video. hehe
When new land was acquired by the USA, it started as unorganized territory, then would become organized territory, then later a state, but usually the state would occupy only part of what had formerly been the territory with the same name. At the 9:08 mark in the video, the map as of 1854 is shown, with Nebraska Territory and Kansas Territory marked, and Minnesota Territory to their northeast. Parts of these had previously been parts of other territories that became states but left parts of themselves unorganized. After Minnesota and Nebraska became states, parts of their territories would become Dakota Territory, and later the states of North and South Dakota.
Lincoln was the first President from the new Republican Party. The Democratic Party prevailed in the south for another century and enforced racial segregation, and did not align very well with members of the same party in the north. In the 1960s-70s, the Republican Party took advantage of this, and took on more of an anti-black stance. So in many ways, the parties switched positions, and many southerners switched from the Democratic to the Republican Party. Party rivalry prior to Lincoln was mainly between the Democratic and Whig parties. Washington aligned with no party, but relied on his unanimous popularity.
The Flag being used in this video was the main Confederate flag flown during the short lived Confederacy. After the war (and after the post-war reconstruction period) when Jim Crow laws started to pop up (segregation), southerners decided they wanted to revitalize their “heritage” and essentially send a message to African Americans that they were in charge, not them. There were numerous flags flown in battle in the civil war, but southerners during Jim Crow opted for the Confederate Battle Flag that most people are familiar with.
The giant piece of territory you refer to around 6:00 was called Unorganized Territory. It was eventually organized prior to the war into smaller units usually named for a state that would eventually exist there. And no, for many states it was very clear that they should or should permit slavery, because their climate would dictate whether or not they could grow the cash crops needed to make slaveholding profitable.
2,977 people died and 6,000+ wounded on September 11th, 2001.
5,400+ died & 17,300+ wounded on September 17th, 1862 at the Battle of Antietam.
Imagine if the planes had struck the WTC an hour later - the number of killed would have been far greater than Antietam.
Those large chunks were territories before they were cut up into individual states. The Confederate flag's design changed throughout the war, just like how the American flag changed throughout the Revolutionary War. If you rewatch the OverSimplified video on the American Revolutionary War, you can see the flag change.
The flag you're talking about was the Confederate Battle Flag. Used only in battle.
Maine was originally part of Massachusetts
The areas of the country were cut up into regional “territories” which would eventually all but cut up further into newly added states.
The Confederate flag was originally the flag you were asking about at 26:53. But they changed it after a short time because it looked way too much like the American flag for their liking.
The Southern slave plantation was a continuation of the British Crown Colony system. The southern states (from Virginia down to Georgia) were originally settled in earnest as business ventures of the British Crown and nobility, specifically to grow cash crops like cotton, sugar and tobacco in great quantities for resale in Europe.
Each tower at the World Trade Center in NYC on 9/11 had thousands of people in it. Plus there were smaller buildings in the entire complex as well with hundreds of more people. About 2900 people died on 9/11 in NYC, Washington, DC and in the plane crash in Pennsylvania. I lost an uncle that day in one of the towers. The Civil War is the deadliest war in US history.
If you look at a map of the United States, you can see that for the most part as you go further west the state borders are mostly just straight lines because they were just drawing lines on a map. More eastern states had their borders formed naturally
Not sure if someone already answered this but at 6:15 that technically wasn't a state it was several different territories I don't know the names of all of them. The largest was called "the unorganized territories" if I remember correctly. They were part of America but they didn't have any people in congress and didn't have a governor. There's also some prerequisites in order to become a state.
The confederate 'Stars & Bars' flag was first created in March of 1861. It didn't appear on the battle field until November 1861 (it had to first be accepted by individual confederate states, and that took time). The south (confederates) persisted in using the U.S. flag during many of the first battles and long after the war had begun because many in the south still had a sense of ownership of a flag that had hitherto meant as much to them (as 'true' Americans) as it did ton anyone in the north. The actions depicted in the video reveals the early '3 Bar' flag that was not fully replaced by the 'Stars & Bars' confederate flag until late in 1861.
A word of advice. If you have questions about the American civil war, the last person you should trust on the topic is an American. That event still causes screaming matches at dinner tables to this day. Everyone (myself included) has a pretty strong bias one way or the other. Trying to get full truth from one of us is an exercise in futility in my opinion.
The national flag of the Confederacy is called the stars and bars. The flag you are discussing was the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia.
Mark 40:40. I know that finding war plans like that is a big deal. But, using tobacco stuff for storage is a common enough thing that happens. In the 1970s, when pollution was common, I used to pick up cigarette packet litter, because people would store cash and other items in them, but somehow forget that they did so, as they littered the landscape around them with their other waste. 💵
6:07 in answer to your question before they became states they were claimed terriotories :-)
At 6:02, the areas in question were not states yet. They were territories of the U.S. They were divided into smaller pieces when they became states, and these pieces didn't all join the union at once.
The slur "Uncle Tom" does come from the book Uncle Tom's Cabin. The character of Uncle Tom in the book was a house slave (i.e. he worked in the house rather than in the fields, which gave him a higher status). House slaves were commonly seen as servile, which is how the expression got its meaning. However, in the book, Uncle Tom was a rather heroic character - he refused to tell the slaveowner Simon Legree where an escaped slave had gone, for which Legree beat Uncle Tom to death.
The U.S. has always had a two-party system because of our electoral processes, in which winning 51% of the vote in a state or district gives the party 100% of the representation in that state or district (this is often called "first past the post"). But the parties weren't always Democratic and Republican. From 1828 through 1854 the two parties were the Democrats and the Whigs. The Whig Party broke up over the issue of slavery, and the Republican Party arose in its place. The first Republican to run for president was John C. Frémont in 1856. He lost to Democrat James Buchanan. It was Buchanan who was president when the southern states started to secede, and while he said he was opposed to it, he also insisted he didn't have the authority to do anything about it.
Others have pointed out the difference between the Confederate flag and the Battle Flag of Tennessee. As for what it means today, it's a symbol of white supremacy, not slavery per se (slavery is a dead issue). Some people who display this flag insist it's a symbol of southern heritage, but really, that's not what it means. And I'd say that today most southerners don't approve of its use.
A big reason Lincoln was cautious about making the war about slavery is that he needed the support of the four slaveholding border states that hadn't seceded (Maryland, Delaware, Kentucky, and Missouri). He also needed the support of northerners who didn't believe slavery was sufficient cause to fight a war. If he'd started using black soldiers early in the war, it might have cost him so much politically that the Union would have lost. So he delayed this issue as long as he could. Lincoln was walking a tightrope between competing interests throughout the war. Politics is the art of the possible. But in the end, Lincoln not only saved the Union (which was hit original stated war aim), he also made sure that slavery was abolished. If he'd made the war about slavery from the beginning, he might have accomplished neither.
The Emancipation Proclamation was an odd thing. It freed only the slaves in the rebel territories, not in the four border states I mentioned above. Lincoln's constitutional justification for this was that the slaves, as property, could be considered war collateral. Lincoln was concerned that those who had been freed would be returned to slavery when the war ended, which is why he (and many others) passed the 13th amendment to the constitution, which completely outlawed slavery.
If you notice the size of most of the middle states they were formed on the calculations of the amount of people who might move there, as the land becomes less oroductive the states were bigger.. they were interested ib fairness. There were some changes in states such as Colorado Idaho and Utah.California and Texas were short lived countries.
8:30. There are some requirements that a territory has to fulfill to become a state. One of the biggest I think is population. I think there is also a vote from the people in that territory for statehood.