How games secretly shape our world - with Kelly Clancy

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024

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  • @electronics.unmessed
    @electronics.unmessed Місяць тому +8

    Mind provoking lecture! Thanks!

  • @JavierBonnemaison
    @JavierBonnemaison Місяць тому +15

    Please fix the video's title. It is Kelly Clancy.

  • @akirachisaka9997
    @akirachisaka9997 Місяць тому +3

    I do think that "play" is fundementally a form of "hyperspeed learning". As in, "playing" is the choice to intentionally waste precious resources like energy and time just so you can "learn" something, often something that may or may not be useful at all.
    What I mean is, for an animal to play, it's often like "we do not have anymore data to train ourselves on, so we will intentionally waste resources to create more data to train ourselves". In the mouse example, I think laughter is like a sign to tell everyone "we have a surplus of resources and are not in distress, we can now waste it on playing now".
    And in the long run, species that tend to use redundent resources to "play" tends to survive, because "playing" means "learning things that doesn't seems useful currently", but those things may potentially become useful later on. Like some cavemen might accidentally invent algebra because they were bored and playing DnD.
    And for modern day video games, games are fun mostly because they can trigger the "I AM LEARNING AT HYPERSPEED" feeling in the brain. The stuff being learned most likely isn't useful in most situations, but anyhow, the reaction cause games to be fun and addicting.

  • @andycordy5190
    @andycordy5190 Місяць тому +2

    I loved this presentation. Thank you.
    I was so attracted by the anecdote about the Soviet response to the war games played by Zhukov and Pavlov that I did some background reading. The commencement of hostilities between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union is an active area of study for senior historians and fraught with contending theories about who was about to do what to whom. The incident is mythologised in many sources but this presentation of the drama is very entertaining.

  • @jasonvytlacil1256
    @jasonvytlacil1256 Місяць тому

    really fantastic talk!

  • @nikolahn
    @nikolahn Місяць тому +4

    Kids should start Learning the Probability theory from the first class. Letters, numbers and Likelihood.

    • @edwardlulofs444
      @edwardlulofs444 Місяць тому

      Absolutely!
      Unfortunately some people oppose education because it makes people harder to manipulate.

  • @whiskeygamesnerdstuff789
    @whiskeygamesnerdstuff789 Місяць тому

    Great book worth reading.

  • @edwardlulofs444
    @edwardlulofs444 Місяць тому +1

    Perhaps games are a combination of stories and mathematics.
    Mathematics helps people think. And stories help people to learn about the world and come to terms with it.

  • @akirachisaka9997
    @akirachisaka9997 Місяць тому +1

    I always wished there is like, an opposite word for “Capital G Gamers”. Like, “Italicized G Gamers”?
    As in, **Gamers** in the opposite direction of the traditional western stereotype of “Gamers”. With the attitude of “Mario, is a game. Minecraft, is a game. Chess, is a game. Tic Tac Toe, is a game. Mario 64 A Press Challenge, is a game. The Prisoner’s Dilemma, is a game. Iterated Prisoner’s Dilemma, is a game. Game Theory, is a game. The Game, is a game, also we’ve lost.”
    But yeah, I feel like in the current day and age, this type of **Gamer** seems actually a lot more common than the traditional western “Capital G Gamers”. Just think about all the random video essays on UA-cam and stuff.
    And on the contrary, stuff like “Call of Duty” are more and more being relegated as “non-gamer games”. Stuff that’s more for the general mass media and doesn’t require years of video gaming experience to understand.

  • @ShawnDaGeek
    @ShawnDaGeek Місяць тому

    i want self assembling Nth side dice that have reassembly for reduction to remove what ever was rolled until pyramid shaped.

  • @AdamLeis
    @AdamLeis Місяць тому +1

    Pascal wasn't restricted from thinking about math after becoming a Christian. He just focused more energy on theology, because he thought it was a more important use of his time.
    That aside, this is a great presentation and very interesting!

    • @danielpaulson8838
      @danielpaulson8838 Місяць тому

      In my mind, Pascal’s wager demonstrates the shallow nature of Christianity. It hinges on the idea that it is as Paul taught. That if you just worship God/Jesus and follow ten laws that are naturally followed even by monogamous animals, that you are a Christian. It’s why we see so many denominations and in America Christianity has been taken over by the GOP due to this very shallow requirement.
      They don’t follow Jesus teachings. They worship him.
      What is that? Idol worship. They have weaponized Jesus but they abide by Pascals Wager.

  • @felixccaa
    @felixccaa Місяць тому +3

    1:17 it's not only ppl that are fascinated by games . every mamal plays on one way or another, because when we play we simulate parts of reality . just watch a cat playing with wool - what it actually does is training it's hunting and killing skills - the same with us humans - but we should be careful not to make short assumtions about what we realy train: it's not killing what we train when we play ego shooter, it's about reflexes, team-play, knowing how the game mechanics work, also finding out how humans interact and so on and so forth

    • @lobachevscki
      @lobachevscki Місяць тому +1

      She says this at the beginning of the lecture.

    • @edwardlulofs444
      @edwardlulofs444 Місяць тому

      Yes, games are definitely correlated with intelligence.

    • @Will140f
      @Will140f Місяць тому +1

      Did you stop watching at 1:18? She literally spends minutes discussing this

  • @LukeSumIpsePatremTe
    @LukeSumIpsePatremTe Місяць тому

    Can't afford the book. Can someone please let me know who won the WWII?

  • @meherenow793
    @meherenow793 27 днів тому +2

    not watching this hour-long video, but kelly is wearing the heck out of those blue pants!

  • @b-eazy6663
    @b-eazy6663 Місяць тому

    Blinded by the Light

  • @souadbauer164
    @souadbauer164 Місяць тому

    🙏

  • @saad-ul4mr
    @saad-ul4mr Місяць тому +2

    but now games are playing people instead of people playing them

    • @thekaxmax
      @thekaxmax Місяць тому

      Some games from some makers, not all

  • @banemiladinov8202
    @banemiladinov8202 Місяць тому +5

    A lot of uhmms, and voice cracking, a true gamer she is.

  • @danielpaulson8838
    @danielpaulson8838 Місяць тому +1

    Monomyths, like Greek myth, Babylonian and Jewish creation myths etc are all played out in the mind. We don’t do that anymore. They had them memorized which is necessary to gather everything along the path. We are Jason, or Marduk, or Noah, or Moses, etc.
    We no longer access the inner template which is an inward turning, spiritual healing path.

  • @relwalretep
    @relwalretep Місяць тому

    8 bit Jason Isaacs never looked so good! 😀

  • @moshecallen
    @moshecallen Місяць тому

    At timestamp 2:45, that is almost certainly a board for some form of mancala (AKA manqala), a family of board games played with pits and shared stones or seeds.

    • @thekaxmax
      @thekaxmax Місяць тому +4

      She said its mancala

  • @kencory2476
    @kencory2476 Місяць тому

    Economics is an elaborate game, with no relevance to, or influence of, human aspirations.

    • @thekaxmax
      @thekaxmax Місяць тому

      Neo-classical economics, that is.

  • @jonnscott4858
    @jonnscott4858 Місяць тому

    "You're it"! .................🏃‍♂

  • @elinope4745
    @elinope4745 Місяць тому

    Does this look like a GAME to you?!?!?

  • @jps17183
    @jps17183 Місяць тому

    False. There is no historical record of religions that have formally banned mathematics as something profane. Much less Jainism. Jainism has a historical and profound relationship with mathematics, especially in the areas of logic, number theory, and geometry. Here are some points on how Jainism views mathematics:
    Mathematics and Philosophy: Jains believe that mathematics is a crucial tool for understanding the universe and reality. Mathematics is seen as a way to achieve truth and mental clarity.
    Concepts of Infinity: Jain mathematicians explored concepts of infinity long before these were widely accepted in the West. They developed different types of infinities and addressed paradoxes related to infinity.
    Numbers and Counting Systems: Jain texts mention large numbers and develop advanced counting systems. They introduced concepts of large numbers and arithmetic and geometric progressions.
    Geometry and Astronomy: Jains made significant contributions to geometry and astronomy. They studied geometric shapes, volumes, and surfaces, and calculated astronomical parameters with notable precision.
    Mathematical Sutras: Jain texts such as the "Suryaprajnapti" and the "Bhagavati Sutra" contain mathematical discussions, including topics like numerical progressions, combinations, and permutations.
    Practical Use of Mathematics: Jains used mathematics to construct temples and icons with geometric precision. They applied mathematical principles in architecture and art.
    Abstract Concepts: Jain philosophy includes abstract concepts that are expressed mathematically. For example, the concept of "anekantavada" (non-absolutism) can be understood as an approach that allows for multiple perspectives, similar to the idea of variation in mathematical functions.
    Education and Teaching: Jain tradition highly values education, including mathematics. Jain temples often served as centers of learning where mathematics was taught along with other disciplines.
    Thus, Jainism not only appreciates mathematics as a practical and theoretical discipline but also integrates it deeply into its philosophy and worldview.

    • @BenTajer89
      @BenTajer89 29 днів тому

      Lol, Pascal's Parents who were french converts to Jansenism a form of Catholicism. It's unlikely they would have known anything about Jainism, an indian religion...

    • @jps17183
      @jps17183 29 днів тому

      @@BenTajer89 Ok. My mistake. But even Jansenism didn't ban math. It was Pascal's choice to do so. Even that is not entirly true... While he did shift his priorities, Pascal never completely abandoned his scientific and mathematical interests.

    • @davecarsley8773
      @davecarsley8773 23 дні тому

      Lots of absolute nonsense in your comment. Nice read, though!

  • @davecarsley8773
    @davecarsley8773 23 дні тому

    Great topic. But Kelly needs a bit more rehearsal or a teleprompter.

  • @true.is.around
    @true.is.around Місяць тому +2

    ruzzians are not slavic nation, never was...

  • @ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
    @ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 Місяць тому +1

    What a load of drivel from an annoying speaker. No need to ruin the talk like that.
    {:o:O:}

  • @GuybrushThreepwood_GER
    @GuybrushThreepwood_GER Місяць тому +1

    this was boring

    • @thekaxmax
      @thekaxmax Місяць тому +1

      So don't watch it

    • @EmancipatedSquirrel
      @EmancipatedSquirrel Місяць тому +1

      Watch it at twice the speed

    • @agasd67654asdga
      @agasd67654asdga Місяць тому +2

      @@EmancipatedSquirrel watch it at half speed to really let it burn in