@@alippnya6939 I do watch rizpol as well but he plays against heralds or low level pubs. But this is an actual pro game where KOTL played as a core position 2. I don't think anybody did this before in a pro match. I maybe wrong though.
Nine ( once ) was a TOP 1 in (EU MMR LEADERBOARD) when he is still in Penta. He is TOP 1 lads and gents, T.O.P. 1, this guy is something but he is UNDERRATED ! Doesnt talk alot, carry his skeeter skater avril lavigne on his back, and KNOW what to do all the times !
@@dota2videoclips754 yeah they're not aggressive anymore like they kinda chill this time not giving 100% in the game. that would be hard for them to get their ti form if they kept losing
@@aldeawiradiwijaya2120 lol no way man, topson always finds a way to win even if they are losing while nine if he lost mid they will lose the game. i guess maybe nine just need better team
EU picks are odd in general, EU teams seen alot of odd strats. Other regions have more "normal" drafts. Thats why u see them struggle more than EU vs EU when these things occure
@@jajjjamensan yeah on previous majors at least. But EU teams were terrible vs other regions on the latest majors before this year's TI edition, so tundra's performance was certainly a breath of fresh air
A kinda interesting feature of Dota Plus is being able to see how each hero is normally played at the different MMR tiers, and surprisingly KOTL mid does seem to be a thing that happens in the top two tiers. Below that point everyone apparently just treats him as a support, but the pros seem able to recognise the potential of the hero.
Ww mid is not exactly new, it's just hard to play due to slow farming so no one picks ww mid in pro scene, because pro games usually drag longer and you want something that can scale.
Nine: I am going to spam WW mid and destroy my games.. Valve: no you don't we nerf WW we make her weaker Nine: no problem I can play KOTL now and destroy my games.. Valve: are you kidding me 🤨
@@FrozenDung As soon as you click blademail, it's like a taunt, everyone even has to click abilities on you, the guy can just wait for the 4.5seconds and kill you after, the slow is spammable, so you aint going anywhere
I tried KOTL mid with the same build and pretty much owned the game. I think people dont really know how to play against such cheese heroes , like even in the last patch when mid wyvern was a thing people really underestimated these heroes' damage
Have been seeing Topson spamming Kotl in Pubs, but didn't expect Tundra in competition. Waiting to see in REAL Competitive match (DPC/TI/Quals) not a match where you have nothing to lose.
bullshit, ti format consist 16 teams in main stage, adding 1/2 slots will messed up the format/ time of plays / money, also it will cause 'bye' in the format itself, its tundra fault for not making to ti;)
@@hegeliansours1312 i said they dont bring out their best yet.... why u all take it that way... if thay make a fine run we would see them at Bucharest... schewmit aye
didnt topson play dagon Kotl , 3 days ago ? why people talk like nine invented it , it was being played long before, in the times of dota 1 , now that cast time is improved , everyone is returning to that meta . moral of the story , nine didnt invent this , but he made it work in a pro match.
Nigma's just fine and so is Tundra. Tundra already a good and strong team. Why would they want to release their player just to make the other team stronger?
Never in my life I thought I will see KOTL in godlike streak and top of net worth in a pro game.
they perfectly craft the draft
@@alippnya6939 he said in pro scene, not guradian scene. 😂
@@alippnya6939 I do watch rizpol as well but he plays against heralds or low level pubs. But this is an actual pro game where KOTL played as a core position 2. I don't think anybody did this before in a pro match. I maybe wrong though.
@@alippnya6939 ripzol the meta changer in guardian
@@alippnya6939 rizpol pride lol
i've already seen the effects of this. Enemy kotl kinda dumpstered my invo and they might've won had their pos 1 been something other than undying
I love Tundra. They make dota more interesting.
after WW mid against OG, now nine bring us new entertaining matach with KoTL
True. Different draft and strategy.
It's og without any toxicity ingame
@@stressedoutbymountainofbooks what toxicity
@@adriandqTR i think he maent the tips, and chat wheels.. but if he calls that toxicity then he's pretty fragile..
Nine ( once ) was a TOP 1 in (EU MMR LEADERBOARD) when he is still in Penta. He is TOP 1 lads and gents, T.O.P. 1, this guy is something but he is UNDERRATED ! Doesnt talk alot, carry his skeeter skater avril lavigne on his back, and KNOW what to do all the times !
Rank 1 doesnt mean anything. Excalibur was rank 1 5 times
@@ronweasley9001 topson was also rank 1 eu once then og recruited him ez clap
@@m4d-558 yet tundra beat og clean 2-0?
More like T1 are shet and been different since qualifying for TI
@@dota2videoclips754 yeah they're not aggressive anymore like they kinda chill this time not giving 100% in the game. that would be hard for them to get their ti form if they kept losing
Damn that damage. Its like Qop's Sonic Wave level 3 but in early game.
the downside only he always need to use ult form. to combo with blinding.
Yeah his solar bind w skill lowers magic resistance
Give these Tundra lads a wildcard spot at TI10.
nah they dont deserve a ti slot ahaha
@@hadiyah2023 rly? they deserve it more than t1, alliance and NA scum
@@nobrainnogain7255 for real EU is the most f'ked up qualifiers.
Holy shit Nine is on an other level! This guy just plays the most crazy shit mid and make it work
i think so, and his WW absolutely amazing!
Nine seems to excel at heroes that can do their work from afar, letting his team cover for him. That's a nice synergy Tundra got going on.
he is like topson, once topson retires nine might be a good replacement
@@cherub0nyx ????
Nine is better than topson!
@@aldeawiradiwijaya2120 lol no way man, topson always finds a way to win even if they are losing while nine if he lost mid they will lose the game. i guess maybe nine just need better team
Ahh the good old days of dota 1 where kotl can buy dagon and 1 shot everyone, ethereal blade in addition of course.
Dota 1 got eb? Stupid joker
@@vlle3521 yes they have
@@sidorakmine hello the old dota1 means 5.84 after dota 2 spawn , if u all dont even know what means as old dota 1 then dont bi li ba la thx
@@vlle3521 i dunno what ur saying. But all i know that eb was first released in dota 1 (frozenthrone)
@@sidorakmine hahahha jack tee is a caveman
Nine is a revolutionary man, first grimstroke mid, and then there was winter, now kotl, so what's next?
waitin for warlock kekw
AA since AA scepter is OP
@@harryyu8655 AA mid been a thing since old days
@@imnahraf9520 yeah but for recent matches I think only Topson did that
@@lokanantazain nah sumail did aa mid in pro scene 5 years ago against cignal ultra
T1: Lets save strat for next qualify
Agency: we will go back to LOL
this tundra barly missed the TI10 but for sure they will be a strong team in the future dpc season!
EU picks are odd in general, EU teams seen alot of odd strats. Other regions have more "normal" drafts. Thats why u see them struggle more than EU vs EU when these things occure
@@jajjjamensan yeah on previous majors at least. But EU teams were terrible vs other regions on the latest majors before this year's TI edition, so tundra's performance was certainly a breath of fresh air
First I saw Wyvern now Keep, damn this guy is something
Also grimstroke mid
when Tundra uses picks KOTL for mid it's game changing.
when I do I get reported.
A kinda interesting feature of Dota Plus is being able to see how each hero is normally played at the different MMR tiers, and surprisingly KOTL mid does seem to be a thing that happens in the top two tiers.
Below that point everyone apparently just treats him as a support, but the pros seem able to recognise the potential of the hero.
i played it yesterday lol, the change on cast time made it super legit, one of my favorite heroes! thx frog
What cast time ?
illuminate channel time is now always 3s instead of going from 2 to 4s
@@erickdemertria3899 is the time that some spell need to be cast
Nine is absolute madlad, last patch ww mid now kotl, this guy kills the meta man
Ww mid is not exactly new, it's just hard to play due to slow farming so no one picks ww mid in pro scene, because pro games usually drag longer and you want something that can scale.
Team spirit tried to use this on hard lane, but they wasn't win
This reminds me of sumail back in 2017 when he played earthshaker and AA on mid xD
I remember. He rekt Armel shadow fiend (?) Clutch Gamers VS. EG
It was qojqva who went first Time mid with deadelus earthshaker
@@marwenmachat i forgot who it was in dota 1 did that deso es shadowblade and dawdalus
@@sagiriizumi1641 yeah i checked again and it was qojqva who did. The es shadowblade and didalus mid
I really want to see how psg.lgd vs tundra in a match
I hope lgd will let them pick kotol
Gandalf is on fire! Nine is awesome.. wanna see more of his amazingly crazy style..
Wow I haven't watched a Dota cast in years and they've gotten so much better. Great analysis, pacing, and reactions from the both of them!
Nine: I am going to spam WW mid and destroy my games..
Valve: no you don't we nerf WW we make her weaker
Nine: no problem I can play KOTL now and destroy my games..
Valve: are you kidding me 🤨
now kotl is as strong as his lore tells.
Never underestimate this team. They're insane. Also i loved FATA's drafting in these recent pro games with Tundra.
This is not the first Kotl mid in the pro scene, OB.Neon has done this against Patriots is SEA thats why Tundra gave them a taste of their medicine.
4:54 the moment of a caster get turned down by her own partner
LOL
She dump af. 2k analyst
Moxxy should start casting in the Kitchen instead of dota
imagine picking QOP against KOTL with Sonic Wave every 5 seconds
nice exemple xD
Lol
Where do I can find the thumbnail art?
I saw topson used it in pub... never thought they'll used it in tournament
Topson picked it offlane. Here is MID Kotl of the Light
rizpol makes 1st....can see his channel
Rizpol smurfs against people below crusader rank
@@dotatvru nah, topson played it MID when he played with gorgc.
@@dotatvru KOTL of the light LOL 🤣🤣🤣.. '' keeper".. Was it auto correct?
how to watch this game on dota? anyone has the match id?
09:19 new chatwheel!!
It's really sad we won't see Tundra on this TI
Tundra with meme builds is such a treat.
first winter wyvern core, now kotl. What's next? CM?
tundra nine must be a Rizpol subscriber for sure lol
already lost mmr to this few days ago, I was a bristle and still getting almost one shotted in the back from a dagon and wave, I had hood as well
You ever heard of blademail
@@FrozenDung As soon as you click blademail, it's like a taunt, everyone even has to click abilities on you, the guy can just wait for the 4.5seconds and kill you after, the slow is spammable, so you aint going anywhere
Maybe a mage slayer might help but ye i also got 1 shotted by kotl even with mage slayer cuz got snowballed too bad lmao
I tried KOTL mid with the same build and pretty much owned the game. I think people dont really know how to play against such cheese heroes , like even in the last patch when mid wyvern was a thing people really underestimated these heroes' damage
Isn't his name Skiter not Skeeter?
Nine looking like Topson in this one.
I'm glad I'm 3k, I've seen enemy mid kotls but because I'm in the dumpster tier they don't execute it properly and it's usually an easy win
I haven't played dota in a while and this game is going crazy Kotl is freaking awesome in mid lol.
Kotl going mid. Tinker becoming support. What a time to be alive
Why u not pick bara the best counter for kotl
Have been seeing Topson spamming Kotl in Pubs, but didn't expect Tundra in competition.
Waiting to see in REAL Competitive match (DPC/TI/Quals) not a match where you have nothing to lose.
6 months after Gandalf saw an ad for HGH in Men's Health
Winter Wyvern Mid, KOTL Mid, what's next Nine? The mastermind of Supmidlaner
Na’Vi is back!
What tournament is this?
Still sad tundra does not play TI this year. Really hoped they were qualified
Nyx assasin is the best counter to kotl, Carapace on the illuminate
1st they do WW and now KOTL mid. RIZPOL-Sama is proud.
I love dota, the weird things in this matchup make me more interest to play
This weird pick followed by a stomping match remind me of OG Io by Ana lol. Hope this won't be too dominant on next TI
7.30c gonna fix this ig idk
Give Thundra a wildcard spot at Ti10
lol too many slots for EU thats enough. also thundra should qualify in major first hahaha
bullshit, ti format consist 16 teams in main stage, adding 1/2 slots will messed up the format/ time of plays / money, also it will cause 'bye' in the format itself, its tundra fault for not making to ti;)
First Wyzen then Kotl.. this Chad is on fire…
it was first grimstroke
Thats new, Sneyking not using Mirana LOLOLOL! 😂 😂 😂
this is literally the last 2 patches meta before 7.30
From pos 1 io, to pos 5 mk.
Now presenting POS 2 KOTL
Tundra deserve a spot in TI10. They make dota so entertaning,.
Its like their wyvern mid last time, next pro match teams will be prepared for this strat
I had a very good kotl mid in my pub on the enemy team after this. He was succeeding, but the key was playing offensive and aggressive against him.
Nine is just our super hero.
The power of Gandalf..
Thank topson for starting kotl cancer
I'm a fan of Nine now
only reason thisbworked is T1's lineup. no hard carry spell based lineup. juicy game for kotl.
the right one now
6:55 and kids thats why u only use windrun to run away not to walk around faster
I've been playing my KOTL this way since forever.
Ye but this patch just makes it an absolute beast, 3 second channeling for 600 dmg? That’s insane
This proves that any draft can work then! Pos 5 void, carry axe, carey io, gyro support, so many endless combinations!
Yeah but only in high skill games where execution is key
So this is why 4/5 of my pubs have kotl mid
I think it would much interesting TI10 if Tundra gets the direct invite instead of T1.
Well it didn't happen idiot T1 earn their spot
It doesn't mean that they don't bro so go cry
Still sad that there's no tundra in TI but there still NA team
After TI10, skitter and nine would be recruited by marquee teams
Last tournament before Ti10..
Is nine the new topson?
this happens when ice frog makes patch while smoking weed 24*7
Innovating dota at its finest
Tundra are so interesting and creative.... i know they gon be big at TI someday.... just a bad run this qualifier :)
I don’t think 1 game off from qualifying counts as a “bad run”
@@arvin0786 bro i mean the ti10 qualifying and dpc
@@yourdadsgamingchannel1447 they had a near perfect run on ti quali bro, whacchu talking about?
@@hegeliansours1312 i said they dont bring out their best yet.... why u all take it that way... if thay make a fine run we would see them at Bucharest... schewmit aye
i don't think tundra had a bad run
i think its OG who got their rythm back on grand final
Wow.like the old navi style of draft.when puppey and dendi time. Amazing tundra.nine. 😂
didnt topson play dagon Kotl , 3 days ago ? why people talk like nine invented it , it was being played long before, in the times of dota 1 , now that cast time is improved , everyone is returning to that meta . moral of the story , nine didnt invent this , but he made it work in a pro match.
Yeah, ived watched it too... On players perspective channel.. I think nine just try it in this game.. After watching that game..
did this guy Nine watching Topson play Kotl ?
He saw it for sure..
Rip T1 in TI
Not even kidding; just lost two ranked games in a row with KOTL mid.
played against one yesterday. 71 min game and he had 10000 more gold than the pa in his team. but we still won kekw
I hope 3ks 4ks in sea won't see this match, it is much better picking wyvern on mid rather than kotl which more relies on his teammate.
Crusader Mid : Hmmmm
0-14
KotL mid dagon came from high mmr matches anyway, tundra just decided to show it to plebs
Damn Rizpol actually Brilliant
rizpol predicted this 7 months ago lmao
@@vicentejuliusdelfin6036 and me like 9 years ago in dota 1 well
Nine became Rizpol lol
after that one topson stream:
welcome from sea server kotl
Nine is just topson like, unusual heroes
Gandalf dagon meta is back
Amazing Tundra, but to do that you not only need good skills, you need a good coordinated team. This is bad for pubs really.
nahh its even better in pubs you just farm and kill enemy you dont need coordination for this hero
KOTL mid in this game is just too much, Tundra is making this looks like a normal pub game
Kamehameha everwhere
hello Toxicity, my old friend.
nigma should try to get nine on their team, he looks like a solid mid player, very unique and aggressive too
Nigma's fine. Chill
Waiting for the day when kuro will.come back to his senses and starts drafting like a pro player
Nigma's just fine and so is Tundra. Tundra already a good and strong team. Why would they want to release their player just to make the other team stronger?
@@nitesh14able maybe in your next life. Kuro is kuro. He will never change
Kuro favorite draft : TA and Tide
Nigma problem is bald kuroky
void support, KOTL mid, AM offlane
what's next? disruptor carry?
Pos 1 techies of course
I think the previous tournament, tundra also pick w.w for mid when againts og
Yes..at first,most team fail to counter his wyvern but og manage to find a solution during games 5..notail disruptor really mess up nine winter..