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  • Two hundred years after the first discovery of the Tyranids, a second major Hive Fleet hit the Imperium. But Hive Fleet Kraken was a lot harder to defeat than Behemoth had been, because its roots were spread ahead of it by cults lurking in the darkness across the Eastern Fringe.
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  • @HistoritorJimaldus
    @HistoritorJimaldus Рік тому +113

    6:32 ‘they threw aside their robes and revealed themselves’ - oh my 😮

    • @thomasparker6124
      @thomasparker6124 Рік тому +30

      It's how they steal your jeans.

    • @ReadyAimFire_
      @ReadyAimFire_ Рік тому +8

      I like how this video is 1 hour old and op comment was made 5 days ago. Some chaos magic I smell here. This needs Inquisition to be investigated.

    • @idontwanttopickone
      @idontwanttopickone Рік тому +4

      Slaanesh is pleased.

    • @HistoritorJimaldus
      @HistoritorJimaldus Рік тому +8

      @@ReadyAimFire_ patreon magic ;)

    • @RedVSBlueIsCewl
      @RedVSBlueIsCewl Рік тому +1

      Weird start to porn buuuuut ok

  • @Hartmansgrad
    @Hartmansgrad Рік тому +119

    I hope I'm not the only one who saw the old codex map of Kraken's advance including 'Graia, Factory World'...I knew I remembered the name from somewhere when playing Space Marine...so we're going back to Graia in Space Marine 2 then, I guess

    • @samovarsa2640
      @samovarsa2640 Рік тому +40

      You go back there in Boltgun!

    • @Seruvius
      @Seruvius Рік тому +18

      Graia is a forgeworld now and is one of the playable subfactions for admech on the tabletop. They are known for their stubbornness, which with all these invasions they clearly need.

    • @jnev5572
      @jnev5572 Рік тому +3

      ​​@@Seruvius 'mi' lord I know your toaster collection is vast and cumbersome, but why not move it to Mars?'

  • @cero1968
    @cero1968 Рік тому +26

    There's a fun bit in one of the Ciaphas Cain novels, where it's mentioned that the connection between Tyranids and Genestealers had been suggested quite early on by certain members of the Ordo Xenos. This suggestion was dismissed by higher ranked officials. Officials that were ultimately proven wrong. Amberely Vail's annotation is essentially "A more petty person would say 'I told you so'"

    • @TheCorrodedMan
      @TheCorrodedMan 8 місяців тому +1

      “And this one will; I told you so”

  • @PeachyPixel28
    @PeachyPixel28 Рік тому +147

    I'm still getting uesed to the way Ian says Tyranids 😂

  • @CptPanda29
    @CptPanda29 Рік тому +81

    Important that the "Lamenter's entire chapter" is like 300ish marines following Badab and they were also forbidden to rebuild during their penitent crusade.

    • @paulyg405
      @paulyg405 Рік тому +16

      I feel like this kind of lore - around stuff like the Lamenters, is what we're losing since 7th ed. GW seem to want to keep it to the big picture narrative and not dig into the interesting stuff going on in the background

    • @PrimetimeD
      @PrimetimeD Рік тому +7

      Per the 8th edition Blood Angels codex, the Lamenters were out of contact for many years, but not "lost", as they are said to have prevailed (8th edition Blood Angels codex). Plus as of the most recent lore, their numbers have been reinforced by Primaris marines. Also, during the time they were fighting Kraken, there was one ornery Lamenter dreadnaught that was with the Deathguard.

    • @michaeldimare3786
      @michaeldimare3786 Рік тому +1

      @@paulyg405 More or less I agree. Unfortunately, the more popular the setting becomes, the more they feel they have to be epic in scale

    • @r.cdahuman7682
      @r.cdahuman7682 Рік тому +4

      ​@@PrimetimeDthe deathwatch, not deathguard. No lamenter would ever join nurgle, they are too pure.

    • @pixelfille3130
      @pixelfille3130 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@paulyg405and now 11 months later the lamenters got a book

  • @thomasparker6124
    @thomasparker6124 Рік тому +49

    Given the short stories of Inquisitor Kryptman way back in White Dwarfs 130 and 131 7in Summer 1990 that hearlded the release of ADVANCED SPACE CRUSADE! which introduced Hive Fleet Kraken and Tyranids as they pretty much are now with Tyranid Warriors, Carnifexes and Genestealers.
    Versus mostly just proto-Termagants and Zoats in the 1E Rogue Trader Rulebook which described Ultramarines vs Hive Fleet Behemoth back in 1987.
    I could make the dubious claim that Kraken arriving was the first narrative progressing event in 40K.

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 Рік тому +12

    First video on 40K I ever watched was Templin Institute's one on the Nids. I was hooked since then. A creeping, parasitic threat larger than all the other put together. True terror surrounding the entire galaxy.
    Reminded me of The Flood I loved and was scared of as a kid, and I love them now all the years later. So glad 10th edition is giving them a chance to shine.

  • @iandoddsblah
    @iandoddsblah Рік тому +7

    The Ichar IV campaign in in White Dwarf is one of my first WH memories!

    • @johnnybigbones4955
      @johnnybigbones4955 Рік тому +1

      Mine too! I started right around that time. I remember the articles about the Scythes of the Emperor and the Giant's Coffin.

  • @D0pam1n
    @D0pam1n Рік тому +9

    Thai-Ranids
    Thai-Fighters
    Thai-Rannosaurus Rex
    Whatever did Thailand do to draw all this ire?

  • @minipaintingforyou
    @minipaintingforyou Рік тому +5

    The tyranids are the most interesting and terrifying faction in 40k, imo. When I started to play the game, I forwent them for my gaming buddy, followed by a decade of narrative scenarios and cinematic moments, that I still remember fondly. Genestealers rampaging through my Raven Guard‘s backlines, stopped by a heroic and fatal intervention by their captain. Venerable dreadnoughts being torn limb from limb while their living brothers were swarmed by gaunts, all becoming biomass at the end.
    I rarely won against them, but every game lost also included so many cool moments, that grew my affection for the Tyranids.
    Necrons used to be almost as terrifying in 4th edition. With their revamp they turned into a kingdom straight out of some cheesy medieval sitcom.

    • @mrmaster9801
      @mrmaster9801 Рік тому

      I like Tyranids precisely for the sheer terror they evoke, so I tried more than once to run them as my second army (my first one being the Ultramarines), only giving up when I realized the logistical nightmare they are (to me at least), expecially when fielding and removing them from the field ^^".
      I was planning to replace them with Necrons (my second favorite secondary army), expecially after putting my hands on the old 3e Codex and its beautiful lore. However, when I read about how they changed the Necrons' lore, I gave up on them too. I get that probably they were filling the same niche of the Nids back in the days (cosmic horror looming on the galaxy), but today they look pretty much Khemri in space and with even more bickering among the dinasties, which is a shame to me.
      So, I'm left with the choice between an army that I love but which I can't handle well from a logistical point of view and another one far more manageable but for which I still have to find something really good in its lore.

  • @jasonnorris3292
    @jasonnorris3292 Рік тому +11

    Man I LOVE THIS CHANNEL - everytime I see a video up I jump on it, and it's one of the only channels I actively come back to to see if you've uploaded yet, love the vibe and the setup (even if it is green screen atm lol.) Favourite Warhammer UA-camr for sure

  • @thecommuterzombie
    @thecommuterzombie Рік тому +4

    5:29 love that classic Rogue Trader art.

  • @damienruzco
    @damienruzco Рік тому +1

    This is exactly the summary I’ve been looking for!

  • @GeneralRasp
    @GeneralRasp Рік тому +5

    Loved the video! Such a enjoyable way to catch up on modern events.

  • @Armageddon2077
    @Armageddon2077 Рік тому +3

    In second edition Space Hulk it said that the Blood Angels were the first Space Marine chapter to encounter the genestealer threat on a space hulk. That might make for interesting video at some point. Also I know that in very old lore the Deathwing Terminators of the Dark Angels have their own history tied to the genestealers too

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks Рік тому +3

    Thank you for making this video. Very concise and informative. Really fascinating to learn the Tyranid lore, I thought they were a background noise like the Orks in the universe not a recent appearance. Keep up the good work.

  • @Jon-ey4el
    @Jon-ey4el Рік тому +5

    We're pronouncing it Tie-ran-ids until moral improves!

    • @ArbitorIan
      @ArbitorIan  Рік тому +3

      Is that morale or moraaaaal?

  • @moyosoreakinlawon5632
    @moyosoreakinlawon5632 Рік тому +1

    I swear I could literally watch his videos all day😁

  • @Blome123
    @Blome123 Рік тому +1

    I believe that the only way the Nids can get pushed back is by the necrons

  • @kowalski173
    @kowalski173 Рік тому

    Thank you for continuing to make these lore videos. binging through all your other ones too

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 Рік тому

    Excellent video. I love seeing old maps & codex art get used again.

  • @goforitpainting
    @goforitpainting Рік тому +2

    I look forward to the sequel.

  • @2guys1cliplol
    @2guys1cliplol 9 місяців тому

    Also dont forget that the scyths of the Emperor were also infected with the gene stealer kiss as well and still affects some marines in that chapter

  • @thunderwarrior2459
    @thunderwarrior2459 Рік тому +2

    Tierenids look at me we are not the same

  • @joelwashere5382
    @joelwashere5382 Рік тому +1

    Love your videos bro

  • @snoophogg85
    @snoophogg85 Рік тому +2

    Really enjoying this series!

  • @klavakkhazga3996
    @klavakkhazga3996 Рік тому +3

    Good old Yriel could use a new model!

  • @HereticalKitsune
    @HereticalKitsune Рік тому

    So many names of places and characters from my childhood!

  • @tonioforban4192
    @tonioforban4192 Рік тому

    Another great videos !👍
    I think tyrannical wars are my favorite conflicts in the 40K universe

  • @haroldsandahl6408
    @haroldsandahl6408 Рік тому +6

    What do you think the newest hive fleet will get named? Hive Fleet Big Fish?

    • @alastaircollins1145
      @alastaircollins1145 Рік тому +6

      Hive Fleet THIS BIG, I swear!

    • @ArbitorIan
      @ArbitorIan  Рік тому +7

      Unfortunately, given current GW naming conventions, it's more likely to be BIGFISHOLAX. More copywriteable.

    • @HistoritorJimaldus
      @HistoritorJimaldus Рік тому +1

      @@ArbitorIanLeBiathan ;)

    • @alastaircollins1145
      @alastaircollins1145 Рік тому +2

      Oooh, I googled "big fish of myth" and first hit was 'Bahamut" which I think would be genuinely usable.

    • @ArbitorIan
      @ArbitorIan  Рік тому +3

      Isn't Bahamut and Behemoth the same reference?

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205
    @fernandozavaletabustos205 Рік тому

    Another great video as always!

  • @MHR1001
    @MHR1001 Рік тому +1

    Nice video thanks 👍

  • @davidmilne6259
    @davidmilne6259 Рік тому

    Great video thanks

  • @jonharrison9222
    @jonharrison9222 Рік тому

    Iyanden was both large and populous by Eldar standards. You include a picture of the text saying so during this very video.
    Cassius discovered the genestealer cult long before Hive Fleet Behemoth arrived.

  • @bozoforce
    @bozoforce 5 місяців тому +1

    Why do the Tyrannids vaguely resemble the Yuuzhan vong from old star Wars?

  • @Blacknight8850
    @Blacknight8850 Рік тому

    4:40 - Apparently the role of Inquisitor Agmar is being played by John Goodman?

  • @Jhonka8807
    @Jhonka8807 Рік тому +2

    Has there ever been an explanation as to how the tyranids survive and cross the vast distances of intergalactic space? Presumably they would not be able to use the warp because there would not be sufficient psychic energy in those spaces.

    • @manofaction1807
      @manofaction1807 Рік тому +1

      Hive Fleets are a biomass. they are large and spore sized masses, like a wave...

    • @Yurt_enthusiast7
      @Yurt_enthusiast7 Рік тому +2

      They also use the collected psyche of their Genestealer cults as a beacon to navigate through the void

    • @paulyg405
      @paulyg405 Рік тому +5

      they don't use the warp, they travel slower than light speed. so your question is a good one, if the distances between galaxies are approx 2.5 million light years (between milky way and Andromeda as an example) they would need to consume their own biomass or go into stasis or something. And it also makes you wonder how they could have seen the Pharos beacon or the Astronomicon from those distances. There's a great old short story called 'Hive Fleet Horror' that digs into some of the tyranid questions. Now with all that nerding out of the way, the TLDR is that none of it makes any sense :P

  • @cmendr011
    @cmendr011 Рік тому +1

    Bay-hay-moth??? I thought it was Bah-He-Moth?? Tie-ra-nids?? Tir-ra-nids?? What is going on??

    • @robcanisto8635
      @robcanisto8635 Місяць тому

      dang Bri' 'ish and their weird English English. smh.

  • @markhanson9508
    @markhanson9508 Рік тому +3

    Really love lore delivered coherently with no worries about the presenter being a na... fas... problematic individual.

  • @stumodelmaker
    @stumodelmaker Рік тому

    Love the video as always but not gonna lie, the 'Tie' ranid thing slowly broke my brain. Never heard it pronounced that way before.

  • @22espec
    @22espec Рік тому

    I wonder if there is going to be a Simurgh Fleet in the future

  • @lukemcdonladson6648
    @lukemcdonladson6648 Рік тому

    Always Entertaining ... ✌️💚

  • @Modenut
    @Modenut Рік тому

    They could use Inmate "4474-A-*RIDDICK*"!!
    **nods gravely**
    I'll show myself out...

  • @JoshuaKevinPerry
    @JoshuaKevinPerry Рік тому

    I'm just looking forward to the new lore and the idea the tire nids can HATE.

    • @johnnybigbones4955
      @johnnybigbones4955 Рік тому +1

      Ugh, I really dislike that personally. There was a great quote in one of the old books from Inquisitor Agmar:
      "The more I learn about these aliens, the more I come to understand what drives them, the more I hate them. I hate them for what they are and for what they may one day become. I hate them not because they hate us but because they are incapable of good, honest, human hatred."

  • @bunnydexter7178
    @bunnydexter7178 Рік тому +6

    Weird? The comments are from 6 days ago. But the upload is only 10 minutes ago :/

    • @sgfwalterodimmm824
      @sgfwalterodimmm824 Рік тому +5

      patreon i think?

    • @GaryKeenan
      @GaryKeenan Рік тому +7

      Time dilation of the Shadow in the warps manifestation!!

    • @ArbitorIan
      @ArbitorIan  Рік тому +4

      If you'd like to see these videos six days ago.... *opens time-travelling trenchcoat of dodgy patreon links*

  • @elbil100
    @elbil100 Рік тому +5

    Love your videos! Can't stop hearing TAIranids and BEYhemoth though, when its really TYRanids and BeHEEmoth ;)

  • @benjones9330
    @benjones9330 Рік тому

    Is that John Goodman at 4:44?

  • @geofff.3343
    @geofff.3343 Рік тому +2

    Tyranid is only named after a planet in universe, in reality some creator liked the portmanteau of Tyrant and nid, a common word ending with n taxonomy, especially bees. So just as one might say tyrannical with a softer I sound, one might say it with a harder I sound. The in-universe name is clearly a retroformation to make it work.

    • @ArbitorIan
      @ArbitorIan  Рік тому +2

      Yeah, this is what I think. The original (as far as I remember) was as you say Tyrant. But of course, that was in the days before audiobooks and youtube, so nobody actually knew. And at some point the trend became 'tirranid', EVEN THOUGH they're led by, say, Hive Tyrants.

    • @MagralhoPT
      @MagralhoPT Рік тому +2

      @@ArbitorIan hive TYRANT has nothing to do with tyranids, the same way you have hive guards, tyrant guards and tyranid primes, they are all named after their behavior within the swarm, and the old concept that the leaders (hive tyrants) act their will upon mindless swarms, like a tyrant imposing its will upon those below.
      This stems from the old lore vision of the tyranids, the same way necrons, that have not been fully fleshed out into the modern times.
      Back in the day, the spotlight only shinned on the imperium, space marines and their characters, orks, necrons, nids, they were all just cannon fodder to prop the imperium, pay no mind to those xenos.

    • @maliciousbloke
      @maliciousbloke Рік тому

      @@ArbitorIan "EVEN THOUGH they're led by, say, Hive Tyrants"
      Henceforth those shall be known as Hive Tirrants, just to make it fit :)

    • @DiceandGlory
      @DiceandGlory Рік тому +1

      Wouldn't surprise me. Skaven comes from Scavenger so the convention fits

    • @Tsotha
      @Tsotha Рік тому

      @@ArbitorIan not having English as a first language I always said "tye-ranid" precisely because they are led by Hive Tyrants so I assumed the name Tyranid basically meant "small tyrant" or "related to a tyrant"

  • @TheMonkeyherb
    @TheMonkeyherb Рік тому +2

    First I think? Somehow found this in your playlist😊

  • @joshpuffpufftekken
    @joshpuffpufftekken Рік тому

    Ian is on a green screen. I suspect he is actually on a Space Hulk

  • @michaelgrey1351
    @michaelgrey1351 Рік тому +4

    I'm old enough that I still haven't forgiven GW for rolling Genestealers into the Tyranid lore. Also making Dark Angels Green. And bring back native american deathwing!

  • @jasoncaldwell5627
    @jasoncaldwell5627 Рік тому

    Worst of all the Hive fleets was Hive Fleets Jerry.
    Jerry was a different kind of Hive Fleet..."special" was the least offensive term.
    Yes, they were the "special needs" fleet- they clumsily swarmed into each system, making everyone feel bad about killing them. Some chapter of Ultramarine even tried to show them how to rip and tear at the defenses, but it was all a big mess, really.
    In the end, the Imperium seeded three small systems to Hive Fleet Jerry and told them that they'd routed the Emperor's forces, gave the Swarmlord a blue ribbon and a hug and departed the planet.

  • @thenumbere1045
    @thenumbere1045 Рік тому +2

    Insect lunch fleet 2

  • @Razorblaydes2652
    @Razorblaydes2652 Рік тому +1

    The eldar population in the current setting can’t be more than 10 million cause I’ve heard too many retelling’s of eldar slaughters and they don’t appear to reproduce especially quickly even under the stress of endangerment

  • @dallonrobbins5078
    @dallonrobbins5078 Рік тому +2

    Hunger is the only reason

  • @jeffblye7913
    @jeffblye7913 Рік тому

    Teer-an-ids, bro. Teer-an-ids.

    • @daveeol1987
      @daveeol1987 Рік тому

      You know nothing

    • @jeffblye7913
      @jeffblye7913 Рік тому

      @daveeol1987 Well formed argument.

    • @daveeol1987
      @daveeol1987 Рік тому

      @@jeffblye7913 bro you know nothing bro

    • @jeffblye7913
      @jeffblye7913 Рік тому

      @daveeol1987 That's better, but still doesn't quite make any kind of rational point pertinent to the pronunciation of Teer-an-ids.

    • @daveeol1987
      @daveeol1987 Рік тому

      @@jeffblye7913 do you correct everyone who say tomato the wrong way in such a condescending way aswell?

  • @cyanideinmycereal1077
    @cyanideinmycereal1077 Рік тому +1

    I wish the 10e Tyranids were a different hive fleet. Getting tired of “Leviathan - Again!”

  • @darrenivey4273
    @darrenivey4273 Рік тому +4

    So happy to hear somone else finally saying Tyranids correctly! 😊

    • @ArbitorIan
      @ArbitorIan  Рік тому +8

      See? *looks around the comments section*
      SEEE?

    • @MagralhoPT
      @MagralhoPT Рік тому +2

      How on the big E' holy light is this correct? Even GW made a video to address the correct pronunciantion of multiple things (including tyranids).

    • @daveeol1987
      @daveeol1987 Рік тому

      ​@@MagralhoPT what do some guys in 2023 know about the origional pronunciation..... thats right nothing

    • @MagralhoPT
      @MagralhoPT Рік тому +1

      @@daveeol1987 what is your comment meant to say? Cant tell if its a tirade against what pronunciation, care to elaborate?
      I just use the lattest GW info as the most up to date and correct source of info, after all, they are the creators.

    • @daveeol1987
      @daveeol1987 Рік тому

      @@MagralhoPT are they the original creators?

  • @Brickfrog427
    @Brickfrog427 Рік тому +3

    I gotta say, Hive Fleet Kraken doesn't have one of the best paint schemes. The red chitin and warm flesh tones just don't look as great as Leviathan with purple chitin and cool pale flesh tones. Levithan flesh can have shades of red, pink and purple.
    Hmm. I've got too much Tyranid paint schemes on the brain, I'm thinking of how to paint the Leviathan box.

    • @punkjay4681
      @punkjay4681 Рік тому

      Yea, Kraken paint scheme is so lame...

  • @NecromediaNetwork
    @NecromediaNetwork Рік тому +1

    So relieved someone else says TIE-ranids. I slowly started saying TEA-ranids but nah, Tyranids!

  • @romymccray7006
    @romymccray7006 Рік тому +1

    BUGS

  • @noirceuillesombre3472
    @noirceuillesombre3472 Рік тому +5

    Your pronunciation of Tyranids (TEAR-rin-Nids) was a bit distracting, but otherwise riveting narrative. Thank you! 🤙🏼😎

    • @MagralhoPT
      @MagralhoPT Рік тому +5

      Its not diatracting, its WRONG and infuriating.

    • @noirceuillesombre3472
      @noirceuillesombre3472 Рік тому

      @@MagralhoPT 👍

    • @johnnybigbones4955
      @johnnybigbones4955 Рік тому +2

      I've always pronounced it the same as Ian does, like "Tyrant". I can see doing it like "Tyranny" as an acceptable alternative, but I have no idea why people get so annoyed about it.

    • @MagralhoPT
      @MagralhoPT Рік тому +2

      @@johnnybigbones4955 its fine that you have no idea why people are upset. Gw confirmed the correct pronunciation (and its not the initial one in this video) so, lets all just get along and do it right from now on

    • @daveeol1987
      @daveeol1987 Рік тому

      ​@@MagralhoPT haha pronunciation nazi

  • @ReadyAimFire_
    @ReadyAimFire_ Рік тому +3

    4 genestealer cultists downvoted.

  • @gatekeeper84
    @gatekeeper84 Рік тому +1

    Your outro music is too loud and the volume is too high. No one trying to fall asleep will watch your channel this way.

  • @amosb1452
    @amosb1452 Рік тому

    comment for the comment god!

  • @Yurt_enthusiast7
    @Yurt_enthusiast7 Рік тому +1

    Gotta love all the nerds in the comment section who thinks there's a single way to pronounce thing😁

  • @MagralhoPT
    @MagralhoPT Рік тому +3

    0:00 tyranids is not pronounced this way! Say it properly!

    • @ArbitorIan
      @ArbitorIan  Рік тому +4

      I bet you aren't even the real swarmlord!

    • @MagralhoPT
      @MagralhoPT Рік тому +1

      @@ArbitorIan ehe ofc Im not! Im just a dude...

    • @MagralhoPT
      @MagralhoPT Рік тому +1

      @@ArbitorIan Looking forward for your covering of the 4th tyrannic war! (With proper addressing the faction)