We had an HD16 about 30 years ago. Was a cable blade but had its own lift mechanism at the front, Carco winch and the Buda engine. Direct drive 3 speed with diesel operated torque convertor. Thing was an absolute animal. Pushed and pulled way beyond its class. My uncle was the man who operated it. He was a professor on that machine. RIP to both of them. My uncle passed in 1999 and the 16 met its demise at the hands of the person who purchased it after my uncles passing sometime in the mid 2000s. Unfortunately, was scrapped. Love your vids. Keep up the great work. 🙂
That is a really nice crawler they were said to be more summer time operator friendly with direct electric start and less grease fittings and more sealed bearings on the undercarriage system. That is a Buda Allis Chamlers diesel engine it would have been a real pusher in its day. Keep up the great videos
We also had a HD16 cable laid. It had a front mount Garwood winch. It had a Buda motor, also with a torque converter that used diesel fuel. Very powerful machine if you put it up to something it wouldn't move, it would spin the tracks. 80 to 100 gallons of fuel per day.
I remember back in the 1970's as a young mechanic in the Phone Companies heavy plant workshop, they brought in an HD16 with a broken back. Apparently a D7 was ploughing in some large phone cable between two towns, through a swamp. They called it quits when it was bogged to the footplates. In came the HD16 to pull it out, but no such luck. So they brought in a D9 from interstate to help & hitched it to the front of the HD16. This is what broke the HD16's back. It started to pull apart behind the engine. We had another HD16 with a ruined engine, & the broken one had a good engine. Much work later & we had a good HD16 with a good engine, & the broken one with a dud engine which was auctioned off for parts or scrap. A second D9 assisted the first to salvage the D7 which kept the plough in the ground all during the rescue.
In 1975 at march air force base we ran buda diesels in 3 generators . They were from the early 50s . They had rusamaster fuel pumps .denis from santa rosa ca
Hi Squach. Done my learning on a Allis HD11 many many years ago. I’ve since progressed to Cat D11 and a self built D12(1250 hp). It was stretched to accomodate the engine which is out of a haul truck. They call it the super dozer here in Qld Australia. Power power power. Cheers n beers.
I bought two of them several years ago cheap at auction, sold as non running. Got new batteries and bunch of ether, had one running before auction ended. Had plows on them for putting in telecom cable. They are power shift, hydraulic, and are awesome machines. Have one as parts with almost new track chain. The running one got a dozer blade, and gets used quite often on the farm.
That like-new track chain is worth nearly as much as a whole good running machine itself, with the way good undercarriage components are getting so card to find for our antique dozers - nice score! 👍
Yes, AC bought out Buda. The WD-45D used the 232 Buda. I know the later tractors such as the D-17D & D-19D used Budas labeled as AC. Not sure when they dropped that design. The one on my WD-45D is a beast to start. Even on hot days, I have to put a Mapp torch in the intake for several minutes before she starts. But, when she does, she'll fight a 9 shank all purpose plow in red clay. If I had enough weight and a beefier cooling system, I'm pretty sure she'd pull it.
I always appreciate other brand content, especially in this case as my Dad owned the smaller 11B model and i cant remember much about it! I know it had a torque amplifier type lever because i was told not to touch it when i had to move the machine one day. I was 11yo so naturally i used it😄
I’ve actually heard good things about much of the Allis equipment of that time period from a few of my fellow Caterpillar Club enthusiasts who actually ran both brands. They all said that A/C had a few models that beat anything that Cat had, hands down.
Thanks, what a beast! I wonder if after the track adjuster on the right side failed, they used the left side of the blade predominately. Plus the seat is offset to the left as someone already pointed out.
Just for a moment during your description of the operator's controls I thought I was watching Alexander Botts, "Earthworm Tractors," describing the controls on a Cat D8.
on old construction iron, i just saw as bit of yard art a diesel 40 hooked with a Heil dig and Haul scraper. and history on Heil dirt equipment would be interesting to me
My friend I don’t think I’d be calling those ROPS - that’s just a canopy. Those pipes would not qualify as ROPS in the event the tractor rolled over, they would not be certified or protect the operator from being crushed.
People can help me out. I believe the correct pronunciation of Buda engines is not the same as the South Asian religious figure. "Boooda" It is more along the lines of "Bewuda" Similar to the way "beautiful" starts its pronunciation. I am sorry for being pedantic. Family trait. Great walk around! That front idler would be out of line so the whole track would be askew and wearing badly. If it is a museum piece of equipment, it adds character. If I wanted to use it, I don't like character.
This would be a nice tractor for Diesel Creek however he already has machines bigger than this. I'm kind of curious that this is a straight starter diesel engine, no more gasoline to diesel engine. Not sure when they stopped making that setup. You should do more of these walk arounds even if you don't know much about the machine.
The AC diesels were all direct start from the beginning. They started with Detroit diesels then about 1956 they bought Budha and made their own engines.
I enjoyed this vid, and the Allis Chalmers tractors of that age and time were strong, but the loaders were ground breaking, ( see HD 5 ) but very slow hydraulics compared to the Caterpillars who quickly surpassed the HD 5. Allis tried to counter with the better, HD6 but never caught the 955, came close with the HD 7G B, that had the 3500 Allis engine and powershift, but it was fragile, glass bull gears and more problems. Then came Fiat and Allis Chalmers was gone,
We had an HD16 about 30 years ago. Was a cable blade but had its own lift mechanism at the front, Carco winch and the Buda engine. Direct drive 3 speed with diesel operated torque convertor. Thing was an absolute animal. Pushed and pulled way beyond its class. My uncle was the man who operated it. He was a professor on that machine. RIP to both of them. My uncle passed in 1999 and the 16 met its demise at the hands of the person who purchased it after my uncles passing sometime in the mid 2000s. Unfortunately, was scrapped. Love your vids. Keep up the great work. 🙂
That twisted adjusting rod would be a real adventure to fix!
That is a really nice crawler they were said to be more summer time operator friendly with direct electric start and less grease fittings and more sealed bearings on the undercarriage system. That is a Buda Allis Chamlers diesel engine it would have been a real pusher in its day. Keep up the great videos
We also had a HD16 cable laid. It had a front mount Garwood winch. It had a Buda motor, also with a torque converter that used diesel fuel. Very powerful machine if you put it up to something it wouldn't move, it would spin the tracks. 80 to 100 gallons of fuel per day.
I remember back in the 1970's as a young mechanic in the Phone Companies heavy plant workshop, they brought in an HD16 with a broken back.
Apparently a D7 was ploughing in some large phone cable between two towns, through a swamp. They called it quits when it was bogged to the footplates.
In came the HD16 to pull it out, but no such luck. So they brought in a D9 from interstate to help & hitched it to the front of the HD16. This is what broke the HD16's back. It started to pull apart behind the engine.
We had another HD16 with a ruined engine, & the broken one had a good engine. Much work later & we had a good HD16 with a good engine, & the broken one with a dud engine which was auctioned off for parts or scrap.
A second D9 assisted the first to salvage the D7 which kept the plough in the ground all during the rescue.
In 1975 at march air force base we ran buda diesels in 3 generators . They were from the early 50s . They had rusamaster fuel pumps .denis from santa rosa ca
Looks like you were right about the track adjustment being spindly.
Thanks for posting! I love these walk-arounds
Thanks for the video Toby. I sure do wish these old machines could tell stories of days gone by. Cheers
Hi Squach. Done my learning on a Allis HD11 many many years ago. I’ve since progressed to Cat D11 and a self built D12(1250 hp). It was stretched to accomodate the engine which is out of a haul truck. They call it the super dozer here in Qld Australia. Power power power. Cheers n beers.
That would be one of Mearns D12s wouldn’t it, is he still making new ones or just running with what he’s got?
Rick and Claudia bought Don out. They are running the same old machines.
I bought two of them several years ago cheap at auction, sold as non running. Got new batteries and bunch of ether, had one running before auction ended. Had plows on them for putting in telecom cable. They are power shift, hydraulic, and are awesome machines. Have one as parts with almost new track chain. The running one got a dozer blade, and gets used quite often on the farm.
That like-new track chain is worth nearly as much as a whole good running machine itself, with the way good undercarriage components are getting so card to find for our antique dozers - nice score! 👍
Yes, AC bought out Buda. The WD-45D used the 232 Buda. I know the later tractors such as the D-17D & D-19D used Budas labeled as AC. Not sure when they dropped that design.
The one on my WD-45D is a beast to start. Even on hot days, I have to put a Mapp torch in the intake for several minutes before she starts. But, when she does, she'll fight a 9 shank all purpose plow in red clay. If I had enough weight and a beefier cooling system, I'm pretty sure she'd pull it.
Nice walk around Toby, for someone who says they don’t know much about the dozer you do very well. Thanks
Since the operator is offset to the left side of the machine it makes sense that they would favor that side of the blade as well.
Awesome, I love everything allis chalmers, construction and ag
I always appreciate other brand content, especially in this case as my Dad owned the smaller 11B model and i cant remember much about it!
I know it had a torque amplifier type lever because i was told not to touch it when i had to move the machine one day. I was 11yo so naturally i used it😄
I do remember they were rivals to the Cats back in the '60s. Mighty fine Dozer for sure.
I’ve actually heard good things about much of the Allis equipment of that time period from a few of my fellow Caterpillar Club enthusiasts who actually ran both brands. They all said that A/C had a few models that beat anything that Cat had, hands down.
Any chance you did a walk around on the other old iron next to the AC dozer? I spy a 4-71 Detroit.
Interesting old machine, thanks for the walk around. Colin
I really enjoy your tractor walk arounds!
Thanks, what a beast! I wonder if after the track adjuster on the right side failed, they used the left side of the blade predominately. Plus the seat is offset to the left as someone already pointed out.
Excellent thanks
I used to have a HD5 and a HD6. Both of mine were loaders.
I love those big old AC dozers. Speaking of big and old reminds me of your rock crusher. Any chance we will be seeing that soon? 😉
Good Video
Just for a moment during your description of the operator's controls I thought I was watching Alexander Botts, "Earthworm Tractors," describing the controls on a Cat D8.
on old construction iron, i just saw as bit of yard art a diesel 40 hooked with a Heil dig and Haul scraper. and history on Heil dirt equipment would be interesting to me
You would be right about the size between a D7 and a D 8
thanks
I know of one for sale in the Seattle area if anyone is looking. It is said to turn over but has not been started for some time.
Perhaps the left side of the blade was favored because the operator's seat is offset to the left side?
I would think that they did most of their edge cutting on the left side of the blade due to the left side seat location (Better View).
If you ever come across a Allis HD41 please do a walk around
There's one that lives at the Albany Pioneer Days show in Albany, MN but I don't know enough about those to make a very good video.
I am intrested in the leTournoua scraper sitting beside the HD 16.
I'm interested to see the aerial video, at 6:14
caption; "Squatch caught in arse of Allis-."
Neat Allis
When you pull a cable scraper or so called pan you had to drop the blade cause you have to use both fair lead on a scraper pan
Toby, you can always borrow Seniors cell phone and Google the piece of equipment that you're looking at and get facts that a way 0:57
Sure could but then what would the comment community have to chat about? 🤔…🤣 ✌️
I bet them 2 levers on the floor are brake locks
My friend I don’t think I’d be calling those ROPS - that’s just a canopy. Those pipes would not qualify as ROPS in the event the tractor rolled over, they would not be certified or protect the operator from being crushed.
If squatch calls em ROPs they’re ROPs ☝️ nuff said!!! 😆😝 ✌️🤙
Many lives and injuries were saved by non certified, shop built structures. They pre-existed the idea of a factory engineered and tested ROPS...
Toby my hd16 is one year older and has the Detroit 6-71
What year do you think this is? We trained on
HD16- AC, TD 18- 24, and of course on CAT D7-8-9
FT. Leonard Wood, MO 1966 and had some in RVN.
Not sure of the exact year, but they built these HD-16’s from 1955 to 1965.
Can we get a look at that Euclid(?) dump truck? 😁
I didn't film that, it's a bit too far outside of my wheelhouse. When I see anything Euclid, all I think is "ugly, loud, and green" lol
Curious what was next to the dozer?
Nice old hunk of iron....
That's a heavy unit!
People can help me out. I believe the correct pronunciation of Buda engines is not the same as the South Asian religious figure. "Boooda" It is more along the lines of "Bewuda" Similar to the way "beautiful" starts its pronunciation. I am sorry for being pedantic. Family trait. Great walk around! That front idler would be out of line so the whole track would be askew and wearing badly. If it is a museum piece of equipment, it adds character. If I wanted to use it, I don't like character.
That’s how I’ve always heard it pronounced by the old timers.
Did Kyle buy that one too? I thought he was a AC equipment fan.
Who isn’t ? 🤔 love me a Cat but there’s always enough love to share with Alice everyone enjoys a little strange on the side 😝🤦♂️🤷♂️ 🥹
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This would be a nice tractor for Diesel Creek however he already has machines bigger than this. I'm kind of curious that this is a straight starter diesel engine, no more gasoline to diesel engine. Not sure when they stopped making that setup. You should do more of these walk arounds even if you don't know much about the machine.
It was International who had the gas to diesel start engines.
@@brucejessieOh ok, I might have remembered it wrong. But in hind site both IH dozer and the Allies dozers of this vintage are both very interesting.
@@SuperMAZ007 Agreed. I love the old machinery and cars, motorcycles, tools etc. lol. Have a great day, my friend! 🙂
The AC diesels were all direct start from the beginning. They started with Detroit diesels then about 1956 they bought Budha and made their own engines.
I’m guessing this was filmed on Thursday
That is correct 👍
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Isn't that the truth. Abuse, and wear tell a tale. Thank you. Looked like Halstad. Leave it to a Norwegian to use something up.
I enjoyed this vid, and the Allis Chalmers tractors of that age and time were strong, but the loaders were ground breaking, ( see HD 5 ) but very slow hydraulics compared to the Caterpillars who quickly surpassed the HD 5. Allis tried to counter with the better, HD6 but never caught the 955, came close with the HD 7G B, that had the 3500 Allis engine and powershift, but it was fragile, glass bull gears and more problems. Then came Fiat and Allis Chalmers was gone,
Solstad Construction?