This was such a really good video..just wish there was another camera covering other angles to see wht you were explaining but super helpful in the end..Thank you both somuch🌲 🌲
Thanks for watching. I agree, I didn't know what my daughter was seeing and when it was finished she didn't have time to do another video. So I just went with what I had. Just can't find good help these days.
Hi, I have made my Fid’s from knitting needles, you can get sizes to over 1/2 inch,cheap,durable and you can easily cut the base at an angle for easy insertion of the line.
I am going to do this in the next month or so. I am planning to use 1/8" amsteel. I am also going to modify my hawk helium sticks by chopping them to 22" and putting on a DIY versabutton. A few questions, if you have time: 1. what size spacer would you use for the versabutton? I am tempted to simply double the amsteel diameter or go a little bigger because this system doesn't require the ropes to squeeze against each other and a little room in there might make the loop easier to disengage for removal from tree. 2. is there any advantage/disadvantage you can see to making the first eye very small so that the bolt of the versabutton must be fed through it (and it can't be pulled off and on the versabutton). I suppose the advantage is that it isn't ever coming off there! I'm considering putting a rubber stopper on the free end of the amsteel so I can swing it around larger trees without much noise. Thoughts on that?
If you can find a bushing that is 1/4" that will be plenty. Make the first daisy chain just big enough to go over it. I like being able to take the rope off of the versa button so I just have the first loop just big enough to get it on. It isn't going to fall off but it can be removed if you want to take it off for any reason. Removing the versa button to remove the rope is a hassle. As for a weight on the end, that will probably work ok, but, I just lay the daisy chain rope over the top of the stick and by holding the bottom of the stick I can reach it around the back of the tree and allow my other hand to reach the rope. It essentially makes my arm 2 feet longer. I find that easier because I don't get the rope tangled in the brush. There is always brush.
I am either going to do this or go with the mini versastraps. I am thinking the strap might work a bit better on smoother bark trees. Have you tried the 7/64" on something smooth like quaking aspen?
I go over that in a subsequent video, but basically, it's more secure, not as bulky and doesn't slip on the tree as much, which makes it quieter. The ropes wrap up really small on the stick so they are easier to stack. Thanks for watching. Let me know if you have other questions.
Hey Paul, know this is an older video, appreciate it, question: am a bigger guy, want a daisy chain of 1/4 " amsteel to attach my platform, is it just as easy to make a daisy chain of the larger rope?
I go 280 with all my gear. No problems here. Some guys use 1/8" or even 3/16". Those are obviously more stout ropes. I'll keep an eye on these but so far I've had no issues at all.
So can you pass the one side down through the center of the other side after making the first loop that goes over the versa button? This would be through the roughly 18” straight section of amsteel line prior to making your daise chain loops. Not sure if you follow but it seems to me that having one thicker amsteel line vs the two independent lines would be better? Just a thought. Do you see any reason structurally why this shouldn’t be done? Thanks
Sure, give it a try. It's not easy passing it through but you could use a wire and grab ahold of it to pass it though. I don't think you'll find and significant difference in the use of the daisy chain but it might look clean and cool.
there are guys who make them and sell them. I just don't know who, offhand. I made a gear strap with offset loops so they stay open when the gear strap is tight to the tree. Way less than an ounce and packs so small you have to be careful not to lose it. lol Love it. I sold my Tether Gear Strap as it was bulky. Nice, but bulky.
If you have an old .22 cleaning kit, the aluminum rods are perfect. They are threaded also.
7:21 “Helps if you’re on something “. Never heard that before. Nice demo.
Paul, thanks for posting the video. I will definitely be trying this. Tell your daughter she did an excellent job video taping...
haha, I'll let her know.
Great effort.
Great thanks 👍
This was such a really good video..just wish there was another camera covering other angles to see wht you were explaining but super helpful in the end..Thank you both somuch🌲 🌲
Thanks for watching. I agree, I didn't know what my daughter was seeing and when it was finished she didn't have time to do another video. So I just went with what I had. Just can't find good help these days.
Hi, I have made my Fid’s from knitting needles, you can get sizes to over 1/2 inch,cheap,durable and you can easily cut the base at an angle for easy insertion of the line.
I tried knitting needles too, but found the smaller sizes (small enough for the 7/64" am steel) to be solid, not hollow in the middle.
The hardware I made the fids from is called a Screw Post.
Paul Crave, are these available for purchase? Great video! Thanks
What is Amsteel and where do you get it??
I am going to do this in the next month or so. I am planning to use 1/8" amsteel. I am also going to modify my hawk helium sticks by chopping them to 22" and putting on a DIY versabutton. A few questions, if you have time: 1. what size spacer would you use for the versabutton? I am tempted to simply double the amsteel diameter or go a little bigger because this system doesn't require the ropes to squeeze against each other and a little room in there might make the loop easier to disengage for removal from tree. 2. is there any advantage/disadvantage you can see to making the first eye very small so that the bolt of the versabutton must be fed through it (and it can't be pulled off and on the versabutton). I suppose the advantage is that it isn't ever coming off there!
I'm considering putting a rubber stopper on the free end of the amsteel so I can swing it around larger trees without much noise. Thoughts on that?
If you can find a bushing that is 1/4" that will be plenty. Make the first daisy chain just big enough to go over it. I like being able to take the rope off of the versa button so I just have the first loop just big enough to get it on. It isn't going to fall off but it can be removed if you want to take it off for any reason. Removing the versa button to remove the rope is a hassle. As for a weight on the end, that will probably work ok, but, I just lay the daisy chain rope over the top of the stick and by holding the bottom of the stick I can reach it around the back of the tree and allow my other hand to reach the rope. It essentially makes my arm 2 feet longer. I find that easier because I don't get the rope tangled in the brush. There is always brush.
I am either going to do this or go with the mini versastraps.
I am thinking the strap might work a bit better on smoother bark trees.
Have you tried the 7/64" on something smooth like quaking aspen?
MrShysterme telephone poles. Don’t get much smoother than that.
What color 7/64 amsteel are you using? I'm kinda torn between the black and the silver, wish I could find it in a drab color.
Alex Cerveniak I use black. It fades a bit over time and looks grey. Silver I think is too bright.
What are the advantages to a daisy chain in lieu of 1/4" amsteel rope mod
I go over that in a subsequent video, but basically, it's more secure, not as bulky and doesn't slip on the tree as much, which makes it quieter. The ropes wrap up really small on the stick so they are easier to stack.
Thanks for watching. Let me know if you have other questions.
What kind of combing stick is shown in this video?
Climbing Sticks are DIY sticks. See my video on how they are made.
Hey Paul, know this is an older video, appreciate it, question: am a bigger guy, want a daisy chain of 1/4 " amsteel to attach my platform, is it just as easy to make a daisy chain of the larger rope?
yes, probably even easier.
appreciate the response, have a great weekend
What color Amsteel do you buy? Is that black or silver?
Black. It loses some of its color after a while and turns gray.
What is the advantage of this vs the strap that comes with the stick . I have Beast sticks and they really lock on the tree with the stock straps
It's just lighter and packs easier. The stock straps are fine too. They do work great. I just like to have less bulk and no buckles to deal with.
Is it strong enough to hold a 250-300 pound guy?
I go 280 with all my gear. No problems here. Some guys use 1/8" or even 3/16". Those are obviously more stout ropes. I'll keep an eye on these but so far I've had no issues at all.
Does anyone have a good source for ordering 7/64" Amsteel rope?
Try DutchWear dot com
They are called Chicago bolts.
Good video… just get some Selma fids. They are all at EVER use splicing 12 strand dynema.
Kind of expensive though.
@@paulcrave3112 I guess it depends on your needs. I’ve been using my set for many years, so they’ve certainly paid for themselves over time.
@@raypierce5818 l only splice amsteel occasionally.
I go 280 with all my gear no problem.
Where do you get your amsteel
Go to real deal amsteal. Luke will help you out. Luke Dautle.
So can you pass the one side down through the center of the other side after making the first loop that goes over the versa button? This would be through the roughly 18” straight section of amsteel line prior to making your daise chain loops. Not sure if you follow but it seems to me that having one thicker amsteel line vs the two independent lines would be better? Just a thought. Do you see any reason structurally why this shouldn’t be done? Thanks
Sure, give it a try. It's not easy passing it through but you could use a wire and grab ahold of it to pass it though. I don't think you'll find and significant difference in the use of the daisy chain but it might look clean and cool.
You telling me no one makes this that one can just purchase?? I don’t have time for this.
there are guys who make them and sell them. I just don't know who, offhand. I made a gear strap with offset loops so they stay open when the gear strap is tight to the tree. Way less than an ounce and packs so small you have to be careful not to lose it. lol Love it. I sold my Tether Gear Strap as it was bulky. Nice, but bulky.
NO SOUND!
Stephen DeHart hmmm. It always worked before.
Works for me.
I can hear it just fine.