Great informational video. When I had my goats...only got up to 13, those born on my farm that I kept, kept their horns. I bought some that were disbudded. A couple I sold were disbudded at buyers request. I did not ever perform the procedure myself. I paid another farmer to do this.
Good Morning, Goats have horns for a reason. Even in the earliest stories, the Bible for one, the herd of goats had horns. I can see leaving them on. God bless, be safe
I’m so glad you decided not to disbud your babies. That just seems so cruel. I’m an animal person no matter what it is and I hate to think of anyone putting an animal in pain on purpose. I cringe whenever my father in law puts the tags in cow ears and I’m sure it’s no worse than us getting our ears pierced haha
I am with you about disbudding. My goats all have their horns, except my dairy goat who had a disbudding gone wrong. Now she has one horn that is trying to grow into her head. I have tried banding that horn, but it does not seem to be working. I will have to take a saw to it. Now, I did have my bottle calf disbudded by a vet, but there is a HUGE difference between a goat and steer.
The #1 reason we do not dishorn any of our animals is because those horns are the main tool for them to keep their body temperature down in the hot environment. Goats don't sweat. They need their horns to cool their body.
@@monicaluketich3106 thank you for the information. I raise American Guinea Hogs. As all pigs, they can't control their body temperature either. Hence, always a mud hole during the hot months. Lots of straw bedding in the winter.
In today’s world no one has found an alternative to removing? Maybe grind the tips and round em off with resin or something??? Just a random idea to make a point don’t hate me for that specific idea 😂
It makes sense the horns can help the goats to defend themselves from predators.. I often wondered why they were dehorned.. just for that reason.. As you said though.. it depends on the situation the goat farms have..
I'm personal against debudding, each to their own. Another con I've saw with this procedure is there's a chance the horn could grow back if not done properly. I've seen some whom look almost like a unicorn and some that grow back and towards the eye causing the owner to have to keep getting it trimmed so it don't poke their eye out. That can become pricey if you have to have someone else like a vet to do it. Especially if they have to come out instead of taking it in. God Bless ya'll.
I'm against dehorning goats as well I have seen goats with all types of horn issues When this procedure isn't carried out correctly, basically the Wounded horn buds can cause More problems as they grow in all mangled, then if the horns twere left to grow naturally
Thank you for explaining this. I never heard of it. Kevin, I can’t imagine how scared you were when that baby passed out on you. I understand why some farmers would feel it has to be done but I’m so glad you do not do it.
I’m glad you leave the horns in place. Baby goats don’t need to go through that pain. Thanks for sharing this information. I know it’s a personal choice and im glad you have made the choice you’ve made.
I would have a hard time using that to dehorning the goats 🐐. I would think their horns would help them defend themselves better against predators. Thank you very educational. God bless Hidden Heights.
The main reason I chose to leave them on is I looked into the history of why people took them off, and then I checked into the purpose of the horns. The purpose of the horns is so much more then self defense. They regulate temperature for the goats. If they have a fever, you can tell by feeling the horns. The need to burn them off was because people wanted to, not for the goat itself. Horns are important for the goat. Glad you are leaving them on. Much better for the goats.
It was a great video and don't let people get under your skin it is your farm do it your way. God bless y'all I am praying for Reachel mom each day too. Old man cliff loves you too.
Horns are why we have Polled Herefords! In cows the horns hurt when they bump against you. When the vet dehorns they usually anesthetize. We had a couple of dehorned goats given to us and they wore collars, but I could see how they could choke if they fought a collar. I think it is safer to grab them by the horns. Great information guys!
I'm glad Y'all chose to not debud your goats. But like you said it's up to each one to decide which way works best for them. Love watching Y'all and love the way you keep it real. GOD BLESS Y'ALL.
Your farm, your goats,You have been raising goats for a long time. I trust you will do what you think is best for your animals. God bless you and your beautiful family.
If you don't have any, put hot wire up, so they'll stay off the fence. And we've had a couple disbudded goat's that would get their heads stuck in the field fencing. I've had a horned goat get her head constantly stuck in livestock panel(hog type panel's), so we'd have cut her out & the next time she'd do it, it'd be next to the hole from the last time.
I always say the same thing. Their property is gorgeous! We only have a piddly 2 acres, and noisy commuters and big rigs use the road a few acres over. (And they're about to widen it to 4 lanes). Still, it's better than a neighborhood even though some neighborhoods are quieter than where we are.
@@kristin-happytexan Wow, I hear you. I think their property stays green because of humidity. I have never been to Oklahoma, but I hear it's super humid in the summer. I think the reason it's called Hidden Heights Farm is because it is not visible from the main road. I have the impression you would have to get on a side road that takes you way way back in there where their farm is located. Other than the animals sounding off, can you imagine how peaceful and quiet it is on their property?!
@@davinawonderling9361 Loud noise really bothers me, so I definitely would treasure the quiet. (Around here it's fairly quiet on Sundays only, and late evenings. Although... the frogs, cicadas and crickets can be so loud at night it sounds like a jungle. Lol!) Here in Texas we have wicked humidity, too, and half of our grass is burned. It's a battle keeping it halfway decent.
@@kristin-happytexan I love the sounds of cicadas, frogs, and crickets! I am not a huge fan of a lot of noise, either, but I do love the sounds of nature.
If I had goats I would let them be, to be the coat they were made to be lolol. You guys are awesome. You do such a great job at everything you do. 👏 God bless
Also, they have some protection from injury by head butting other goats because their skulls have spongy protection naturally where the horns are. They still skin their heads up, but their brains are better protected. I learned that on the Discovery Channel lol.
You’re talking about African Nigerian miniature goats, that is very tasty milk. I remember when you all first got Mojo and a goat got its it’s head stuck in and Rachel told the goat just a minute and it was screaming like crazy. Mojo ran over to the goats fence and the goat had never seen Mojo before. Mojo barked once and the goat looked at Mojo and he got himself unstuck by himself real quick like and took off. Mojo went back to Rachel as if to say “Mama I took care of the problem for you.”. It was kind of funny and I knew then he was trained.
If I ever raise goats I would leave the horns the way God made them. I have watched others do that process and those babies cry out so bad it makes me cry so I cannot watch that process anymore. I like you think they look cool with their horns.
I love how yall care about your animals. Your hearts truly show the love of God in all things.. Pretty awesome to see. I couldn't help but laugh at Chip messing w the tripod, it reminds me of my 17 month old..LOL Has to touch it, push on it, taste it..LOL Yall have a great weekend. Be Blessed.
Had show lambs for my younger brother for a few years. They all had horns upon arrival. Twice I came home from work to find one had ripped the horn cover off, then caught one doing it right in front of me by rubbing his head against a corner fence post and panicking after getting stuck in the wire fencing. Imagine a lady in a business skirt and high heeled pumps chasing after a frenzied 100 pound lamb with a spice tin of alum to stop the bleeding by sprinkling it on the flapping flesh. 😂🤣😂 Ruined that outfit and ran my stockings. Pros and cons, but y’all gotta do what’s best for your situation. 👍 My grand daddy always said “A fence that won’t hold water won’t hold goats.”
I leave the horns on my goats. The biggest reason for me to leave them is so they can protect themselves from stay dogs and predators. I did try in the past to dehorn one of my goats, and it was a bad experience for me and the goat, so decided not to do it and let them be able to have their protection.
Kudos to you for not subjecting your goats to this unnecessary trauma. The natural shapes and characteristics at any species have evolved over generations for good reason. Altering them for human convenience is counterproductive, can be cruel, and usually with a modicum of efforts the purpose can be accomplished through other, kinder means. You two have demonstrated all of this with your video. I just recently found your channel. I greatly respect the way you manage your farm and you have a lovely little family.
I'm one of those gouging rarities! Lol. Growing up a little smaller that Kyia I was sitting loving on one of the tame goats. Something spooked him and he jerked his head back. Painfully one of his horns gouged into my forehead just below my hairline. I carry an indention still today. It wasn't even something back then living so far out that my parents even took me to the doctor for. Guess they figured it wasn't deep, it stopped bleeding and being there they probably couldn't stitch it.
HEY KEVIN AND RACHAEL! Great video. I too, will leave my goats horns on them. Easier to handle, and also for their protection. Thank you for the video, always looking forward to more. BTW Kevin, I sold my 3/4 kiko, 1/4 nubian doelings for 180 each LOL Not as much as I wanted but I was happy. They also went to a good home where they are going to be pets/weed eaters. Have a Blessed Weekend **HUGS & PRAYERS** from Kelly and the critters at Piney Haven Homestead.
Just a story I found interesting, a goat farmer I believe is in New Zealand. They time their breeding and the vet comes out to work all the babies, I think it was vaccines, deworming and de budding, they corralled them all in a small barn. The vets walked around and sedated them all, then did all the work they were doing and when procedures were all finished all of them started waking up. They were left in the barn til all were fully awake and then let out and fed. It was just a very interesting thing to watch.
Goat horns are a way for them to cool themselves because blood circulates thru the horn. In order to show goat's in our 4-H club's they had to be disbudded. I've got a few goat's that we've bought that were disbudded. With the predators we've had, they needed their horns. Though we had a mean buck (that was great at protecting his girl's) that sharpened the inside of his horns, that I wished didn't have horns. But I won't dehorn or disbud, but it is a personal thing. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for taking the time to explain the pros and cons. It’s one of he things we love about y’all. You want to educate people without treating them as if they are stupid. I have family over in Sand Springs , OK area. It’s beautiful country over that way. Had a field fire out behind their place the last time we visited. 120* in the shade. Straight up love your style. Kind hearted folks that y’all are.
I don’t think I COULD actually disbud a goat. I would rather run the possible risks and let the goat be natural. They are there for a reason after all.
I like that you don't dehorn your gosts. I highly recommend farmers who de-horn their kidds at least use lidocaine or another injectable anesthetic. numbing them helps to prevent pain and subsequent shock associated with the pain and the dehorning process. ❤️
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I used to work on a dairy farm and we used a iron like yours just had a different end on it looked like a milking inflation...only thing I didn't like was the thick smoke coming off the calves heads as I was holding lead rope and another guy burned them
If I had a larger area, I might not disbud, but I live on a smaller homestead and have to fence my goats in. I can't tell you how many times the goats have gotten stuck in that fence. When its 116, and they can't get out of the fence they can die easily. Also, the burn the iron causes is a 3rd degree burn that has no feeling so pain is minimal. I have had 3rd degree burns and know this to be true.
I watch alot of farming channels and by far I think y'all are the most realest channels on u tube. Every time I watch y'all I get a big smile.thank y'all
Thanks for this video, hubby and I will be getting goats and I think we will go with the horns. I've heard folks talking about the cons of leaving the horns, but I think I'd rather deal with that and let them be natural.
ty for covering this topic. With more people trying to raise their own meat, milk and farm animals they may see baby buck goats as cute, playful and entertaining and may get into breeding to expand their herd, many just don't think of things like horns. Know your farmer and know your vet. There are many that can botch a de-horning due to panic and some may have to repeat the process which may not be the best for the goat or you. I'm so glad you covered this. You covered this very well!
Thanks for all of the good advice. It will come in handy when I raise goats. I have been considering the horn question and trying to decide which way to go. I like the way the horns look. I want dairy goats so I can make cheese but did not know that you might not be able to show them if they have horns. I don't think I will show them but have not decided yet.
I have a pigmy billy goat with horns and he has bruised me to many times to count. My husband wants me to get rid of him but I am having a hard time because he was bottle fed and I want to know he is not mistreated or beaten because he can be hard to deal with sometimes. How do I go about finding a home he can go to and be taken care of? My oldest goat is 14 years old she is separated from him. I have a younger Kiko I want to mate with him before getting rid of him. I think this month as soon as she goes into heat I am going to put her with him. She is 2 1/2 years old
THANK YOU for showing that compassion and animal husbandry can live hand in hand. So sick of the mentality nothing hurts much because they’re ‘animals’.
I like that you kept neutral on the horn issue, there are pros and cons, you both explained it beautifully. Thank you!🥰
Thanks Kevin and Rachel for the pros and cons. I am so glad that you chose not to debud. Always learn something from you.
I never disbudded my goats. I couldn't put them thru that. I did use the band on the males tho..but that doesn't hurt them.
Great informational video. When I had my goats...only got up to 13, those born on my farm that I kept, kept their horns. I bought some that were disbudded. A couple I sold were disbudded at buyers request. I did not ever perform the procedure myself. I paid another farmer to do this.
Good Morning,
Goats have horns for a reason. Even in the earliest stories, the Bible for one, the herd of goats had horns. I can see leaving them on. God bless, be safe
That's true, thanks for watching
Yes...if God created horns on goats.....Who are we to decide we will "Re-Design" Gods work...I just trust God, and keep them natural.
GOD BLESS
@@jimroach7 so true
Very informative video. Thank you. For myself, I go with leave the horns on.
I’m so glad you decided not to disbud your babies. That just seems so cruel. I’m an animal person no matter what it is and I hate to think of anyone putting an animal in pain on purpose. I cringe whenever my father in law puts the tags in cow ears and I’m sure it’s no worse than us getting our ears pierced haha
I am with you about disbudding. My goats all have their horns, except my dairy goat who had a disbudding gone wrong. Now she has one horn that is trying to grow into her head. I have tried banding that horn, but it does not seem to be working. I will have to take a saw to it.
Now, I did have my bottle calf disbudded by a vet, but there is a HUGE difference between a goat and steer.
Ive always wondered how the horns were removed. I didnt know it was painful for them. I couldnt do it personally. Thx for the info!
This so good to hear. Thanks for the video God bless ❤🙏
The #1 reason we do not dishorn any of our animals is because those horns are the main tool for them to keep their body temperature down in the hot environment. Goats don't sweat. They need their horns to cool their body.
I have never heard that. Would you explain more?
@@sandyruther2936 it's like a dog panting. Most animals do not sweat, so they need a way to regulate their body temperature.
@@monicaluketich3106 thank you for the information. I raise American Guinea Hogs. As all pigs, they can't control their body temperature either. Hence, always a mud hole during the hot months. Lots of straw bedding in the winter.
In today’s world no one has found an alternative to removing? Maybe grind the tips and round em off with resin or something??? Just a random idea to make a point don’t hate me for that specific idea 😂
@Margot Cavanaugh i mean if it works 🤷♂️ 😂.
It makes sense the horns can help the goats to defend themselves from predators.. I often wondered why they were dehorned.. just for that reason.. As you said though.. it depends on the situation the goat farms have..
I'm personal against debudding, each to their own. Another con I've saw with this procedure is there's a chance the horn could grow back if not done properly. I've seen some whom look almost like a unicorn and some that grow back and towards the eye causing the owner to have to keep getting it trimmed so it don't poke their eye out. That can become pricey if you have to have someone else like a vet to do it. Especially if they have to come out instead of taking it in. God Bless ya'll.
I'm against dehorning goats as well I have seen goats with all types of horn issues When this procedure isn't carried out correctly, basically the Wounded horn buds can cause More problems as they grow in all mangled, then if the horns twere left to grow naturally
Beautiful Goats!!! The best thing if just starting out is to start with the goat proof fencing!! God Bless and have a Wonderful Day!! 😀⚘❤
@@user-jw3dy8zh7o Hello! Is this what I'm supposed to do?
I'm so happy you have made the choice to not de horn.
I’m with you guys .. also adds to quality of life I believe god bless
I'm glad you guys made this decision to keep the horns on the goat. Rachel I hope your mother is doing better
Thank you this was very educational!
Thank you for explaining this. I never heard of it. Kevin, I can’t imagine how scared you were when that baby passed out on you. I understand why some farmers would feel it has to be done but I’m so glad you do not do it.
Lots of great information 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 thank you for sharing have a wonderful day 😊😊
I’m glad you leave the horns in place. Baby goats don’t need to go through that pain. Thanks for sharing this information. I know it’s a personal choice and im glad you have made the choice you’ve made.
And I think the safety from predators is a HUGE pro.
Absolutely disgusting and cruel process. Hard to believe that's an acceptable process. So glad y'all stopped that practice.
Blessings, julie
I would have a hard time using that to dehorning the goats 🐐. I would think their horns would help them defend themselves better against predators. Thank you very educational. God bless Hidden Heights.
That's right Donna, thank you
Hello hope everyone has a wonderful blessed day be safe God bless love ya'll
@@user-jw3dy8zh7o I hope this is hidden height I love your videos love the family Sending God blessing hold ya'll tightly
Nice education piece, I never knew about dehorning. I too think It's cruel to inflict pain on an animal, but I also see the reasons people do it.
It is important either way
The main reason I chose to leave them on is I looked into the history of why people took them off, and then I checked into the purpose of the horns. The purpose of the horns is so much more then self defense. They regulate temperature for the goats. If they have a fever, you can tell by feeling the horns. The need to burn them off was because people wanted to, not for the goat itself. Horns are important for the goat. Glad you are leaving them on. Much better for the goats.
People really should not fool with nature. Their there for a reason
O god! That must hurt??
It was a great video and don't let people get under your skin it is your farm do it your way.
God bless y'all
I am praying for Reachel mom each day too.
Old man cliff loves you too.
Horns are why we have Polled Herefords! In cows the horns hurt when they bump against you. When the vet dehorns they usually anesthetize. We had a couple of dehorned goats given to us and they wore collars, but I could see how they could choke if they fought a collar. I think it is safer to grab them by the horns. Great information guys!
Good video. What works for each farmer.
I like the horns on the goats.
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@@user-jw3dy8zh7o hi
very good video rachael ane kevin always wondered about goats thank you
I’m glad you don’t do that anymore. They are born with the horns for a reason Like dogs with a long tail and they cut them It’s cruelty
Very true
Here docking dog tails is illegal.
I'm glad Y'all chose to not debud your goats. But like you said it's up to each one to decide which way works best for them. Love watching Y'all and love the way you keep it real. GOD BLESS Y'ALL.
Thank you for explaining the process and the pros and cons. Interesting topic for this city girl.
Your farm, your goats,You have been raising goats for a long time. I trust you will do what you think is best for your animals. God bless you and your beautiful family.
Thank you for watching
Very informative video. Thanks for sharing. Take care and God Bless.
The blood flow into the horn dissipates heat in the summer to help cool the animal
I think the horns look good. Thank you for sharing. Hope ya'll have a wonderful day. Love you guys.
You two did a very good job telling use about the horns on the goats THANKS.
There is a great video on how to disbud goats on Blue Cactus Dairy Goats, She does raise dairy show goats.
Thanks for explaining naturally pulled. I learned a lot from this video.
If you don't have any, put hot wire up, so they'll stay off the fence. And we've had a couple disbudded goat's that would get their heads stuck in the field fencing. I've had a horned goat get her head constantly stuck in livestock panel(hog type panel's), so we'd have cut her out & the next time she'd do it, it'd be next to the hole from the last time.
I ❤️ the scenery behind you folks! Your spread is beautiful! Also, thank you for this wonderful video. It's always a treat to see you guys 😉
I always say the same thing. Their property is gorgeous!
We only have a piddly 2 acres, and noisy commuters and big rigs use the road a few acres over. (And they're about to widen it to 4 lanes). Still, it's better than a neighborhood even though some neighborhoods are quieter than where we are.
@@kristin-happytexan Wow, I hear you. I think their property stays green because of humidity. I have never been to Oklahoma, but I hear it's super humid in the summer. I think the reason it's called Hidden Heights Farm is because it is not visible from the main road. I have the impression you would have to get on a side road that takes you way way back in there where their farm is located. Other than the animals sounding off, can you imagine how peaceful and quiet it is on their property?!
@@davinawonderling9361 Loud noise really bothers me, so I definitely would treasure the quiet. (Around here it's fairly quiet on Sundays only, and late evenings. Although... the frogs, cicadas and crickets can be so loud at night it sounds like a jungle. Lol!)
Here in Texas we have wicked humidity, too, and half of our grass is burned. It's a battle keeping it halfway decent.
@@kristin-happytexan I love the sounds of cicadas, frogs, and crickets! I am not a huge fan of a lot of noise, either, but I do love the sounds of nature.
@@kristin-happytexan By the way, I wish you well on your grass. Keeping it green and healthy can be daunting.
If I had goats I would let them be, to be the coat they were made to be lolol. You guys are awesome. You do such a great job at everything you do. 👏 God bless
Thank you for an informative video. We had already decided not to disbud, and this video has help cement how we felt.
Oh my gosh. No wonder it hurts them I know what it's like to even touch my head with my straighteners so that's gotta be bad xx
I appreciate your thoughts and feelings on this, also I don't like any branding with a hot iron.(horses and cattle)
Also, they have some protection from injury by head butting other goats because their skulls have spongy protection naturally where the horns are. They still skin their heads up, but their brains are better protected. I learned that on the Discovery Channel lol.
You’re talking about African Nigerian miniature goats, that is very tasty milk. I remember when you all first got Mojo and a goat got its it’s head stuck in and Rachel told the goat just a minute and it was screaming like crazy. Mojo ran over to the goats fence and the goat had never seen Mojo before. Mojo barked once and the goat looked at Mojo and he got himself unstuck by himself real quick like and took off. Mojo went back to Rachel as if to say “Mama I took care of the problem for you.”. It was kind of funny and I knew then he was trained.
If I ever raise goats I would leave the horns the way God made them. I have watched others do that process and those babies cry out so bad it makes me cry so I cannot watch that process anymore. I like you think they look cool with their horns.
Thank you for explaining de horning.
Sounds good.
I understand more about goats now. I enjoyed this.
Plus, hearing the two of you covering the information as a team.
Thank you!❤🎉😊
The only two things I would want a goat for is clearing out brush or their milk to make soap etc. Are there any other benefits of having them?
They’re hilarious to watch. Bottle babies for sure.
I love how yall care about your animals. Your hearts truly show the love of God in all things.. Pretty awesome to see.
I couldn't help but laugh at Chip messing w the tripod, it reminds me of my 17 month old..LOL Has to touch it, push on it, taste it..LOL
Yall have a great weekend.
Be Blessed.
Had show lambs for my younger brother for a few years. They all had horns upon arrival. Twice I came home from work to find one had ripped the horn cover off, then caught one doing it right in front of me by rubbing his head against a corner fence post and panicking after getting stuck in the wire fencing.
Imagine a lady in a business skirt and high heeled pumps chasing after a frenzied 100 pound lamb with a spice tin of alum to stop the bleeding by sprinkling it on the flapping flesh. 😂🤣😂 Ruined that outfit and ran my stockings.
Pros and cons, but y’all gotta do what’s best for your situation. 👍
My grand daddy always said “A fence that won’t hold water won’t hold goats.”
When I had my goats they were pygmies I did not disposed I left them with their horns on them
I leave the horns on my goats. The biggest reason for me to leave them is so they can protect themselves from stay dogs and predators. I did try in the past to dehorn one of my goats, and it was a bad experience for me and the goat, so decided not to do it and let them be able to have their protection.
I’m the same way with cattle, I choose not to dehorn, if they have horns they just get sold.
Are most of your cattle naturally polled?
@@HiddenHeightsFarm 👍🏼 yeah. Almost everything is now. Every once in a while I randomly get one with horns.
I'm glad you quit the de-budding it looks so cruel
Most farmer who do semi intensive farming will debud their goats to prevent injuries to the animals.
I like that word.. 😂...Nubbins. For some reason it hits me funny. I will be extending Nubbins definition in my daily vocabulary. 😊heeheehee
Great video! Very informative video.
Thanks for sharing.
Y’all don’t even cast shadows anymore!
Interesting!!! I didn’t know that people did that to their goats. Thanks for taking the time to share this. Stay safe and God Bless:)
Kudos to you for not subjecting your goats to this unnecessary trauma. The natural shapes and characteristics at any species have evolved over generations for good reason. Altering them for human convenience is counterproductive, can be cruel, and usually with a modicum of efforts the purpose can be accomplished through other, kinder means. You two have demonstrated all of this with your video. I just recently found your channel. I greatly respect the way you manage your farm and you have a lovely little family.
LOVED THIS VIDEO. VERY INFORMATIVE. THANKS. NICE VIEW. LIKED SEEING YOU 2 SITTING THERE LOL.
I would keep the horns too. Love your family 🥰
Thank you
I'm one of those gouging rarities! Lol. Growing up a little smaller that Kyia I was sitting loving on one of the tame goats. Something spooked him and he jerked his head back. Painfully one of his horns gouged into my forehead just below my hairline. I carry an indention still today. It wasn't even something back then living so far out that my parents even took me to the doctor for. Guess they figured it wasn't deep, it stopped bleeding and being there they probably couldn't stitch it.
Have a great weekend y'all. Stay Blessed☺
Have a great weekend also Dianna!
I see it is Nice out where you are at now ... Where I am now it's chilly out an have to wear a heavy coat ...🥺
I used to care for two goats and there horns grew back and was not good,,,,thank you for this video full of information
HEY KEVIN AND RACHAEL! Great video. I too, will leave my goats horns on them. Easier to handle, and also for their protection. Thank you for the video, always looking forward to more. BTW Kevin, I sold my 3/4 kiko, 1/4 nubian doelings for 180 each LOL Not as much as I wanted but I was happy. They also went to a good home where they are going to be pets/weed eaters. Have a Blessed Weekend **HUGS & PRAYERS** from Kelly and the critters at Piney Haven Homestead.
Just a story I found interesting, a goat farmer I believe is in New Zealand. They time their breeding and the vet comes out to work all the babies, I think it was vaccines, deworming and de budding, they corralled them all in a small barn. The vets walked around and sedated them all, then did all the work they were doing and when procedures were all finished all of them started waking up. They were left in the barn til all were fully awake and then let out and fed. It was just a very interesting thing to watch.
Goat horns are a way for them to cool themselves because blood circulates thru the horn. In order to show goat's in our 4-H club's they had to be disbudded. I've got a few goat's that we've bought that were disbudded. With the predators we've had, they needed their horns. Though we had a mean buck (that was great at protecting his girl's) that sharpened the inside of his horns, that I wished didn't have horns. But I won't dehorn or disbud, but it is a personal thing. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for taking the time to explain the pros and cons. It’s one of he things we love about y’all. You want to educate people without treating them as if they are stupid. I have family over in Sand Springs , OK area. It’s beautiful country over that way. Had a field fire out behind their place the last time we visited. 120* in the shade. Straight up love your style. Kind hearted folks that y’all are.
Great information!💕💕
Thank you
I don’t think I COULD actually disbud a goat. I would rather run the possible risks and let the goat be natural. They are there for a reason after all.
It's not for easy to go through
Good Morning from West Michigan.🐓
I like that you don't dehorn your gosts. I highly recommend farmers who de-horn their kidds at least use lidocaine or another injectable anesthetic. numbing them helps to prevent pain and subsequent shock associated with the pain and the dehorning process. ❤️
Good video! Very informative, especially for someone who doesn't have goats, but would like to someday, like myself!
Always good content and educational to boot. Love your goats and their kids 🐐
Thank you for watching
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I used to work on a dairy farm and we used a iron like yours just had a different end on it looked like a milking inflation...only thing I didn't like was the thick smoke coming off the calves heads as I was holding lead rope and another guy burned them
@@user-jw3dy8zh7o hello Kevin,Rachel and kids I really enjoy your videos
Great info! I don’t have any goats…or Livestock…but I learn a lot from your channel. Plus I LOVE baby goats
Thank you for watching
I never took them off. I used my goats for pack goats, so the horns were so important to temperature regulate themselves.
Thank you for sharing this information.
I am also glad you decided to not de-horn them any longer. 🥰
Kevin and Rachel, I love goats with horns and I also love your channel ❤️
All our goats are horned. They look stunning!
Kudos to you!! Your raising a happy farm!!
If I had a larger area, I might not disbud, but I live on a smaller homestead and have to fence my goats in. I can't tell you how many times the goats have gotten stuck in that fence. When its 116, and they can't get out of the fence they can die easily. Also, the burn the iron causes is a 3rd degree burn that has no feeling so pain is minimal. I have had 3rd degree burns and know this to be true.
I watch alot of farming channels and by far I think y'all are the most realest channels on u tube. Every time I watch y'all I get a big smile.thank y'all
Thank you so much!!
Your choice. People have become very opinionated and feel their way only.
Thank you for explaining the pose and cons. Your video was very informative.
Thanks for this video, hubby and I will be getting goats and I think we will go with the horns. I've heard folks talking about the cons of leaving the horns, but I think I'd rather deal with that and let them be natural.
Good morning Kevin and Rachel
I agree I wouldn't want to dehorn either.
Have a good day 🍁🍁🍁
@@user-jw3dy8zh7o yeah no.. you aren't them..
ty for covering this topic. With more people trying to raise their own meat, milk and farm animals they may see baby buck goats as cute, playful and entertaining and may get into breeding to expand their herd, many just don't think of things like horns. Know your farmer and know your vet. There are many that can botch a de-horning due to panic and some may have to repeat the process which may not be the best for the goat or you. I'm so glad you covered this. You covered this very well!
Thanks for all of the good advice. It will come in handy when I raise goats. I have been considering the horn question and trying to decide which way to go. I like the way the horns look. I want dairy goats so I can make cheese but did not know that you might not be able to show them if they have horns. I don't think I will show them but have not decided yet.
Awesome video! There’s nothing like the voice of true experience.
Thank you
I have a pigmy billy goat with horns and he has bruised me to many times to count. My husband wants me to get rid of him but I am having a hard time because he was bottle fed and I want to know he is not mistreated or beaten because he can be hard to deal with sometimes. How do I go about finding a home he can go to and be taken care of? My oldest goat is 14 years old she is separated from him. I have a younger Kiko I want to mate with him before getting rid of him. I think this month as soon as she goes into heat I am going to put her with him. She is 2 1/2 years old
You might check to see if you have local rescues who can help you find a good, safe home for your buck after you breed him to your doe
Praying for you and your family Rachel. God be with you all thru this time.
THANK YOU for showing that compassion and animal husbandry can live hand in hand. So sick of the mentality nothing hurts much because they’re ‘animals’.