During my 27 month time in Vietnam I carried an M2 and it was fed via two "Banana Clips" - that were taped together with 100 mph tape. Never one malfunction! I sure wish I had my little buddy back with me today!
I've heard that the 30 round mags work much better as 25 round mags, was that your experience? And when you had to use it, was it mostly on semi auto, I'd assume full auto would be good for contact breaking. Overall, a lightweight and maneuverable carbine like this makes a lot of sense in jungle warfare, something like the M14 is just a bit too heavy and cumbersome when moving around in thick vegetation and so forth.
@podsmpsg1 The M1 Carbine and F auto M2 and M16 along with the AK-47 are actually very similar performance wise, .30 Carbine is similar to the 7.62x39mm used in the AK and the 5.56mm used in the M16/M4 Carbine and AR-15 platform since the M1 Carbine was used along with the M16 for the duration of Vietnam both with American troops and South Vietnamese ARVN
Theres a picture of my grandpa during the secret war in Laos with all types of guns, one of the photos had him with a M1 carbine with a 15 rounder, quite a fascinating gun!
@@WheredThoseRoundsGo that's because back in WWII that was a common style of flash hider. I don't know the timeframe of when it began being used or when it was replaced with a different style of flash hider. But, I've seen it on everything from M1919s, M2 Brownings, "Grease Guns", M1 & M2 Carbines, etc. My Deer rifle is a British No. 5 Mk. 1 Enfield (these were also more commonly known as "Jungle Carbines"). The No. 5 Enfield is a modified version of the No. 4 enfield that was produced with the intention of being a shorter and lighter rifle for use by airborne troops, but they ran into various issues with the rifles, and the rifles only ever really saw use by British Forces in the Jungles. These rifles also had the same cone style flash hider, and I've found it to be quite effective. The rifle does have a substantial recoil and loud report due to its shorter length, but to me that just makes it all the more fun.
In the early years of the war before M16s arrived, the ARVNs favoured the M1/2 Carbine over the M1 Rifle as its lighter weight and shorter length made it easier for ARVNs to carry in the field due to their smaller stature
The push button safety was a feature on early and mid WW2 built rifles and was switched over to the rotary safety late in the war. Under stress, too many soldiers were dumping their mags when they meant to take the safety off.
you left out how the later versions had a 3 point magazine retention design because of the added weight of a 30rd mag. or that 30 round banana magazines want to wobble out of early M1 carbine mag wells with the old 2 point contact button.
Muzzle break is for breaking the recoil of the weapon. What he has is a flash hider. The manufacturer's were Quality Hardware, Standard Product, Postal meter, Inland by General Motors, Underwood, Winchester, Rock Ola, IBM, Saginaw by GMC. And they manufactured 6,000,000,100 of them.
When I was a young Infantryman in South Korea during the early 1970's... some members of the ROK Army as well as the Korean police carried the M2 carbine. When I returned to the United States after my Tour of Duty...I went to Kmart and purchased a Plainsfield M1 carbine. What are reliable and excellent little weapon this was.
It is not a muzzle brake. It is a flash eliminator or flash hider. Also the British Enfield No. 5 jungle carbine was a shortened .303 rifle also with a similar flash eliminator fitted. Same on the BREN gun. Nothing soecial about it.
I thought “jungle clip” mean’t two magazines (30 round banana or 15 round mags) duct taped together upside down for faster reloading. Great video. I love my Auto Ordinance M1 carbine for woods carry.
That's also referred to as jungle style magazines, but these "banana clips" were apparently also called jungle clips. And yes they're magazines, not clips, I know this but that dates back to the enbloc clip for the m1 garand, so soldiers started calling magazines clips.
Thanks for watching. Be sure to watch the rest of the “Saigon Report” series! Links to the rest of the aeries are below 😁 Episode 2 - M1 “Jungle” Carbine www.full30.com/v/stimulating-district-XJv9l Episode 3 - XM16E1 www.full30.com/v/impure-activity-6fMaw Episode 4 - XM177E2 www.full30.com/v/all-airport-RQppu Episode 5 - M79 Thumper www.full30.com/v/tinted-sound-ck9qY Episode 6 - AK47 / Type 56 www.full30.com/v/subtle-original-whSNi Episode 7 - The RPK www.full30.com/v/spiffy-joke-8NfYq
Also the first M1 Carbines actually arrived in Vietnam at the very end of WWII in August 1945 with the OSS Deer Team and they were helping Ho Chi Mihn drive out the Japanese occupation of Vietnam which lasted from 1940 to VJ Day 1945
Carried the M-2 Carbine in Viet Nam in 62 with MACV. M-2 was able to fire semi automatic or select full automatic. Loved it. Nice informative video but that was my weapon and never referred to as a gun. Minor point. Guns are artillery pieces,
I seen a picture once of a 30 carbine that was bolt action and what the mag talked about this rifle was the cong made them, but it didn't why they had to make them any why with so much 30M1's in country and why the use of a bolt?
If this was used in the Nam, why didn't it have a bayonet lug? Originally the first issue carbines did not have a bayonet lug because no bayonets were available. It wasn't until 1944 that they took the M3 fighting knife, discarded the leather handle and put a bayonet handle on the blade. The carbine was then fitted with a bayonet lug that replaced the original ballel band. These mods did not catch up to the troops until Okinawa. The bayonet was labeled the M4. For further reading see, Wikipedia
That's a new rifle. . . the barrel band is not the bayonet lug type. . . .G.I. issue barrels were never threaded, so a conical flash hider would not be a screw on. . . you would see a big clamp on the flash hider .. . . so you can tell it's a new pot metal trigger group 3rd generation production model.
My old man a Vietnam vet 68-69 had a guy in his platoon that used a M1 Carbine. M16 wasn't as great as some think, troops hated the " Mattel jam o matic" with a passion.
What was told is they weren't cleaning the rifle. They thought this futuristic rifle, at the time, didn't needed cleaning. The Army had to issue cleaning kit with the rifle and field service manuals on how-to.
@@Joseph-eh4rs McNamara told them it was a self cleaning firearm. As late as 1968 M14's, M1 Carbines, even Tommy Guns were still seen in the hands of troops. Hell , my old man had 2 guys in his platoon that carried M1 Carbines, one a Thompson and several had AK's.
Dude, you don't have a clue what you are talking about. That is a flash hider not a muzzle brake. Also, the 30rd magazine was intended for the M2 carbine which you don't mention whatsoever.
tHREADED BARREL KIND OF THROWS ME All through nam my friends carried 2 rifles M16 and M1 carbine for in the jungle So they used it a lot mine was Plainfeild machine co Commando Paratrooper S&k Scope mount Tasko Super Sniper 3x9 x32 fence post recticle painted with green stripes for jungle camo. a friend vet carried it through Nam . lost it to pawn shop I picked it up for 185 bucks i offered it back to him he told me to keep it Perfect for hunting coyotes where i live I dress it up with m2 carbine stock Its wicked cool jungle sniper
Simple, you cannot use a bayonet with a flash hider. I'm not sure when the M2 appeared, but I know that it was used extensively in Korea and VietNam. For further info, I suggest watching "The M2 Carbine" on you tube. The Carbine was not held in much favor by the Marines at the Chosin because the Chicoms had all of this padded winter uniforms and the small .30 rd did not have the punch to penetrate. They loved the Garand.
that's a myth. my grandfather served at Chosin and he loved the M2. There have been plenty of ballistic tests disproving that the .30 carbine cartridge wouldn't make it through heavy padding
This "expert" needs to check his facts. MACV-SOG is Military Assistance Command Vietnam Studies and Observations Group. Also you might want to check who made M1 Carbines.
During my 27 month time in Vietnam I carried an M2 and it was fed via two "Banana Clips" - that were taped together with 100 mph tape. Never one malfunction! I sure wish I had my little buddy back with me today!
Wow. Nice. I'd go with the M1 carbine over the M16.
In the jungle. Absolutely. Especially since the 30 round mags were available for a carbine and only 20 rounders for the ar.
I've heard that the 30 round mags work much better as 25 round mags, was that your experience? And when you had to use it, was it mostly on semi auto, I'd assume full auto would be good for contact breaking. Overall, a lightweight and maneuverable carbine like this makes a lot of sense in jungle warfare, something like the M14 is just a bit too heavy and cumbersome when moving around in thick vegetation and so forth.
@podsmpsg1 The M1 Carbine and F auto M2 and M16 along with the AK-47 are actually very similar performance wise, .30 Carbine is similar to the 7.62x39mm used in the AK and the 5.56mm used in the M16/M4 Carbine and AR-15 platform since the M1 Carbine was used along with the M16 for the duration of Vietnam both with American troops and South Vietnamese ARVN
Theres a picture of my grandpa during the secret war in Laos with all types of guns, one of the photos had him with a M1 carbine with a 15 rounder, quite a fascinating gun!
With all due respect, what you’re showing is a flash hider. A separate muzzle brake device was designed and made for the M1 Carbine.
It looks like a grease gun flash hider 😂
This dude is wrong right off the bat makes me wonder what else is wrong in his story.
@Hugh Jänüs yeah I know they’re dope I’m just saying the carbine and the grease gun ones are different
@@WheredThoseRoundsGo that's because back in WWII that was a common style of flash hider. I don't know the timeframe of when it began being used or when it was replaced with a different style of flash hider. But, I've seen it on everything from M1919s, M2 Brownings, "Grease Guns", M1 & M2 Carbines, etc.
My Deer rifle is a British No. 5 Mk. 1 Enfield (these were also more commonly known as "Jungle Carbines"). The No. 5 Enfield is a modified version of the No. 4 enfield that was produced with the intention of being a shorter and lighter rifle for use by airborne troops, but they ran into various issues with the rifles, and the rifles only ever really saw use by British Forces in the Jungles. These rifles also had the same cone style flash hider, and I've found it to be quite effective. The rifle does have a substantial recoil and loud report due to its shorter length, but to me that just makes it all the more fun.
@@kaipo8489 But he's a hip cat.
Arvn used them in the front line untill the end of the war.
In the early years of the war before M16s arrived, the ARVNs favoured the M1/2 Carbine over the M1 Rifle as its lighter weight and shorter length made it easier for ARVNs to carry in the field due to their smaller stature
The push button safety was a feature on early and mid WW2 built rifles and was switched over to the rotary safety late in the war. Under stress, too many soldiers were dumping their mags when they meant to take the safety off.
you left out how the later versions had a 3 point magazine retention design because of the added weight of a 30rd mag. or that 30 round banana magazines want to wobble out of early M1 carbine mag wells with the old 2 point contact button.
Muzzle break is for breaking the recoil of the weapon. What he has is a flash hider. The manufacturer's were Quality Hardware, Standard Product, Postal meter, Inland by General Motors, Underwood, Winchester, Rock Ola, IBM, Saginaw by GMC. And they manufactured 6,000,000,100 of them.
When I was a young Infantryman in South Korea during the early 1970's... some members of the ROK Army as well as the Korean police carried the M2 carbine.
When I returned to the United States after my Tour of Duty...I went to Kmart and purchased a Plainsfield M1 carbine.
What are reliable and excellent little weapon this was.
It is not a muzzle brake. It is a flash eliminator or flash hider. Also the British Enfield No. 5 jungle carbine was a shortened .303 rifle also with a similar flash eliminator fitted. Same on the BREN gun. Nothing soecial about it.
I thought “jungle clip” mean’t two magazines (30 round banana or 15 round mags) duct taped together upside down for faster reloading.
Great video. I love my Auto Ordinance M1 carbine for woods carry.
That's also referred to as jungle style magazines, but these "banana clips" were apparently also called jungle clips. And yes they're magazines, not clips, I know this but that dates back to the enbloc clip for the m1 garand, so soldiers started calling magazines clips.
That one looks to be in like new condition
It's a new production Inland. I see them often in one of my local gunshops. They currently run about $800, give or take.
I think you are talking more about the m2 carbine. Though you would certainly see m1 carbines without selectors.
Awesome video!! Love seeing a video on this!
Thanks for watching. Be sure to watch the rest of the “Saigon Report” series! Links to the rest of the aeries are below 😁
Episode 2 - M1 “Jungle” Carbine
www.full30.com/v/stimulating-district-XJv9l
Episode 3 - XM16E1
www.full30.com/v/impure-activity-6fMaw
Episode 4 - XM177E2
www.full30.com/v/all-airport-RQppu
Episode 5 - M79 Thumper
www.full30.com/v/tinted-sound-ck9qY
Episode 6 - AK47 / Type 56
www.full30.com/v/subtle-original-whSNi
Episode 7 - The RPK
www.full30.com/v/spiffy-joke-8NfYq
Good job. Thank you sir.
Very interesting information. Thanks for sharing
An all time favorite of mine🇺🇸
Holy Cannoli Mr. Student of the Gun! You look Scary in your appearance! Well done.
If I were in Nam, I'd rather use and carry that than an M16, that's just me. I think the French Foreign Legion used it in Vietnam too.
One of my favorites...
I have not seen one without the bolt/nut attachment portion before. Did you customize one?
Check your facts, Remington and Singer didn’t produce M1 Carbines
Also the first M1 Carbines actually arrived in Vietnam at the very end of WWII in August 1945 with the OSS Deer Team and they were helping Ho Chi Mihn drive out the Japanese occupation of Vietnam which lasted from 1940 to VJ Day 1945
I call them clips instead of magazines and get shit from the gun nuts.😅 My favorite rifle. It is very light weight. Feels like a toy rifle
Roger that ! They cry and bout shit their pants when I say "clip" - LoL !
Another great video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Loving these vids!
Carried the M-2 Carbine in Viet Nam in 62 with MACV. M-2 was able to fire semi automatic or select full automatic. Loved it. Nice informative video but that was my weapon and never referred to as a gun. Minor point. Guns are artillery pieces,
Joel, Did your M2 have a bayonet?
Upmost respect your a hero, How was the Carbine in the jungles of nam
Love my M1 carbine.
Same here along with the AK-47 and M16/M4 Carbine
I like the new video series Paul!
The prices of these bad boys have gone through the roof in the last two years. Even a Universal is going for a grand. USGI's $1900+
Such a great series
a gun is an artillery piece , thats a rifle
In fact the polymer stock (Choate) is heavier compare to the wood.
Great !! Do one on the Greasegun .45 cal M3A1 submachine gun
I love this series. My unkle was macv late 60s and early 70s. He still alive.
I seen a picture once of a 30 carbine that was bolt action and what the mag talked about this rifle was the cong made them, but it didn't why they had to make them any why with so much 30M1's in country and why the use of a bolt?
Yes finally i have a bb carbine and a Vietnam paratrooper outfit so could tris work ?
If this was used in the Nam, why didn't it have a bayonet lug? Originally the first issue carbines did not have a bayonet lug because no bayonets were available. It wasn't until 1944 that they took the M3 fighting knife, discarded the leather handle and put a bayonet handle on the blade. The carbine was then fitted with a bayonet lug that replaced the original ballel band. These mods did not catch up to the troops until Okinawa. The bayonet was labeled the M4. For further reading see, Wikipedia
How do you plan on attaching your bayonet with that flash hider in the way?
That's a new rifle. . . the barrel band is not the bayonet lug type. . . .G.I. issue barrels were never threaded, so a conical flash hider would not be a screw on. . . you would see a big clamp on the flash hider .. . . so you can tell it's a new pot metal trigger group 3rd generation production model.
I have an M1 carbine made by National Postal Meter Co. Dated April 1944 .
Singer made 1911's, not m1 carbines. Also Remington made neither M1 carbines, or 1911's during WWII.
My old man a Vietnam vet 68-69 had a guy in his platoon that used a M1 Carbine. M16 wasn't as great as some think, troops hated the " Mattel jam o matic" with a passion.
The Mattel thing came out after Vietnam nobody called it in vietnam that’s a myth
@@WheredThoseRoundsGo Really so you were there then to testify to that?
MontanaMountainMen no but it’s been debunked by a ton of people
What was told is they weren't cleaning the rifle. They thought this futuristic rifle, at the time, didn't needed cleaning. The Army had to issue cleaning kit with the rifle and field service manuals on how-to.
@@Joseph-eh4rs McNamara told them it was a self cleaning firearm. As late as 1968 M14's, M1 Carbines, even Tommy Guns were still seen in the hands of troops. Hell , my old man had 2 guys in his platoon that carried M1 Carbines, one a Thompson and several had AK's.
Dude, you don't have a clue what you are talking about. That is a flash hider not a muzzle brake. Also, the 30rd magazine was intended for the M2 carbine which you don't mention whatsoever.
Pretty sure you were not in country correct?
A flash suppressor-not a muzzle brake. Muzzle brakes actually make the flash worse.
Việt Nam thu súng này nhiều.
tHREADED BARREL KIND OF THROWS ME
All through nam my friends carried 2 rifles M16 and M1 carbine for in the jungle
So they used it a lot
mine was Plainfeild machine co Commando Paratrooper S&k Scope mount
Tasko Super Sniper 3x9 x32 fence post recticle painted with green stripes for jungle camo.
a friend vet carried it through Nam .
lost it to pawn shop I picked it up for 185 bucks
i offered it back to him he told me to keep it
Perfect for hunting coyotes where i live
I dress it up with m2 carbine stock
Its wicked cool jungle sniper
Yeah genius that's what is called a flash-hider....I think a child knows what that device is. And It was MACV SOG, not MAC SOG.
Simple, you cannot use a bayonet with a flash hider. I'm not sure when the M2 appeared, but I know that it was used extensively in Korea and VietNam. For further info, I suggest watching "The M2 Carbine" on you tube. The Carbine was not held in much favor by the Marines at the Chosin because the Chicoms had all of this padded winter uniforms and the small .30 rd did not have the punch to penetrate. They loved the Garand.
That was never proven
that's a myth. my grandfather served at Chosin and he loved the M2. There have been plenty of ballistic tests disproving that the .30 carbine cartridge wouldn't make it through heavy padding
The new reproduction inland carbines are pot metal crap! Do yourself a favor and buy an original GI.
Clamp on Flash Hider. . . .not a screw on. . . . G.I. barrels were not threaded.
M3 Grease Gun as well (clamp).
CONE FLASH HIDER, AFTER MARKET ACCESSORY *
Flash hider =/= Muzzle brake.
MISSING BAYONET LUG *
Lol remington and singer did not make m1 carbines. Get your facts straight.
This "expert" needs to check his facts. MACV-SOG is Military Assistance Command Vietnam Studies and Observations Group. Also you might want to check who made M1 Carbines.
IBM, INLAND NPM ETC *
This video is full of a lot of bad info. You don't even know who the manufacturers of the carbine are.
he said several of the manufacturers though lol
It has a lot of manufacturers??
That’s not an original m1. And most of this wrong too
Roger that !
No one thought the m1 carbine was hip since the greatest generation...
I think a 22 Ruger rifle will do the same thing is that carbine with much cheaper ammo