M1 "Jungle" Carbine - Saigon Report Ep. 02
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Saigon Report Episode 02 - M1 "Jungle" Carbine
When the United States first became involved in Vietnam, the primary role for US Special Operation personnel was that of “Military Advisors” and instructors. The primary roles of advisors and instructors were played by US Army Special Forces or “Green Berets”.
Green Berets were tasked with advising and training friend Vietnamse forces to fight the North Vietnamese communists. One of the most readily available and easy to use fighting tools was the U.S. M1 Carbine. During World War II, literally millions of M1 carbines were made in factories all over the United States.
In Vietnam, surplus M1 Carbines were equipped with a flash-hider muzzle device and they were nicknamed “Jungle Carbines”. These Jungle Carbines were essentially the same guns used in WWII and Korea. As will most all WWII weapons, the M1 had a hardwood stock and parkerized steel barrel and action.
M1 Carbines were light-weight and relatively compact, this was a big plus as the average Vietnamese soldier was physically smaller than his American counterpart. The manual of arms for the M1 Carbine was simple and the average soldier could be taught to load, manipulate and fire the M1 Carbine in a short amount of time.
The standard detachable magazine for the M1 Carbine held 15 .30 carbine rounds of ammunition. During the Vietnam conflict, 30 round magazines for the carbine were issued as quickly became known as “Jungle Clips”. A 30 round jungle clip gave the user the same amount of rounds as the NVA soldier using an AK-47 with a 30 round “banana clip”.
Care and maintenance for the M1 Carbine was not difficult and, until widespread issuance of the M-16, the carbines served both the Special Operations forces and Vietnamese allies, Army of the Republic of Vietnam (regulars) and the South Vietnamese Popular Force (militia), well.
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During my 27 month time in Vietnam I carried an M2 and it was fed via two "Banana Clips" - that were taped together with 100 mph tape. Never one malfunction! I sure wish I had my little buddy back with me today!
Wow. Nice. I'd go with the M1 carbine over the M16.
In the jungle. Absolutely. Especially since the 30 round mags were available for a carbine and only 20 rounders for the ar.
I've heard that the 30 round mags work much better as 25 round mags, was that your experience? And when you had to use it, was it mostly on semi auto, I'd assume full auto would be good for contact breaking. Overall, a lightweight and maneuverable carbine like this makes a lot of sense in jungle warfare, something like the M14 is just a bit too heavy and cumbersome when moving around in thick vegetation and so forth.
Theres a picture of my grandpa during the secret war in Laos with all types of guns, one of the photos had him with a M1 carbine with a 15 rounder, quite a fascinating gun!
Muzzle break is for breaking the recoil of the weapon. What he has is a flash hider. The manufacturer's were Quality Hardware, Standard Product, Postal meter, Inland by General Motors, Underwood, Winchester, Rock Ola, IBM, Saginaw by GMC. And they manufactured 6,000,000,100 of them.
The push button safety was a feature on early and mid WW2 built rifles and was switched over to the rotary safety late in the war. Under stress, too many soldiers were dumping their mags when they meant to take the safety off.
With all due respect, what you’re showing is a flash hider. A separate muzzle brake device was designed and made for the M1 Carbine.
It looks like a grease gun flash hider 😂
This dude is wrong right off the bat makes me wonder what else is wrong in his story.
@Hugh Jänüs yeah I know they’re dope I’m just saying the carbine and the grease gun ones are different
@@cartercavicchio5524 that's because back in WWII that was a common style of flash hider. I don't know the timeframe of when it began being used or when it was replaced with a different style of flash hider. But, I've seen it on everything from M1919s, M2 Brownings, "Grease Guns", M1 & M2 Carbines, etc.
My Deer rifle is a British No. 5 Mk. 1 Enfield (these were also more commonly known as "Jungle Carbines"). The No. 5 Enfield is a modified version of the No. 4 enfield that was produced with the intention of being a shorter and lighter rifle for use by airborne troops, but they ran into various issues with the rifles, and the rifles only ever really saw use by British Forces in the Jungles. These rifles also had the same cone style flash hider, and I've found it to be quite effective. The rifle does have a substantial recoil and loud report due to its shorter length, but to me that just makes it all the more fun.
@@kaipo8489 But he's a hip cat.
Arvn used them in the front line untill the end of the war.
In the early years of the war before M16s arrived, the ARVNs favoured the M1/2 Carbine over the M1 Rifle as its lighter weight and shorter length made it easier for ARVNs to carry in the field due to their smaller stature
I thought “jungle clip” mean’t two magazines (30 round banana or 15 round mags) duct taped together upside down for faster reloading.
Great video. I love my Auto Ordinance M1 carbine for woods carry.
That's also referred to as jungle style magazines, but these "banana clips" were apparently also called jungle clips. And yes they're magazines, not clips, I know this but that dates back to the enbloc clip for the m1 garand, so soldiers started calling magazines clips.
It is not a muzzle brake. It is a flash eliminator or flash hider. Also the British Enfield No. 5 jungle carbine was a shortened .303 rifle also with a similar flash eliminator fitted. Same on the BREN gun. Nothing soecial about it.
I think you are talking more about the m2 carbine. Though you would certainly see m1 carbines without selectors.
That one looks to be in like new condition
It's a new production Inland. I see them often in one of my local gunshops. They currently run about $800, give or take.
you left out how the later versions had a 3 point magazine retention design because of the added weight of a 30rd mag. or that 30 round banana magazines want to wobble out of early M1 carbine mag wells with the old 2 point contact button.
If I were in Nam, I'd rather use and carry that than an M16, that's just me. I think the French Foreign Legion used it in Vietnam too.
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I love this series. My unkle was macv late 60s and early 70s. He still alive.
Awesome video!! Love seeing a video on this!
Thanks for watching. Be sure to watch the rest of the “Saigon Report” series! Links to the rest of the aeries are below 😁
Episode 2 - M1 “Jungle” Carbine
www.full30.com/v/stimulating-district-XJv9l
Episode 3 - XM16E1
www.full30.com/v/impure-activity-6fMaw
Episode 4 - XM177E2
www.full30.com/v/all-airport-RQppu
Episode 5 - M79 Thumper
www.full30.com/v/tinted-sound-ck9qY
Episode 6 - AK47 / Type 56
www.full30.com/v/subtle-original-whSNi
Episode 7 - The RPK
www.full30.com/v/spiffy-joke-8NfYq
Carried the M-2 Carbine in Viet Nam in 62 with MACV. M-2 was able to fire semi automatic or select full automatic. Loved it. Nice informative video but that was my weapon and never referred to as a gun. Minor point. Guns are artillery pieces,
Joel, Did your M2 have a bayonet?
Love my M1 carbine.
The prices of these bad boys have gone through the roof in the last two years. Even a Universal is going for a grand. USGI's $1900+
Check your facts, Remington and Singer didn’t produce M1 Carbines
I call them clips instead of magazines and get shit from the gun nuts.😅 My favorite rifle. It is very light weight. Feels like a toy rifle
Roger that ! They cry and bout shit their pants when I say "clip" - LoL !
Good job. Thank you sir.
One of my favorites...
I have an M1 carbine made by National Postal Meter Co. Dated April 1944 .
Very interesting information. Thanks for sharing
a gun is an artillery piece , thats a rifle
Another great video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Loving these vids!
I like the new video series Paul!
My old man a Vietnam vet 68-69 had a guy in his platoon that used a M1 Carbine. M16 wasn't as great as some think, troops hated the " Mattel jam o matic" with a passion.
The Mattel thing came out after Vietnam nobody called it in vietnam that’s a myth
@@cartercavicchio5524 Really so you were there then to testify to that?
MontanaMountainMen no but it’s been debunked by a ton of people
What was told is they weren't cleaning the rifle. They thought this futuristic rifle, at the time, didn't needed cleaning. The Army had to issue cleaning kit with the rifle and field service manuals on how-to.
@@Joseph-eh4rs McNamara told them it was a self cleaning firearm. As late as 1968 M14's, M1 Carbines, even Tommy Guns were still seen in the hands of troops. Hell , my old man had 2 guys in his platoon that carried M1 Carbines, one a Thompson and several had AK's.
Such a great series
tHREADED BARREL KIND OF THROWS ME
All through nam my friends carried 2 rifles M16 and M1 carbine for in the jungle
So they used it a lot
mine was Plainfeild machine co Commando Paratrooper S&k Scope mount
Tasko Super Sniper 3x9 x32 fence post recticle painted with green stripes for jungle camo.
a friend vet carried it through Nam .
lost it to pawn shop I picked it up for 185 bucks
i offered it back to him he told me to keep it
Perfect for hunting coyotes where i live
I dress it up with m2 carbine stock
Its wicked cool jungle sniper
I seen a picture once of a 30 carbine that was bolt action and what the mag talked about this rifle was the cong made them, but it didn't why they had to make them any why with so much 30M1's in country and why the use of a bolt?
I have not seen one without the bolt/nut attachment portion before. Did you customize one?
Singer made 1911's, not m1 carbines. Also Remington made neither M1 carbines, or 1911's during WWII.
In fact the polymer stock (Choate) is heavier compare to the wood.
Yeah genius that's what is called a flash-hider....I think a child knows what that device is. And It was MACV SOG, not MAC SOG.
Great !! Do one on the Greasegun .45 cal M3A1 submachine gun
If this was used in the Nam, why didn't it have a bayonet lug? Originally the first issue carbines did not have a bayonet lug because no bayonets were available. It wasn't until 1944 that they took the M3 fighting knife, discarded the leather handle and put a bayonet handle on the blade. The carbine was then fitted with a bayonet lug that replaced the original ballel band. These mods did not catch up to the troops until Okinawa. The bayonet was labeled the M4. For further reading see, Wikipedia
How do you plan on attaching your bayonet with that flash hider in the way?
That's a new rifle. . . the barrel band is not the bayonet lug type. . . .G.I. issue barrels were never threaded, so a conical flash hider would not be a screw on. . . you would see a big clamp on the flash hider .. . . so you can tell it's a new pot metal trigger group 3rd generation production model.
The new reproduction inland carbines are pot metal crap! Do yourself a favor and buy an original GI.
Dude, you don't have a clue what you are talking about. That is a flash hider not a muzzle brake. Also, the 30rd magazine was intended for the M2 carbine which you don't mention whatsoever.
Yes finally i have a bb carbine and a Vietnam paratrooper outfit so could tris work ?
CONE FLASH HIDER, AFTER MARKET ACCESSORY *
Lol remington and singer did not make m1 carbines. Get your facts straight.
A flash suppressor-not a muzzle brake. Muzzle brakes actually make the flash worse.
Simple, you cannot use a bayonet with a flash hider. I'm not sure when the M2 appeared, but I know that it was used extensively in Korea and VietNam. For further info, I suggest watching "The M2 Carbine" on you tube. The Carbine was not held in much favor by the Marines at the Chosin because the Chicoms had all of this padded winter uniforms and the small .30 rd did not have the punch to penetrate. They loved the Garand.
That was never proven
that's a myth. my grandfather served at Chosin and he loved the M2. There have been plenty of ballistic tests disproving that the .30 carbine cartridge wouldn't make it through heavy padding
MISSING BAYONET LUG *
Pretty sure you were not in country correct?
This video is full of a lot of bad info. You don't even know who the manufacturers of the carbine are.
he said several of the manufacturers though lol
It has a lot of manufacturers??
Flash hider =/= Muzzle brake.
Việt Nam thu súng này nhiều.
Clamp on Flash Hider. . . .not a screw on. . . . G.I. barrels were not threaded.
M3 Grease Gun as well (clamp).
IBM, INLAND NPM ETC *
That’s not an original m1. And most of this wrong too
Roger that !
I think a 22 Ruger rifle will do the same thing is that carbine with much cheaper ammo
No one thought the m1 carbine was hip since the greatest generation...