@@gregmacklem guess what, I am going to get an auxbeam 5dpro 12inch light bar and compare it with HF rs6, and two other round lights just to see how different/similar they are, I am super curious too.
Best comparison on youtube. There is no way I’m dropping $1k just to get a set of light. Harbor Freight is performing at 90% while at third of the price. They are absolutely killing it with the Roadshock line. I hope to put a set on my car before winter!
Man, super well done video. Ive been considering the HF lights, specifically the 3 inch LED pairs for my bike and the $100 4 LED spotlight and I can't find anything this comprehensive on any of them. This review of the Edge gives promise for the others. I appreciate that you actually measured the LUX and not just lumens and took the time to address things like the better side light spread. Not many people do such comprehensive reviews so your work stands out. Lookin forward to more! *Also, not sure if a shootout between all the new HF lights would bring enough revenue to fund the whole project but Id certainly watch it 😊
Thank you for the kind words man, it means a lot to me. Let’s see whether HF would be kind enough for maybe sending me some products to test in the future.
KILLER video! The back to back comparisons are great but showing the low vs high with your truck lights on and off man you really showed the real world application. Very impressed!
You gota make the little color spots up top at 21:26 bigger. Can't tell what is what... (especially as they aren't in order) But, overall really good vid! (I'd never spend $1k on lights... my body would just shut down)
I have been breaking my head trying to figure out where to start to figure out how to make a light bar with the HF lights for my off road vehicle. Do you have any resources or guidance? Thanks in advance
@@HectorHernandez-ij5yu I already had the light bar mount for my Wrangler JK. The kind that is tubular and goes on the sides and all the way across the the top. I used L iron and bolted them on the vertical part. The HB lights have 2 bolts per side. I just used 1 per side and the aloud the mount to swivel to the rear of the light. I did this to keep the lights from sticking up so high. It lowered them about halfway. Then I wired them up to each other. They pull a lot of power so you have to use a bigger gauge wire for the harness. I had all 6 on one harness but the wire was getting hot. I wired 3 and 3 then to 2 separate switches and It works fine now. I also flipped the lights upside down cuz the plugs in the back were to close to the windshield. You can’t even tell really.
Thanks, this was perfect. I was specifically looking for something that was like a “super” fog light to mount low. Getting to see the light patterns of these was nice
Harbor freight, I’m impressed small light with side shooters, really good length and trowing distance 👌 but as a Norwegian still quite expensive, compared to what we got over for almost half the price with twice the outputs, but I love the looks 😍 Watched a lot of your comparison videos, you both make it understandable, and field tests that actually shows the light. Keep it up!
Extremely helpful comparison when purchasing lower price off road lights. I'm very surprised Harbor Freight made quality light and at an affordable price. Thanks man.
Very well put together comparison. Thank you for the effort and money spent to bring us this info. Really enjoyed the side-by-side screen shots to show the instant comparison. Thanks brother!
Thank you for showing what a driver would actually see from an off road light. I watched Harbor Freights on the new Edge lights and they placed the camera about 20 feet from the light and Pointed directly into the light. That tells a driver Nothing about the down the road view of the beam. Sure it is bright when pointed into your eyes but so is a Pen Light.
I've been running BD LP4 and LP6 lights on my 1st gen tacoma for over 4 years in every imaginable weather condition as I live where it shows, is foggy, blizzards, sand storms, etc. I can't count how many times I've had dudes stop to talk to me about how much better my lights are in all conditions on road or off-road.
Yes, I have no doubt that BD lights are built solid, personally I have two pairs of their squadron lights, and they have been good for me. I will test out the longevity of the HF's new lights on my vehicle and report back.
I think these roadshock edge lights might be answering the lighting need and desire people have been trying to satisfy. These lights aren't about marketing numbers and data points, these are lights people use & then they start caring about lighting quality. hotspots are ugly and take more effort for your body to process than smooth even lighting. The amber covers are totally the better choice of lighting, I know some people are crazy about bright white leds, but yellow & amber are so much better at night. People are over light bars, there's no good reason to use one when a single set of pod lights will outperform. right now people are nostalgic for old off road lights, but want modern equivalents.
If you take the HF Lumens/BD Lumens you will see its 80%+. I bought 7 HF lights for $1200 (lightbar) and 4 of the smaller 4 leds ($400) , so $1600 for the setup for under two pairs of BD with 80%+ the output, HF for the win
Amazing video! One thing to further improve it, would be to measure the current draw of the lights. I'm looking into using them on a motorcycle which has a limited alternator output.
@@4WDisLife Yeah it ads efficiency as a metric. One light consuming e.g. 80w vs another 40w, the 80w will almost certain be brighter. But would 2 x 40 w be brighter and have a better overlapping beam pattern? A lot of budget manufactures also claims false wattage and this would be revealed with a current draw measurement.
Dude I loved your video! Thanks for this I bought the knock off's cause that's what I could afford but I'm happy with those, I accidentally dropped them on the floor from about 1.9mts and they're working 100%
Excellent video with great nighttime comparisons. Baja is insane @ just under $1000 for two lights... I don't care how good they are... I wouldn't spend that much. The Harbor Freight lights are extremely impressive. I particularly like how wide the peripheral illumination is. Even though these are listed as off road use only... we all know many people who live in rural areas will use these to watch for Deer etc... and the wide illumination is perfect for watching Ditches. but they also have a powerful long distance throw for long distance illumination. BD simply isn't worth their over 3x higher price... I actually purchased the first set of the HF LED6's at my local store..when they had their 15%off special, no exclusions. so they were like $127 each, they know me as a regular so they allowed me to make two separate purchases to get the deal on each one (it was a 1 discount per person/per day thing). they never even knew they existed & had never seen them... I showed them the HF website listing, they searched the item number... and they had to go in the back room & dig thru their recent pallet delivery to find a box. I bought their first and only set. sold individually, but boxed in groups of two. I can tell you, even the box is high quality... the lights themselves are Hefty, they feel substantial. they have nice finishes & quality wiring. (important note: it's worth it to buy their premade wiring/dual switch (like $59 i think).... being these need a pretty heavy gauge wire for the amperage draw & have low & high positions as well as an optional amber backlight.... they must be wired with separate dedicated power leads for low & high... you CANNOT power low beam & them add power to the high beam trigger.. you'll damage them... each trigger wire must be independently powered one or the other at a time. I've had their cheaper road shock pod lights for several years & use them literally every day as a driving/fog light... zero problems, no water/condensation issues, no burnt out diodes or frosted lenses... those are their cheaper ones... still happy...I also have the Rigid pod lights, they are a bit brighter, work perfectly, but again, 3x more & the finish on those has peeled after 5 years. These new line of H.F. EDGE lights.. you can tell the quality is way better.. so I think these are gonna be VERY popular for the average consumer... most people can justify $149 per light (300/set) but it's really hard to choke down the thought of $980 (plus tax) for something not much better... and even then... it's a personal opinion if it's even noticeable for 3x more.... Harbor Freight knocked these lights outta the park!
What is the color temperature like on the HF lights versus the BD ones? The blue quality of most aftermarket LEDs really bothers me, so I've installed Diode Dynamics yellow lights with clear lenses retrofit for a nice ~4k kelvin temperature. The periphery lighting of the HF RS6 lights has me really interested in putting a pair of them on the roof rack, instead of the LP9 sports that I've been trying to justify.
I think the HF’s color temp is not too far from BD’s LP6, if you watch the video where I flip between those two quickly, they color temp to me seems similar.
And don’t forget the HF has a 4 shooter, imo it would be a better choice on the roof of trucks, could literally get a whole row of those and still be under the cost of a pair of lp9s.
@@4WDisLife Do you there is much compromise for the peripheral lighting on the HF RS4 lights compared to the RS6 or the Baja LP9? I have four DD SS5 pods on the front end of my 4Runner for forward lighting - I mostly want some light up high for distance and peripheral at this point.
@@Telamonster2I actually would guess it’s about the same with RS6 in terms of peripheral lighting or width of the light pattern if you go for the combo pattern RS4. Combo RS4 has two wide pattern lens facing front just like the RS6 and probably similar in the side shooting. I think it’s a strong contender but I have not personally tested them.
Well put together video! Rather shocked at the HF lights! I too have had very good results with the Auxbeam lights as well, especially for their price.
Thanks and I have not tested the amp drawn. FWIW, it does say wiring for one light requires 14gauge wires and two lights require for 12 gauge wires, which is identical to what Baja is calling for in their user manual.
Great comparison! Any chance you want to do the same comparison with the smaller set of new HF ones as well? 😄 I just picked up a set of the colight trailblazer lights otherwise I’d definitely pick up a set of these HF. Nice job 👍
thank you. I didn’t do the smaller Hf since it really only had one competitor being lp4, also it has two beam pattern options, I’d say if you have a row of four HF smaller pods, two spot in the middle and two combo on the side would be more than enough. I do like the backlight shape of the colight trailblazer but didn’t have a chance to test them out.
@@4WDisLife gotcha, the colight trailblazer for the cost I think are great. Very happy with them so far. I also have a set of their 3 inch dual color pods and they have been good too. But it’s always nice to have reasonably priced and good quality options. Thanks again 👍
Loved the review, really impressed with HB and mostly with BD. 1k for a pair is still tough. Do you think the novsight halo 6 inches could compete in this segment?
This is plain incredible. Getting to see them in action helped a lot. The Baja Design lights are awesome, but to supplement a good set of stock headlights they may not be so necessary. Those Harbor Freight lamps seem like theybwould work excellently with a good set of stock headlights.
Right on! That is exactly my thought as well. Hack I can also supplement the HF with a pair of smaller Baja's squadron light pods on the side if I want more zone 3 performance.
I think the side shot of the lights should be out in the field instead next to the garage door. I think you were getting some garage door light bounce off for the lux comparison. Other than that great video. The HF lights are impressive for the price. Better than I thought.
Thank you for this. I have a 2022 Tundra and want to get some of the HF lights, and this really really helps. But I do have a question. Do you think these could be mounted on hood mounts (Up by the windshield) and still function well? My concern is that the HF may illuminate the hood very brightly and be counterproductive to true vision. Thoughts? (Any response would be welcome and I would be thankful. )
Hi, thanks for the comment, I would not recommend using these HF lights on the ditch light location (a pillar above hood) because they are so wide they will definitely blind the drivers and passengers when turned on. On the ditch light location, I personally would either put a strong spot beam pattern (minimal glare/reflection back into the cab) or a good evenly distributed and wide enough patter and have them aimed at the ditch, that way they'd not shooting light back into the cab. Also one of the reason I don't recommend using HF lights on the hood is they are very very heavy. Cheers!
@@4WDisLife Thank you so much for the reply. Perhaps I will wait on the 6light until I get the hybrid bumper installed with the brush guard. (Perhaps these will be more suited at that location. I will look into the spots for ditch light location like you said. Are the ones from HF also a good choice, or do you have a different recommendation?
Thanks for this video! Very well done and evenly comparisons, I'm pretty surprised with the harbor freight results! Looks like a very nice alternative.
No denying the Roadshock is a good value. I would say that when installed, the side shooters will be prone to blockage by bumper shape and the other lights being alongside. What many enthusiasts don't always fully grasp is that @bajadesigns is really a RACE lighting company. When driving at speed, that additional "side shooter" is going to be a distraction to your peripherals. I will concede that this isn't as much of a concern for most consumers. However, this is why BD puts so much emphasis on their lighting Zones. Having installed, driven, and raced with a multitude of lights: they really are the top of the heap, but you gotta pay to play.
I am not 100% following on the side shooter part, lp6 also has side shooter and is one of the brightest in the test, so if side shooter is a distraction, why would they even have that being race oriented lighting?
@4WDisLife in a race or higher speed effort, your focus more on the horizon and what's coming. Anything that's in your "side shooter" area should be for verification or already too close to worry about at this point. When ripping with the Onyx6 40, for example, I prefer the combo pattern white center and amber on the ends. It focuses your attention on the center and looking ahead. Meanwhile, allowing you to see the ditches, but your main focus is up and forward. The LP is a great light, and like you said, HF put more emphasis on their side lighting than BD. It can seem to the lay-person to be an advantage, but a racer knows it's pretty useless. With mid to long travel suspension the speeds are a lot higher, anybody that rode dirt bikes knows you should have planned ahead already
@@CodyCrafted good info. I believed the advantage in the wide pattern comes in the low beam lens and not the side shooter section, but maybe I am wrong.
I gotta give it to Harbor Freight! That light has fantadtic side illumination and a pretty descent focused beam. Paired with the stock headlights, great! For the price point, looks like a great purchase..
A long term durability test would be good. I run Baja Designs lights (light bar, pillar lights, chase lights) on my Raptor and I’ve done thousands of miles of high speed off-roading. The lights have never failed once. I’m curious if Harbor Freight would hold up the same. If yes, then at that price they are a very good option.
It is great to know that Baja’s light been working well for you through out time. For the Harbor freight I have actually done a torture test to one of my lights (run over with my truck, water submerged for 4 days and froze it and hammered it out of block of ice), it held up great for what I tested, and it has been almost a year since I purchased them and they still work well. I will definitely throw a long term review when it hits a year mark and keep people posted. Cheers.
I am not spending $300 on harbor freight lights. There might be a slim chance I would if they had like a 5-10 year warranty but I’d much rather pay for some other brand, not spending $300 for 90 days.
Someone else made a great point that you can purchase their protection warranty for $30ish for another two years I believe. Still not lifetime but better than 90 days.
@GRAGGLE "If for any reason you are not satisfied with an item purchased from Harbor Freight Tools, you may return the product within 90 days for a full refund or replacement, whichever you prefer. The limited warranty term is 90-day beginning on the date of invoice. You must provide the original receipt to receive an exchange or refund."
I see where you are coming from. Some products do well new but don't last long term. Personally, I think its worth the risk, especially with the $30 insurance. Another option is buying them used for a nice discount on offerup or the FB market place don't have much to lose then.
Good review. Would have been interesting to see the Roadshock Edge 4 LED light rolled into this comparison. Not so much as a comparison with the Roadshock 6 LED or BD, but I bet it would have fared nicely against the Auxbeam and Knockoff LP6 and at only $210 for a pair...
hey, thank you and yes, I would have no doubt that even the edge 4 led would be much better than the knockoff lp6s and other smaller form lights given how great the edge 6 performed.
Honestly I think the HF is the way to go just from a price to performance stand point. But if you really do want the best of the best BD still has that position.
agreed. One thing that also maybe important is the warranty. HF offers 90 days warranty and BD offers life time. However, you can buy 2 year additional warranty for a reasonable price at HF.
I think the HF is better as an offroad light compared to BD. The foreground on the BD is too intense and will impair your distance vision. Compared to the HF that’s dark in the middle of the foreground, but increases width. The less intense foreground is filled with the low beams, so there’s no need for the BD’s foreground.
Uhh any other companies trying to sue you for to keep quiet? Because I hate Baja design because it's so pricey .I can't even afford it. That's why I like the knock offs😊
Well. I thought about it but it doesn’t have a side shooting function and therefore its beam pattern is not going to be as wide. So I kept this comparison strictly for side shooter only.
@@robertdrawdy3749for sure. I have a video previously tested the auxbeam 360pro in a 9 inch size, it decimates most of the lights in terms of the distance.
Nacho Grandes not being in this comparison is a travesty. Those can be had for 30% off if you look around so two of them would cost $560 and they are the top dog in my observation
I think the harbor freight lights will be a perfect replacement for my stock tj fog lights. 99% of the time I use fog lights on the dark desert back roads without high beams.
My conclusion: The HF lights are a little weak in the middle compared to the BD lights but the HF lights are clear winners in the side light area. The headlights fill in the middle where the HF are weak so I give the HF lights the win. Would like to know how the Auxbeam 20" lightbar compares to the HF lights. It is a combo of spot and flood and as impressive as the KC Hilite LED headlights are on my Wrangler, the $37 Auxbeam lightbar out shines them. For anyone who has had both, why use a pair of lights over a lightbar? The pair of lights has 12 total LEDs and my lightbar is 18" of double row LEDs with many flood lights and spot lights.
BD got a $0.65 LED from China and HF got a $0.60 LED from China. Only difference. Get the HF and live happy. BD overpriced for lights. Not sure when if became a flex to overpay for stuff
I really wish you would have put these all on a simple watt meter. Wattage is king, and no doubt it would have very much correlated to output. There is no magic lens, or magic diode, work is work, but marketing is perception.
I mean if that’s what you are looking for, the products website should have all the wattage numbers. I disagree the wattage is king, I believe the effective output coming out of the lens is more important than raw wattage.
The low beam of the LP6 scatters WAY too much light above where the normal cutoff should be. Not safe for other vehicles on the road. I’d expect a much better light for $400+. I’m definitely going with Harbor Freight
I am planning on doing more comparisons like this one, please comment on what lights you want to see compared below, thank you!
Compare a small lightbar to a pair of these lights. Seems like the lightbar should win easily enough?
Oh, and thanks for this comparison. Good stuff!
@@gregmacklemonly light bar experience I have is with the Auxbeam 5D pro and it was amazingly bright.
@@gregmacklem guess what, I am going to get an auxbeam 5dpro 12inch light bar and compare it with HF rs6, and two other round lights just to see how different/similar they are, I am super curious too.
@@gregmacklem were you able to see this comparison on my channel? posted recently. cheers!
Harbor freight has been killing it in the off road community. Not all of us can afford $1000 winches and $1000 lights. Thank you for this video
Totally. Thank you for commenting.
And there's a HG near all of us for easy warranty returns
Best comparison on youtube. There is no way I’m dropping $1k just to get a set of light. Harbor Freight is performing at 90% while at third of the price. They are absolutely killing it with the Roadshock line.
I hope to put a set on my car before winter!
I wish all lighting videos were like yours, very concise and great comparisons. I look forward to seeing more!
Thank you for the kind words. I try my best to show objectively how the lights look and perform.
Added the HF lights last week and am extremely happy with every aspect of them. Your video validated my decision.
right? Build quality and light output is definitely very good.
Man, super well done video. Ive been considering the HF lights, specifically the 3 inch LED pairs for my bike and the $100 4 LED spotlight and I can't find anything this comprehensive on any of them. This review of the Edge gives promise for the others. I appreciate that you actually measured the LUX and not just lumens and took the time to address things like the better side light spread. Not many people do such comprehensive reviews so your work stands out. Lookin forward to more!
*Also, not sure if a shootout between all the new HF lights would bring enough revenue to fund the whole project but Id certainly watch it 😊
Thank you for the kind words man, it means a lot to me. Let’s see whether HF would be kind enough for maybe sending me some products to test in the future.
@@4WDisLife keep us posted!
I'm such a nerd, I watched the whole video.
Hopefully the video didn’t disappoint
I have knockoff Baja lights and real ANZO lights, the difference in light output is significant. @@4WDisLife
I tried but the vocal fry was too much for me.
@@ratfarmers thank you for trying tho
We are not nerds, just interested 😂
KILLER video! The back to back comparisons are great but showing the low vs high with your truck lights on and off man you really showed the real world application. Very impressed!
Thank you! Glad you see the value in it!
I’m with them, fantastic job!
Best pod light comparison video on UA-cam.
Appreciate that
You gota make the little color spots up top at 21:26 bigger. Can't tell what is what... (especially as they aren't in order) But, overall really good vid! (I'd never spend $1k on lights... my body would just shut down)
Thank you!
Thank you for taking the time and the effort and producing and bringing us this video. Very well done again I appreciate it.
thank you for the kind words. Cheers!
Literally the best and easy to follow comparison video. I wish every comparison video would be like this
I just made a light bar with 6 of the harbor freight 4s. (6s are way to big for a light bar). The HB lights are amazing for the price and quality
Six of these HF RS4 lights would be super bright for any condition
I have been breaking my head trying to figure out where to start to figure out how to make a light bar with the HF lights for my off road vehicle. Do you have any resources or guidance? Thanks in advance
@@HectorHernandez-ij5yu I already had the light bar mount for my Wrangler JK. The kind that is tubular and goes on the sides and all the way across the the top. I used L iron and bolted them on the vertical part. The HB lights have 2 bolts per side. I just used 1 per side and the aloud the mount to swivel to the rear of the light. I did this to keep the lights from sticking up so high. It lowered them about halfway. Then I wired them up to each other. They pull a lot of power so you have to use a bigger gauge wire for the harness. I had all 6 on one harness but the wire was getting hot. I wired 3 and 3 then to 2 separate switches and It works fine now. I also flipped the lights upside down cuz the plugs in the back were to close to the windshield. You can’t even tell really.
That was the best comparison video of the lights I’ve ever seen. Good Job.
Thank you!
Great video, you’re one of the reviews I’ve seen that provides the flip back and forth for the light comparisons, thanks!
We're in the market for floods. This solidifies that Harbor Freight will be the one we go with. Thanks for taking the time to do this video
Thank you for the comment. I have also done a torture test to see how tough the light is and you are welcome to check that out as well. Cheers!
@@4WDisLife will do.
I've been specifically wanting a wider, think cornering light width, and the HFt does it for that. Perfect.
Thanks, this was perfect. I was specifically looking for something that was like a “super” fog light to mount low. Getting to see the light patterns of these was nice
Thanks for the comment, glad it was helpful!
Harbor freight, I’m impressed small light with side shooters, really good length and trowing distance 👌 but as a Norwegian still quite expensive, compared to what we got over for almost half the price with twice the outputs, but I love the looks 😍
Watched a lot of your comparison videos, you both make it understandable, and field tests that actually shows the light.
Keep it up!
Extremely helpful comparison when purchasing lower price off road lights. I'm very surprised Harbor Freight made quality light and at an affordable price. Thanks man.
Very well put together comparison. Thank you for the effort and money spent to bring us this info. Really enjoyed the side-by-side screen shots to show the instant comparison. Thanks brother!
Thank you, I am glad the video brings value to you!
Great video! Very thorough and clear!
Thank you!
Thank you for showing what a driver would actually see from an off road light.
I watched Harbor Freights on the new Edge lights and they placed the camera about 20 feet from the light and Pointed directly into the light.
That tells a driver Nothing about the down the road view of the beam. Sure it is bright when pointed into your eyes but so is a Pen Light.
Thanks the comment and yes, I intentionally not trying to film into the lights since any light would “blind” the camera at night if point right at it.
I've been running BD LP4 and LP6 lights on my 1st gen tacoma for over 4 years in every imaginable weather condition as I live where it shows, is foggy, blizzards, sand storms, etc. I can't count how many times I've had dudes stop to talk to me about how much better my lights are in all conditions on road or off-road.
Yes, I have no doubt that BD lights are built solid, personally I have two pairs of their squadron lights, and they have been good for me. I will test out the longevity of the HF's new lights on my vehicle and report back.
I think these roadshock edge lights might be answering the lighting need and desire people have been trying to satisfy. These lights aren't about marketing numbers and data points, these are lights people use & then they start caring about lighting quality.
hotspots are ugly and take more effort for your body to process than smooth even lighting.
The amber covers are totally the better choice of lighting, I know some people are crazy about bright white leds, but yellow & amber are so much better at night.
People are over light bars, there's no good reason to use one when a single set of pod lights will outperform. right now people are nostalgic for old off road lights, but want modern equivalents.
Great test. Love to see Nilight in there, too. They have killer customer service and great products.
I grabbed a set of 6” two weeks ago. Haven’t installed them but for the cost they become close enough to the quality of BD. Nice job on the video.
Thank you!
Excellent choice on the background music and not having something annoying! Great vid thank you! HF it is!
Glad you enjoyed! Someone might say it’s boring but I prefer something that’s not too noisy if you know what I mean lol. Thanks!
@@4WDisLifenot boring at all. Very informative!
Really well done video, thank you for the effort you put into this
Thank you for the kind comment man, it means a lot.
Such a well done comparison. Thanks man!
Thank you!
If you take the HF Lumens/BD Lumens you will see its 80%+.
I bought 7 HF lights for $1200 (lightbar) and 4 of the smaller 4 leds ($400) , so $1600 for the setup for under two pairs of BD with 80%+ the output, HF for the win
Excellent work man, thank you for doing this. A lot of work and money in this video. I’ll be getting the HF lights
Thank you for the comment. I am glad it helps you out!
@@4WDisLife we ride sxs and it’s a bit of a different use case than pickups. Most people have light bars
Amazing video! One thing to further improve it, would be to measure the current draw of the lights. I'm looking into using them on a motorcycle which has a limited alternator output.
Thank you for the helpful feedback, I am going to look into that.
@@4WDisLife Yeah it ads efficiency as a metric.
One light consuming e.g. 80w vs another 40w, the 80w will almost certain be brighter. But would 2 x 40 w be brighter and have a better overlapping beam pattern?
A lot of budget manufactures also claims false wattage and this would be revealed with a current draw measurement.
Fantastic Review! Harbor Freight is KNOCKING it out of the park for budget lights.
Thank you! And yes they are very budget friendly while being closer to BD than other cheaper options.
Dude I loved your video! Thanks for this I bought the knock off's cause that's what I could afford but I'm happy with those, I accidentally dropped them on the floor from about 1.9mts and they're working 100%
Thanks for the video, u sold me on the harbor freight light. Very detailed video.
Excellent video with great nighttime comparisons. Baja is insane @ just under $1000 for two lights... I don't care how good they are... I wouldn't spend that much. The Harbor Freight lights are extremely impressive. I particularly like how wide the peripheral illumination is. Even though these are listed as off road use only... we all know many people who live in rural areas will use these to watch for Deer etc... and the wide illumination is perfect for watching Ditches. but they also have a powerful long distance throw for long distance illumination. BD simply isn't worth their over 3x higher price... I actually purchased the first set of the HF LED6's at my local store..when they had their 15%off special, no exclusions. so they were like $127 each, they know me as a regular so they allowed me to make two separate purchases to get the deal on each one (it was a 1 discount per person/per day thing). they never even knew they existed & had never seen them... I showed them the HF website listing, they searched the item number... and they had to go in the back room & dig thru their recent pallet delivery to find a box. I bought their first and only set. sold individually, but boxed in groups of two. I can tell you, even the box is high quality... the lights themselves are Hefty, they feel substantial. they have nice finishes & quality wiring. (important note: it's worth it to buy their premade wiring/dual switch (like $59 i think).... being these need a pretty heavy gauge wire for the amperage draw & have low & high positions as well as an optional amber backlight.... they must be wired with separate dedicated power leads for low & high... you CANNOT power low beam & them add power to the high beam trigger.. you'll damage them... each trigger wire must be independently powered one or the other at a time. I've had their cheaper road shock pod lights for several years & use them literally every day as a driving/fog light... zero problems, no water/condensation issues, no burnt out diodes or frosted lenses... those are their cheaper ones... still happy...I also have the Rigid pod lights, they are a bit brighter, work perfectly, but again, 3x more & the finish on those has peeled after 5 years. These new line of H.F. EDGE lights.. you can tell the quality is way better.. so I think these are gonna be VERY popular for the average consumer... most people can justify $149 per light (300/set) but it's really hard to choke down the thought of $980 (plus tax) for something not much better... and even then... it's a personal opinion if it's even noticeable for 3x more.... Harbor Freight knocked these lights outta the park!
100% agree, well said!
What is the color temperature like on the HF lights versus the BD ones? The blue quality of most aftermarket LEDs really bothers me, so I've installed Diode Dynamics yellow lights with clear lenses retrofit for a nice ~4k kelvin temperature. The periphery lighting of the HF RS6 lights has me really interested in putting a pair of them on the roof rack, instead of the LP9 sports that I've been trying to justify.
I think the HF’s color temp is not too far from BD’s LP6, if you watch the video where I flip between those two quickly, they color temp to me seems similar.
And don’t forget the HF has a 4 shooter, imo it would be a better choice on the roof of trucks, could literally get a whole row of those and still be under the cost of a pair of lp9s.
@@4WDisLife Do you there is much compromise for the peripheral lighting on the HF RS4 lights compared to the RS6 or the Baja LP9? I have four DD SS5 pods on the front end of my 4Runner for forward lighting - I mostly want some light up high for distance and peripheral at this point.
@@Telamonster2I actually would guess it’s about the same with RS6 in terms of peripheral lighting or width of the light pattern if you go for the combo pattern RS4. Combo RS4 has two wide pattern lens facing front just like the RS6 and probably similar in the side shooting. I think it’s a strong contender but I have not personally tested them.
23:05 there are distinct advantages to the lower lux / pattern that HF throws ie running On Road
Well put together video! Rather shocked at the HF lights! I too have had very good results with the Auxbeam lights as well, especially for their price.
Thank you! Are you shocked at the HF in a good way or bad way? Just curious
@@4WDisLife in a good way for sure.
Really like the pattern of the harbor freight lights. Did you happen to test the amp draw of the lights?
Thanks and I have not tested the amp drawn. FWIW, it does say wiring for one light requires 14gauge wires and two lights require for 12 gauge wires, which is identical to what Baja is calling for in their user manual.
Great comparison! Any chance you want to do the same comparison with the smaller set of new HF ones as well? 😄 I just picked up a set of the colight trailblazer lights otherwise I’d definitely pick up a set of these HF. Nice job 👍
thank you. I didn’t do the smaller Hf since it really only had one competitor being lp4, also it has two beam pattern options, I’d say if you have a row of four HF smaller pods, two spot in the middle and two combo on the side would be more than enough. I do like the backlight shape of the colight trailblazer but didn’t have a chance to test them out.
@@4WDisLife gotcha, the colight trailblazer for the cost I think are great. Very happy with them so far. I also have a set of their 3 inch dual color pods and they have been good too. But it’s always nice to have reasonably priced and good quality options. Thanks again 👍
Good video the field view was a great help 👍 I'm on a budget and HF has worked great for me and will probably get the lights
Glad to know the previous HF light products are quality as well.
Loved the review, really impressed with HB and mostly with BD. 1k for a pair is still tough. Do you think the novsight halo 6 inches could compete in this segment?
Personally I don’t think a novsight or any light without side shooting function can compare. At least not wi the how wide the beam pattern will be.
HF definitely closed the price gap. BH is quantifiably not 3x better, and we know that thanks to this mans work 😅
i usually run BD, Rigid or Black Oak, but great to see these HF come close at a great value
yea HF seems to be doing very well in the sub $300 class.
This is plain incredible. Getting to see them in action helped a lot. The Baja Design lights are awesome, but to supplement a good set of stock headlights they may not be so necessary. Those Harbor Freight lamps seem like theybwould work excellently with a good set of stock headlights.
Right on! That is exactly my thought as well. Hack I can also supplement the HF with a pair of smaller Baja's squadron light pods on the side if I want more zone 3 performance.
I think the side shot of the lights should be out in the field instead next to the garage door. I think you were getting some garage door light bounce off for the lux comparison. Other than that great video. The HF lights are impressive for the price. Better than I thought.
You have a point there. I will try measure the side shooter in the field next time. HF still provides a much wider low beam than anyone I have seen.
Thank you for this. I have a 2022 Tundra and want to get some of the HF lights, and this really really helps. But I do have a question. Do you think these could be mounted on hood mounts (Up by the windshield) and still function well? My concern is that the HF may illuminate the hood very brightly and be counterproductive to true vision. Thoughts?
(Any response would be welcome and I would be thankful. )
Hi, thanks for the comment, I would not recommend using these HF lights on the ditch light location (a pillar above hood) because they are so wide they will definitely blind the drivers and passengers when turned on. On the ditch light location, I personally would either put a strong spot beam pattern (minimal glare/reflection back into the cab) or a good evenly distributed and wide enough patter and have them aimed at the ditch, that way they'd not shooting light back into the cab. Also one of the reason I don't recommend using HF lights on the hood is they are very very heavy. Cheers!
@@4WDisLife Thank you so much for the reply. Perhaps I will wait on the 6light until I get the hybrid bumper installed with the brush guard. (Perhaps these will be more suited at that location. I will look into the spots for ditch light location like you said. Are the ones from HF also a good choice, or do you have a different recommendation?
Perfect. Just perfect. Thanks a bunch!
Really great comparison review. Wold love to see some comparisons between, BD, Nacho, KC, Vision. Arguably the top manufacturers in their field.
Thank you, I am actually talking with Nacho for an opportunity to test their lights out
Thanks for this video! Very well done and evenly comparisons, I'm pretty surprised with the harbor freight results! Looks like a very nice alternative.
Thank you! Yes for the price it’s probably is a very good light.
Was this test completed with a single light or are these numbers with the pair of lights? Thanks
One single light. It shows the light pattern better with one single light IMO.
ok just filmed what the pair of HF RS6 lights look like at night, will post soon.
Great video thank you for taking the time to go into such detail.
Thank you for the comment, I try to be thorough.
Great comparison thank you
thank you, glad you find it useful.
This was a great video I'm going with the hf lights
Thank you !
Thanks. Very well done comparo. HF has come out with a great light for the $$.
100% also consider the 4 led one at a even lower price point, probably similar performance just less bright.
No denying the Roadshock is a good value. I would say that when installed, the side shooters will be prone to blockage by bumper shape and the other lights being alongside.
What many enthusiasts don't always fully grasp is that @bajadesigns is really a RACE lighting company. When driving at speed, that additional "side shooter" is going to be a distraction to your peripherals.
I will concede that this isn't as much of a concern for most consumers. However, this is why BD puts so much emphasis on their lighting Zones. Having installed, driven, and raced with a multitude of lights: they really are the top of the heap, but you gotta pay to play.
I am not 100% following on the side shooter part, lp6 also has side shooter and is one of the brightest in the test, so if side shooter is a distraction, why would they even have that being race oriented lighting?
@4WDisLife in a race or higher speed effort, your focus more on the horizon and what's coming. Anything that's in your "side shooter" area should be for verification or already too close to worry about at this point.
When ripping with the Onyx6 40, for example, I prefer the combo pattern white center and amber on the ends. It focuses your attention on the center and looking ahead. Meanwhile, allowing you to see the ditches, but your main focus is up and forward.
The LP is a great light, and like you said, HF put more emphasis on their side lighting than BD. It can seem to the lay-person to be an advantage, but a racer knows it's pretty useless. With mid to long travel suspension the speeds are a lot higher, anybody that rode dirt bikes knows you should have planned ahead already
@@CodyCrafted good info. I believed the advantage in the wide pattern comes in the low beam lens and not the side shooter section, but maybe I am wrong.
Excellent video and commentary. Keep it up.
Thank you man, glad you like it!
I gotta give it to Harbor Freight! That light has fantadtic side illumination and a pretty descent focused beam. Paired with the stock headlights, great! For the price point, looks like a great purchase..
100%
A long term durability test would be good. I run Baja Designs lights (light bar, pillar lights, chase lights) on my Raptor and I’ve done thousands of miles of high speed off-roading. The lights have never failed once. I’m curious if Harbor Freight would hold up the same. If yes, then at that price they are a very good option.
It is great to know that Baja’s light been working well for you through out time. For the Harbor freight I have actually done a torture test to one of my lights (run over with my truck, water submerged for 4 days and froze it and hammered it out of block of ice), it held up great for what I tested, and it has been almost a year since I purchased them and they still work well. I will definitely throw a long term review when it hits a year mark and keep people posted. Cheers.
Nice job on the review!
I bought the HF ones and honestly no complaints for the price.
They are very solid and worth the price.
Are you testing one light or a pair of lights at a time?
The video showed single light comparison.
I am not spending $300 on harbor freight lights. There might be a slim chance I would if they had like a 5-10 year warranty but I’d much rather pay for some other brand, not spending $300 for 90 days.
Someone else made a great point that you can purchase their protection warranty for $30ish for another two years I believe. Still not lifetime but better than 90 days.
Where did you get 90 days from lmao
@GRAGGLE "If for any reason you are not satisfied with an item purchased from Harbor Freight Tools, you may return the product within 90 days for a full refund or replacement, whichever you prefer. The limited warranty term is 90-day beginning on the date of invoice. You must provide the original receipt to receive an exchange or refund."
I see where you are coming from. Some products do well new but don't last long term. Personally, I think its worth the risk, especially with the $30 insurance. Another option is buying them used for a nice discount on offerup or the FB market place don't have much to lose then.
@@JonFox1945 agreed, since this video, I have also torture tested the HF light, man I tell you they are one tough light.
Good review. Would have been interesting to see the Roadshock Edge 4 LED light rolled into this comparison. Not so much as a comparison with the Roadshock 6 LED or BD, but I bet it would have fared nicely against the Auxbeam and Knockoff LP6 and at only $210 for a pair...
hey, thank you and yes, I would have no doubt that even the edge 4 led would be much better than the knockoff lp6s and other smaller form lights given how great the edge 6 performed.
Great video. Thank you!!
Glad you liked it!
Harbor freight been killing it everywhere
Agreed.
I think a $ to $ comparison would be pretty cool. i.e. 8 knockoff LP6's vs 1 real one
Superb!
Thanks. What do you think? Did the video answer some of the questions you may have before?
Honestly I think the HF is the way to go just from a price to performance stand point. But if you really do want the best of the best BD still has that position.
agreed. One thing that also maybe important is the warranty. HF offers 90 days warranty and BD offers life time. However, you can buy 2 year additional warranty for a reasonable price at HF.
Baja designs hotspots are not easy to see contrast, I personally like the wide even coverage of the Harbor Freight
Tractor supply has some nice off road lights too.
Good to know! May have to check them out sometime in the future.
great ty
Thank you!
I think the HF is better as an offroad light compared to BD. The foreground on the BD is too intense and will impair your distance vision. Compared to the HF that’s dark in the middle of the foreground, but increases width. The less intense foreground is filled with the low beams, so there’s no need for the BD’s foreground.
Nacho Offroad Technology just came out with a large bar mount light called The Grande
just checked, never heard of it but looks powerful, and very expensive.
Uhh any other companies trying to sue you for to keep quiet?
Because I hate Baja design because it's so pricey .I can't even afford it. That's why I like the knock offs😊
Great work
thank you!
Very well done
You gotta add the Auxbeam pro 360 7in in the mix
Well. I thought about it but it doesn’t have a side shooting function and therefore its beam pattern is not going to be as wide. So I kept this comparison strictly for side shooter only.
@4WDisLife I understand that but the throw of the lp6 vs the auxbeam 360 would be interesting. Cause ik both throw decently far
@@robertdrawdy3749for sure. I have a video previously tested the auxbeam 360pro in a 9 inch size, it decimates most of the lights in terms of the distance.
@@robertdrawdy3749 OK, auxbeam 360pro 7 inch received, will be doing the comparison soon, along with the colight's new 7 inch.
I heard rough country came out with some nice lights
Interesting.
@@4WDisLifesame with Sylvainia
interesting info, but Baja Designs all the way here
Baja is definitely a quality light
Nacho Grandes not being in this comparison is a travesty. Those can be had for 30% off if you look around so two of them would cost $560 and they are the top dog in my observation
Where do you typically find them 30% off?
Tks,, very helpful info. HF going on my bronco!
Thank you for commenting and I agree. HF is the best bang for the bucks.
I think the harbor freight lights will be a perfect replacement for my stock tj fog lights. 99% of the time I use fog lights on the dark desert back roads without high beams.
that sounds like a 100% match for your needs!
My conclusion: The HF lights are a little weak in the middle compared to the BD lights but the HF lights are clear winners in the side light area. The headlights fill in the middle where the HF are weak so I give the HF lights the win. Would like to know how the Auxbeam 20" lightbar compares to the HF lights. It is a combo of spot and flood and as impressive as the KC Hilite LED headlights are on my Wrangler, the $37 Auxbeam lightbar out shines them.
For anyone who has had both, why use a pair of lights over a lightbar? The pair of lights has 12 total LEDs and my lightbar is 18" of double row LEDs with many flood lights and spot lights.
I think the choice between lightbar vs pods can also be personal since someone likes the look of pods or vise versa.
Just wondering if anybody put four Baja designs on their front bumper and left the truck parked anywhere asking for a friend
I think I'm going to go with the RoadShock EDGE. I'll leave the BDs to guys with a racing budget -- and sponsored UA-camrs.
awesome
BD got a $0.65 LED from China and HF got a $0.60 LED from China. Only difference. Get the HF and live happy. BD overpriced for lights. Not sure when if became a flex to overpay for stuff
I really wish you would have put these all on a simple watt meter. Wattage is king, and no doubt it would have very much correlated to output. There is no magic lens, or magic diode, work is work, but marketing is perception.
I mean if that’s what you are looking for, the products website should have all the wattage numbers. I disagree the wattage is king, I believe the effective output coming out of the lens is more important than raw wattage.
@@4WDisLife the actual numbers are always much different than the claimed numbers, and would lend to your review.
Here come that Harbor Freight Train!
Super awesome man . A lot of information so I don’t have to , I love it
Thanks man for the kind words.
The low beam of the LP6 scatters WAY too much light above where the normal cutoff should be. Not safe for other vehicles on the road. I’d expect a much better light for $400+. I’m definitely going with Harbor Freight
You are right in a way but lp6 is designed to be used solely for Offroad purposes, and good choice in HF!
I think I prefer the less bright harbor freight lights, they don't wash out any definition.
thats a very good point!
980 dollars.....LOL
Hf looked wide but dark ... Aux was 2"s smaller which is not comparable
true, I am wrapping up on a HF4 led vs auxbeam 5 inch now, should be up soon.
Epic thumbnail typo 🤣
Sorry which word?
@@4WDisLife if you look hard enough, you'll find it.
@4WDisLife BTW great video. Gotta buy an LP6 for my Harley 👍
@@lucasholt3482thank you. I heard they make SAE models for lp6 now.
Check your spelling on Baja DESIGNS, not Deisngs. And in your headline it's misspelled, too. Baja Designs (plural), not Design (singular).
oops I guess it is a typo on the text from 4:16-6:15 minute mark. Thanks for correcting.
Just wanna say that the 6 road shock edge is not 300 a pieace there 150
The price shown is for a pair of
Your "Lp6" amazon is more like Baja Design LP9.
Yea the knock off "lp6" is more like a LP9 looking style however, the exterior dimension is surely a "LP6" size.