How to Avoid Five Deadly Takeoff Mistakes
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2020
- In this AVweb video, Paul Bertorelli reviews two takeoff accidents--including the crash of his own Mooney--to illustrate how to recognize and avoid takeoff risks.
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My instructor was an ex-RAAF pilot, he always told me when the engine quits it's the insurance companies plane now. Don't kill yourself trying to save the plane!
Your instructor was completely right - he was trying to save you.
And thanks Paul for another great video!
I've been in and out of Downtown myself. It was a great location for an airport - in 1927...
😶
But a pilot always makes sure the passengers are safe before anything else.
@@subthermosphere We're talking about engine failure on the climb out in a light aircraft, not evacuation. The passengers don't really factor into a decision about how to get your aircraft on the ground and walk away. In fact throughout that decision making process, they don't exist. If you have non-flying passengers onboard who would not be able to assist, it's advisable to pull the intercom so you don't hear them. Screaming puts you off...
@@AndyMcGeever If they are screaming, they are breathing.
My goal in life is to never have Mr. Bertorelli use my actions as a Case Study.
Also try not to appear in an Air Safety Institute video with the sad music.
@@nitehawk86 try the "shot on an iphone" youtube genre and avoid that music too.
UNLESS it's a case study on what you should've done instead of what not to do.
@7:11 "Put the fuckin' nose down!"
Words to live by. Thanks for posting this.
"Keep flying until the crunching stops" - now THAT'S a lesson! Thank you.
"I probably didn't inhale" I love this guy's sense of humor
I remember when Slick Willie said that same thing back in the 90's.
It was my second favorite clip of him--after the "Tear on command" at that funeral.
It's the best part of these videos
Must have been some great grass if you can't say for sure.
@@Ty91681 That corny joke was the “best part” of the video for you? Smh 🤦🏾♂️
@@heavyizthacrown-5842 I think by saying "these videos" he was referring to his enjoyment of his sense of humor in the whole series of videos but whatever
In this 15 minute video, Paul Bertorelli packs more practical advice on how to avoid an engine-failure-on-takeoff-stall-spin accident than I would have thought possible. Great job - thanks.
Paul is a treasure of the aviation community.
When the engine quits, nose down increasing air speed IS you applying your backup power. Having glider hours really helps reaffirm this mindset and hard wires it into your every day pilot skills.
bc: Or, simply have adequate training in powered aircraft and be mentally prepared for engine loss emergencies.
Literally was just coming here to say this. Got many glider hours in during my youth on winch tows. Nothing teaches you that reflex quicker that a cable break on a winch in a nose high attitude. That nose has gotta come down quick
I bet that glider experience makes a big difference.
I have a plan after finishing my LAPL TMG license to get a glider training. There is an other skill for you from gliders, always planning landing outside from airfield. Also flying patterns without the engine. In my opinion it is good experience for every pilot.
@@ivansemanco6976 Absolute thumbs up to your input on the subject!! Well said! Thank you.
I did an intersection takeoff at Lake Placid, in a 172. . . Then I discovered the airport is in a bowl. . . and the terrain was rising at about the same speed as my rate of climb. “Nothing as useless as runway behind” came to mind. My heartrate was rising faster than the plane. 😀
I did the lake placid departure in a cessna 150. Had to circle climb for a while to get out of the fish bowl.
@@MOTOBLADE Good headwork, especially in a Cessna 150. Many times I've preplanned my departures with circling climbs and descents to observe altitude limits in controlled airspace and other terrain restrictions to keep my aircraft entirely safe. But it's important, for cabin comfort and security to routinely pre-brief and occasionally inform unknowing passengers what the big rollercoaster ride is for - and don't forget barf-bags!
I don't understand. You figured out the airport was in a bowl AFTER you took off? Isn't that supposed to be covered in your PreFlight planning?
@@carlwilliams6977 absolutely! It’s good to know if there’s terrain before you take off, it’s a big part of having a plan
I had an engine cowl flip open on my Cherokee when I got out of ground effect on take-off. It partially obscured the windshield and I had to make an instant choice of continuing the climb, or landing on the rest of the runway. For that flight I had decided to back-track and use the full runway because I had gotten into the habit of doing an intersection take-off and reminded myself that my instructors always told me to use the whole runway. Glad I kicked myself in the pants on that one as I was able to land on the rest of the runway with about 30 feet left after heavy braking. I always use the full runway now.... lesson learned. Doesn't have to just be an engine quitting. Be ready for the unexpected.
It's a pity people have to have a hard lesson to learn a lesson
As the late great Bob Hoover used to say " In the event of an engine failure, fly the damn thing into the crash as long as possible".
I was taught "it's YOUR job to crash the airplane, not the airplane's job".
@Matthew Morycinski Excellent. If we would do it in an airplane, why wouldn't we do it everyday of our lives?
if hoover said it i believe it
@@daffidavit I would like to live in an airplane. Done and done!
"The engine will, no shit, quit" I really enjoyed this video Paul, it's a great reminder. Thank you for sharing.
Ignore this rant if your young, isn’t UA-cam crazy though anyone at any age can make TV quality content for people to enjoy no matter what the interest is. Plus not to mention anything you want to learn is here literally anything I needed to know exactly how to upgrade the turbo in my car, well there’s an exact video on UA-cam with a step by step process to do so done by someone just like me or you. It’s actually insane and I can’t wait to see more of the technology in the future absolutely beautiful. I’m also only 27 seems young but I’m new to technology because I lived in the middle of the woods all my life with no internet until a year ago and wow I’ve been missing out. ❤️
These videos are so informative and even if there are some points I’ve heard before it’s great to have a refresher and bring it up to the top of my consciousness. Without doubt one of the videos in this series is going to save someone’s life. If it hasn’t already. Thanks again Paul.
Great video, I also loved the '''stuff a jacket in the door'' , nothing like
being able to exit a burning plane..
I'm a glider pilot and to us a rope braking during a winch launch is one of the most critical situations in flight. We practice a rope brake many times until pushing the nose down becomes instinct. Often the instructor doesn't tell the student beforehand and just opens the hook during the launch. Unlike your pulling the throttle out, there is no "undo" on this one. Once the rope is gone you are committed. It also happens much quicker because of the 30 degree angle of climb when the rope is released. You have no time to think, you have to decide what to do at what altitude before takeoff. You can either land straight ahead if low enough or if high enough do a u-turn, do a full circle to be at the same position at lower altitude or do a short pattern. Landing in a nearby field is also always an option.
Never trust a pilot who doesn't know the difference between 'brake' and 'break'.
I don't even know how to fly a plane but this channel is so interesting. Can't stop watching.
Same
Never too late to learn.
I was in the back seat of that Mooney in the swamp! I was young at the time, but I'd say to the pilots: be careful that you don't take a moment to absorb the sudden tranquility of an airplane going full power to no power. PUT THE F'ING NOSE DOWN.
You were in that Mooney in the swamp?
You are a real hero
Same thing on a motorcycle when the engine cuts out. You go ,"hunh...that's interesting..."
Lucky for you, the pilot knew what to do!
Glad you're still with us.
My old instructor didn't believe one of the students that a 172 was putting out partial power. He took it out for a flight and on take off the engine went to just above idle power. He made it around the circuit but needed new underwear upon landing.
I guess the lesson is if an engine is putting out partial power or quits and restarts, don;t trust it.
I assume you took another instructor after that ??
@@thefreedomguyuk I ended up joining the military and finishing my license after getting posted. He was a nice guy, the 172 ran fine on the ground but under full power it would suck up a peice of the heater box that had broken off and was still rattling around inside. Bad juju
Is that not what power checks are for?
Brianne C Sounds like someone shouldn’t be an instructor... I’m assuming this wasn’t an instructor based in the US?
Dyl Connaway Instructors make poor decisions all the time.. the US is not immune
Excellent. And, another great teacher on UA-cam says about instantly pitching down when power is lost, “feel light in your seat”. In other words you should feel the negative G because that is what is necessary when instantly pitching down so you don’t lose any speed, especially if it happens in a turn or a climb. Then you adjust for best glide speed.
That guy has been on Aviation 101 and Flight Chops, his free down load of the course makes really good reading.
Andy Myers I believe you’re referring to Dan Gryder, and the ‘course’ is called the AQP if you’re looking for it.
I used to work in a place that was 50 yards from a runway. We would go out and plane spot for lunch and breaks. I watched this beat up old Cessna 152 taxiing. It’s engine died. He restarted and pulled onto the runway. It died again. He restarted and ran it up to TO power and it died again. The final restart it stayed running, he slipped the brakes and into the clear blue sky he went. Stupid, brave, over confidence and just plain nuts.
That pilot had a death wish.
I hope the pilot doesn't kill anyone else.
He knew you were watching, he was turning off the mags on and off - but actualy just plain nuts!!
Paul, your presentations are spot on and as usual with NO B.S.! You are saving lives my friend! Saving lives.
Pitch down muscle memory, and taking off full length has saved me and the airplane I was flying 3 times in 30 + years of flying. Taking off midfield for a banner pickup cost my friend his ability to walk. Great video!
I watch a lot of youtubes, but Paul's are the only ones I thumbs-up before hitting play.
I literally just did that.
Same
Hello Paul: I hope you don't mind but I'm going to show this to my students. Thank you.
Why the hell would he mind? 🤣
Don't do it, he'll mind and get extremely irate and likely ban you from his channel. I've seen it happen to two other subscribers, he takes this kind of thing serious. Your students will have to find the video organically on their own without using the search function.
@@JessHull : If true, that's absurd!
@@maxbootstrap7397 He's being sarcastic.
max bootstrap how would he even know if he showed his students come on man you shoulda known that was sarcasm
Thank you Paul.
When first starting to watch your "instructional" videos, I was doing it for the crash information. I quickly realized that your videos really ARE great instruction for almost any type flying, or landing, well lets face it, your videos cover just about all facets of plane life! From sitting at home making the choice to go flying today, to putting the plane back in the barn AFTER the day of flying is over. You cover all of it. You do this with a very well balanced mix of seriousness blended with tasteful humor.
I guess my point is this:
At first, I thought you were going to be just another self-proclaimed know it all and spew out the same ole drivel that really does nobody any useable good. How wrong I was! You are very informative. You are very knowledgeable. You are very well spoken. You are very personable. There are a few more descriptive statements I could add, but you get the point I'm sure. I've been very lucky. I've been interested in flight of all kinds all my life and as a child studied bird flight...and landings. You wouldn't believe just how much THAT has helped me! Birds REALLY know what they're doing, for the most part. But I've also had some great instructors. One thing I remember most of all is my one ex-military instructor giving me unpaid advice..LOUDLY!! It was this, at high volume so I could never use the.."I didn't hear you"..excuse. He said these words to me..."FLY THE PLANE"!!! That means from the time your ass is in the seat until you are standing next to it! If you are in the seat, then you are flying the plane, period!! His piece of advice has saved my life, and possibly others, more times than I can count. Paul, in your way, your advice is just as simply practical and I intend to sit fwd on the edge of my seat and listen intently when you speak.
Lastly, after my long winded comment, I just want to thank you!
Thank you Paul for everything you give to us out here who will listen and hear you! You obviously have a passion for humanity as well as a love of flying. A good combination. A good and decent man.
Great job, Paul. I teach this to all my flight and ground students. I have had students who subsequently had engine-out situations. All lived to talk about it. I also practice what I preach.
Paul does the best aviation videos on the web. Thank for the hard work!
The best?? Are you sure of that? Why? what are the second best, so i can review then too. Waiting...
Your channel is an invaluable resource, the emphasis mainly toward private pilots, but valuable to any aviator regardless. The additional (and respectfully appropriate) humour would have made so many classroom hours literally ‘fly’ by.
You’re a master of the craft who knows that you never stop learning, so you’re uploads are perfect for everyone, no matter what page of the logbook you’re on, or what number logbook. Happy Flying! (Just some hot air from the UK).
Just a simple thank you, I always enjoy the breakdown. After watching your clips, I find myself thinking about the scenario off and on all day. Appreciate the time and effort.
I just love this channel, refreshingly straight shooting, and entertaining aviation content! Subscribed! Keep up the great work Paul.
I've always remembered a saying my ground school instructor said. "Eternity is forever why rush it?" Following a checklist and having a plan are essential. Great video.
I've been watching your videos for years, Paul, and I don't know if I have ever told you how outstanding and helpful your videos are. Thank you!
Thank you Paul! It is an honor to have you permanently welded into our phone!👍
I've been a weekend warrior pilot for 32 years, though have been medically grounded for just over 2 years. Hopefully will get medical back.
In early days flying in late 80's I did a lot of time in a 1966 Mooney M20C. Was only a 20 year old plane then!
It had the Johnson Bar for gear which was a great teacher for a new pilot in that you had to make sure your hands were in the right place before grabbing the lever and twisting your hand.
You had to be safely climbing before pull + twist.
The big lesson from its owner was though; only retract the gear when there is no more runway you can land on!
You could suck the gear up super fast with the Johnson Bar, but if you were very low and engine died, you'd be too busy to grab the bar and drop it. Though you could also drop gear quickly with the Bar too.
I've not flown retrac's for many years but have been in a 1975 Arrow II in recent years. Same situation even with electric gear.
Positive rate, no more runway I can land on, gear up!
Always loved your vids sir.
Best from me Down Under in Middle Earth!
Edit: Missed putting this in before. I was taught to always use full length, irrelevant of performance of plane I'm flying.
Runway behind you is useless! As is altitude above you, and fuel not in your tanks!
Thank you for posting these. I think they are lifesaving!
Excellent videos as always Paul, I coukd binge watch these. Easily the best GA advice, no holds barred practical life saving advice. Please Avweb - keep giving us more of these!!
Why would people down vote this outstanding video?
Continental Motors employees
@@esathegreat 😂😂
Hahaha.....i was thinking same
Hey Nick, stop watching video's and review the 2021 M4! :D
Well, it got exactly 69 downvotes by now, so how about that for a reason?
click bait title!!! omg: this guy blends serious life and death dealing advice with some necessary humor. top notch aviation celebrity.
Paul - this may be one of your most important videos yet. Absolutely terrific advice. You get us thinking. Don
I love your delivery. This was EXCELLENT. Thank you very much.
I love these videos. As a new pilot, I learn a lot from them that was just glanced over (if covered at all) during instruction. Please keep the good content coming...it’s keeping pilots & passengers alive!
I hope that his teaching saves my life one day! Thank you Paul for making such detailed videos!
Great educational videos, and reminders. Thanks AVweb.
This is one of the best of your videos, Paul.
Extremely informative and useful videos Paul, appreciate all your efforts and hard work.
Very good analysis and advice. I am not a pilot, but I am a driver and to this day I use a decision technique my instructor taught me in my youth. When approaching green signal light, I say to myself this mantra, "I have to stop, I have to stop..." until I reach a point of no return. Then I drone "I have to go, I have to go..." Your advice to tell yourself the engine is going to stop and be prepared sounded very familiar to me.
Paul, this is great yet again, you are by far the best reporter in aviation. Always learn something, with a little humor to boot. thanks
Love your videos, Paul. Thanks 🙏🏻
In 1982 I almost crashed because I didn't use the whole runway in Saratoga, Wyoming. I had plenty of runway to get off the ground after an intersection takeoff. However, I encountered turbulence just past the end of the runway that I believe was due to the wind passing over some very small hillocks. For a short while it was all I could do to keep the plane in the air. I learned a valuable lesson that day!
Absolute Gold here Paul. Thank you
This channel started popping up in my recommendations thanks to all the Microsoft Flight Simulator videos people are releasing now. Love it!
Thanks Paul - wonderful 'takeaways' from all your videos and they are part of my weekly objective to learn/study something aviation wise every singel week of the year
That was one of the best yet, very timely and useful.
I love your commo sense approach.!
As always, good analysis and good advice. Thanks for this, Paul!
Great video! Your old flying buddy was a great guest.
We are fortunate that we have people like you that are willing to give of their time and effort to dig into these issues and make them known and what to do. Valuable info to be sure. Another example of how the world is a better place because you are in it. Thanks!
Another great video from Paul. Thank you.
I really enjoy the way you talk about the situation and build the scenario laying out the facts.
This is really well done. Thanks Paul! (And also for the laughs at the start!)
As always a great well informing video, thanks Paul!
Amazing guy. I love his soh & delivery, but his advice is right on the button. Well done Paul!
Real Talk with Paul. This too is fantastic
It blows my mind that a jury would award 9 million over mags when they tested good and there were plenty of other reasons given for the stoppage of engine power and even with engine stoppage the pilot still had ways out including belly landing back on the runway. Lawyers are the reason we can't have fun these days.
jury punishing insurance company for sake of mourning family... perfect crime maybe?
That would come down to jury selection and ensuring that as defense counsel you did the absolute best to educate the jury in simple terms and to stick to three main points.
@@dpratt2000 And higher insurance payouts just means higher insurance premiums for everyone else. The insurance company doesn't loose money.
I hope the insurance appealed that ruling.
Thank you Mr. Bertorelli
Another informative and very well done analysis. thank you Paul.
Very good lesson
Keep pounding it into us !!
Thanks
Thanks Paul, an excellent refresher!
Paul thanks so much for your ongoing research, well-presented findings and common sense reminders which I appreciate and may even use one day!
Always well-explained. Thank you.
I started on the line and worked my way up to the SC Aeronautics Commission. Many made idiotic mistakes and lived and many that didn't get a 2nd chance. Some more memorable ones are numerous planes that were just chocked or maybe just the wings and a linemen secured the plane properly only to "jump" a chock or get run it up and realize the tail was tie down. A citation taxied out with the towbar still attached to the nose wheel. Take off and come back and whisper "I need some gas." One guyed "borrowed" a 24v battery cart for helis and hooked it up to his 12v system. IIRC a Moonie and a $10 grand bill. Numerous prop starts running away. "Smilies" getting sucked into the engine. Ouch $$. A foreign student sat for 15 minutes trying to contact someone on his radio. I walked out and stuck my head in the 172 and saw he was trying to talk to ATIS. Someone had a really bad breakfast and threw his underwear out of a Bonanza. They wrapped around the leading edge of the tail and taxied in that way. Passengers snapping off static wicks. Had a passenger in a 402b discharge a fire bottle in flight covering the back of the plane in white powder. I've seen seat fall off the rail on rotation. Another 402/404? pilot crew window flew open. When he tried to pull it down, the plane hit a pothole in the sky and yanked his arm out of socket. I literally could go on forever. KCAE/KCUB
Excellent video Paul.
Excellent advice as always
Thank you for posting, reminding us all of what's important!!
I love smart people making smart training videos. Thanks!
Paul, a very professional explained and helpful video with the right motivational side comments! Thanks a lot!
Another REALLY good video. Thanks Paul!
One of the best videos you could ever watch regarding takeoffs. It is packed full of great practical information that should be used by every GA pilot preparing for takeoff. Follow this advice and you will be prepared for an engine failure and have a plan.
Always worth watching! Thank you!
Great work Paul!
Paul, thanks for your insightful and informative videos. Many years ago a well-experienced and wise (I thought) instructor told me 85% of all piston engine failures occur during a power change. He then said, "Jim, when you're taking off, Don't reduce the throttle (power) until you're ready for the engine to quit. The added benefit of this mantra was that every takeoff I was poised for the/an engine to quit.
Excellent Paul - well done!
Learning so much from all your videos! Thank you 🙏
Another great, & very useful video, Paul! Thanks, & keep up the great work!
Cheers for another great video - I'm not lucky enough to be flying for fun, but I really enjoy your no-nonsense analysis.
Great, Mr Paul Bertorelli, great!
This is great video excellent job of showing how important pushing is during a engine failure.
Thanks for the GREAT reminders.
10/10 intro. Great video as always Paul!
The AVweb jingle means a good episode is coming!!
Great video. Just found your channel the other day and watched a few of your outstanding videos. Can't wait to see more. Many thanks.
Hi ,many thanks for excellent videos. Always both entertaining and immeasurably informative.
I love videos like this one...some of the few times one can be a better pilot without flight time, instruction or ground school. Thanks for posting!
Haha @ Probably didn’t inhale! Great info! All pilots need to constantly review these mishaps to prevent becoming a statistic. Classic case of the Swiss Cheese model. Love your channel and website.
As a student pilot, I absolutely love these videos. Thanks and keep up the great work!
Thank you Mr.
Bertorelli for all you that you teach us in your videos. I have lapses in my flying that sometimes extend for months. When I can't fly (work, family, etc.), I spend every minute, that I would otherwise be using to fly, watching your videos and others like them. The "other guy" on UA-cam always exclaims, "a good pilot is always learning". I think that makes perfect sense. Would love to fly with you if you ever visit Lantana airport (KLNA).
Well said Paul. ." Lite in the seat" is another sound of silence reaction. Gravity is your only remaining power source so head for "mother earth".
Another great video. Thank you
Another top dollar Paul B video. Thank you
Well presented ! And another great topic 👍🇨🇦
Wow- what a wonderful way this guy has with analysis and explanation - plus he couples it with outstanding suggestions on how to avoid becoming the next stall/spin statistic. It's amazing to me the many ways that a crash can occur. Planning is key, and of course the ever-popular pre-flight check of the aircraft including sump testing for water in the fuel.
Thanks for the no-nonsense advice!