TRACKER BOAT TRANSOM OUTER SKIN REPAIR PART 2

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  • @christhomas1465
    @christhomas1465 6 місяців тому

    I just wanted to say thank you for this video series. It helped me immensely fixing my 99 Starcraft that had corrosion and pin holes. Like you, I'm pretty handy with this kind of thing, but seeing it done by someone as talented as you are was very helpful. I also wanted to say that the Gflex epoxy is amazing stuff! I could not believe how well this thing glued together and how insanely tough that epoxy is. I still have to reskim a couple of holes that the glue oozed out to much, but I have complete confidence that this transom will be incredibly strong and water tight once complete. Thank you!

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  6 місяців тому

      That’s awesome I appreciate the kind words. Thank you for watching and commenting

  • @fishin-impossible2992
    @fishin-impossible2992 3 роки тому +2

    Dang you got some talent.. Man id like a 1st hand look at this build. Thanks for sharing Jeff

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому +1

      I appreciate that. It’s been slow up to this point, only working on it a hour here and a hour there. But it’s about to be kicked in high gear. Springs coming lol.

    • @RiverRat-2112
      @RiverRat-2112 3 роки тому

      @@bowl830 I saw Robins in my yard today up here in WV, spring is coming! We know it is here when the Buzzards show back up. --no kidding

  • @danielyoung7175
    @danielyoung7175 3 роки тому

    Best aluminum boat transom repair vid on UA-cam .

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому

      Thank you I truly appreciate you watching and commenting

  • @wc164
    @wc164 3 роки тому +1

    This video was very helpful for me.I have the same boat with the same problem and was thinking of how to repair it when your video popped up.Great job

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you. This boat was a mess lol but it’s going to be amazing when finished I hope. Good luck with your project

  • @moliendagonzalez2503
    @moliendagonzalez2503 3 роки тому +1

    Gracias , gran talento el de usted. tengo un bote de aluminio duracraft 15 ft y me motive a arreglar su "transom" con este video , muchas gracias! un saludo desde Puerto rico!

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому

      Thank you for watching and commenting gracias

  • @redouanepeche
    @redouanepeche 3 роки тому

    God willing, may God bless you

  • @CatfishandCrappie
    @CatfishandCrappie 3 роки тому

    Good stuff Jeff! I am fully invested in this build now ;) Happy Fishing!

  • @seanbowes5952
    @seanbowes5952 3 роки тому

    Thanks for posting! You sure did a nice job!

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому

      Thank you sir I appreciate you watching and commenting

  • @billtaylor531
    @billtaylor531 3 роки тому

    In your comments you said you used 1/16 on the inside and 1/8 on the outside however in you 2nd video you stated that the piece on the outside is 3/16.
    Just checking if you added in total 3/16 or 3/16 as the back piece
    Your a talented and patient man
    Thanks Bull

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому

      I added 3/16th to the back. Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate you watching and commenting

  • @timhalcomb4041
    @timhalcomb4041 3 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing have a blessed day in the name of Jesus

  • @crappiequade4238
    @crappiequade4238 2 місяці тому

    Boat looks great what type of paint and corrison product did you paint tjhe transom with???

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  2 місяці тому

      I used a self etching primer after cleaning surface with vinegar and a stainless wire brush. Then used implement paint from tractor supply. Warning, it dries super slow. It takes days to cure. But it’s pretty tough. I also use automotive paint if the weather allows. My other bait was shot with auto paint

  • @chrispeddle6456
    @chrispeddle6456 7 днів тому

    Great vids learning lots. Attempting the same transom repair.
    How much g flex did you use?

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  7 днів тому

      I buy it by the gallon lol. I think it took almost 2 quarts to do all layers

  • @anthonyaviles8665
    @anthonyaviles8665 2 роки тому

    Im doing the same to my boat due to the corrosion i dont have it as bad as you do with all the pin holes just where the back had a piece of wood to make up the thickness of the motor

  • @unsaltedlife5998
    @unsaltedlife5998 3 роки тому

    Very well done sir.

  • @georgiafisherman5050
    @georgiafisherman5050 3 роки тому

    Interesting video.

  • @AN-kg4ei
    @AN-kg4ei Рік тому

    apologies if missed but what gauge ALU did you use?? 16?? Great video and thanks for sharing! 👍

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  Рік тому +1

      Yes sir. 16 on the outside skin and 20 on the inner skin of transom.

  • @alexbell9196
    @alexbell9196 Рік тому

    hello jeff that looks great. i know im a couple years late but i just found your video. i have a 16 ft boat that the back 4 feet of floor looks just like your transom did. ive been contemplating how to fix it and make it useable. i was considering laminating a new floor skin with 5200 but this looks even better. how has it held up and would you still recommend the product?

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  Рік тому +1

      I’ve used this product on several boats over the years. My main boat is the 21’ Starcraft. I replaced the transom skin using it. It’s been 8 years with no issues.

    • @alexbell9196
      @alexbell9196 Рік тому

      @@bowl830 wow thats great. thank you for the information. i think ill try to repair the floor of my boat with it. maybe in combination of some type of slick coating epoxy for the underside.

  • @jayrorichardson7577
    @jayrorichardson7577 3 роки тому +1

    I'm having to do the same thing on my deep v 17 I bought what thickness of aluminum did you use for your skins?

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому +2

      The inner piece is 1/16. I used 1/8” on the outside.

  • @moosenbeans903
    @moosenbeans903 Рік тому

    I am thinking of switching a few of them freeway signs telling you the fast food places and using them. 🤔 ahah 😂 no really. I thought there was no wood in the transom. Damnit I just bought a 94 17 pro v now I got to check it

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  Рік тому

      I’ve used freeway signs before. Not joking. I made some planner boards out of them lol 😂

  • @mvanek
    @mvanek 3 місяці тому

    Sorry if I’m late to the party here, what type of epoxy did you use to bind the skin to the transom? I’m about to do the same for my aluminum boat and struggling to figure out the best type of 2 part epoxy

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 місяці тому

      I’ve had great results with G-flex.

    • @mvanek
      @mvanek 3 місяці тому

      @@bowl830 I ordered GFlex 650 thinking it was 655, I'm going to mix a bit and see if it'll work for the vertical application. If not i see there is 406 colloidal silica i can add to thicken a bit. I'm currently doing the same skin job to my 18' springbok but i'm only adding an outer skin. I hope its adequate. Thank you so much for these videos, without your visual assistance i would have had no idea where to start!

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 місяці тому

      @@mvanek awesome. Glad I could help

  • @anthonyaviles8665
    @anthonyaviles8665 Рік тому +1

    What did you use to clean the aluminum before you put epoxy down

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  Рік тому

      I used vinegar to clean and etch then sanded it with 80grit to get a good surface for the epoxy to bond to. Before I epoxy I clean it with denatured alcohol

    • @anthonyaviles8665
      @anthonyaviles8665 Рік тому

      How straight was your transom mine isnt perfectly straigght

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  Рік тому

      @@anthonyaviles8665 mine is perfectly straight

    • @anthonyaviles8665
      @anthonyaviles8665 Рік тому +1

      Im going to straighten is as best ad i can

    • @anthonyaviles8665
      @anthonyaviles8665 Рік тому

      Yeah i will see what i can do the places where it had the wood piece on the back they over tightened the bolts and etc and the side bolts also pulled it in a little

  • @ricardoesquivel5650
    @ricardoesquivel5650 2 місяці тому

    Can you put mushroom on the inside and use the air hammer the flatten the outside?

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  2 місяці тому

      I wouldn’t. You want the most surface area on the outside

  • @michaeladler2657
    @michaeladler2657 3 роки тому

    My son & I recently bout an old 1987 Blue Fin Fish & Ski 17' great boat, except for that damn corrosion, Plywood transom was wet, rotting, Inner Transom Aluminum
    skin is shot huge corrosion holes, I can make new skin for the inner it's flat. but the AFT skin I can't make cause i can't bend it for the radius cause I have no (brake) bender machine. that said, AFT transom skin is at .090" original thickness it has some flaking corrosion now but after I blast it with garnet, I am confident I will have strong good remaining thickness. then I will rough up the surface, Alodine 1200 (acid etch) Fill the dips and pits from the corrosion in with Marine Tex (3M) use a good Zinc Chromate primer
    Enamel paint. we got marine plywood and will use west 105 epoxy to coat the new wood transom so that it can't rot away again. If after I garnet blast with a spot blaster
    and i feel remaining thickness is too thin then
    I will 100% sandwich the AFT skin just as you did it... Great info your putting out I never would have thought of doing that, look like a great repair.

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому

      Awesome. Sounds like a man with a plan. I bet it will be better than new. Again thanks for watching

  • @Bobbybbops
    @Bobbybbops Рік тому

    Do you have a video of your transom build?

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  Рік тому

      Yes sir it’s on the page

  • @LucasTucas94
    @LucasTucas94 2 роки тому

    Awesome video, exactly what I was looking for, I found your channel through a comment you made in a starcraft group on Facebook. I am going to be doing the same thing on my 1967 starcraft holiday 18'. Going to be using 1/4" for the outside skin and probably 1/16 for the inside. I plan on putting a larger engine than what the boat is technically rated for (86 Johnson 150).
    Your video on installing solid rivets was very helpful as well. The only question that comes to mind now is wont the backside of the rivets installed to sandwich the pieces together interfere with the new transom wood? TIA

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  2 роки тому +1

      The tail after being bucked over is less than a 1/8”. It shouldn’t be a issue.
      Than you for watching I appreciate it.

  • @jgiajnorio
    @jgiajnorio 3 роки тому

    Hey Jeff, where do you recommend getting the bucking dies for the air hammer? Thanks for another great video. Keep up the detail

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому

      Most your air tool suppliers can get them. I got mine from a place in Charlotte. I buy them in bulk when I can find them lol I had thought about putting together kits with a rivet assortment and the tools.

  • @logan2244
    @logan2244 2 роки тому

    I'm going to do this same process. The drain plug on my starcraft is off center and not at lowest point and has old epoxy around it. What would be best method to remove old and install new drain plug hole?

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  2 роки тому

      I left mine in the location it was. It won’t hurt to have a little water in the bilge under most conditions. I try to always keep holes away from edges and seams. I would go back with a aluminum one and use a quality epoxy or sealer. They make a after one made from plastic as well. It looks like a through hull fitting with a rubber gasket

  • @johnstratton6629
    @johnstratton6629 2 роки тому

    What was the total of Epoxy do you use for the whole job? Awesome work and very good directions thanks John

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  2 роки тому

      I used most of a 2 quart kit. I appreciate you commenting and watching. Good luck with your project

  • @terryroberts6934
    @terryroberts6934 2 роки тому

    I have an 1860 aluminum flat bottom and the bottom looks like Swiss cheese. I am planning on replacing the entire hull. The boat is super thin 1/16 I believe. I was going to use 3/16 5052 for the hull but is that overkill or will 1/8 be plenty good? Thank you in advance.

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  2 роки тому +2

      If it’s a river boat where your running shallow the thicker would be nice. But normal use 1/8” is good.

    • @terryroberts6934
      @terryroberts6934 2 роки тому +1

      @@bowl830 Thank you

  • @anthonyaviles8665
    @anthonyaviles8665 Рік тому

    I just did it today to my sylvan 17 foot back troller

    • @anthonyaviles8665
      @anthonyaviles8665 Рік тому

      It it alot of fun that epoxy hold nice

    • @anthonyaviles8665
      @anthonyaviles8665 Рік тому

      Im on hr 7 of it being clamped waiting to pull it off i had a good amount or oozing everywhere all around and in between waiting for it to be all to be hardened

    • @anthonyaviles8665
      @anthonyaviles8665 Рік тому

      I went a little over board with the amount i out on both pieces but i sandwiched it together and it oozed all over the place i cleaned it as good as i could will have to do some sanding to level it all 😊

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  Рік тому

      Awesome. At least you know it’s got good contact with no voids or sir pockets. I’d rather sand some then have holes. Great job.

    • @anthonyaviles8665
      @anthonyaviles8665 Рік тому +1

      Im going to spend all day tomorrow cleaning it and getting ready for painting it all

  • @joshr585
    @joshr585 2 роки тому

    I’m working a boat refurbishment and need to do something like this BUT I have rivets on the rear of my boat all long the edge. It looks like you’re working a smooth edge. How would you modify the process? Just make it fit the smaller section?

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  2 роки тому

      This one has rivets also. That doesn’t affect the epoxy that much. The heads of mine only were 1/16” high. But yes you could cut it to just fit the inside of the river footprint. I appreciate you watching and taking time to comment

    • @joshr585
      @joshr585 2 роки тому

      @@bowl830 no problem and thanks for the quick reply.
      So this one had rivets along the edge and you just placed the sheets (internal and external) over the rivet head and tail and accepted the gap along the edge that would create?
      Because when I look at the seam at the bottom of the boat before you add the external sheet it looks completely flat. Just want to make sure I’m not gonna do something that messes up my great grandfathers boat.
      Or is it best like I said to just cut a smaller section to fit within those existing rivets? Thanks again.

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  2 роки тому

      Mine had some pitting in the rivets around the perimeter so I just went over them.if my outer rivets were in good shape I would have went just inside them with the new skin.

    • @joshr585
      @joshr585 2 роки тому

      @@bowl830 just thought I’d let you know it went well. I have both skins epoxied in and the second one is currently clamped/screwed in and they’re both curing. Cold here so I’m giving it a full 48 hours with a heater directly on them.
      This looks so good and much much better than what was there when I started. Such bad corrosion. This will get my great grandfathers boat back on the water for me and my children and hopefully there’s as well.

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  2 роки тому

      Awesome.

  • @TMC-pc5qx
    @TMC-pc5qx Рік тому

    Hello, Do you have a model/part number for that air rivet gun? Thanks!

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  10 місяців тому

      That gun is just a harbor freight brand. Get the variable speed and it will work fine

  • @mikedrury1317
    @mikedrury1317 3 роки тому

    Is there a purpose for the angle aluminum that sits under the transom wood? My aluminum angle is eaten up and I’m thinking of removing it and making transom wood a little taller. I appreciate your input.

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому

      It acts like a bottom support and a side to side stiffener. If it’s real bad you can buy 2” Z CHANNEL and just cut a new one. I would do that rather than not use one.

    • @mikedrury1317
      @mikedrury1317 3 роки тому

      @@bowl830 cool. I really appreciate all the help you’ve given me on my boat build. Sometimes it gets very overwhelming, so it’s nice to receive input. God bless.

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому

      Yes sir. Thank you. That’s why I do the videos. I’ve been there. I’ve stared at something for two days before 😂

  • @bryanjones7347
    @bryanjones7347 3 роки тому

    What epoxy did you use for the aluminum? Your link is broken in the description and I am doing the same thing now.

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому

      Sorry about that. I fixed it. Thanks for watching good luck.

  • @mikedrury1317
    @mikedrury1317 3 роки тому

    What brand and color paint did you use? Do you plan to repaint entire boat?

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому +2

      I’m on the fence about repainting whole boat. I use commercial grade automotive paint with a good epoxy etching primer first. My other boat was painted 6 years ago and the paint held up great.

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому +1

      I used farm implement paint on the outer transom of this one just to see how it did. It dried slick as glass. Not sure how it will hold up. I used the type in spray cans from Tractor Supply. I’m just curious lol

  • @RiverRat-2112
    @RiverRat-2112 3 роки тому

    I am messing with an old Sylvan that for some reason has 38 drilled holes in the transom skin, I was just going to skin the inside and fill the outside with brazing. Other than "more is better", is there a particular reason you skinned both sides?

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому +1

      Just to get a good fresh factory look. And I’m a more is better type person.

    • @RiverRat-2112
      @RiverRat-2112 3 роки тому

      @@bowl830 That works for me. lol

  • @clintonking1841
    @clintonking1841 2 роки тому

    Do you take any jobs? I’d like to have this done on my boat but don’t have the time. I’m in the Carolinas as well.

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  2 роки тому

      I’m sorry I don’t. My real job keeps me tied up. I’m booked through 2023 not joking. I appreciate you watching and commenting thank you

  • @fabriceange9428
    @fabriceange9428 Рік тому

    Hi
    Where can i buy the airgun please ?

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  Рік тому

      I got that one at harbor freight

  • @staranchor
    @staranchor 3 роки тому

    Where do you buy your solid rivets. Thanks

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому

      I buy in bulk when I find them. I get mine from a supplier in Charlotte nc. I’m trying to get them to offer a kit that has a assortment of rivets and the tool to install them. And offer them for sale

  • @anthonyaviles8665
    @anthonyaviles8665 2 роки тому

    What did you sand the aluminum with

    • @anthonyaviles8665
      @anthonyaviles8665 2 роки тому

      What grit sandpaper

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  2 роки тому

      I used 80 grit to get a good cut so the epoxy had something to bond to.

  • @justinmorrall5958
    @justinmorrall5958 3 роки тому

    So the little space between the new wood and the transom that is created by the bucking rivets is a good thing and is okay to have?
    I will be doing the exact same thing that you did to this boat with my personal so I am trying to study up.

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому +1

      It’s so small it won’t make a difference really but if it leaves a gap it will be fine. It’s less than a 1/8” it will allow it to dry out at worst

    • @justinmorrall5958
      @justinmorrall5958 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks, I appreciate the reply!

  • @philmcafee343
    @philmcafee343 Рік тому

    Is this typically caused by electrolysis?

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  Рік тому +1

      It can be for sure. I try to never use the hull as a common ground. I use dedicated grounds to everything directly to the battery.

    • @philmcafee343
      @philmcafee343 Рік тому

      I have a Lowe sea nymph with the same type corrosion

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  Рік тому

      The tracker was more of a chemical reaction I believe.

    • @anthonyaviles8665
      @anthonyaviles8665 Рік тому

      I had that i bought a boat and it had the ground straight to the boat not seperate and caused the corrosion im dealing whrh now

  • @philldownes8685
    @philldownes8685 3 роки тому

    and this is why a riveted boat is crap. you need sealant in every single rivet or they will let go and leak over time. nothing to stop them leaking especially if done like this as there is not anywhere near enough pressure being put on the back side to make them a proper tight fit.. only good way to do a rivet like this is hydraulic pressure on both sides of the rivets, but still needs asealant in between or will let in water and rot away.. if doing rivets like this atleast do them before the epoxy goes off, then there is a chance to get a bondaround then and maybe squeeze a bit of epoxy out of the rivet holes would be good.... he done a great job , but no way would i have put any rivets back in and weaken a great job .

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  3 роки тому +4

      Respectfully. They don’t put sealer on rivets from the factory. Secondly a Sealer will actually prevent a good seal and weaken the rivet. As for hydraulic squeezer. A impact hammer provides just as much or more force, Just a slower process. Rarely are squeezers used to make repairs even in the aeronautical industry
      3 rd. The weight on the inside doesn’t have to be heavy, these are aluminum rivets I could have got by with far less.
      The most important thing you were wrong on is riveted boats being crap. There are millions of 40-50 year old riveted boats around. Why! Because they are actually superior to a welded boat. Rivets flex and move where a weld won’t. There’s a reason airplanes are mostly riveted.
      But I do appreciate you watching and commenting thank you.

  • @kentyler966
    @kentyler966 3 роки тому

    Purddie, purddie.

    • @hookedupcatfishingadventur9884
      @hookedupcatfishingadventur9884 2 роки тому

      Hey jeff, u mentioned about fixing the small spot in your haul, I cant find any videos of this. Could u point me in the right direction of this job. Thanks. Great job

  • @Mr.Fabrication007
    @Mr.Fabrication007 2 роки тому

    I've done lots of solid riveting but didnt understand your comment about creating an "interior gap to allow water wicking" ???WT.....I've redone transoms too. Why would you "design" a hollow transom to take in and hold water? When you say "wicking" that is a real boat builders worst nightmare. The idea is to keep water out. Just fill, clamp, and seal the entire assembly incuding the top edge where water would enter. Not to be rude but your application and use of epoxy was poorly planned, not prepped or clamped properly. After the video cut, you return with a clamped bar (or level?) obviously realizing later that individual clamps on glue backed aluminum skin is creating uneven clamping pressure dents. I feel if people are making "instructional" videos they should be doing it the right way. Epoxy is two-part and VERY time sensitive depending on formulation. Setting up drip masking and looking for clamp bars AFTER its been mixed and applied is not ideal. Likely a very poor bond in there with such light, and late clamping, screws, then rivets. Overmanipulation of the sheet and material recieving the screws and rivets. In my opinion. Next time use a bunch of long reach clamps with boards to evenly distribute the bonding pressure, attempt to eliminate water entrapping voids and cavities within.
    Where I live many people ocean fish with increased hull pressures and splash exposure from rough water. A strong transom is the backbone of a safe seaworthy boat. And where does your "wicked transom water" exit??? Did you install a second drain bung tapped into the inside of you r transom? The time spent making your video could (should) have been put into clamping it up properly and preparing for wet epoxy, before dealing with wet eopoxy. Has always been rule #1 in two-part application 101. But good job otherwise.

    • @bowl830
      @bowl830  2 роки тому +1

      Well thanks for your long comment. I appreciate the feedback. You misinterpreted what I was talking about. No the transom does not wick water and is in fact is 100% waterproof and solid. I was talking about the fact that the backside rivets do protrude out causing a 1/8” void for people to not be concerned over that fact cause If anything it allows air and any water that gets between the skin and transom to wick out. You can seal the top all you want but moisture will get in on aluminum boats. Fiberglass is a different situation. Yes you can use bar clamps and while it was curing I had several in place. But the clamping force of a screw is well over 200# of force. So it’s plenty to squeeze the layers to get a permanent bond. The cure time of the Epoxy I was using is 45minutes at the temperature it was applied so I had plenty of time. The most important part is prep.
      Again I do appreciate the feedback. Next time I will try to be more inclusive on the smaller details. You got a sharp eye. Thanks for taking time to watch and comment