This is like these really bad white rappers making diss tracks aimed at each other. Just somehow even more homophobic, ableist, and misogynistic... These preachers are so bad, so over the top, I can't even be angry. It's honestly fascinating in a way. And it's good that they drive their congregation away. What kind of people want to sit there and listen to two pastors just hating and screaming at each other? How is that winning anyone (but the worst kinds of people)? How is that serving god?
@@Addie-j6f No, because they advocate for dehumanization of marginalized groups such as the LGBTQ+ . Judging by your comment there, you seem to be just as inconsiderate and worthless as the hate preachers this video is about. Get lost, get over yourself, grow a spine, and show some fucking compassion. This is likely the only life you get, so if you want your memory to live on and endure forever, work to improve the world. But you won't, because that would just be too much work for you. Fucking pathetic.
I was a teen in the late 70's and early 80's and we attended an IFB church that was pastored by a graduate of Jack Hyles' school. He was an awful human just like Jack Hyles. My oldest brother went on to graduate from Hyles' school and pastor a church too. My brother is now catholic. I fell away from church for several years because of the abusive nature of the IFB. When I got married I started to attend an ELCA lutheran church that was very liberal. Eventually I came to the conclusion that all of it was mythology with very little grounded in truth. I have been an atheist for about 12 years.
@@GodlessGranny Me too. I'm just a little sad that my entire family is still all in. The catholic part is in a sedevacantist sect called the SSPX very cult like. They all live in the small town of St. Marys Kansas which is pretty much controlled by the sect. Very isolationist.
3:40 One might conclude that they also hate Jesus and the Gospels. "The [preacher] stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people-robbers, evildoers, adulterers-or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’" 19:10 "And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?"
@@Addie-j6f And no, the hatred is deserved, when you lot use the Bible to justify your hatred for the LGBTQ+, equal rights movements, etc. Like, honestly. What in THE FUCK is *YOUR* problem?! If anyone is deserving of hellfire, it's hateful dickbags like you. But I don't believe in Heaven or Hell, God or Satan, etc. So shut up, and act your fucking age. The world we live in today is far different from what it was like back then. You're a moron for refusing to accept that. An incredibly dense spoon, as some would say.
A few minutes into the video "Let's have a laugh." Me : "Wow, Granny, savage much? o.O" Ten minutes later, laughing out in the grocery store, "Wow, Granny, Savage!
I find it difficult to understand why anyone would wish to listen to such angry people . I'd rather walk the dogs or spend time in the garden . I rather like Groucho Marx " I would not wish to be a member of any organisation that would be willing to have me as a member ."
Some good points. Soulwinning is OBVIOUSLY making them better people. They're so loving and kind-hearted, it's practically oozing out of every orifice.
This type of infighting is common in the IFB churches. It’s one of the reasons I am not IFB anymore. Ultimately it’s about power and control and how many churches and pastors you have influence over.
Some Christians don't understand that, the differences in how different churches preach, is often contradictory with each other. Which doctrine do you go with ?
Preferably one that won't be derogatory towards certain people, but really, no religious doctrine is worth any of the paper it's printed on. Not a single word of any of it.
I find Shelley to be the worst one as far as misogyny goes. I don’t use the word misogyny lightly either. I’m a believer and I would find myself to be the most equally yoked with Baptists as far as theology goes like I love the King James Bible and eternal security. However when I was in the group online not knowing what they were about really I was really not liked because I didn’t “stay in my place” I also didn’t see a problem with women talking to men in a non flirty way but rather about scripture. That intimidated these guys too much
Wow-that preacher was asking for evidence about something? How come he won’t just “believe” the person and just have faith? He’s acting like us atheists, asking for evidence, etc.
Why have they got in for the gays? I don't understand. I know it's clobbered in the bible, but no-one's ever managed to stop it, and telling people they can't have enjoyable sex just leads to unhappiness. It's bizarre.
They have been taught to hate sex and sexuality, which gives them severe self-esteem issues and keeps them at same mental state as when they were 13 years olds: they don’t have sexual identity, they are still at state where they should find out who they are. Thus everything which falls out of "normal" sexual behavior is scary for them.
Good tea, not the tea from the mia mulder video XD, but good tea. I hop yall had a good pumpkin season. Including punplins actually are good in near everything. Pumpkin stew , chilli and co are. great. and pupkin shcnitzel with a bit fishy paste That like rap feuds without any rules.
The IFB is running scared and so the blood's in the water. It would be a great day when these Hate preachers NO LONGER have a platform. They're all like all the bullies on the playground now playing victim because one top dog has now commandeered the whole movement. Pot/kettle/skillet/griddle...
He isn't talking about the new ifb as a whole he's talking about the few friends in the church, I did not grow up in the church and I attend somewhat regularly and I still go to movies and do normal things and see some of the weird things as weird so I'm not blindly disagreeing with you I'm just disagreeing because you're wrong. Nobody in my church prays for anybody to die
I disagree withe the notion that we should fix our own problems. Even without gods, we are still not alone. We have other people in our lives that we can turn to to help us in our journeys. I also disagree with the assumption that Steven Anderson gets his idea of what people in China are like from Disney movies (Assuming that I may be pedantic here, "Kung Fu Panda" was created by Dream Works. I have a pet peeve with the assumption that the only American corporation to produce animated features is Disney). Being the spiteful, bigoted, fear-monger, conspiratorial, monster that he is, he's not going to watch movies and television shows made by "Jew-ly-wood."--at least one pastor of the NIFB (It was in a video that Suris covered, titled "God Hates Video Games," featuring Brother Sean Harrington). Instead, I think that the nearly equally spiteful, bigoted, fear-mongering, conspiratorial monster, and podcast host, Steven Crowder, is more his speed. I have seen a clip of Crowder dressed up as a horrible stereotype of a Chinese person, that fits Steven Anderson's depiction quite well.
No matter how much others help you, you can’t be helped as long as you don’t want to change and put effort to changing. Even in therapy psychiatrists are more like coaches or advisers, they help patients to "get oriented" and avoid "pit falls", but patients have to do hard work.
This is like these really bad white rappers making diss tracks aimed at each other. Just somehow even more homophobic, ableist, and misogynistic...
These preachers are so bad, so over the top, I can't even be angry. It's honestly fascinating in a way. And it's good that they drive their congregation away. What kind of people want to sit there and listen to two pastors just hating and screaming at each other? How is that winning anyone (but the worst kinds of people)? How is that serving god?
It’s shocking that a denomination founded in hatred devolves into name calling and backstabbing.
You do this kind of show so well, keep them coming , I enjoy the content so much!
Sending a virtual hug your way for having to endure all these hate preachers for so long 💜
@@GodlessGranny You choose to suffer to save others from suffering. Kudos!
You seriously think that they're hate preachers? Why because you hate them because they disagree with you?
@@Addie-j6f No, because they advocate for dehumanization of marginalized groups such as the LGBTQ+ .
Judging by your comment there, you seem to be just as inconsiderate and worthless as the hate preachers this video is about.
Get lost, get over yourself, grow a spine, and show some fucking compassion.
This is likely the only life you get, so if you want your memory to live on and endure forever, work to improve the world.
But you won't, because that would just be too much work for you.
Fucking pathetic.
Steve can't stand behind the pulpit for 30 seconds straight
I was a teen in the late 70's and early 80's and we attended an IFB church that was pastored by a graduate of Jack Hyles' school. He was an awful human just like Jack Hyles. My oldest brother went on to graduate from Hyles' school and pastor a church too. My brother is now catholic. I fell away from church for several years because of the abusive nature of the IFB. When I got married I started to attend an ELCA lutheran church that was very liberal. Eventually I came to the conclusion that all of it was mythology with very little grounded in truth. I have been an atheist for about 12 years.
This is interesting. I'm glad you found your way out!
@@GodlessGranny Me too. I'm just a little sad that my entire family is still all in. The catholic part is in a sedevacantist sect called the SSPX very cult like. They all live in the small town of St. Marys Kansas which is pretty much controlled by the sect. Very isolationist.
@@dmckenzie9281 I’m so sorry. Hope they can see reason.
@@GodlessGranny Thanks . I enjoy your channel when I need a dose of reason!
Awesome show and outstanding content fascinating and informative
G.G. Great video! And thankyou for sharing the 'good news'!👍🥰😍✌
3:40 One might conclude that they also hate Jesus and the Gospels.
"The [preacher] stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people-robbers, evildoers, adulterers-or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’"
19:10 "And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?"
Oh, great presentation. As always.
The, "souls," they are winning are no loss to us❗
Wow, without a God, it looks like ANYONE can become a preacher. I thought about it, once, but I'm too persuasive...talked myself out of it.
Grayson Fritz. The man, the myth, the misogyny!
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When your house is full of hate, you will eventually hate everyone in the house.
Then stop hating and delighting in the suffering of Christians
@@Addie-j6f Christians?
Suffering?
That's a good one~ 🤣
@@Addie-j6f And no, the hatred is deserved, when you lot use the Bible to justify your hatred for the LGBTQ+, equal rights movements, etc.
Like, honestly.
What in THE FUCK is *YOUR* problem?!
If anyone is deserving of hellfire, it's hateful dickbags like you.
But I don't believe in Heaven or Hell, God or Satan, etc.
So shut up, and act your fucking age.
The world we live in today is far different from what it was like back then.
You're a moron for refusing to accept that.
An incredibly dense spoon, as some would say.
I've never been happy about people tearing each other apart before, but with the level of hate they all had- I think I'll make this one exception.
Its only a matter of time before they turn against each other.
Evil always eats it's own. That's the takeaway from this. These people are all evil. And they are eating each other.
A few minutes into the video "Let's have a laugh."
Me : "Wow, Granny, savage much? o.O"
Ten minutes later, laughing out in the grocery store, "Wow, Granny, Savage!
I find it difficult to understand why anyone would wish to listen to such angry people . I'd rather walk the dogs or spend time in the garden .
I rather like Groucho Marx " I would not wish to be a member of any organisation that would be willing to have me as a member ."
Some good points. Soulwinning is OBVIOUSLY making them better people. They're so loving and kind-hearted, it's practically oozing out of every orifice.
Thanks to Poe's law, I have to ask: you’re being sarcastic, right?
Oh, so *that* explains why all the doorknobs I've touched have been so sticky-
On second thought, maybe I *don't* wanna know anything about this "Christian Love" I keep hearing about~ 😂
Get ‘em Granny ❤❤❤
This type of infighting is common in the IFB churches. It’s one of the reasons I am not IFB anymore. Ultimately it’s about power and control and how many churches and pastors you have influence over.
Some Christians don't understand that, the differences in how different churches preach, is often contradictory with each other. Which doctrine do you go with ?
Preferably one that won't be derogatory towards certain people, but really, no religious doctrine is worth any of the paper it's printed on.
Not a single word of any of it.
Keep up the good work granny
I find Shelley to be the worst one as far as misogyny goes. I don’t use the word misogyny lightly either. I’m a believer and I would find myself to be the most equally yoked with Baptists as far as theology goes like I love the King James Bible and eternal security. However when I was in the group online not knowing what they were about really I was really not liked because I didn’t “stay in my place” I also didn’t see a problem with women talking to men in a non flirty way but rather about scripture. That intimidated these guys too much
My gosh - Christians fighting against Christians - it's the gift that keeps on giving.
Wow-that preacher was asking for evidence about something? How come he won’t just “believe” the person and just have faith? He’s acting like us atheists, asking for evidence, etc.
Why have they got in for the gays? I don't understand. I know it's clobbered in the bible, but no-one's ever managed to stop it, and telling people they can't have enjoyable sex just leads to unhappiness. It's bizarre.
They have been taught to hate sex and sexuality, which gives them severe self-esteem issues and keeps them at same mental state as when they were 13 years olds: they don’t have sexual identity, they are still at state where they should find out who they are. Thus everything which falls out of "normal" sexual behavior is scary for them.
These videos give me schadenfreude!
Good one GG.
Good tea, not the tea from the mia mulder video XD, but good tea.
I hop yall had a good pumpkin season. Including punplins actually are good in near everything. Pumpkin stew , chilli and co are. great. and pupkin shcnitzel with a bit fishy paste
That like rap feuds without any rules.
What the hell is soul-winning??
And why are all the kids sitting on the stage??
Aren't sermons supposed to be about God
Completely bonkers.
The IFB is running scared and so the blood's in the water. It would be a great day when these Hate preachers NO LONGER have a platform. They're all like all the bullies on the playground now playing victim because one top dog has now commandeered the whole movement. Pot/kettle/skillet/griddle...
He isn't talking about the new ifb as a whole he's talking about the few friends in the church, I did not grow up in the church and I attend somewhat regularly and I still go to movies and do normal things and see some of the weird things as weird so I'm not blindly disagreeing with you I'm just disagreeing because you're wrong. Nobody in my church prays for anybody to die
I disagree withe the notion that we should fix our own problems. Even without gods, we are still not alone. We have other people in our lives that we can turn to to help us in our journeys.
I also disagree with the assumption that Steven Anderson gets his idea of what people in China are like from Disney movies (Assuming that I may be pedantic here, "Kung Fu Panda" was created by Dream Works. I have a pet peeve with the assumption that the only American corporation to produce animated features is Disney). Being the spiteful, bigoted, fear-monger, conspiratorial, monster that he is, he's not going to watch movies and television shows made by "Jew-ly-wood."--at least one pastor of the NIFB (It was in a video that Suris covered, titled "God Hates Video Games," featuring Brother Sean Harrington). Instead, I think that the nearly equally spiteful, bigoted, fear-mongering, conspiratorial monster, and podcast host, Steven Crowder, is more his speed. I have seen a clip of Crowder dressed up as a horrible stereotype of a Chinese person, that fits Steven Anderson's depiction quite well.
No matter how much others help you, you can’t be helped as long as you don’t want to change and put effort to changing. Even in therapy psychiatrists are more like coaches or advisers, they help patients to "get oriented" and avoid "pit falls", but patients have to do hard work.
This is true,@@valivali8104 . Let's call it a team effort.
Awww what a shame
Falling apart? Quite the opposite
You KNOW God isn't real? Then demonstrate it