The folks that say looping is a waste of wire are the same folks probably running wire length by eye and not taking the time to back pull the 3-5ft of extra they ended with. They just snip it thinking "I'll use it for jumpers later." 😅
I appreciate the way you address and handle such a long setback lik 6 weeks. This logic carries over into programming and software development, as well.
Love seeing Julian tag along, always fun meeting more of the team. Also absolutely loved nicks episode on TMC, it’s cool to see how the one day of filming works behind the scenes
As an electrician I have to say all of these fancy complicated lighting control systems are a great way to make something simple very complicated. It also makes future work for us in the future when all this stuff starts to fail (and it will) and we have to come in and replace it. The reality is that most people get over the cool factor pretty quickly and don’t use all the features those systems have.
So true Kevin I've done it myself we had leds put in the kitchen under cabinets absolutely never get used after a couple weeks keeping it simple is so much better
There is a time and place where manual toggle switches will be used. As time goes on energy codes come into play more and a variety of flexibility with lighting controls becomes more required, and it also reduced the hazard of having line voltage wiring everywhere except for switch locations which there would be a ton of if you wanted multiple controls of different fixtures.
I agree, the more complicated the system the less someone will use it. That includes things I have built and use where I stop using things because I wasn't simplicity
This is one of the reasons we use conduits (see the videos on this channel recorded in Switzerland) behind the wall to decouple the process of wiring up from the process of finishing the wall. It's more expensive compared to directly laying out wires. Moving switches would still be not easily possible as you would have to move the conduit. What we do however is laying out enough empty conduits so you can put a wire in it at a later point without rebuilding a wall or a ceiling.
Good luck getting your parts timely. I waited 10 weeks for a certain Lutron hybrid controller. Oh well. Lutron makes the best stuff, so it is worth the wait.
show us this framing against brick. I've got a whole brick walled home to redo and I need these framing and insulation details. Also do you have tuckpointing redone from the interior before framing?
Interesting idea, hiding the switches - would love to get a deeper dive on that control panel. At first glance it looks like you're going to drop in up to 20 RRD-PROs or what have you, but RadioRA2 doesn't have low-voltage signaling, and I don't think RadioRA3 does, either? Was that Julian agreeing with the boss, or is there something else going on here? 😁
The Automation Tech in me says that's a lot of wire and I could make it an extremely small footprint with a simple Programmable Logic Controller and some low voltage toggle switches.
I’m worried about the loop? I use loops as well but the wire needs to be in 1 1/4 from the face of the stud. There needs to be a cable stacker there to keep screws from going into the wire.
Hope we can work together sometimes as you guys do great work. We do many things and one is lighting distribution of lighting. You could save time with DMF lighting. They are Lutron approved with amazing light and fire rated cans that are also plaster in. All available and great product. Need anything feel free to reach out and hope we can help on other projects. We have a partner company that does lutron full line and know what works with what. Thank you. NS Builders
They don't make good fire rated recess lights, architecturally speaking from a lighting designers' point of view. This is the best scenario for time and light quality. Contractors always lean to cheaper fixtures when lighting might be delayed but that is the wrong approach, High Quality recess lighting will make or break your job, wait like these guys are doing. You can rough in the wire, build the firerated boxes to accommodate the recess lights with adjustability for alignment, and install them while waiting for the fixtures. It is so much more important to have great recess lighting than settle for what may be available or the easiest to install. You want to create multiple layers or zones, of lighting to create drama. Your zones can be general recess, art accent recess for some vertical lighting. You want to light the vertical surfaces because that is what you see, you layer with chandeliers, wall sconces, table lamps, accent lighting in coves for arched ceilings, indirect lighting behind trim or crown, bookcases and niches. Have all those on separate dimmer controls so you can adjust and create different scenes, for different moods and different tasks that me be taking place. When you create the views from one space to another you now not focused on what in that room you are in but your are able to see into other room and expand the space you in. Having the Lutron Lighting Control system like they are talking about makes easy control of that. Most lighting systems have "soft" keys that are programmable for the ability to change lighting scenes. Some require a laptop and some do not. You guys do an awesome job of bringing about common sense approach to building practices for the common home owner to be aware of when they are acting as their own contractor or looking for a contractor and walking houses under construction on the weekends.
my electrician uses the same technique . the staples are not driven in all the way and could be pulled out as they pull the wire through an access hole. works well.
The folks that say looping is a waste of wire are the same folks probably running wire length by eye and not taking the time to back pull the 3-5ft of extra they ended with. They just snip it thinking "I'll use it for jumpers later." 😅
I think the service loop is always a good idea. The zig-zag wiring in the stud bays, on the other hand…holy moly, that’s a lot of Romex!
Not to mention it has way more chances of getting hit by a nail or screw.
I appreciate the way you address and handle such a long setback lik 6 weeks. This logic carries over into programming and software development, as well.
Love seeing Julian tag along, always fun meeting more of the team. Also absolutely loved nicks episode on TMC, it’s cool to see how the one day of filming works behind the scenes
As an electrician I have to say all of these fancy complicated lighting control systems are a great way to make something simple very complicated. It also makes future work for us in the future when all this stuff starts to fail (and it will) and we have to come in and replace it. The reality is that most people get over the cool factor pretty quickly and don’t use all the features those systems have.
So true Kevin I've done it myself we had leds put in the kitchen under cabinets absolutely never get used after a couple weeks keeping it simple is so much better
There is a time and place where manual toggle switches will be used. As time goes on energy codes come into play more and a variety of flexibility with lighting controls becomes more required, and it also reduced the hazard of having line voltage wiring everywhere except for switch locations which there would be a ton of if you wanted multiple controls of different fixtures.
I agree, the more complicated the system the less someone will use it. That includes things I have built and use where I stop using things because I wasn't simplicity
This is one of the reasons we use conduits (see the videos on this channel recorded in Switzerland) behind the wall to decouple the process of wiring up from the process of finishing the wall. It's more expensive compared to directly laying out wires. Moving switches would still be not easily possible as you would have to move the conduit. What we do however is laying out enough empty conduits so you can put a wire in it at a later point without rebuilding a wall or a ceiling.
Good luck getting your parts timely. I waited 10 weeks for a certain Lutron hybrid controller. Oh well. Lutron makes the best stuff, so it is worth the wait.
Hello, you have the next episode of this jobsite? Thanks !
show us this framing against brick. I've got a whole brick walled home to redo and I need these framing and insulation details. Also do you have tuckpointing redone from the interior before framing?
Interesting idea, hiding the switches - would love to get a deeper dive on that control panel. At first glance it looks like you're going to drop in up to 20 RRD-PROs or what have you, but RadioRA2 doesn't have low-voltage signaling, and I don't think RadioRA3 does, either? Was that Julian agreeing with the boss, or is there something else going on here? 😁
The Automation Tech in me says that's a lot of wire and I could make it an extremely small footprint with a simple Programmable Logic Controller and some low voltage toggle switches.
11:24. Look at all the targets for the drywallers screws and rotozip tools!
I’m worried about the loop? I use loops as well but the wire needs to be in 1 1/4 from the face of the stud. There needs to be a cable stacker there to keep screws from going into the wire.
Hope we can work together sometimes as you guys do great work. We do many things and one is lighting distribution of lighting. You could save time with DMF lighting. They are Lutron approved with amazing light and fire rated cans that are also plaster in. All available and great product. Need anything feel free to reach out and hope we can help on other projects. We have a partner company that does lutron full line and know what works with what. Thank you. NS Builders
It would be nice to see what you deliver to your customers as the “scan” of the property. How much detail can they see and how do they look at it?
ua-cam.com/video/wl-dQvrgPio/v-deo.html Here it is on a previous project
What if you want to hang a picture and there is a ton of wire zig zagging and the nail is too long
They don't make good fire rated recess lights, architecturally speaking from a lighting designers' point of view. This is the best scenario for time and light quality. Contractors always lean to cheaper fixtures when lighting might be delayed but that is the wrong approach, High Quality recess lighting will make or break your job, wait like these guys are doing. You can rough in the wire, build the firerated boxes to accommodate the recess lights with adjustability for alignment, and install them while waiting for the fixtures. It is so much more important to have great recess lighting than settle for what may be available or the easiest to install. You want to create multiple layers or zones, of lighting to create drama. Your zones can be general recess, art accent recess for some vertical lighting. You want to light the vertical surfaces because that is what you see, you layer with chandeliers, wall sconces, table lamps, accent lighting in coves for arched ceilings, indirect lighting behind trim or crown, bookcases and niches. Have all those on separate dimmer controls so you can adjust and create different scenes, for different moods and different tasks that me be taking place. When you create the views from one space to another you now not focused on what in that room you are in but your are able to see into other room and expand the space you in. Having the Lutron Lighting Control system like they are talking about makes easy control of that. Most lighting systems have "soft" keys that are programmable for the ability to change lighting scenes. Some require a laptop and some do not. You guys do an awesome job of bringing about common sense approach to building practices for the common home owner to be aware of when they are acting as their own contractor or looking for a contractor and walking houses under construction on the weekends.
I don't understand how is you staple the zig zag you would be able to pull more wire without opening that wall as well
My guess is light duty staples that you can rip out when needed.
I was wondering the exact same thing
my electrician uses the same technique . the staples are not driven in all the way and could be pulled out as they pull the wire through an access hole. works well.
Lots of hand movement in this video