Medieval Europe Was Peaceful, Diverse and Wasn't White
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Be prepared! As today we will read together from 5 different articles on Cracked which will debunk myths and tell us the reality about the Middle Ages, Medieval Europe and Knights! BRACE!
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As a medieval european farmer, I can confirm that nothing pissed me more than getting my land raided by Japanese and Korean vikings, while our Indian King and his Sri Lankan allies didn't do much to defend against them.
I see that you decided to not mention how the Zulus and Aztecs rode to your rescue.
I wonder why...
Oh so you play age II everything will be fine just be careful of the cobra car
Mongolian raids
Average eu 4 game
No, you got it all wrong. The narrative they are trying to push is that all groups were mixed. So, there were no Japanese Vikings, all Vikings were mixed, one Viking was a black tranny, the other was a disabled Japanese woman, the third one was a Pakistani gay wizard, the attackers were mixed, the victims were mixed, everyone was mixed, there were Muslims living in Vatican, there were no ethnically homogeneous societies. That is what they are pushing.
Medieval Europe WAS a very diverse land full of many different cultures, it's just that those people were still 99% white. It's interesting how it's only considered diversity if the differing people have different skin colors. You'd be called a racist if you said that Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans are all the same, but for some reason it's perfectly fine to say that Danes, Geats, and Frisians are all the same.
That's what I'm saying. Ironically, they do the same crap to black people when they pull one random black person to represent us all. I have just as much in common with a random white American/Brit as I do a black one. So how does sticking one random black lady as a Viking act as representation for me or any other black person? She's not from my village or my country. Why do they do this crap? How did Europeans embracing their own history end up being equated to being r@cist, and how did tokenism 2.0 become an act worthy of praise? Why is everything today stupid?
In addition, a surprising large number of "native" Europeans have had swarthy skin for thousands of years, due to ancient migrations from the Middle East and North Africa. People with olive complexions were found not just in Iberia and Italy, but in much of France and even in Wales and Ireland. Even the Vikings would have seen a few brown-eyed, slightly olive people in their travels throughout northern Europe.
@@SeasideDetective2 Nah, they had African Queens, don't lie. -Yes, I'm being flippant-
It wasn't 100% white. There were a lot of people from central Asia who'd settle multiple areas of eastern europe, and Spain was occupied by Arabs (who'd I'd contend are white anyways but I digress)
@@SeasideDetective2 Thats still white.
The LoTR cast was *very* diverse-the fellowship alone had hobbits, dwarves, high elves, silvan elves, men, and Maiar. That’s a lot of races. And if you consider the cast outside of the fellowship, you had even more races: trolls, orcs, sentient giant spiders, sentient giant eagles, etc. seems pretty diverse to me…
Never seen it put better. Who needs dark skinned elves (dark elves?) when you got fucking dwarves and hobbits going for the pipe-weed.
If Rings of Power had based major side plots in the southlands with an entirely black cast no one would have batted an eyelid. Indeed it might have added to the respected Tolkien lore. But of course that was too difficult for the clowns that wrote the drivel that was RoP.
And sentient trees.
Same for The Witcher. Ironically, the discrimination against ‘monsters’, elves, and dwarves in the books (which was a major theme of the games as well) got completely neutered in the tv series by having african, asian, and white dwarves, elves and people all living in colour-blind harmony and not explaining where all of them could possibly have come from. The tv series writers appear to be completely oblivious to the fact that discrimination and, yes, racism, were core background themes of the story. Its kind of hard to take discrimination against black and white elves seriously when youve got black and white people united in that discrimination without any explanation.
One of the many things about RoP that really gets me is that out of all the races they made a dwarf black. They live most of their lives underground. If your reasoning for forcing the inclusion of black characters in a fantasy world is because "it should reflect our world" (Why? It is fantasy.) then explain how a race that spends their whole lives with little to no exposure to sunlight ended up with somebody who had dark skin pigmentation instead of pale white like all the creatures we keep finding in the deep sea where no sunlight reaches or the creatures that live their whole lives inside caves. You could have chose almost any other race from the writings of Tolkien but you manage to pick the one where is makes zero sense on their own for them to have dark skin. The only way you could have explained it was to have that character be a descendant of a dwarf and another race with dark skin. You could have even had it make some sort of sense as a political arranged marriage as part of some sort of treaty or alliance. But no, you just did something that made fans mad and then called them racists.
I agree, the middle ages (中世時代) are never used to refer to any historical time in Japan. European middle ages cover the following Japanese historical periods: Kofun, Asuka, Nara, Heian, Kamakura and Muromachi - none of them is named "middle ages". So at least from a Japanese standpoint, "middle ages" are always in Europe, just like Muromachi period will never be used for European history.
That's education system using different terms. We in India have middle ages and medieval period interchangeably to describe our history. Also, Japanese medieval time periods have way better names than the bland middle ages.
middle ages is a ridiculously broad term that covers almost 1000 years so it doesn't really mean much except that the dominant social structure is feudalism
better than living in the dark ages (now)
Basically few centuries prior to Sengoku Jidai, can be considered as equivalent of Medieval. Rest is semantic.
@@doltBmB And depending on how you define "feudalism," for many times and places not even that.
In Stockholm (the relatively diverse capital of Sweden) seeing a black person was an uncommon occurence still in the eighties when I grew up and people from southern Europe were considered somewhat exotic for being so dark. If people seriously believe that medieval times were more diverse than the eighties they clearly never heard of an airplane and should probably be considered mental children.
The problem is that many US citizens have a strong conviction that the rest of the world is like the place they grew up in.
They can’t survive up there without getting rickets from the lack of vitamin D. Modern supplements in food overcome this problem, but they’d get sick without it.
@@Diogenes_43 Uhm. No. There were definitely black people up here. Just not many of them.
@@anarchclown indeed, is the same in Northern South America, blondies where an uncommon sight, but they did exist
These articles are mindless clickbait, but they're recycling talking points that started as something that made sense, ie: there always was SOME travel, SOME contact, SOME migration, SOME import and export, SOME cultural influences from further away than one would expect. And there's people who deny that.
Ever notice that Europe was the only place that was super diverse to these people?
Now they have begun to attack Asia as well.
With the astonishing repetition of black samurai, of dark leaders in China... luckily the Chinese and the Japanese put up a lot of resistance. They invent black kingdoms and civilizations in America before the arrival of the Europeans...and I would like to know how these fabulous black civilizations got there, since according to Arab travelers they hardly had pirogues at the time.
@@massimilianomencacci2510Dey done built tha Great Wall of China maine.
I grew up in Southern Europe, in my hometown in the 70s there was only one mixed race family, the husband was an engineer who went to Africa for work and married an African lady.
@@esmeraldagreen1992 Italy?
ever heard of jews
“Medieval Europe Was Way More Diverse”
- Oh ok I see, so it was not 99.9% white, it was 99.8% white.
Half as white as we all thought, goodness gracious
The cultures were diverse, but they were basically all white.
Fr until the 16th century people who were distinctly of darker tone were unknown by many, some given high wages and unique roles for their contrasting appearance, others enslaved soon after as more knowledge about them showed up
As a knight whom slayeth two dragons and thrice rescued a Japanese, Indian and Aztec princess from captivity across Europe, I dare say this article has blemished my honor!
Lol. This made me laugh for real. Lol.
Fucking legend dude.
Who hath slain*
Eropeans aren’t native to Erope. Oldest indigenous group in Northern Erope were the Eurasian Sami tribe. Not even in the Russian steppe - oldest indigenous group there is a Iranian tribe.
@@Egr-et6arwith that logic you could argue that noone is native
Mediaval Europe was culturally super diverse. For example in medieval Italy alone you had Sicilians, Venetians, Lombards, Neapolitans... it was truly a cultural melting pot.
Many of them still exist, though you'd probably need to go to the countryside, where less people move to, to find them.
though it is fair, through all the different conquests, many new languages were spread about vast swathes of land, instead of staying in a tiny region, as with many other regions of the world. Meaning it was likely less diverse than let's say Africa, which has thousands upon thousands of etnicities, whilst Europe could only muster a couple hundreds. After all, of the major regions, Europe has the least endangered languages, yet it's endangered languages have on average way more speakers compared to other reginons.
Because the languages are less given through to the next generation. Despite Breton having a lot more speakers than some vague language spoken in 3 villages in Guinea somewhere, it might be more endangered, because the youth doesn't learn it anymore(Because they learn French at school, and there's a social stigma against regional languages), and the elderly, who do speak it, are dying off. Compared to the few village, where everyone will still learn the language, meaning the language has a better shot at lasting into the future.
I think multiple factors cause it, under which higher levels of education as well as increased migration. Both of which(ironically in the case of the latter), will leave Europe(And the world, we get the same everywhere, instead of differences) a lot less diverse than it has been for centuries. I'd also say the same about food variety, I like European food, but so many people just don't eat it anymore, instead going for rice and other stuff.
Sorry, I went on a rant, we'll see how the future goes, for now, I just hope I'll be able to preserve the customs of the past.
@@daandevos122 Europe also had dialects only spoken in a couple villages, just that they went all went extinct already without anyone taking note. For example the small and isolated Portuguese archipelago of the Azores has over 100 different dialects. They are so different from standard Portuguese that someone from the mainland won't understand shit. Even for people living there, go to a different island or even just to the other side of your island and you won't be able to communicate. Nowadays of course everyone learns standard Portuguese in school, but the elderly which back then didn't use to go to school still speak their dialect exclusively.
Culturally diverse
Racially homogenous
@@hayleylongster4698 The entire human population is racially homogenous, there are neither Neanderthals nor Denisovans around any more. The concept of dividing the human race into multiple races based on the amount of melanin in the skin is a fairly modern invention, but yes there were no settlements of Han or Bantu in medieval Italy.
Hair, eye and skin colour were different across different Italian cultures and people would be able to see whether someone was a local or not or which region they are from.
@@andraip your not gonna be able to get a transplant from someone whos another race....
The worst myth about that time is that people were stupid back then. They were not. They were about as smart as we are now. They simply had very different grounds to base their thoughts on. They were starting with very different assumptions, but after that, their logic and reasoning were as flawless (or as flawed) as ours.
They were "stupid" in the sense of not many people outside of the nobles and royals knew how to read and write. Not to mention the common knowledge we all share thanks to widespread education. For example you get an open wound, 99% of people know you need to clean the wound with something more than leeches and a prayer. But yeah they didn't have different brains to modern Europeans. They were just missing an education headed by science, good healthcare system, good nutrition, clean water, human rights, and democracy.
@@DaPeasant Your modern average citizen are far dumber than what they were thousands of years ago
@@DaPeasant human rights are a farce, such thinking leads to nothing but trouble. After all: the only right man has is the free will, everything else is defended by tongue and sword.
Most correct. I would also like to add that people back then (and much later, too) had large experience and inherited knowledge of things we moderns often do not consider.
By this I mean e.g. various signs in nature that told proper times to sow or harvest, telling from the shape & place of growth of a tree whether its timber is good for tools or building material (and for which part of house), which herbs & how prepared are help for rheumatism and so on. Since the vocations weren't as specialized as they are today and the knowledge wasn't readily available in printed/electrical & mostly free form, as we do, most of these had to be possessed in memory - at least of someone in the village!
On top of all that, a number of oral legends, family histories, saints' lives, riddles and popular songs would be memorized; we are cultural animals, after all.
My hunch is, actually, that their memory capacity (by necessity) far exceeded ours.
I love that the standard for education was whether one could read and write in Latin. Like, with their standards, most of us are illiterate, too.
Finally I understand why historical figures, the latest being Anne Boleyn, are being portrayed as non white and our European medieval culture, of soaring cathedrals, massive Spanish galleons, the knights in plate armour, plus our exquisite music and impressive castles are rarely credited to white European ingenuity and toil.
It has to be jealousy but we've nothing to apologise for, our ancestors worked hard to leave a historical legacy that may be ridiculed but can never be erased.
I dont want to sadden you but heavy cavalry, pretty much similar to the European knights was first described by Alexander the Great, as a persian fighting force, then it was applied by the Partians against Roman forces, byzantines adapted it to the Cataphractoi troops and THEN you got the western european medieval knights. It wouldnt even be possible before Carolingian times, because western Europe didnt really know or use stirrups on their horses, and without that simple thing a knight is not battleworthy. If it would try to use its sword or joust in a cavalry charge, and not fixed properly to the horse, he would just fly off the horse at the impact with the enemy.
@gaborrajnai6213 Umm, Sarmatians are credited with developing shock cavalry and they, as a group, got completely melted into and assimilated by Slavic and Germanic tribes. So by that logic, we wuz cataphracts.
It was important for the new nation-states to scrounge up as much historical legitimacy as they could, as far back as possible. Even if the past they pulled up was a weird world where the modern centralized nation-state was not the norm.
Well yes. The sin of Envy is rampant in the West
What's more is that they'll call YOU racist when you point out that a historical figure was actually white...
Early firearms were not adopted as they were more effective than cross bows & longbows but due to the dufus factor. You could take someone off a farm & train them to use a matchlock very quickly; it took a lifetime to train an archer. Lining up troops with an arquebus was cheap and fast and armour was also expensive.
Well that and the pike and shot method proved deadly to everyone. Pikes handled what would later be done by the bayonet, while the shot handled the job of the archer. You can do that in a single formation. Combined with what you said, you can devastate most middle to late medieval armies. Throw a cavalry charge in to handle the routers, and you have an unquestionable victory.
Most likely why armour fell by the wayside too. Why spend so much money on armour when you can save that and use it for an extra few hundred (or thousand) peasants with just guns? Took you near 15 years to train a knight, probably 5 for a man-at-arms, took a week to show some barely literate farmer how the bang stick worked, the value of that musketeer was far less so why protect them as much?
@@TheTeremaster Manpower is not infinite either, and if your peasantry gets killed in a war, famine follows.
They actually crossbows when it came to penetrating armor plus they also were an effective terror weapon early on. The explosive sounds would scare men and frighten horses.
"The dufus factor" 😂
The whole "middle ages were diverse" thing feels like Holldywood creating the baseline to call people wrong (and white supremacist) when people think that their movies with mandatory race quotas lack immersion xD
It's all about social engineering. Total political agenda. Until people realize this, the clown show will simply continue. Talking to young people today is becoming very hard to do. Ignorance and dumbing down is very widespread.
Its about erasing our history
It's not Hollywood, it's neo-marxists creating the baseline.
This is a neo-marxist ideology but you're correct, their end goal is to call people white supremacist.
That’s exactly what they are doing
This 100% makes sense!
Europe outside of cities is still very white today. 500 years ago you certainly would never see a black/Indian/Chinese/Arabian person unless you were a merchant. I also hate how they say "diverse" but really mean "different skin color". Europe was the most diverse place on Earth, yet everyone was white.
"Diverse" has become an euphemism for non-white.
i live in germany and was once buying fish from a local farmer in my village and me and a buddy were briefly talking with the farmer (who at that time was well above 80) about his childhood/teens and he said when the brits and american soldiers marched trough our village it was the very first time in his life he has seen a black person.
before that only in some books about different nations around the world but not once with his own eyes.
even southern europeans were seen as exotic while they basically lived right around the corner.
Europe has the most natural diversity in the world and it's not even close, there's 20+ ethnicities in Europe.
You won't find anything in common between a Sardinian and a Scandinavian, but these ignorant people only know like 3 ethnicities and want those specifically, african americans, mexicans, Koreans and white American, there's nothing else to these people because they don't actually have a clue what they're talking about
@@mcdick1621 In my experience southern and eastern europeans still get treated like theyre aliens even though now they walk on eggshells when it comes to Ukranians.
That's true, here in eastern Europe, you still tend to notice a black man because there aren't many around even in larger cities. If one visited a remote village he'd probably be asked for a selfie. Before the migrant crisis started you wouldn't see many middle eastern people either. The Chinese established a notable presence only after they started opening their stores by late 90s, but other far-eastern people are on the level of statistical error.
The suggestion that medieval Europe was peaceful Is ridiculous.
Lord shiddenfarter has taken my rightful claim!
I must raise my peasant levy! (and then proceed to not even need them as the two agree to duel for the title. One of the lords gets Mordhau’d into a vegetable.)
In the middle ages, Algerian and Barbary pirates from Africa were raiding European coast to get white European slaves. There is a good reason why Europeans mounted a offensive and fought back, starting with the reconquesta
Who taught you history? These are two things that have absolutely nothing to do with each other by the time the barbary pirates started raiding the reconquesta was already completed and all the crusades had already happened
@@guycrew3973 north African pirates are recorded to be raiding into Europe from at least 700ad. The term term Barbary pirates may now refer to a specific group, but the act of piracy from the Barbary coast and Algeria predates the term.
@@jeanninerossouw5921 i know that but few talk about the Barbary pirates so I thought you knew when they started
Reconquista was not motivated by barbary slavetrade i think. Also this does not match with the timeframe, the reqonquista was finsihed in the same year in which Queen Isabella tasked Columbus with sailing West. in the year 1492. The Barbary slavetrade from the port/pirate cities of north Africa, most notably Algir, and Tunis, was only finaly stopped after the invention of the USA in 1815. Althou Sweden had fought the Barabaries since 1810 or smthing.
Edit: so even if the barbary slavetrade predated the 18s considerately, it seems implausible to see it as motivational for the reconquista, otherwise there is no explenation for the 300 year gap inbetween those two things. IF the reconquista was about slavery, why would they have stopped without acchieving their goals at all?
Slave trade unfortunately just was a very normal thing in the entire world for the biggest part of history.
Italians took slaves from the Balkans and sold them to Arabs, Vikings enslaved Italians and other coastal villages to sell, Africans enslaved people from other “clans” (I forgot the word, I don’t speak English natively) and sold them to Arabs and all sorts of people
So this is honestly nothing new or shocking for anyone
Doesn’t necessarily lead to the reconquista
"Medieval Europe Was Peaceful, Diverse and Wasn't White"
And penguins play symphony in the Arctic Ocean.
Penguins play music. And Canadian seals go clubbing......
@@peterpike Baby Seals walk into clubs all the time ffs!
Silly. Everyone knows penguins play symphonies in the desert. Sheesh.
You meant highlight the absurdity of their thinking with another nonsensical notion but in their world, penguins(or at least humans identifying as such) could play a symphony in the Arctic Ocean. See? They have you check-mated.
@@karenburrows9184 They do, but only on Tuesday.
We went from "medieval times were incredibly dark, anti science, and especially bigoted times we should all forget" to "medieval Europe was a melting pot of diversity and race", I wonder what big media corporation will decide to choose because its starting to be confusing 🤔🤔🤔
I want to know what none of those diverse races never got on a boat to go over to the Americas. After all, if groups came because they were persecuted for worshiping Jesus differently, then why wouldn't they have had the same issues for Muslims, who, at the very least, don't believe Jesus is a deity at all.
I like the fact that those are presented as being opposed when, in truth, the diversity merchants are themselves "...incredibly dark, anti science, and especially bigoted...".
@@_XR40_ oy vey did you say merchants?
@@mlggodzilla1567 Shhh
It is actually " medieval times were a wonderful time thanks to diversity, later, black people invented the locomotive and antibiotics".
I'm a Viking BlackChinese borned in the highlands of Japan, my mom is a Filipino from the Apache indo-american tribe and my dad is an European from the Ganges river that used to play with his Mongolian brothers from Egypt with Dacian Falxes to build rafts for my little Mayan sister of Hungarian origin to navigate Alps and Carpathian mountains in South Africa to carry her Kangoroos pets on top of each Montain.
"i suffer from white guilt, here's my story" well done brother. you fit right in to modern America
the thing that annoys me the most is they don't have to include diversity into medieval Europe. Other places have rich histories that I really enjoy learning about and watching movies. Japan, China, India, Africa, Native Americans, all have unique interesting histories. We do not need to lump them in with European stories, they have their own. Tell those stories
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Hey there Ireland remember remember Ch Chulian well now he is a Senegalese women and Diarmuid is trans.
The point is to undermine European identity.
@@Kaermorhan Lol.
It's not about telling stories, it's about erasing European history and undermining the identity of Europeans. Would have thought this was pretty obvious to anyone by now.
One thing that drives me mad is the idea that “white = non diverse” like all europeans share the same culture/experience etc.. even in one country in Europe (Spain) youve got like 10 different points of origin, a guy from Galicia and a guy from Gibraltar have totally different genetic lineages, food, traditions etc, heck even languages.. seems to me the “whitewashing” is happening from more than one source :/
Yeah that’s true and technically globally Europeans are even a minority. So they’re refusing to acknowledge a lot of very small cultures that absolutely don’t identify with each other
It's true that medieval Europe was quite homogeneous, but that was more in terms of religion than it was race or ethnicity. Jews and Muslims did exist in some places at some times, but they were inevitably either banished or forced to convert. And, west of the eastern Balkans, all the Christians in Christendom were without exception - well, except for the unfortunate heretics, of course - Roman Catholic. To put it bluntly, religious freedom just didn't exist. Even Joan of Arc and Teresa of Avila, both good Catholics, were harassed for having unconventional religious visions.
It's an American thing. They view one skin colour as a monolith. You're either "white" "brown" or "black"
@@EdgyDabs47 Yea, americans only see white, brown, black, asian or hispanic/latin.
And all slavs are evil to americans.
Not only do I have to deal with this blackwashing bullshit like Netflix did with Cleopatra and the history rewriting of Woman King. But I also have to deal with my people(i guess) always being terrorists or evildoers.
Because my country(Croatia) is sandwiched between the more popular countries like Italy and Greece and even Hungary. We dont get anything other then being slav which means bad.
It’s true. Please feel free to call us “Amerimutts” or “burgers” or “A Nation of Shabbos Goys” in response
Love how the articles are like "Your high school history teacher lied to you!" and then immediately demonstrate they never paid attention to their high school history teacher 😂
13:30 A coincidence about The Witcher: it's obviously heavily based on the novels by Sapkowski but many don't seem to realize that Sapkowski who based his novels on the already existing folklore, legends & tales around Poland, Pomerania & adjacent regions are overlapping with the regions that the Brothers Grimm were traveling around to record their Fairy Tales from in the 19th century. Because of this I'm not astounded that there are regularly overlapping themes, details & background info between the Witcher novels, games & Grimms' Fairy Tales (even if they are clearly written in a highly idealized fashion & for a younger audience) & to a certain degree this even holds true for those Grimms' Fairy Tales adaptations that Disney made.
You are onto something!
I recently listened to Powerwolf, a German power metal band, and they sometimes include the names of creatures that have also appeared in The Witcher. An example is the song Armata Strigoi.
I live in rural Suffolk, UK. Up to 20 years ago it was almost impossible to find someone who wasn't white British here. Thirty five years ago when I was at secondary school, there was one Indian girl and one mixed race boy. I didnt see, meet a black person until I was 19 years old. This was 30 years ago, there's no chance they would have been here 800 years ago.
I was a student in Norwich in the late 1970s and went out with a black girl who’d been adopted as a baby by a lovely Norfolk couple. She was, in my 3 years there, the only non white person I encountered.
I went to school in Suffolk and had a similar experience, at my entire school, out of hundreds of children, there were 2 Asian boys, 1 black boy, 1 black girl and 2 mixed race girls. Where I currently live in Suffolk, there are only 2 black people locally and a handful of East Asian, South Asian and Turkish people who run the takeaways and restaurants. I'm 50 years old and have always lived in East Anglia. I was called all sorts of names including being tarred as a racist by a Korean person online because I wouldn't agree that Anne Boleyn was black!
My experience growing up in Washington in the North East in the 80's was exactly the same, a couple of Indians at school and zero black kids, the DNA of people there is completely white European
yes , they are lying and trying to rewrite history. they want our kids to think it's always been this way, so they don't get a sense of the fact that these lands belonged to their people. they know what they are doing, it's called propaganda .
I saw a black person at mcdonalds a few months ago... first time I had seen one in my life. I am 37.
"Racial slavery didn't exist yet" Ottoman Turks have left the chat. Barbary Pirates have left the chat.
Africa was enslaved by Africans.
@@hah-vj7hc Or Zanj, like the Zanj rebellion.
Pretty much most of countries have left the chat
@@hah-vj7hc it means south. For black people in Turkosh there is the arabic rooted word "Zenci" which is Zanj + -i (-i means "from"). So it technically means southener.
What is "racial slavery"? it was just slavery, the fact that many came from Africa was a circumstance of their pre-existing culture and ways, same reason the Islamic slave trade was overwhelmingly african as well, Subsaharan Africa had a long history of slavery before any European reached it, all the way back to Mansa Musa at least lol the slaves were freely sold often times to the Europeans
I believe Tolkien was writing folk legends for England in particular. I hope I’m not perpetuating another myth in the comment section, but I’ve heard several times that Tolkien lamented the fact that England lacked the rich folk tale history that the rest of Europe had so that was his inspiration behind Lord of the Rings. So Middle Earth is basically England or perhaps all of the British Isles.
As I understand it from the prologues, Middle Earth is basically a mythologised Ancient Europe with some resonances in geography, though by no means identical.
The Shire (Tolkien's primary POV) is closest to Britain.
Gondor apparently takes a lot of inspiration from the Byzantine Empire.
The deserts of the Harad (south of Gondor) are akin to the Sahara/Middle East, and there are references to their being distant jungles south of them.
A new mythology like Norse or Greek/Roman, (but better, and incorporating the good bits) for the rest of Europe.
Slough being Mordor makes a lot of sense.
Africa wasn’t known or discovered in England until 1500 ad. To say that black people were walking around England in the Middle Ages 450-1450 is fucking crazy.
Do a little research on the Iberian peninsula.
@@danielobrien9502one small area and in a minority brought over by the moors 😂
@@danielobrien9502That's like saying that Africa is a European land because of the Europeans who ruled it for a time.
North africans werent black sgit for brains@danielobrien9502
With all due respect but your statement is incorrect to the opposit end. Maybe the average Joe didnt knew much about africa. But Educated people in England knew Africa existed for way way longer! Actually the knowledge of at least north africa was never lost since roman times. In 1500 people in Britain already knew about the Americas, they certainly knew about africa. Why shouldnt they? its right there south of France.
Never underestimate the American eagerness to turn the demographics of every historical period into modern day California.
the Jewish eagerness
California isn't even that diverse, really. Aside from Los Angeles and San Francisco, pretty much every city and town in the 2020s is more or less evenly split between "Anglos" (German, English, and Irish, mostly) and Hispanic mestizos (almost exclusively Mexican). In certain areas there will be some token Filipinos or Middle Easterners, plus a Black community here and there - but there's no guarantee you'll see them.
Oh believe me, it isn't "American" eagerness. It's more just the club of people who wear small hats.
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@@SeasideDetective2 I live in California and I’ve noticed that as well! I’m in Central San Joaquin valley California and the only time I see Asians are in the San Francisco Bay Area or in lie Angeles Asians are virtually extinct everywhere else in California
Leftist commie eagerness, more like. Especially when you learn where the term “racist” came from.
I thought the same thing when you read about how the Middle Ages wasn't just in Europe. I was like, well *yeah,* the Middle Ages is literally a term used to refer to a period in *European* history, so... Yes, yes the Middle Ages *were* just in Europe, lol
Europe at that time, was the world. Just like Japan was the world during the same period, or Africa, or South American empires... Or, you now, how the US believe they are the world nowadays.
That's like saying the Middle Kingdom was not just Chinese.
@@SuddenReal Well... if you ignore North Africa, Middle East and Central Asia. Which for reminder real historians don't ignore.
@@baigandinel7956 Middle Kingdom is basically just Chinese Classic Era.
@@TheRezro And yet, all the things that happened in the Middle Ages in Europe had little effect to what transpired in Central Asia at the same time period, nor did either regions care since they weren't part of their world. You know, like you said in your other comment how "Middle Kingdom is basically just Chinese Classic Era". That was all that was relevant to them during that era because they were the world at that time.
But since you're talking about real historians, you're acting like different time periods in history don't have specialists. I"m not saying those specialist don't know anything about other countries during their era of expertise, just that they have an in-depth knowledge of the things relevant to their expertise, all the rest is just basic knowledge (for instance, someone who knows all about the vikings will not know the Chinese dynasties in depth, because why would they? The vikings only made it to the middle east). And let's be honest, the people who are being called out in this video aren't real historians.
Depends on how you define diversity. I myself find groups of peoples like the Magyar, Lombards, the Gauls, etc etc to be quite diverse. Even if they might not have looked different.
I had done research and its kind of crazy to learn that the majority of European DNA comes from white steppe people
Leftists have twisted “diversity” to ignore ethnicity and just focus on appearance, which if you think about it is inherently racist
In todays age, man's looks are judged as much as always, only with different results. To the people who make those articles, if they even consciously think, it doesn't matter who you are as long as you look similar to another person with similar looks. They do not see and they tell normal, common folk that they are the all-seeing.
What a pile of efervescent fecal matter has internet discourse become.
Yeah, cultures become less distinct with Americas world wide dominance in social Media and culture.
Same music,same movies, same Videogames, same social Media companies, Same search engines, mostly the same products.
These articles are going solely by skin color and the modern sense of "white"... It's like they think all white people are the same and didn't exist until 1492, but YOU are the racist one! 😂
Used to be that if history made people uncomfortable, we'd try to learn from it.
Now if history makes people uncomfortable, we just rewrite it.
Yep. It's very dangerous Ministry of Truth style deception.
@@hah-vj7hc Who is they? Most of this crap comes from Europeans themselves. Nobody if sound mind thinks you had millions of black people in the past living in Europe.
lol? this has always happened
The victors are indeed rewriting the history for people of European descent.. I wonder who might those people be...
@@akatsukicloak oy vey, cool it with the antisemitic remarks
I wonder if these people would ever suggest that the Middle East, North Africa, the Incan Empire, Mali, Benin, China or any of the other awesome places they love to prop up were diverse as well.
Calm down....if a fool can file u up like this u end up becoming like them in the long run.
@K Dolo
Yes,they would. "Diverse" just means "not White". All of those places were 100% diverse.
100% diverse means 0% White. Notice how no one ever says the NBA has a lack of diversity. It's 90% black. As soon as something or some place becomes over 85% any color except for White,they will never say that it lacks diversity again.
Well they were
not the kind you have in mind thougg
@@wambokodavid7109 pretty much, people love funding the rage bait and never seem to understand that the goal was to get them angry, so they read the articles and make videos about them and give them free money and advertising
@@Rynewulf There's a concerted effort to rewrite Medieval Europe as reflecting modern demographics. There was a push to rename the Anglo Saxon society because "Anglo-Saxon" is white supremacist.
14:20 it’s because for them, the discussion about diversity and representation isn’t about telling stories that otherwise might go unheard. It’s about making everything safe and familiar for comfortably middle class coastal liberals. That’s why whenever they make a “diverse” story, it always just looks like it might take place in San Francisco whether or not makes sense in the context of the universe. Someone who actually cares about diversity in storytelling might have the main character travel to strange lands and create conflict in the story with their clashing cultural values, which could be resolved through finding common ground and mutual understanding. Instead, modern authors just have all their fantasy races show up everywhere in equal number, and they all share the exact same cultural values because the writers are from California.
they grew up in a globalized world. and they can not comprihend that the world has not aleays ben like this. its just sad
My grandmother (we are Irish) told me that its cool I am used to living in a diverse country because when she was younger her entire friend group was literally blown away by seeing a black man move into the neighbourhood.
She was 15 when she saw her first black person.... Ever
I'm Irish too and saw my first black person when I was around 12 years old. It just wasn't common at all in the 80's.
My first teacher when I came to the US was a nice Black lady and she spoke Spanish and English. Naturally I assumed she spoke Mandarin also to ease me into learning English, boy was I wrong.
My grandmother was 20. But is that REALLY a surprise? She was 20 when WW2 ended and US forces occupied the city she was transfered to, before returning home into a town, that was liberated by the 9th US army a few weeks earlier. And this 9th Army has to stop first in disbelief here, because they found a large town and a titanic factory (Still the biggest car factory in the world) right in front of them, where their maps only showed forests and farms. She grew up far away from the big cities, large markets and cultural life - and during the course of the war came to Salzburg. From her perspective, even a Frenchman was unknown and special, despite the fact, that 120 years earlier, Napoleons army travelled often through the place and her ancestors likely had to live with them. Imagine taking a nameless figure from one of your favorite books, and then write their story. That is what good historians actually have to do. The kings and queens are just the decor on top of the real history in a place.
As an immigrant myself who came to Europe in the 2000s...well, I was the only foreigner in my grade. In a 400-500;students school, I think that foreigners made around 10 or less.
It's amazing how they pretend to "normalize" what it's not normal, and erase people's experiences.
I am very ok with europe welcoming foreigners, my problem arises when white Americans who've never set a foot in Europe outside of a vacation to italy start trying to change our history and erase our culture
Holy shit where did you move to? There are quite a few places here in germany where the biological-german kids are the minority!
Where I am now went from an 80/20 to 20/80 in 10 years
I suspect it will be 5/95 by 2030
History repeats
Your experience reminds me of Yared Dibaba (actor and NDR moderator), the good man speaks excellent Plattdütsch ;).
@@e.mailissimo2146 same in sweden, malmö has fewer swedes than migrants. Not sure why swedish people people hate themselves enough to create that
I love the Europe = White = Racist meme. The writer who brought up the Japanese history of the same time period should check out what happened to anyone who went to or arrived at Japan either deliberately or accidentally. For the most part, with a caveat about the Portuguese who were allowed to trade on a tiny island in the port of Nagasaki and a short period where the Jesuit Order was allowed very restricted entrance, if you were shipwrecked anywhere else in Japan...you got killed. Xenophobia is a human trait...and it is not exclusive to Caucasians. But I'm sure someone will tick my name with the title "racist" for even pointing that out. History happened all over the globe. People of differing cultures, races or religions might arrive anywhere and get welcomed...or murdered, enslaved, beheaded or even eaten. That's just fact. Read the texts...not just the European but also Islamic, Chinese, Japanese, Hindu, Mongol or anywhere else. History happens everywhere, with all the good and the bad pretty much evenly distributed.
Portuguese were allowed to trade almost anywhere during oda nobunagas period, later they were replaced by the dutch. A ton of koreans served as samurai retainers. There were even 4 westerners who were awarded the samurai class, 1 english guy, 1 dutch guy, 1 portuguese guy and 1 african guy. So what exactly happened to people who went to japan in your head?
@@666Kaca Only 4? That's hardly diverse enough for a modern movie. Needs to be at least 25% of the cast.
@@666Kaca >200 years of isolation
>4 guys got samurai class
>totally counteracts your story about killed on sight, bro
Except that the Japanese wrote a lot of the stuff down since ages. You were literally not allowed into the country. Even the Dutch/Portuguese were only allowed on a special island, with very rare cases were they allowed into the country where they were not to interact with anyone as they got carried all the way.
@@666Kaca Metattron did a video about the black guy who "became" a samurai and tl:dr there is no evidence he was anything more than an exotic bodyguard.
@@koffiegast how many japanese were knighted in 16th century europe again?
6:16 the image of two knights swinging big guns at each others heads is absolutely fantastic thank you for including this
I'll weigh in on armor as a hobby-historian and modern-day soldier (10 years in the Army, almost 10 years as a high-risk contractor). Armor and weaponry go through a seemingly never-ended cycle. My understanding is that armor didn't fade so much because of gun powder, but more so due to economics. As firearms became more sophisticated, more sophisticated (and expensive) armor was needed to stop shots. At the same time, armies were becoming larger and more professionalized, so not only was armor more expensive, you'd need more of it. My feeling is that most nations just didn't to foot this cost (although some units, often elite cavalry, still received armor).
We see this in modern times. As a modern warfighter, I put my armor on before going out to the 'battlefield'. Many western nations with highly professionalized armies place a high emphasis on equipping their ground troops with quality body armor. On the other hand, more impoverished armies, or those that don't place a high value on the lives of their soldiers, issue low quality armor or none at all. Also, I would be almost certain that medieval armor was highly effective at stopping attacks and protecting the user. As someone who has spent almost 20 years in warfighting, I wouldn't wear that extra heavy, heat-trapping gear unless I know it works. Warfighters don't change that much over the centuries, so I am willing to bet that no medieval knight would have gone through the time-consuming ritual of donning armor and suffered its weight and heat unless he was pretty damn sure the stuff worked. Grunts aren't the brightest folks in the world, but we know damn sure what equipment will keep our vital organs inside our bodies with a minimal amount of perforation.
How costly armour was varies. A mail hauberk in early Scandinavia with a metal helmet was a bit of a status item.
Early modern period Europe has cheap, mass-made munition armour. Bits come off one by one like the back plates, the gorget etc.
Ironically, Northern Europe would not have attracted people from all around the globe because it was not a major economic center. It's kind of funny, these types of articles somehow want to say the past was great, but it was also bad, and they can't quite make up their minds on what to land on.
If you say Northern Europe wasn't a major economic center, I suppose that may to some degree depend on your definition of what qualifies for the term. My "counter argument" would be: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_during_the_Viking_Age
*cough*Hanzeatic league*cough* The total trade among towns of the Hanzeatic league equalled the trade in the mediterranean. OK, it wasn't as flashy as it didn't involve spices, silks and other luxury items, but the amount of wool, wheat, wood and animal pelts traded was enormous. Except this didn't involve muslims or Africans so.... your stranger would be Estonian or Danish in Bergen or Stockholm or Kampen instead of Turkish or North African.
@@LTNetjak Wrong, people had pleasant lives for hundreds of thousands of years before the industrial revolution. Here people go again applying their own modern experience to people of the past. Are you saying people were bored before then or that the industrial revolution just made everything "better"? Made things more convenient perhaps, but people were doing just fine long before then and had their way of doing things. Saying people had sh*t lives before the industrial revolution is like a black guy in Norway who becomes president saying he is sick of white imperialism in his country. It is a ridiculous statement to make.
My dude, there is a Black person's remains found at the Coppergate dig of York. Dating to the Viking Age (Early Medieval)
Breaking the Law of Non-Contradiction is a prerequisite towards becoming a communist.
I was born in Glasgow, Scotland and my parents dragged my ass to South Africa when I was 9 (1985). That was when I saw my first black person in real life. I had seen a few Pakistanis and some Chinese but that was it. Glasgow is the largest city in Scotland and one of the largest in the UK. The diverse thing has only really been a recent thing and anybody that thinks differently really needs to read some history
London was very much White until the 80's. Muh 'windrush' and some south Asian immigration prior to that was docile compared to what happened 1980 onwards.
@@TitB1199 same here in Ireland my parents are from the countryside and when they used to go to the city they always said they hoped to finally see a black person. And this was the 70s early 80s
I live just outside Glasgow. Born in 70’s, and I agree, there were very few non-white folk while growing up. In fact, if I remember correctly, there was only 1 Asian guy in my high school at the time. I think it was when I got into my 20’s that I crossed paths with a black person. Mainly the people of colour stuck to the big cities, so there was less chance of seeing them in my town. I think it was only once I hit my 30’s that more diversity was appearing.
Sorry, I hate saying it like that, every individual is different no matter their colour. I am just saying that when I was growing up, it was mostly white folk in my town. These days, you can see the diversity in the cities. It just isn’t as obvious in the towns and villages. However, this has only grown over the last 20 yrs I would say.
So, when I comes to historical movies, I don’t understand why people want to change facts about how it was, just to be diverse. Historical Japanese films, made in Japan, have all Asian people. They don’t include White or Black people unless it was actually part of history, not just to be diverse.
@@wolverine343534 The cities in Scotland are quickly changing. The towns are changing too, and even villages, just a whisker, so far. How can I put it, in the local newspapers of Scotland, the rapists are working in teams now. There are usually no descriptions of the desperately sought offenders, but if they catch any, they are "Scottish", but their names aren't
@@TitB1199 Same in the US until 1965 and then again in the 80s under Reagan. As much as boomers love him, he put the final nail in the immigration and border enforcement coffin. Funny how it's only countries with Western govts that need diversity.
What is a funny thing is, while medieval Europe was not much racial diverse, it was very cultural and religion diverse. It became overwhelmingly Christian only to the very end of Medieval period.
Reason? As one historian said, 'Why Baltic people were so much true to their religion? Because they were so proud and their faith was so true? No! It was because they were so good at fighting, and they raided and sold more christians into the slavery than christians did to them! It was only after numerous teutonic crusades on baltic and slavic lands, when balts finally were outmatched and decided to convert into christianity"
Personally, i think that it's correct to say that plate armour was made pointless due to guns, however, not the guns of the 14-15 Century. Rather, what led to plate armour becoming virtually useless was the point where a conscript with a rifle could nail a veteran knight/soldier in plate armour from 100 meters away.
As an aztec warrior from 1300 who was Count of Aquitaine in France and larried a Korean princess of the Holy African Roman Empire, I can confirm this continent wasn't that much diverse
I wondered when Count St Germain would turn up on these pages to put right some inaccuracies, nice to have you back sir.
Thank you for your eyewitness account
Much obliged to you and your Holy African Empire. I hope to visit one day when I’m on my to Motown by way of Valeria.
As a direct relative of Eleanor of Aquitaine, I concur! 😂
P.S. She wasn't called the Grandmother of Europe for nothing lol my Mum is really into genealogy and through extensive research and DNA testing her paternal side goes back to many French nobility.
Acquitaine was a major pushover - completely gynocentric and developed chivalric code which taught men to be subservient losers.
Look up Peter Wright's blog, Gynocentrism for the full explanation.
Feminism is repackaged chivalry.
Feminists refuse to acknowledge gynocentrism, and insist that all bad things stem from men.
This attitude was consciously created by aristocracy in medieval times, but these spirits have manifested long before and in other parts of the world.
If Rings of Power wanted “diversity”, they should have had some segments in Harad and Far Harad, which would be Africa to the main story’s Europe. They could explore the interactions with Númenorians, both good and bad, as well as Sauron spreading lies and malice among them.
You know, it actually sound cooler. They could have explored Harad and Rhun, which are almost never explored in Tolkien writings. It could have been a nice way to show the interactions of Numenor and the people they first befriended and then, after Sauron's influence on Numenor, enslaved.
I would have killed for an entire series set in Harad and see all the different tribes and peoples competing against each other. Show how Sauron's influence affects them all as some rally to his cause, but some resist desiring to be the masters of their own fate. Would have been excellent. it could have been way more game of thronesy than what we got.
I believe even Tolkien mentioned one source of conflict between the Easterlings and Númenor as the colonization of a portion of land they claimed.
The seeds of the stories were planted by Tolkien, they just ignored it to push their own nonsense
But then they would have actually had to go in-depth into Tolkien's work and that's hard. They don't like to do actual research. It would have been incredible to see what actual, hard-core Tolkien fans would have come up with given a budget and a good director.
Rings of Power is the biggest shit show in modern TV history.
there was alot of racism back there, dark elves were literally getting harrassed non stop by the nords
Great video and info!
This article's logic "the Edo period didn't only happen in Japan."
Its weird how they can't comprehend concurrent time phases. Like how both hard rock music and disco existed at the same time during the seventies; one would be hard pressed to conflate the two. they took the equivalent of Kiss doing one or two disco songs and assumed that their entire discography was that, or that every band from the era did it. ACDC, DIO, Black Sabbath and the other metal/hard rock guys were typical of the way things were done. Also an interesting look at the 1950's and 60's, the decades where rock and roll were born, most people( in America anyway) listened to country, folk, bluegrass and what was considered 'American standard' like Jazz or the crooners of the era. It would be inaccurate to say that EVERYONE listened to the new style.
"The Edo period happened in Lesotho and Nigeria, too."
@@cveki007Of course we had the Edo Period in Nigeria. Edo 'Period' Nsambwe was our 12th least corrupt president (unfortunately only our 32nd least voracious accumulator of young female staff but we no longer speak of this).
That actually seems like a fun prank to ask a historian “what do you think about the edo period in Europe?” And see what they respond with.
I didn’t see a black person in the flesh until I was 17 years old and there were maybe 2 kids in my entire school who weren’t white. These kinds of articles are always so funny to me.
I saw some from afar when I was younger. American soldiers stationed around here.
Same here, saw the first black person in my life at 16, a black US soldier stationed in Germany.
Before that nothing, nada, rien, niente.
My mom didn't see a black person irl until her mid 40s
In my country it's like 99% white people so most of us are kinda in shock when we see other races, it's to the point where racism here is common especially for the older generation, i myself make racist jokes, but so do the very few blacks here and immigrants.
Roughly the same here and I’m only 20 living in West Virginia, there were maybe 5 black kids in a high school of roughly 1000 students. It was basically the same for my mom when she was young in Revere Massachusetts, there was one black family and that was it.
We all remember Marty McFly wearing the wood stove door under his poncho in a gunfight.
Interesting that the photo used as an example of lack if diversity is the photo of the fellowship where elves, dwarves, hobbits, humans and even one Maya were present. That is diversity.
They can't see diversity beyond skin colour! (And biological sex)
It's extremely superficial
@@silmaril8989 American "progressives" are still rooted in Jim Crow cathegories.
The hilarity is even stronger when you consider that Gimli & Legolas are not just *an* example, but are rather the *ideal* examples of diversity in motion: two individuals from wildly different and conflicting walks of life, who are gradually willing to accept and appreciate their differences in order to accomplish a unifying goal and ultimately get along.
@@kecukraftwork1988 yup. Gimli and Legolas' friendship literally brings together 2 people who used to be thousands of years old rivals
By that logic Wakanda is not diverse...
Oh wait, to them diversity just means not white.
I think this proves Steven Hawking and the paralell/multiverse theorem correct as these people must be living in another universe.
Lol
they have woke radical leftist revisionism disease
I was ripped from a better one and brought here.
Could you help me find my way back?
I want to go back to my original universe, this one sucks ass, the people are all lunatics.
Haahahaha
These people are forgetting that modern Europe is far more diverse now than it ever was before - and it's STILL overwhelmingly "white"
People are ridiculous. I'm Irish and grew up in the 1980's.... I did not see a black person in real life until I moved to America. Before that, I only saw them on TV.
Yes, because my Japanese ancestors in the Heian period had SUCH a problem with constant incursions of Germanic knights with Zwiehanders and had constant trade wars with viking traders.
I’d watch that anime
Totally unfair; thats why the Japanese became insular no doubt. (accurate use of insular--living on islands.)
@@petegarnett7731 Well, there was an instance of rampaging drunken sailors creating chaos and slaying ronins left and right resulting in rapiers been banned... so yes, they had good damn reasons to become insular. Just measly 300-400 years off the mark, but what are a few centuries among friends?
Hey that's just the plot of For Honor
@@Imman1s That's the re-imagined version. My grandma told me.
The funny thing is, depending on the specific area, medieval europe could very much be a diverse place. Just not in the sense that those articles mean. What a lot of people seem to miss, and I'd blame that on the fact that many of these writers are american and it's still very common to define people by outdated racial categories in the US, is: "White" is not a culture. "White" also isn't an ethnicity.
I mean, imagine you're in 13th century Rome. With Rome being a major trade center and also being home to the vatican city and important sites of pilgrimage, you might see all kinds of people. People of italian, german, greek, slavic, french, hispanic and scandinavian, british or hungarian origin. Those people, even though they would all be considered "white" would speak different languages, have different habits, have arrived for different reasons, be interested in different wares, wear different styles of clothing and even look a bit different.
And sure, odds are, you'd also find a few people from a more remote background as traders, diplomats or slaves, some northern african sailors, some arabic scholars and traders, and maybe once in a blue moon even someone from further away places like sub-saharan Africa or India, but the notion that those few select foreigners should be the standard of medieval european diversity and that all the "whites" are basically just part of a homogenous group is just completely misguided.
Leftists only care about skin color and sexual orientation.
Exactly. Europe had a lot to do with Europe but with Nobody Else for a Long time.
But that obviously doesn't count, since they all look white! Jokes aside, you don't seriously believe that people who actively talk about muh evil whuiteness care about facts?
tl;dr diverse in cultures
This comment is highly underrated ^^
I recently discovered your channel, and I am fascinated by it. You answer questions I've been having in my head for 20+ years. Nice! :)
3:03 I love the red arrow over the extraneous word. The best writing is clear and concise. This means that its meaning is unequivocal, and using as few words as possible without affecting clarity. I'm writing a book about art, design and architecture, and when I go back and read what I wrote, I'm often surprised by how many words and sentences I can delete without losing meaning. Metatron, you're little comment there got you a "subscribe" from me.
If you go to the Metropolitan Museum of Art they have an extensive collection of armor. Several of the displays have chest plates that have a curious dent. These chest plates had been shot. This was done, to prove to the buyer, that the armor was indeed, bulletproof.
To be fair, you could easily just put a bit less black powder in your arquebus and weaken the shot for marketing purposes. Not to say that there weren't certain pieces of armor that could resist specific firearms in that period, but we shouldn't take stuff like that for granted, snake oil and shady business have been a thing forever.
The bullet proof armor chest plates from the end of the armor cycle worn by the conquistadors were much much much thicker and heavier than the armor worn before to defend against melee weapons. Once rifling was invented chest plates became too heavy to carry let along wear and were abandoned in favor of the ability to move quickly to avoid being hit.
@@todo9633 This armor was proofed for the kings own, you think people were faking tests for the kings armor? Do you see that ending well?
A lot of the time they just hit it with a chisel and told the buyer they’d shot it.
@@todo9633 Black powder is WEAK. And their bullets were just (at best) just small spheres, which aren't exactly all that good at penetration. At worst, they were supposed to be spheres, but were poorly shaped and lost even more power while flying through the air.
Armor is also made to deflect more than block. You absolutely cannot do anything at all with medieval-age firearm to a heavy-armor knight from long range, unless you are very lucky. But if you need a dozen shots (aka. a dozen people shooting) to have just one bullet penetrate the armor and deal SOME damage (usually not lethal, since a lot of force would be gone for penetration), then the armor is still extremely useful.
Plate armor stopped being that useful when firearms evolved into using piercing bullets (instead of spherical) with more potent powder (in place of black powder). And especially when they could be reloaded quickly, or at least, mass-made at a reasonable cost. That was centuries after firearms entered the medieval Europe. CENTURIES.
If you think that black powder isn't weak, then let me ask you this. Why can you LEGALLY have a black powder gun, bullets meant for it AND black powder to load it with and shoot from in European countries, but you CANNOT have firearms that use more modern bullets and/or gunpowder? Yeah. That's because black powder is not as powerful as the movies make it to be. It is still lethal to an unarmored person of course. But it is not as dangerous when you have any sort of solid protection.
As a black man that loves researching European/Western history; I notice that alot of people take the outlier examples and try to apply them across the board. What do I mean by this, well, let's take St. Maurice for example; St. Maurice was a Christian P.O,C. Roman legionairy that was martyr because he refused a direct order that conflicted with his beliefs as a Christian. Most people would take this one example of history and then try and conflate this story to say "Ah ha! St, Maurice is proof that Rome had multiple black Soldiers.."
No, that's not true.
Black people are a rarity in European Historian, especially in the Medieval period. Europe has a history of being predominately white, 99% White.. This whole idea that black people were apart of European history is crazy. Because they would've been mention.
Early western Historians did document anomalies and we have paintings of few black people in Europe not because they were the standard, but because it was rare.
And it's starting to drive me crazy because as soon as people find out that I'm black,they no longer believe I'm credible to teach history because i've been "brainwashed." the amount of times i've been told "im lying." or that "i'm brainwashed." because people see i'm black and automaically assume that i don't know european history because i'm trying to push a racial narrative is heartbreaking.
i love history; but thanks to fucking leftist, I cant even have a basic historical debate or converstation without my knowledge being called into question because history is being rewritten by the leftist and they think i'm pushing a political agenda.
sorry im ranting im just fucking frustrate that because a majority of leftist are trying to rewrite history im no longer taking seriously as history enthuaist as soon as people find out my skin color is black,
It's called thinking exceptions prove rules wrong. They don't.
Damn… that is quite sad. I would say they are quite racist towards you.
Don’t let them bother you too much, keep on trucking. Cheers.
I'm white, and I get pissed off with the left showing African Americans that the African part of their heritage is unimportant so they need to be inserted into Europe. Wrong. Africa has as much interesting history and mythology as any other continent
Whoever told you that only big bad lefties are the ones "rewriting history" lied to you or is trying to recruit you. Revisionism has always happened and while there's a fair share of nutjobs on the far left who try to do that, it's generally a more common feature of chauvinist nationalists who need to make their national history seem more mythical than historical in order to boost their own egos.
A shame since anti-white narratives in history are usually pushed by white women and liberal Jews anyway.
Cracked next week: "You're picturing Yuan Dynasty China wrong! You're picturing it as being overwhelmingly full of Chinese people, but that's wrong, because Marco Polo was there, and a handful of other foreigners, which made it very diverse, and a melting pot."
Oh heavens, no, they'd never dare say that: they only ever promote diversity for Europe.
Sorry, but "diversity" only goes one way.
Well tang dynasty that had that reputation
To be fair, there is actually evidence that ancient Asia had a lot more ethic groups with "Caucasian" phenotypes, although most were really more like the Ainu than like most Europeans. There was one group of Slavs that migrated to western China and adopted Tibetan style Buddhism.
There actually ARE a lot of different ethnic and language groups beyond Han Chinese. Although the Han dominate demographically, and the modern CCP is certainly playing up Han nationalism and ethnocentrism as a way to unify the country. Heck, Mandarin Chinese was a court language imposed by Mongol imperialists later in Chinese history.
Thank you for the great content this is only your second video I've watched but the arrow showing your viewers where you are reading from is one of the best things I've seen and not many or any other creators do that its better than highlighting alone and says here is where we are follow along. This is better than some people will just throw a paragraph up and you have to pause to find your place.
Norway in the middle ages were so diverse, with lots of Germans and Danes hanging around the trade city of Bergen. Super diverse as you can imagine 😂😂😂
The invention of firearms did not *immediately* end plate armor, but firearms ARE the reason full plate went away.
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@@vitoravila9908 Have you seen early 2000s US body armor? Not far off tbh, which they quickly revised as it became to heavy and impeding.
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@@INSANESUICIDE It really wasn't even close. The fact that both contained steel in their designs doesn't mean they're anything alike.
If anything, I'd say that claiming that old timey Europe was as diverse as the modern US is a special kind of offensive to the descendants of slaves. It's the historiographical equivalence of plugging your ears and going "lalalala didn't exist lalalala"
Hell, even modern US isn’t as diverse as people think. I remember that poll people did where the people polled vastly overestimated the percentage of the population certain minority groups were. For example, I’m Asian. We make up 6% of the total US population. The poll estimated we were 29%, so a nearly 500% overestimation. lmao
@@gameragodzilla There's a whole conspiracy about a group of people because of that fact. Low pop %, with high representation
@@bobSeigar I mean not exactly a conspiracy, just look when foreigners are questioned about demographics in the US (mostly from television ads and movies).
@@bobSeigar Jews have a high representation in American movies because they used to be pioneers in the American film industry, when WASP high society largely scorned it. Although this representation is generally limited to the heritage of actors and directors rather than elements of Jewish culture and history in movies (except for Christmas/Hannukah commedies and Holocaust movies).
Diversity, relative peace....the contemporary society is considered "modern" because of these concepts. What these "historical articles" are doing is basically denying all the social progresses we've made in the last five centuries.
What I found shocking was that the horses were actually quite small ponies. And of course, when one looks at tapestry and such, one could have known, but I guess mostly because of depictions in movies, I was always thinking the horses were bigger.
I learned this fact (any many others) through watchting Time Team.
For some reason it’s always the Spanish Stallion that’s use.
Yes Andalusians are large and were bred for war,in fact they were trained to take part in the fight by kicking and biting their opponents.
German heavy cavalry was using Frisian horses
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The only diverse thing about medieval Europe was how many ways you could die before you reach 40
This is I hope seriously just a joke right?!
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But people of Europe were diverse. We have different haplogroups like R1A (predominantly in northern Slavs), R1b (Celts) etc.. but all are classified as white race.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
― George Orwell, 1984
They even convince people that the metric system is better than US Customary or Imperial units. Give them an inch and they take a mile.
ah, a classic
if only Orwell knew he was writting the handbook for the leftists of today, I wonder if he would have not published it
...and now that we have rise of deepfake and AI technology, refusing to believe what you see and hear may turn out to be an useful advice.
Late comment, but as a storyteller have encountered a major issue I wish with all my heart could be discussed without risking life and livelihood.
People keep arguing that in fantasy dragons and magic exist so why can’t non-white characters be significant, fully integrated populations in medieval western settings?
The difference is that magic and dragons are setting/environment based while population is character-based. In characterization on an individual level you have backstory, environment, culture, motive, resource availability, relationships with others that influence choices, you name it. The same applies when you look at cultures and demographics-it’s just characterization on a macro level. People need to come from somewhere and motives/means to enact choices. And in storytelling, while the rules for setting can shift you want to be able to believe and relate to characters as credible people.
Anytime creators want to show non-white characters as significant populations in medieval Europe these days, the regional cultural history is completely erased. There is no addressing why the population left their homeland and chose medieval Europe as home instead. Slavery is not demonstrated as a societal factor either for involuntary travel. There is no consideration for the hazards of traveling at great distance with limited technology/resources or obstacles posed by different languages, cultures, and currencies. There is no acknowledgment of the existing regional empires of non-white cultures or why it would be desirable to leave for medieval Europe (possessing a very different climate, social norms, laws, languages, resources, problems, etc.) instead.
I love history and fantasy about the West. I would also love more history and fantasy about other cultures. Mali, Ghana, Songhai, the Aztecs, the Incas, the Mayans, imperial China and Feudal Japan and Joseon Korea, the ancient histories of Egypt and India, etc. Human potential and versatility of thought is incredible imo. I’d love to see more people reconnect with a sense of wonder and discovery seeing how many forms that can take. I don’t think Western history or fantasy should or needs to be torn down for non-Western cultures to shine. They need to be handled with honesty, respect, and genuine interest. I think it is very, very telling that storytellers consistently refuse to treat non-white stories as equally default, with all the flaws and complexity that involves, continuously ignoring the great kingdoms and empires beyond the West WHILE treating Western culture/achievements as the only way non-white groups could have interesting or worthwhile stories. I think there is a ton of cultural/historical erasure in doing that, and I think it’s deeply dehumanizing to just paste people from their own cultures and kingdoms somewhere else with no practical means or motive.
If a fantasy story wants to portray interaction between different regional demographics I’d argue means, motive, and obstacles all need to be addressed imo. Going Broadway and just embracing the performative nature of the story is another option, and rule of aesthetic or talent can be okay too sometimes if it isn’t moralized. The way storytelling is done in left wing propaganda specifically feels lazy and disinterested in the plots or characters/cultures themselves. It’s about looking virtuous with the least amount of effort, without actually being virtuous. Completely exploitative. And appropriating or demeaning Western history/culture is a cheap shortcut to try and appear better by removing an appealing and interesting comparison instead of elevating non-Western groups in public awareness. It basically tries to eliminate perceived competition without doing the work to showcase or appeal. And again, it’s unnecessary when incredible non-Western histories, cultures, and stories exist.
With the Cleopatra documentary there’s an effort to create an identitarian hierarchy in terms of which stories have worth (black) and which don’t (Egyptian/North African and Greek). It’s a racially supremacist depiction that comes from a place of not feeling interested or confident in actual, existing, kickass black history. Basically textbook inferiority complex but on a population scale.
early guns used lead ,and tin balls for ammo a substance that is significantly weaker than steel armor ... remember folks , Conquistador's were using steel chest plate armor well into the mid 1600's
In case you haven't noticed, History revision is in complete vogue now, for a variety of reasons.
Yup, problem with history, it tends to not fit well with nasty political dogmas.
Been going since the 70s.
@@dawnfire82 Historical revisionism is old as humanity. Every kingdom and empirer tried to paint itself as the greatest country ever and their historians exaggerated accounts of battles and distant lands. More rigurous standards were set in the last centuries and even then there still existed strong revisionism among societies. Think of Romanticism for example, and all the Viking stereotypes that Wagner's compostions inspired in the collective imaginary of 19th and 20th century.
Please stop calling it revisionism, revisions are done when new evidence of fact are found that increases our understanding of what actually happend. This crap is the straight up falsification of history.
Those reasons are neo-marxists ideologues attempting to undermine and erase everything that is considered "euro-centric"
If you want a modern example of how long different weapons can coexist:
Anti-air cannons have been considered obsolete for a long time until it turned out they are quite effective against drones.
They are still popping up on ships and tanks. Autocannons are very popular around the world right now that also can act as AA cannons. There is a video on UA-cam of Russia slapping some naval AA guns onto APC's just because they had some lying around so why not.
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I don't know where you got that idea. The Gephard that was supplied to Ukraine was in German service until 2010. WW2 era 40mm Bofors were phased out of AC130s in 2009. The Chinese have the PGZ95 25mm quad cannon that only came into service in 1995 and still is. The Russian ZU 23 is still in service in no less than 70 countries. The world is awash with anti aircraft guns that are direct descendants of guns like the 20mm Oerlikon from the 1920s. The ability to lob a great deal of moderate caliber relatively cheap explosive ammo around the place has never gone out of fashion.
a net gun can down a drone more effectively and less expensively
@@nunyabidness3429 Not necessarily. Depends on the kind of drone. Your run of the mill consumer drone being used by terrorists or irregulars, nets can probably handle that. Some of the more high flying and faster military drones, not much of a chance. Plus developing effective net guns costs more R&D money. Basic AAA guns are something we already have. Plus net guns are single shot and take a while to reload. An automatic AAA machine gun doesn't have to worry about missing with one shot nearly as much. Net guns are really only a smart choice if you care about capturing the drone for intel purposes. If you're just trying to destroy it, pulling some old 60s/70s AAA guns out of storage and using ammo stockpiles we already have is way cheaper and more effective.
When you say anti air cannon I can't help myself but imagine medieval cannon aimed very high
Fun fact about LOTR:
In the story there are the southern tribes/lands where they had people who rode olyphants, people who couldve been easily been portrayed in the Rings of Power and still staying true to Tolkien.
While what they did do, was turn people from a race entirely described as having skin so white it even seemed to glow at times (imagine twilight vampires if you have to).
Casting of the show was probably done in the cheapest way possible, later marketed as promoting diversity.
To Amazon:
Next time make a script that includes people from diverse origins so you dont have to forcefully butcher your original material.
"Medieval" was a European thing. It was a phase of history of a specific part of the world. A feudal stage after the Romans had fallen and before the modern age go going. It represents can intermediate stage of society and technology.
If there are people who believe that medieval period was "diverse" and "peaceful" or "great", I got a castle to sell them in England.
trying to get out of another border conflict are ya Whitebeard?
@@JackJackrabbithow dare you assume the color of his beard!?
Medieval times were diverse, but that doesn't mean that people were tolerant. Skin color become relevant only in modern times. Viking didn't really care if his slave is white or from Asia.
Disney may just take this title seriously.
May?
They are one of the major ones who made it up and are championing it!
And what's the problem with that? I don't think Disney movies are supposed to be realistic
they have been basically screaming it as true for the last while
They already take it seriously
Dont give them any ideas
Obviously, Middle Earth is not in the real world. However, Tolkien did intend it to be a mythological predecessor to Britain and Europe. The Lord of the Rings would have taken place thousands of years before the Medieval period and the Amazon show "Rings of Power" thousands of years before that. The main problem with the Amazon show's casting is that it pays no attention to family relationships, making it even more fantastical than other adaptations of Tolkien's work. Nobody seems to notice that Tar-Míriel has dark skin unlike her father.
Jokes on them. I already know Cleopatra was black, Hannibal was black, and Japanese people were black.
"He who controls the past commands the future" -George Orwell
They're in a fucking hurry to finish the game before the whole building collapses on them. You have to fight them always and in any case.
I am tired of this remark. Orwell was using it to illustrate the thinking of Ingsoc, not because it’s a fact. He wrote elsewhere about people who were denied their actual history and provided with a false imperialist history. They rejected it as it denigrated them but since they lacked their own history, he said they became rootless with a tendency to wander. False histories do not work. People can hear the self-serving crap. They create their own identity and jam to their own music 🎶. They make up their own style and become something quite separate. Orwell saw this repeatedly in Burma (Myanmar). No one can subjugate people with fake history. It has to appeal to them in some way.
Eg. White supremacists like their false history, everyone else laughs. People push Cleopatra VII was black, other people laugh knowing she was actually Greek.
False history never sells. Nor can one control the entire media.
@Cheryl de Boissiere Unfortunately people do fall for False History.......there is a big effort to falsify European history for sure! I understand they probably want to help bury the romanticized history that white nationalists wanna give us but these woke propagandists are throwing it the other direction way too much.
As for me, I only want to do one thing: Tell The Truth! I will not add or subtract from history.......it must be told as accurately as possible.
@@cheryldeboissiere1851 Semitic.
Why are you kvetching over white supremacy? He quoted fucking 1984, that's milquetoast neo-con boomer shit.
@@cheryldeboissiere1851 How naïve. The last decade I've been surrounded by people and media gas lighting me about history I've experienced, been told, and read all of my life.
I really want the next medieval film set in Europe to have a predominantly Inca or Native American cast, you know, to add realism.
They'd be black. Yes. I said it. Woke assholes are trying to push that they were all black.
lmao
LOL yes we need more diversity and the natives have been left out in portraying the real Europe.
Personally I won't be happy until Australian Aborigines are the protagonists.
@@avae5343 But once the empire split in two and the eastern capital moved to Constantinople (what is now Istanbul, Turkey) in the fourth century C.E., Rome's diversity decreased. Trade routes sent people and goods to the new capital, and epidemics and invasions reduced Rome's population to about 100,000 people. Invading barbarians brought in more European ancestry. Rome gradually lost its strong genetic link to the Eastern Mediterranean and Middle East. By medieval times, city residents again genetically resembled European populations.
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Seems to me that the type of people who write such articles would not last long in the middle ages
700 years after the invention of firearms, we're STILL using metal plate to protect the upper body. It didn't go away, it changed. (And right after I wrote this out, you mentioned the same exact point in the video lol)
Not only that, we also use ceramic today. I'm an armed guard and my company provided plate is ceramic composite
metal plate as armor against small arms in the last 100 years hasn't really ever been a particularly good idea. kevlar and ceramic, since the 60s, have always been better options.
helmets though... yes, metal helmets were crazy widespread forever.
We still use crossbows and those could also penetrate armor at the right conditions. It's not like a knight had nothing to worry about. Firearms were just another thing they could use. Heck if you want real social equaliser of knights and peasants in middle-ages the Hussite "cep" the thing used for beating the grain and cracking knights.
if you use metal plate for body armor you're still going to die when the bullet explodes and the hot metal shreds through your neck and arms
Technology in armour couldn't keep up with large caliber muskets that punched right though armour technology of the time. They still used armour and bows in the 1600's and early 1700's but shed armour in the mid 1700's. It was very recently when metallurgy and plastics technology allowed personal protection against some small arms. Metal helmets came back with mass artillery use due to head wounds from falling debris. Metal helmets in the 1800's were often more ceremonial than for protection but many armies were still using swords until the Second World War. Melee weapons are still common from knives to machetes to varieties of axes depending on the region of the world.
I think those "writers" played too much Civilization VI, that's why they think that Medieval Era happened for everyone and was recognized as such around the globe.
Although I did hear occasionally mentions of "medieval Japan", so there can be a deeper confusion.
As for "european diversity", I keep remembering "the portrait of a black woman", dated somewhere late 18th century, in a provincial Dutch museum. That woman was painted very black-skinned indeed, but had remarkably and undoubtedly white european features. Which proves that EVEN at the dawn of industrial revolution, EVEN in a maritime colonial nation, EVEN those who were aware of black people's existence have most likely never seen one themselves. And they try to tell us that Europe was a "melting pot" in medieval times, before the age of discovery and before sailing around Africa?
Bold of you to assume these morons have the mental capacity for even a game of Civilization
One town during Napoleonic war in the UK hung a monkey believing it to be a French person who was a spy, even people living within 100 miles had no idea what a french man looked like.
@@myview5840 to be fair that town was pretty close to the mark😄
@@myview5840 Somehow I doubt this but I want it to be true, need to look it up myself. Probably a myth or a joke that has since been taken seriously.
@@joedoe7041 😂😂😂😂
Ha! My world history was also the varsity football coach. He was also a retired Marine and though he doesn’t know, he had a really big impact on my life. I got in trouble in his class one day for something or another and instead of just putting me in detention, he made me play him in chess. I didn’t win but i made it to a stalemate and so he shortened my detention to one hour vice two. Thank you for bringing back the memory and keep up the great videos!
I love how it's always and only Europe that that get's this treatment. Literally no other part of the world is this done to. If Europe was such a meltingpot then it stands to reason it would also have gone the other way.
Not necessarily if you think about. Everyone comes to white countries (Europe & America), but no one really really goes to India, Africa, etc.
it’s pretty one sided of where people want to live.
@@lada8744 Maybe today, but we're talking caultures from 1000-3000 years ago. And where are all the black Ancient Chinese emperors? (we wuz ancient china and shit) Where the Asian Zulu's? Surely we need more representation for these old cultures like Korean Shaka Zulu. Throw some white zulu warrions in there, some native americans etc.
@@lada8744 I'll give you Europe, but are we forgetting about the Natives and Hispanics that live and lived in America before the colonization of it's lands
Edit: I meant Mexicanos, indigenous Latin Americans, with origins from indica, Mayan, Aztec, tribes...etc
Not Hispanics my bad, Hispanics were said to have arrived after Europeans Settled in the Americas
@@lada8744 Also people have the tendency to immigrate to North America because people from foreign countries are advertised, "brain washed", and encouraged to do so because America, Canada are still pretty young countries that are constantly looking for workers, laborers, soldiers(1st generation that's born from immigrants), voters, etc...
That... and it's much easier to immigrate to certain places in Europe, UK and South/ North America then it is to move to other countries like India, China, Israel, Japan, S.Korea, Saudi Arabia, etc
Also infrastructure, economy has a lot to do with it also, America and most European countries are strong economically with little civil unrest, overpopulation and being war torn... well besides France, Ukraine and Russia that is...
@@Monkey-King Europeans came to settle and live with other Europeans, then non-Europeans wanted to come live with them after the Europeans crates civilization there.
It’s still one sided.
Correct. Kevlar is not plate armour.
But here's the thing: soldiers on modern battlefields don't use kevlar. Kevlar only reach NIJIII levels of protection. It's not enough for the kind of bullets a soldier is expected to face.
You need a protection level of NIJIV at the very least. And you get that from steel or ceramic SAPI plates.
I thought those are combined with kevlar.
Technically it’s Level IIIA that Kevlar goes up to. Level III can protect against rifle rounds. Level IV protects even up to armor piercing .30-06, and is the highest tier of official body armor. Of course it’s also heavier and more expensive.
To the other guy’s point: yes it is combined with Kevlar. Typical ceramic plates work by breaking up the bullet into smaller, slower pieces, and those pieces are then caught by the Kevlar underneath.
yea wearing steel will get you killed because the bullet shatters and doesn't get absorbed. It shatters all over your neck and arms and will kill you pretty quick. If I ever have to shoot at people I hope they have metal plates
@@schwarzerritter5724 They are, the only real difference is with plate or without. With = IV, without = III
Armor that contains plates is not necessarily plate armor. If we stretch definitions like that then literally any armor with flat pieces of metal in it would be plate armor.
Having just discovered your channel via UA-cam's recommendation algorithm today, I obviously was not familiar with your content, so when I saw this video's title I sighed and rolled my eyes and thought, "Here we go again," thinking this would be another one of the Cracked-type information dumps you reference, only to find out that you would be calling such content into question.
THANK YOU. It's so freakin' refreshing to find content creators who aren't afraid to be honest about what history actually entails: The good AND the bad. In this day and age, it seems like so many people want to gloss over the horrors and atrocities of the past because they're uncomfortable to talk about instead of actually learning the lessons they can teach us.
*5 Things On The Internet That Are Almost Guaranteed To Make Me Move On*
5) Numbered lists.
4) Numbered lists.
3) Numbered debunking lists.
2) Numbered lists of things I allegedly got wrong.
1) Especially inverse numbered lists.
If any examples of "diversity" I can think of in the Middle Ages is maybe after the Norman conquest of Sicily was the religious diversity among Christians, Jews and Muslims since the Normans were fairly religiously tolerant.
Probably, unfortunately for the muslims it lasted for less than 200 years, then the christians took all over... Ottoman empire is a good contender too.
The Normans weren't at all religiously tolerant until they realized trying to enforce Catholicism on the recently-Byzantine Greek and Muslim subjects would result in endless revolt. Took a couple generations, just like it did in Norman Acre.
@@Nick-hi9gx technically speaking, the norman nobility tried to exploit the muslim farmers who lived mostly in the countryside. The christian settlers wanted their lands, while the muslims wanted to reestablish their rule: that's why in the last act, king frederick II decided to expel all the muslims from Sicily.
@@esti-od1mz Yeah, the Normans were never nice overlords to anyone that wasn't Catholic. You saw the same with the Greek Christians around Bari and Tarento, exploiting the hell out of them to please their Catholic lords and subjects. But they DID allow Muslims in their realms until right near the end.
@@Nick-hi9gx It was a mixed bag: Orthodox Greeks, Jews and Muslims were marginalised and treated with a degree of hostility which could not be described through modern eyes as tolerant. But they were also allowed to live their own lives, and were treated far better by the Normans than in other kingdoms of medieval Europe. I should've worded it better with a bit more nuance from my original statement about religious toleration.
i’m not exactly a medieval historian, but i wouldn’t be surprised if almost all europeans north of the alps would have thought it extremely alien to have seen someone much darker than a typical spaniard or sicilian in their entire lifetime during the medieval period
Well, vikings and arabs were a thing. But again, that was like year 800-something.
@@crankynu What thing?
@@crankynu
They were not a thing. You must have watched that movie with Antonio Banderas
In the middle ages anybody from the middle east was hated and with good reason. Europe withstood nearly 1600 years of unrelenting attacks from the Arabs, the Turks and North African warlords, slave riders, and pirates. In the late middle ages and early Renaissance, sailors who went to sea would take insurance policies against being captured by slavers. In Europe until the 16th century, there was only one religion Catholic, and if you weren't Catholic then you were a heretic and would usually end up dead. Until the 1950s people would spend their entire life in one community and marry within
@@crankynu vikings didnt abduct millions of berbers to sell them into slavery in london, visby or copenhagen lel
When people criticize diverse castings for the witcher or lotr, saying "it's fantasy, it's not a real world so what's the problem?" they're right, there's no problem with diversity in medieval European fantasy settings. It's fantasy. You can have black, brown, Asian-looking people in your European setting because there's magic, travel might be easier, maybe there was an event at certain point in history that made the world look like that. But the thing is, if an author such as Tolkien clearly didn't intend his world to be like that, you either respect his vision in your adaptation or leave his books alone.
I heard somewhere that armour was "reduced" because of different tactics and ways of fighting. But I personally would like to add to that that inventions also added towards that change.
I used to be a ghost writer and I can tell you with certainty that the reason all of those articles are similar, to the point of having the SAME EXACT point (albeit reworded) for each numbered entry in their lists, is because most writers will just search up the topic they've been hired to write on and then plagiarize - excuse me, REWORD - some other person's article.
That's why you'll see tens if not hundreds of articles regurgitating the same, incorrect point and parading it as truth. Most writers don't care about the content of their work, they care about meeting their word count and getting paid.
Great video as always, Metatron!
If you don't mind, there is a theory I want to test. Ask me to write something and I'll do it and send it to you.
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@@danielawesome36 You don't have a throw away e-mail I can send it to?
They want to rewrite history at all costs.
Its called a Revision
to re-vision
to see again with new sight
In the land of the blind,
The One Eyed man is
KING.
but what if the 2nd eye is in
the back of his head ??
He can watch
his own
6 !! :P :)
(Jeez, i crack myself up....)
Yes, they're neo-marxists.
Yup. They rather you not look at old films of European cities from 100 years ago, or even 50 years ago. (The London streets for ex. look substantially different...)
Who is they?
@@wilkinscoffee4228 Small hats?
Just found this channel and wicked yes! Love all the knowledge flowing from this platform. Thank you for putting out the information. The rest is up to the human. 😊
Regarding modern armor, what actually makes a vest bullet-proof is a nice and thick plate of steel. So yeah, in a way we're still using "plate armor"
I demolished alot of ROP people trying to revise what Tolkien actually wrote.I freaked one out by saying where are the Asian,and Hispanic Elves and Hobbits ,because I only saw Black and White ones.When I mentioned South Asians and Middle Easterners would actually match Tolkien's descriptions of some Easterlings and Haradrim the person simply started calling me names.
What else did you expect? It was never about what Tolkien wrote.
In the end I don't care much what skin colour they have if the actors are good, but it does make a lot more sense if in one group/city/region 99 % have the same skin colour in those movies like ROP, House of the Dragon, etc. So there would be plenty of room for all nationalities and skin tones, but if there are a story and a reason behin it, it makes more sense. Like: This person/family came sailing from far away some generations ago, or this tribe migrated to the west through deserts and settled...
@@LJJ22 So why doesnt hollywood put white characters in wakanda, then?
@@thefallenfaith1986 The irony is that there is a white Wakandan in the comics, T'Challa's adoptive brother Hunter.
It's all they got.
Medieval times? Try the 20th century.
In Italy my father saw a black person in real life in 1944 when he was 12 years old. And that person was a US soldier during WW2.
I myself never had the chance to meet any blacks or non-Italians in general when I was a little child. It was only in the 80s that we started to see the first black guys who immigrated here from west Africa.
Yep the 80s was when their mass immigration experiment began in full force
true for italy but not for other world spanning europeans empire
I was 22 before I saw my first black man on a bus in Scotland. He was dressed in a yellow and blue check suit and I thought Huggy Bear must have got it right
Right? In Poland I saw a black person maybe once or twice till my 20's. And that was in one of the larger and more tourist destination cities in the country. Even now it's hard to find one in any mid-sized or smaller city. Other than an Armenian classmate, I've seen only purely white, natively European people.
At least some people understand, that but for a few cosmopolitan or imperial hubs, the idea of racial diversity was alien in Europe until the contemporary era foisted it upon the indigenious Europeans.